Boothill is AMAZING but I'm worried about the Break Meta
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Maybe I'm mishearing but 6:40 he literally does have break efficiency in his kit though? Every stack of Trickshot increases Boothill's Enhanced Basic Attack's Toughness-Reducing damage by 50%. The best way to get 3 stacks is to break little mobs first then annihilate an elite this works with ruan mei or bronya or whatever action advance you have
Maybe I should’ve clarified having Mei’s break efficiency before trick shot buff. Thats my bad.💀
It increases the base toughness damage - which is actually better because it allows weakness break efficiency to scale multiplicatively onto it.
@@Iyoverse No worries bro, I now know what you mean in terms of the 0 cycle because building up those stacks takes up time and if you want to circumvent that you'd need ruan mei's break efficiency. But I'm still good taking a stable 3 cycle
@@mitzi3262bronya and sparkle circumvent that "issue" that is inherent to all Hunt path characters infact his BiS supports are actually those two because of his trickshot build up and NOT Harmony MC which is unironically the reason why Iyo thinks Boothil is pigeonholed to her
Yea people don't notice that Boothill is his own Ruan Mei I don't think he needs her. But I don't wanna discount HMC since they give so much BE and the super break. I think people should use HMC and Bronya together
Why is blud yapping about CR and CD when the very obvious build for him is full send Speed and break effect? We even got videos on YT with 0 cycles with boothill, bronya, ruan mei and pela. Boothill doesn't *Need* HMC.
Typical Iyo. 50/50 on his takes, always.
Too busy fapping to Topaz probably
Ruan Mei meta, even though its been Ruan Mei meta ever since
That's exactly uninstalled,
Ruan mei, Acheon.
And they will release trash characters afterwards. It's same as genshin, and i somehow never active when these banners running. Never playing there games.
One character miss and you suffer for 1 year.
@@sdaethyeah no, if that was the case you would have uninstalled if you missed Kafka and ran a dot team, you would have uninstalled if you ran FUA and missed Topaz. What did they do about those? Create black swan create Acheron. Create Ratio, create Robin
This take is bad considering it's Iyo the dual DPS guy
Ruan Mei is a BREAK EFFECT HARMONY FIRST and versatile generic harmony second just like Robin for FuAs
Smh
Complaining that boothil isn't hitting big numbers without his ideal team is wild considering 1. This is an "issue" that is never brought up in Tier Lists because it's an addendum and fully accepted there and 2. Boothil CAN hit the massive numbers WITHOUT ANY LC ON THE HUNT PATH!!!! He isn't tied to LC or Eidolons at all for that damage! Dual DPS comps exist with him BECAUSE of harmony MC and because he is Physical LUKA of all people can act as a weird bleed/vulnerability support for him.
The pieces for Break Meta have always existed it's just now we have TWO legitimate Break Support Harmonies that are making it shine. let me list characters just to prove how many there are
Silver wolf, Asta, Sampo (yes sampo break is a thing), jing yuan, Misha, xeyui, Gallagher, serval, boothil, blade, himeko, herta, Luka, sushang, Fire MC
So many characters that direct scale break or multi hit or have something in their kits that care about breaking
Just because we only have 2 break effect supports (technical 3 if you count Gallagher) does not mean we will not get more or that future characters will not have things in the kits that directly support Break play style (i.e.enabling super break on their own or something)
Complaining about boothil "needing" harmony mc or Ruan Mei is worse then complaining about DoTs needing Kafka like legitimately.
Iyo you yourself didn't want use to make Acheron the new DPS Standard yet you are unknowingly downtalking Boothil by saying his numbers aren't doing the beeeg damage yet he is legit doing equal if not more then Dhil and Jingliu WITHOUT LC!!!! sorry bro but you are unconsciously comparing him to her
Also this game is a team game so complaining that the Harmony MC/Ruan Mei is on a team where the main DPS cares about breaking is wild. If you have Robin/sparkle/bronya/silverwolf/pela that's your support for team 2 smh
Heck even if you wanted to hypercarry BOTH SIDES there Re enough supports and debuffers for both sides
Give it up man Break meta is happening if you want it or not (which you should cause it's literally dual DPS hell even triple DPS)
@@NiaTheMilkTankdude, alo of this is jus bull, 1 there's a difference between characters who can use break an those who are tied to it, basically everyone can use break bu only a few are force tied to it, mainly jus him an firefly, an 2, yea no we're not likely to get supports fo awhile fo break afa all we jus got them, an 3, no, Kafka an foothills situation aren the same, you din at all need Kafka fo dot, it was a bonus, whereas ruan Mei is jus purely the second most important buffer fo break an she's li in between sparkle an robin in terms of her need for her teams, an then hmc is li SW in terms of importance bu cept jus fo break so no, they aren at all comparable an rm + hmc is wayyy more essential to there teams then Kafka, you can play dot properly in early game befo kafka you cant do super break to the same degree really befo hmc
@@Yumiaia-26 reading this is actual pain
not only he has weakness break efficiency, but he can also trigger break on weakness broken enemies without hmc. Ruan mei is still ridiculously broken for him, but not to the point that he is unplayable. He can stand ground on his own. The only problem with him and other **potential** break dps is that no matter how much damage they do, they can't do shit until they break the target. If they release a boss or enemies with ridiculous toughness hp, break dps will just do negative damage. Not only that, but the fact that you have to spend 1 - 3 turns to break an enemy sometimes means that they are at inherent disadvantage in terms of cycle-gated content like MoC.
