Cheers buddy. Kermit is a really clever trail. It's got some really cheekily placed roots so you really have to think. It's a really good addition to the hill 👌
We were just up there on an Edinburgh Mountain Bikers FB Group ride on Saturday and it was great - I'm on ebike but not everyone was, so props to those that climbed it! It's was super sloppy and wet but great fun - I think it's an excellent place to learn some Golfie style trails - but man there is also some crazy stuff in there! Will definitely be back in the drier weather - really cool seeing you both ride it as recently as we did.
Looked like the perfect day for eeb , great selection of trails and I guess you don’t mind losing height so quickly on those fast open sections when you’ve had assistance on the climbs 🔋👌. And those trails toward the end looked absolutely mint fun 😎
@MindfulTrailBiker So I'm pretty strict at alternating between the two. I find that it reminds me that climbing on a proper bike is really difficult, but it also hammers home how fun they are descending. My feeling would be that you would lose some of your fitness very quickly if you just went eeb, and then returning to the normal bike wouldn't be fun. I'm not saying you can't get as fit on an eeb. I think it would be possible, however the commitment required would be huge. The reality is that eebs are great at improving your zone 2 and base fitness, also descending endurance. However, you have to go looking for high heart rates in my opinion where they happen quite organically on the real bike. Does that make sense?
@@streetpigeonmtb makes perfect sense! The disciplined approach to riding both at all times sounds like the formula. I do most of my zone 2 training running and then rely on the usual mountain bike rides to provide the multi-zone hits with the needed zone 5 for peak fitness. Didn’t really think about the increase in descending endurance which off course makes complete sense but I hadn’t thought about it in that way. Climbing assist but your doubling your descend time and suffering that fatigue instead. Great stuff!
@MindfulTrailBiker yeah! I hadn't thought about it either but I'm noticing big improvements on the descents. Just not getting at all fatigued like I used to 👌
Great video man. I visited Cademuir for the first time on Friday, it was so wet, safe to say I was all over the place. Looking forward to going back when it's a little less wet & slippery lol.
Done Birkscairn Hill last summer and the ruts were hard enough then never mind snow, had a great time riding Gypsy Glen too ebiking it on steep sections makes a difference, will head back some point soon thanks for sharing Jamie! 😁
No ebike title… glad I didn’t get stuck in a field 😜😂 awesome vid! Enjoyed riding there the other week. Some decent features. That first send from Andy was huge off that drop!
🤣🤣🤣 Yup. I'm treading dangerously. I just hope no one repeats this ride on a normal bike and gets inadvertently stuck in a wet field... Andrew was flying. Some lad 👌
Nice this is the exact type of video why I'm looking to buy my 1st ebike, late 40's n the turn n burn of an analogue bike with racing injuries is no longer that appealing or pleasurable, but that looked like an awesome day out packing more in than u wud on a normo bike, thanks for sharing 🤙
My mates had a secret Scotty trip and instead of riding Cademuir they sessioned the blues at Glentress on eebs. Definitely got use out of those range extenders 🤘🏼
The new blue is fun for sure, but eebs feel a bit lethargic on them. If folks are up for it this type of riding deffo utilises the assistance of an eeb really well 👌
Ruts are nerve wracking as is. Ruts under snow is giving me PTSD just thinking about it! 😅 And then Andrew just flies out of view like the laws of nature don't apply for him. 😂 Cool ride!
After 30 odd years on normal peddaly bikes hellfire I love E-bikes , a lot like the trials bike stuff we could ride 20/25 years ago , just get out there 👍👍👍
It was 37km on full charge and using a mix of eco and trail. It's more about total ascent. I'm pretty sure the route we did had 1350m of climbing which is solid 👍👌
@@streetpigeonmtb UPDATE > Just had to go today and these trails a try - boy oh boy was I not dissapointed. What a cracking spot for a session on the eBike. 🤘🤘
Regarding "cheating" with ebikes; I always remember a reply I saw on a forum, where the poster of a cheating comment was asked if they only rode single speed or used gears?😂
Great video but you’re terminology on riding an e-bike is “ cheating”…..who are you “ cheating”….other riders, yourself? From the noise you can hear you got a workout up and down! We all love riding bikes and if you are having fun on two wheels….happy days
I agree. It's all about having fun. After hours of driving to get to these places, e-mtbs allow you to ride far more. An e-mtb at Golfie, is way better than a day on the uplift at Bike Park Wales.
Such a good day on the bikes with you Jamie! Even more so on the e-bikes imo👌
Agreed man. There are certain use cases that just bring the eebs to life. This was one of them. Great riding Andrew 👌
That was nothing like the Kermit at bpw fair play 😂😂 another great video
Ha ha. For sure! Cheers buddy 👍
looks like a cool ride!