And yet the way to get around those issues already exist in the way of Break Efficiency (ruan mei, htb, Gallagher) and extra turns/speed tuning giving extra attacks basically a psudeo Break Efficiency (bronya,Sparkle,Robin, S5 DDD, Asta)
just wait bro, remember when people say DoT is bad because damage is depend in enemy turn ? where is DoT right now ?
@@Kaien-qf6cr it is LITERALLY this and it's actually crazy
I don't understand why Iyo doom posts Break Meta so hard recently
@@NiaTheMilkTank idk man, i cant argue because i dont get early access 😆, i wish Iyo standard of good char is not have to can 0 cycle
@@Kaien-qf6cr I'm in no way doubting break damage tbh. Mainly because in hoyo games, niche characters almost always tend to be really strong since devs overcompensate for their "weaknesses" compared to standard dps. Dot can be completely shut down by introducing enemies with billion effect res (you may say it's inprobable, but so is the billion toughness hp. It's hypotheticals made to signify weak points of a character's kit). I think that break dps is the best kind of dps if you don't want to do zero-cycles, as their damage once they break is absurd at f2p investments and they implant their own weakness making them "universal" as long as they don't introduce "this enemy is immune to quantum damage" type of thing.
Theres some stuff in this video that, although well intentioned, feels like misinformation.
a) Boothill having no WBE. Boothill starts at 2 units, but gets 1 unit of toughness dmg for every trickshot up to 5 units total, thats 1 unit more than xueyi's ULT, and its on an enhanced basic so its more frequent. That being said Ruan Mei is still a BiS pick because she takes those 5 units and turns them into 7.5 which is essentially HMCs skill at HMC e6 if every bounce hit the same target, its ridiculous toughness dmg.
b) Boothill doing no damage after weakness is broken. Boothills main mechanic is detonating BREAK dmg on weakness broken enemies. He deals up to 170% of his original BREAK to weakness broken enemies when hitting them with eBasic. You CAN run HMC with Boothill but its often REDUNDANT. And ill explain why (ill use round numbers dont quote me for this)
Say we have an elite with 700k hp
boothill does enhanced basic, hits 350k break and 180k superbreak for 530k dmg total. you still have to hit them 1 more time for 2 hits to death. if you didnt run hmc, youd kill them in 2 hits anyway for 350k+350k=700k.
In this scenario HMC had 0 impact, 0 difference and ive seen this happen numerous times where boothill oneshots a target and HMCs superbreak DOESNT EVEN HAVE A CHANCE TO TRIGGER.
The reason why Boothills own detonate is much stronger than superbreak is because
1 - its break damage, not superbreak damage so it has the 2x physical element multiplier which superbreak damage doesnt have ( sueprbreak doesnt discriminate element types )
2 - has higher scaling bcuz it scales on enemy max toughness up to 480, instead of the units own toughness dmg.
3 - allows you to not run HMC. You get to run bronya instead and increase his atk, cdmg and dmg% slightly for a bit more regular damage too, and 2x his actions.
Yes, all of this. Harmony MC being redundant is an interesting take. But keep in mind HMC delays action of enemy when broken by anybody, so helps Boothill attack weakness broken characters for longer.
@@Cadmun rm and his ult does that already
People got to realize that boothill's kit is very deceptive. He looks like a hybrid dps that wants to build crit, atk and break effect when that is not really true. 80% or more of his dmg comes from break. So if you don't break with him pack up and go home cause you ain't clearing anytime soon. That is why you should only prioritize as much spd and break effect as possible any other stat is so minimal to his performance it might as well be considered a dead stat.
Yeah. I'm just gonna build him with a defensive chest and orb so he doesn't die 😂
@@bromegaman5962 I'm planning this as well so I can just go without a sustain
@@sinniiarmzendlegz7100 Yeah I'm gonna try that as well. Boothill, Mei and HMC all add some type of delay, so sustainless teams with them have a lot of potential. The sustain slot can just be a Bronya or a Nihility character with def shred to boost his damage so he can 1-2 tap enemies 😂
@@bromegaman5962 Doesn't hurt that Gallagher isn't exactly doing no damage either. Slap him with the Multiplication LC, and boy may not be dealing a lot of toughness break gauge, but he's doing it often, all while topping off your party whenever the enemy gets out of their very long broken phase and actually deals damage.
@@Sines314 I have been using him and he does great with HMC for sure. Personally I'll be using Bronya over HMC, so his damage won't be too relevant when I use him, but if I do use a sustain it will be him since he at least gives extra break damage to Besotted enemies.
Another way you could phrase the current state of Break Meta is that it’s not done baking and needs some more time in the oven. It needs a few more ingredients to fully bake into a good pie. Don’t mind the weird pie analogy
I perfectly understood this, but it's probably because I'm hungry as fork this morning.. LOL
The muddle Fudger himself, I can’t wait for him
Yo Boothill has break efficiency on his kit, every stack of trickshot increases it
dont listen to him the only one necessary for boothill to reach a decent enough dmg floor is ruan mei and you dont even need superbreak or his signature LC. he works well with bronya/sparkle but wont make use of their crit buffs. bronya is literally BiS for boothill teams.
and his yapping bout how its unrelatable to do 0 cycle clears without sustains for most players dont really make sense cos most players dont go for zero cycle and those who do they have highly invested teams and 160+ spd on their chars. and in a matter of fact you can 0 cycle with boothill if you have him and bronya seed tuned with 160+ speed. there are videos out there if you wanna watch
Idk why Iyo always use 0 cycle as a measurement of power level when himself too say about creativity to not use hypercarry in situation of hypercarry meta
I think the break teams are gonna be similar to the DoT teams in that they have a high floor so they are relatively strong for the average player, but their ceiling is going to fall short of the high end crit based dps teams outside of insane quality relics or eidolons. If the average player can clear in 3 cycles or less with the team, I think it will be worthwhile for them.
HMC over bronya is just incorrect for his optimal team. That's not to say they aren't good for him, since they absolutely are, but the extra action is way more important for boothill so he can bulid up his trickshot stacks asap, and further capitalize on broken enemies. If you look at any people doing 0 cycle runs on youtube or ask of the boothill mains theory crafters and they'll tell you the same thing.
Yeah Bronya is actually so good for him, which is great because she has fallen out of favor for more DPS characters. Being able to utilize Bronya at this point in time is actually a benefit since not many characters want her 😂
i just think HMC is better than ruan mei in boothill team if you have to bring bronya
@Kaien-qf6cr good for me since I don't have Ruan mei
@@sf-ss9ly Its generally not a good idea to run bronya+ HMC together because the team becomes super SP negative since both of them want to spam using skills, but if you're missing ruan mei they will still be better than pela since they can run watchmaker
@@Kaien-qf6cr Nah people need to stop glazing HMC so much. It's never HMC over RM unless you just don't own RM. Break efficiency is too important. HMC is good but this is just cope.
imagine if later on hoyo release a series of enemies unable to be weakness broken or have weakness break lock on turn one (similar to soulglad monkeys) 💀
They will, trust me and just wait for it
That's why you don't go for two break teams.
2.3 will just make BE meta, the only team, like what hyperbloom did.
Exactly what I was thinking
Exactly what I was thinking
@@WildSenpai if v4 ff is not nerfed to hell. Then there is literally no use for any other DPS comp in the game. Cause the “balance” of the game is around the new units and no other team can even come close to what FF can do.
I didn’t think about this at all, but that’s hella interesting!
Based on what? Sure we're getting Firefly, but she'll likely just end up taking Boothill's slot on whatever BE team. We'll still be running into some of the same problems with BE teams in 2.3 that Iyo is explaining in the video.