Cheers Harry! I see you've been getting up the Valley a fair bit! Great to see you up this way 😁😁👌
My favourite riders showing us more great trails, I'm getting plenty of inspiration for my next trip up to Scotland 👊
Cheers Sam! Hope the next trip is awesome 👌
Nice video. Need to check out that Kermit trail next time I’m at Cademuir - looks good. You made Danger Mouse look easy which it isn’t!
Cheers buddy. Kermit is a really clever trail. It's got some really cheekily placed roots so you really have to think. It's a really good addition to the hill 👌
We were just up there on an Edinburgh Mountain Bikers FB Group ride on Saturday and it was great - I'm on ebike but not everyone was, so props to those that climbed it! It's was super sloppy and wet but great fun - I think it's an excellent place to learn some Golfie style trails - but man there is also some crazy stuff in there! Will definitely be back in the drier weather - really cool seeing you both ride it as recently as we did.
That's brilliant buddy. Yeah, both Gypsy Glen and Cademuir are top places IMO 👌
Looked like the perfect day for eeb , great selection of trails and I guess you don’t mind losing height so quickly on those fast open sections when you’ve had assistance on the climbs 🔋👌. And those trails toward the end looked absolutely mint fun 😎
Cheers man. Such a good mix of trails 👍
Ah man, great edit, that was 2 days riding in one for me. E-bike fomo setting in hard now! Great to see you and Andrew buzzing together! 👌
Never give up your real bike... However, if you can have an eeb as an additional play thing I'd thoroughly recommend it 👌
@@streetpigeonmtb have you transitioned between the web and regular bikes yet? How does it feel going back to back?
@MindfulTrailBiker So I'm pretty strict at alternating between the two. I find that it reminds me that climbing on a proper bike is really difficult, but it also hammers home how fun they are descending.
My feeling would be that you would lose some of your fitness very quickly if you just went eeb, and then returning to the normal bike wouldn't be fun.
I'm not saying you can't get as fit on an eeb. I think it would be possible, however the commitment required would be huge. The reality is that eebs are great at improving your zone 2 and base fitness, also descending endurance. However, you have to go looking for high heart rates in my opinion where they happen quite organically on the real bike.
Does that make sense?
@@streetpigeonmtb makes perfect sense! The disciplined approach to riding both at all times sounds like the formula. I do most of my zone 2 training running and then rely on the usual mountain bike rides to provide the multi-zone hits with the needed zone 5 for peak fitness.
Didn’t really think about the increase in descending endurance which off course makes complete sense but I hadn’t thought about it in that way. Climbing assist but your doubling your descend time and suffering that fatigue instead. Great stuff!
@MindfulTrailBiker yeah! I hadn't thought about it either but I'm noticing big improvements on the descents. Just not getting at all fatigued like I used to 👌
Enjoyed the variety - looks like you had three seasons in one day there!
Ha ha. We were both talking about that. Made the riding a bit of a guessing game - for me at least!
Amazing video again love the ebike videos more riding more fun and a good work out what more can you ask for keep up good work 👏 🙌 👍 👌
Thanks Simon 😁
Great video man. I visited Cademuir for the first time on Friday, it was so wet, safe to say I was all over the place. Looking forward to going back when it's a little less wet & slippery lol.
Nice buddy. Some of the trails in there get so slick! Definitely felt like an effort to stay on the bike 🙈
Done Birkscairn Hill last summer and the ruts were hard enough then never mind snow, had a great time riding Gypsy Glen too ebiking it on steep sections makes a difference, will head back some point soon thanks for sharing Jamie! 😁
My pleasure buddy. Gypsy Glen will always be one of my favourites 👌
Excellent video mate nice to see you using the ebike for what it’s for the big adventures kermit trail was wicked 👊🏻
Cheers buddy. Deffo a big adventure/uplift replacement kit. Enjoying it ☺️
No ebike title… glad I didn’t get stuck in a field 😜😂 awesome vid! Enjoyed riding there the other week. Some decent features. That first send from Andy was huge off that drop!
🤣🤣🤣 Yup. I'm treading dangerously. I just hope no one repeats this ride on a normal bike and gets inadvertently stuck in a wet field...
Andrew was flying. Some lad 👌
Great video Jamie and nice to see Andrew back out with you
Cheers mate. Was good to catch up with him 😁
Thats a fair day out lads! Power of an eeb 😉😂
For sure 👌💪
Great VLOG Jamie and Cademuir looks good 👊
Thanks Kevin 😁
Awesome video and riding. I love the Cademuir trails they are brilliant. Nice to see them
Yeah. Cademuir has some lovely trails. Just wish they were slightly longer!