I wonder if we’ll get a break version of bronya where you do a single target boost of BE and massive Break efficiency that has the damage boost effect of Xueyi’s ult. I think there’s a good bit of ideas that can be done with a break meta
What m thinking is 160-170 speed hanya +boothill so when h get his signature light cone +145 or 150 speed that means 200 speed boothill +an attack buff remaining characters are HMC and ghalager
The real problem with BE meta is that its easily countered by enemies that lock their toughness bars, and in the future we will only see more and more of those. Sure Mihoyo then will release a character that unlocks the toughness bar with the use of an Ult or something, but then you sacrifice 1 slot just for that purpose, which circles back the problem all over again.
I mean they can easily counter any playstyle they feel like. Most enemies locking their toughness bars so far are still easily beatable with break teams so its not that big of an issue. Breaking enemies has been a part of the game since the beginning whether to trigger bigger DOTs with Kafka and Luka or stop boss from using powerful attacks giving you more time to heal or defeat the enemy. Hoyo likes to encourage using different playstyles and characters but they don't outright invalidate them.
My guy out here with the terrible BE takes.
Yeah, okay. 🙄
Would be more helpful to point out what's wrong about the takes, even if they're very green rn (as basically every CC does when something new is coming out).
@@ch1dd Mostly its getting things wrong abt the kit. BH does increase WBE for every trickshot, and triggers up to 170% of his OG break dmg when Ebasic-ing broken enemies, scaling with their max toughness up to 480. This type of break detonation is better bcuz 1- not HMC dependent 2- is 0G BREAK (this means its 2x as strong as superbreak since PHYS's elemental multiplier is 2 while superbreaks treats every element as a 1 3- scales on enemy max toughness so elites and bosses get deleted.
You wouldnt run BH with HMC bcuz HMC superbreak tends to overkill. By this i mean (vs 800k hp eney) you do 400k break(+ detonate) +200k superbreak for 600k on an enemy with 800 then you attack again AND SUPERBREAK DOESNT EVEN TRIGGER because boothill's own detonation killed for the remaining 200k.
Instead you could've use bronya for effectively 100% wbe buff and killed in 2 turns anyway 400k+400k twice as fast.
The only reason youd use HMC is if you dont have good BE in relics, the 75% BE buff they give helps
@@loneylowf8876 While all that is true, the comment is saying break effect takes, which is in relation to the meta unless we're supposed to assume they made a typo and meant Botthill.
And HMC is still a big pairing, people would just ditch Ruan Mei. Make sure to not overlook everyone's toughness damage contribution, thinking only about the superbreak is half the mechanic when it comes to HMC. Flexibility is paradoxically the main advantage of break meta, both through builds and actions in a fight. As long as you're on element you're in control, and with this self-implant generation even that isn't necessary anymore.
@@loneylowf8876it's not that much stronger. Super Break depends on current attack's toughness damage, while Boothill just does break, but again.
They're just for different scenarios. And if there's ever a unit with 180 toughness damage per attack (wink-wink), Super Break on them would be better than Boothill's retrigger mechanic.
"break is weak in terms of options and needs a lot of work"
I'm a new ish player, I thought most videos actually say break is highly f2p friendly compared to other comps. Is it weak moreso for high skill ceiling stuff? like break is easier to build than like dot which needs kafka, but the ceiling is much lower too?
Honestly, people say hyper break teams are f2p friendly because of a couple options. First, HTB is completely free and just requires you to complete the story and side quests for their eidolons. Second, your BIS sustain is a 4 star Galagher which hypothetically requires less pulls to get. Also, the echoes of war you need to run for mats also give break relic sets.
On the other hand, you might need to put in more effort for your relics in order to reach certain stat lines. Hyper break also almost requires you to have Ruan Mei right now. HTB is also best run as a sub-dps rather than a pure support. But that requires enemies to stay weakness broken.
Personally, I'd recommend hyper break if you love one of the break based DPS characters. While Ruan Mei is a universal support, the other pieces can be a bit niche right now. That's coming from a F2P who is building a hyper break team to pair with a certain upcoming DPS.
No, the only thing you need is Ruan Mei. Which you should pull anyways even without break teams because she goes into almost any team you can think of. You get both Harmony mc and Gally for free. Although I will mention that for Boothill specifically, Bronya >> hmc. Boothill already has a superior version of super break built into his kit and wants to kill things himself so he'd rather have Bronya give him his stacks faster and essentially double his damage over the 30-40% dmg increase you get from having hmc on the team.
Break teams do a lot of damage but the floor and the ceiling are pretty close by because of how break effect works. The only way to improve the damage of break teams is to just wait for hoyo to release better break supports. If you've played Genshin it's similar to the hyperbloom teams.