Well Done Guys geat video
It was a fun day out for sure 😁👌
Awesome m8 looked an epic day 👍
Thanks man. Such good variation 👌
@@streetpigeonmtb need to ride there before I get to old 🤣
@uknorthie You have to!!!
Nice this is the exact type of video why I'm looking to buy my 1st ebike, late 40's n the turn n burn of an analogue bike with racing injuries is no longer that appealing or pleasurable, but that looked like an awesome day out packing more in than u wud on a normo bike, thanks for sharing 🤙
I think if you bring MTB fitness to an emtb you can get a hell of a lot done. I'd deffo recommend 😁
that looked steep on the video, so god only knows how steep it was in real life! Great video!
Ha ha. Yeah, Cademuir has some very steep sections 🙈
My mates had a secret Scotty trip and instead of riding Cademuir they sessioned the blues at Glentress on eebs.
Definitely got use out of those range extenders 🤘🏼
The new blue is fun for sure, but eebs feel a bit lethargic on them. If folks are up for it this type of riding deffo utilises the assistance of an eeb really well 👌
Cracking vid boys n class ridin too 👏👏👏👏👊
Cheers Diz 👌
@@streetpigeonmtb My pleasure mi lil Sausage lol 😆
@DizRidesMtb 🤣🤣🤣
@@streetpigeonmtb yw bruva.
Ruts are nerve wracking as is. Ruts under snow is giving me PTSD just thinking about it! 😅 And then Andrew just flies out of view like the laws of nature don't apply for him. 😂 Cool ride!
Ha ha. Yeah, he's a really good rider 👌
After 30 odd years on normal peddaly bikes hellfire I love E-bikes , a lot like the trials bike stuff we could ride 20/25 years ago , just get out there 👍👍👍
Yup. Enjoy riding whilst we can. It's amazing 👏
slick conditions
Wild! Fun, but I can't wait for dryer trails 👍
@@streetpigeonmtb only ever ridden cademuir in the super dry.
@MTBScotland you'll have to get back over this way and ride some of the newer stuff 👌
Great video and great location, is there a link to the route?
Yes of course 👌 strava.app.link/59jfDktouIb
Thanks for the link, will be trying it out later in the year. 👍
@richardhuntington1393 Awesome. Let me know how you get on 👌
Oof. Will be in the UK last weel of June btw... somewhere in the vicinity of Newcastle I believe... 🤔🤩
Let me know when you are here. If I'm around it would be cool to meet up 👌
@@streetpigeonmtb would be awesome!!! where abouts is your "base" again? 😊
@JayRidesTrails Peebles mate. Right beside all the world-class, Tweed Valley trails. 2 hours from Newcastle 👌
@@streetpigeonmtb uuuuhhhhhhh... I think it might be a date! 😁
@JayRidesTrails 😁😁😁
which way up did you go to get to gypsy glen as we normally go up past the golf course?
Glensax valley mate. Here's the Strava: strava.app.link/UyCudTNsyIb
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Cheers man. Loving some of the new stuff at Cademuir 👌
37 km. Was that on a full charge? How you finding the ebike?
It was 37km on full charge and using a mix of eco and trail.
It's more about total ascent. I'm pretty sure the route we did had 1350m of climbing which is solid 👍👌
@streetpigeonmtb Cheers. Yeah, that quite a lot of climbing👍
@rhettetherington1351 yeah. It's decent 👌
👏 - 🤘😎🤘 - ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ need I say more?
Thanks mate 👍
@@streetpigeonmtb UPDATE > Just had to go today and these trails a try - boy oh boy was I not dissapointed. What a cracking spot for a session on the eBike. 🤘🤘
@RicardoPetrazzi yes! That's brilliant dude. So glad you enjoyed them 👌
Regarding "cheating" with ebikes; I always remember a reply I saw on a forum, where the poster of a cheating comment was asked if they only rode single speed or used gears?😂
😁🤣
Its not cheating at all its progressions.
It's defintely fun!
Great video but you’re terminology on riding an e-bike is “ cheating”…..who are you “ cheating”….other riders, yourself? From the noise you can hear you got a workout up and down! We all love riding bikes and if you are having fun on two wheels….happy days
Cheers man. I'm still suffering a bit of eeb guilt 🤣
I agree. It's all about having fun. After hours of driving to get to these places, e-mtbs allow you to ride far more. An e-mtb at Golfie, is way better than a day on the uplift at Bike Park Wales.
Was at BPW yesterday 👌
“Cheating “ the laws of physics! is the only reason to buy an Ebike
That’s why it’s called cheating!
I like the odd cheat day 👌
You should be banned from saying “keep left” at cademuir.
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