I think break is pretty good for f2p because the stats are easy to build and you already have a major key to them being hmc, I think this video is referring to how optimized it can be at the top of performance and the problems with that
thx for all the replies!
I am kinda interested in Boothill moreso for the cowboy aesthetic and technically he can help with that new upcoming game mode iirc? but also, my pseudo plan for pulling was already kinda set with Jade (love the snake look and space irs collecting) and whatever unit works with Acheron. RM was never in my radar and I'm still far away from 300 selector for Bronya. hmm I'll have to consider further I guess
@@andysabur4966 Genuinely, I think that's a fantastic plan. The Acheron teams are pretty much universal for all content. And if you love the playstyle of FUA with Jade and the IPC Emergency squad, I think you're pretty set! Plus, Jade seemingly will last you a while and enable other squads as a Sub DPS.
If Mei and HMC are on the same team in that MoC, what is Team 2 doing for break effect? Just a normal team using the break buffs that the MoC gives, like the Trotter? Thanks for the content as always Iyo.
The second team should not be break if you use both on boothil
That's where he is forgetting that dots have a similar issue if not worse
What are dot and fua doing if you used kafka/swan and ratio topaz on team 1. This is a very silly point
Boothill actually looks really fun, but I think my biggest problem with him is even though he can implant physical on ult, he's basically useless if the mobs dont already have physical weakness. He needs to build up his stacks and that process is incredibly slowed down without innate physical weak enemies. Other top tier dps you can brute force content and pretty much ignore weakness if your teams are good enough.
Honestly, i feel like the break meta still does not have its ideal support. HMC is the enabler for break teams but RM was made in the context of DOT, her kit is just great overall so she'll work anyway.
I think the ideal support for break teams will need to cover both how fast we can break enemies(which ruan mei does) and guaranteeing that the team capitalizes as much as possible on breaks so i am thinking more of a team action advance passive after attacking a broken enemy plus some kind of robin's ult.
Literally just use Bronya for Boothill. It's 135/134 Speed Bronya set up. Boothill -> Bronya -> Boothill -> Bronya -> Boothill. Then just use RM for damage increase and Gallagher for Damage increase and SP positivity. Although personally I'd recommend HuoHuo for Energy Regen.
For all seventeen of us E2-Boothill-enjoyers, which two harmonies are the best out of Bronya, Mei, HMC?
I see people rating Boothill really high, without saying their source is gameplay with Ruan
Does everyone forget how big her buffs are?
You can switch it out with Harmony MC too , it doesnt have to be Ruan Mei and also he has a talent that trigger instances of break on a weakness broken enemy. He is already complete as a unit.
You only really run ruan mei for break efficiency, the rest don't matter that much. Having, for example, a Bronya which advances him forward would make up for that missing effiency.
Break doesn't benefit from damage buff, same reason why it doesn't benefit from elemental orbs. If fact, it doesn't even benefit from atk%. What Ruan Mei gives is spd, delay on break, turn skip, and efficiency., plus 20% break effect. That's where her power lies in BE teams.
Which is a relatively good thing because the only way to surpass her is introduced a solely break effect centered support with no redundant buffs
The reason as to why is because he is doing insane numbers with No light cone No Relics AND still zero cycling
@@Jackie_Tikki_TaviIf her dmg buffs don't matter, wouldn't pela be a better option since break does scale with def shred
If I’m understanding it right does your complaint essentially boil down to the following:
1.) BE is essentially hardlocked to both/either HMC/RM.
2.) Boothill has a ramp up within a ramp up.
For point 1. I largely agree, but it’s also pretty easy to see how they could add future break supports. The biggest problem is any future support for BE could easily break the game in all scenarios where BE is viable. Switching RM’s damage percentage for def ignore on Break or something similar would skyrocket damage in its own.
For 2. Yeah, but thankfully as you point out that’s an issue largely for 0-cycles. I think a conversation worth having is how much does the BE team open the door for psuedo sustain playstyles? This should be a consideration when talking about its overall place in the meta.
Looks like BH gonna be early powercrept by FF 😅
Very different characters/playstyles, so I'm not sure powercreep is the appropriate term.
Firefly is definitely easier to play than Boothill, though. Everyone in a FF team just does their own thing and they have so much synergy with each other that everything just works out.
In a Boothill team you're trying to set everything up for Boothill to land those breaks and kills instead of stealing his glory.
Other creators make guides.. Iyo goes in depth and shows you how to think for yourself. Invaluable content and a distinct channel among the sea shallow content.
Boothills premier team is ruan mei and bronya he dont need htb at all tbh
yeah, i didn't get the point he's trying to make. ff has superbreak in her kit and she still wants hmc
htb can help the team break the enemy faster if the enemy has img weakness
Why Bronya and not Sparkle?
@@miramaxcinemax5512 Sparkle also work and can be better because she does more but you’ll have to speed tune her with boothill (which I’m doing) but bronya is good because here action advance it 100% and not 50% but pick which ever both work
@@satvvrnvs boothill can also trigger his own break as well as has a ton of toughness damage with 2 bullets (which is not that hard to get, you just have to oneshot a small foe) so yeah...
Still way better than the shitty FUA comp
I don’t think the break meta has truly even started and that’s the only reason it’s not “ready”, but once we hit 2.3 it’ll have begun. Boothill and HMC are watering the seed planted by Mei and everything coming in 2.3 (iykyk) is the meta sprouting. It’s gonna be more versatile, especially because HMC and Mei will be peak together but will work separately with other partners (like Bronya, Pela, etc) and other sustains (especially Aventurine) will work in their own ways. Plus it’s inevitable another 5 star limited support and sustain that are break focused will come and take it to another level. Boothill himself has everything a break DPS needs in his own kit (toughness reduction enhancements, doing break damage on broken enemies, weakness implant) and who you pair with him just helps him do all of that but more. He doesn’t actually need anyone to do what a break dps wants to do. That’s why he works so well with other supports
3 cylcing with sustain is the real meta.
Each pocket trickshot increases his toughness damage effieciency by 50% up to 150%
Yes, I understand this part with trickshot. What I was getting at was more about initiating the break BEFORE trickshot is in play. It’s not like he starts with it and that’s where some of my points dwelled. With Mei, breaking enemies doesn’t matter. Without Mei, now you have to ask the question.
@@Iyoversebronya sparkle
Problem with Boothill is the break team doesn't need a hunt character. I'm not a fan of Argenti, but he fits the break team better than Boothill and isn't even great at it.. He would almost always be a 5-7th option for me on the team.. Erudition and Destruction characters that can help Ruan Mei's delay matter and Harmony TB being able to guarantee their own superbreaks is what we're missing.. Gallagher holding down that last slot obviously
Dude said HMC over Bronya 😂
Boothill primer team doesn't use trailblazer just Ruan Mei pelea bronya e1/s1. But I will say he is the most Stat hungry unit. And yes you want to go hybrid. Only with boothill e1 or s1 can you replace pelea with trailblazer
I don't have Ruan Mei (failed her 50/50) so my team until she rerun is Hmc Bronya Gallagher
Yo Iyo, what kinda glasses are you wearing? (Frame) They look fire, I like the retro/stylish no borders on the lower end look of it. Been looking for a great new pair myself. Haha
Hey Lyo
I saw you a few times mentioned that Seele should be player differently
How do you play Seele? I really wanna up my Seele game so thanks if you respond to this.
Especially when in MoC sometimes there’s only elites mob
you should make sure to abuse seele's action advance forward on her basic because with that you can get more turns in a cycle than you would with just spamming skill and also its best before you get resurgence to proc you should use ult if its up for example kill opponent press ult use ult on anybody or whatever and then jsut continue on because with this you can start off with more energy after you use ult
I was just thinking about this the other day. I think break effect teams are going to be amazing when we have more options.
for me I know its not very strong especially since i dont have RM but i think its so much fun that i havent had since kafka's release. Its just satisfying to do a set up and have it pay off rather than just spam e and get sp from support basics.
While I agree that we can get options that are more tuned to boothill like break effect buffers that have action advance or a super break unit with break efficiency built in, it's a bit of an astronomical take that boothill is lacking team options to make his break team functional and in NO means should you ever be maxing crit and attack without considering break effect or mans is transforming into physical yanqing.
HMC is very replaceable with bronya just because you have the opportunity to deal 250-300k basics + about 110k super break, or you can double his basic attack damage and deal 150k more damage then that setup instead. (admittedly you'd prefer some comfort enhancements like e1 or s1 for bronya) Speed tuning also shouldn't be a hassle since you can very easily hit a bare minimum of 134 -142 spd on bronya thanks to ruan mei, and boothill has to be above that speed for talia.
5:21 those dogs have 91k hp/??????
i wanna go back to the days where seele's skill for ~40k was able to one shot mobs 😭😭
hm i think you got some things wrong.
you mention Boothill doesnt hae Break Efficiency and thus breaks slowly.
Thats not the case as he has Break efficiency in his kit and breaks pretty fast.
Sure you get even more by adding Ruan Mei, but saying that he should also do what Ruan Mei does with Weakness break efficiency is weird. He is not a harmony Unit.
Another Thing you mentioned is that he needs Harmony MC because he wouldnt deal damage to weakness broken targets otherwise.
Yes he does, his passive lets him Deal up to 170% Break Damage on a weakness broken target + On Top of all the Crit Buffs/Damage Buffs he gets from his Passive and mates.
But lets say he wouldnt do that Damage, Why is Needing Harmony MC a problem? I see it as a Win that he needs Harmony MC as this Unit is Full F2P E6 and finally gets a real Hardcarry for the break Meta.
If anything then your Regular DPS are having a problem because there supports are very likely only obtained through Gacha, Be it 4 or 5 Star.
sadly due to Raun Mei having so much in her kit and is so usable everywhere along with break bar dmg being included in superbreak calculations she is going to be meta for break teams for a very long time.
tbh for boothill to work at top condition you only need Raun Mei atm as harmony mc is free and you only need any sustainer. its not as much as other limited characters
he is also easier to build as the most of his dmg comes from break
All her dmg buffs don't work with break so I'm assuming they're gonna release a dedicated break support
@Yoru... except she gives 1. Break efficiency, 2. More break effect, and 3. She delays all broken enemies for an extra turn.
She gives everything a superbreak team wants. So what her buff only gives attack
@@ragnarokpuppy398 that's it though. Look at all the other dedicated supports, Robin's buffs work perfectly with fua, sparkle has everything a hyoercarry could want, whereas break teams can't utilize all of ruan Mei's buffs so she's not really the dedicated break support yet
@Yoru... but she does have everything break dps want. Robin and raun mei give atk, which is a universal trait that's wanted (while not needed as much from break teams, it is still pretty much needed as a baseline to deal dmg during the times where enemies are unbroken)
Robin gives crit dmg to follow up attacks and a whole team advance.
Sparkle gives more crit dmg and a 50% advance to the hypercarry while making sure they don't run out of skill points
Raun mei gives more break effect, break efficiency, and extension of break (while not a team advance it still gives more time for superbreak) everything break teams WANT at all as break effect and break efficiency is included in the superbreak calculations
@@ragnarokpuppy398 you don't get my point. I'm saying fua and hypercarry teams can use all the buffs provided by robin and sparkle, whereas break teams don't fully use ruan Mei's kit
Boothill doesnt have superbreak in his kit but he can still trigger break damage after breaking an opponent.
I disagree that MC is a better slot for boothill than bronya especially when he deals damage on broken enemies already.
But if the general consensus is he needs better supports I’ll gladly take a superbreak enabler with advance forward k tnx
To say that you can't use your outtro has become your outtro 😂😂
I was wondering if you tried, Boothill with harmony trailblazer, Ruan meI and Robin? Do you think the team can live without a sustain?
People out here worrying about break meta, but Follow-up atk meta is just ratio, topaz, robin, and avent. Press auto-battle and watch em 0 cycle.
Where have I seen this before, oh yeah, DoT comps. But look at DoT now. Also Break Meta is actually viable(RM though is kind of a must though) and Boothill prefers Bronya over HMC when paired with RM because he benefits from more actions rather than the Super Break Damage HMC can give him.
Im curious if you think he'll work with firefly? Could you just run a bunch of superbreak characters and build damage that way? Im definitely pulling for firefly since I have mostly fire characters and no way to apply fire weakness thus far.
That "IYO" covering half the screen looks so bad
Consequences of being in the CE server. What do you want me to do about that? lol
I like your points that break effect isnt ready yet, but boothill is already the meta himself. All he needs is a bronya. Ruan mei and hmc are replaceable with def reducers.
I was also watching your background footage, and i feel you arent prioritizing his stacks. Get 3 stacks then kill the moc. Probably are aware of this now.
Boothill is a weird character because he only wants breakeffect and speed, his crit traces are borderline troll trying to invest in when it only makes up 10%-20% of his dmg. Just spreading a bit i know aboit the character but ive seen this man 0 cycle with literally 145speed and 200 break effect and 3 star lightcone. (Boot,bronya,raunmei, and Gallagher)
He doesnt need much to shit so much dmg out. I may be glazing the shit oit if ny cowboy but i feel he rivals acheron. Sure he isnt hitting 1mils but acheron also over inflates her number on dead mobs where boothill's dmg ceiling is locked behind the mob hp. (Seen this dude hit kafka for 800k)
Enough shilling, I like the review but i promise boothill only wants more actions. Everything else is extra.
Slide me that video if you can. Will be good for me to study up on if it's already out there.
@@Iyoverse youtube.com/@hiroshi6699?si=mEtyC8H-tQ7c3aaf
I'm shocked I can send links
This channel has everything that you need to see regarding boothill in jank builds and e0s0 showcases
@@pieman2025100% with HMC, RM however not At all people have done the math if you’re using a Sustain (Gal) then RM and Broyna are the BIS that’s just a fact I mean if even CN says that’s BIS then ya really can’t argue.
You can look at the great Mr P’s video on BH if you want to see the info.
This always seems to happen. There is always a worry for the new meta right before it takes over. Break meta is coming. Adapt or fall behind.
Sure I'll adapt once I get Ruan Mei 😭
I pray for the maidenless couldn't be me
all this talk about breaking and here I am begging for Gallagher to be on the FF banner 😅
I wouldnt put any hope in the new break relics either. Its cater to firefly now. They took everything from boothill.
How broken do you think firefly will be? her kit seems kinda crazy
I saw you had on the physical damage set on Boothill. Idk if I missed somewhere in the video of you changing the build but that set is pretty bad for him. His break damage is his bread and butter
I think he assumed he needed to build him with damage%, atk, crit, BE and SPD when he literally just needed BE and SPD 😂 He might be the only CC that did that from the 6 or so that I watched.
@@bromegaman5962 ya that’s a bit concerning.
its so scary how wron gyou are on almost all points you bring up. usually youre not his far off but this time hell naw bruv. Lights are on but nobody is home
Iyo you said Ruan Mei enabled dual dps, could you try Ruan Dual dps maybe with boothill luka or shushang. Boothill can make it physical weak the the other physical dps can possibly beak too.
so what Im getting from this is that the hard part is breaking the enemy with the ruan mei hmc boothill gallagher team.
once enemy is broken things are fine right?
Why not just replace ruan mei for another dps that can colorless break like xueyi. Then breaking the enemy would be easier and super break can take effect faster.
So im thinking: HMC Boothill Xueyi Gallgher.
Then make dps go fast with lots of BE and problem solved?
Respectfully, the only unit that can really 0 cycle moc 12 without signatures or eidolons and have a sustain is acheron. Even the fua team wants everyone on their signatures and in most cases topaz to be at e1. I don't think its a fair assessment to grade his ability to 1 or 0 cycle when the comps doing it (even my precious dot) need to go sustainless to do that.
I would suggest droppping gallager and hatblazer for bronya and pela. mei bronya and the def shred from pela means he doesnt need the super break bonus.
Acheron is strong, but not that strong. Without extremely good gear you can't kill the first wave until your second ultimate, then you won't be able to kill the boss until you get your fourth or fifth ultimate. This usually means 2-3 cycles to kill one side.
@@DXTrailer25 Yeah IPC followup team is probably the best team to 0 cycle with a sustain at E0S0 right now since Aventurine does a lot of dmg while sustaining.
Fireflies ideal team is same as Boothill so I understand
when its break team
Im skipping boothill for firefly
When did MC become a harmony character? I guess a huge change happened when I took a 3 week break.
This patch my man.
@@apleb7605 Thanks
When you showed his build you had phys set, may I ask why? You would get more break/Cv from Watchmaker/Thief to combining their 2pcs. Also you said no super break but his kit has a stacking break reproc depending on your medals. While not explicitly stated this is super break since it’s based off the phys break dmg reproc, this is alongside him gaining more toughness break efficiency as he gets stacks.
He seems fine, definitely made for AS with performance varying in PF/MoC as it is very volatile for new characters. But break meta is here and ready and cannot wait for you to change tune when FF drops because she is just a a brainlessly good unit in her current beta iteration. Then the meta will be a problem because a unit who can do everything will force the meta (aka DHIL, Jingliu, Acheron)
I’ve been playing around with all 3 sets and none of them make a dramatic difference over the other. Breaching 300+ BE gives me the cap on everything I would care for in his kit so I just played the character to learn more.
This isn’t a guide so I’m not using this as a “use him only this way” sorta thing.
@@Iyoverse makes sense, while I would assume a more break focused dps set comes in the future that’s good to know for rn. If it works on him or not that’s up in the air. Though I would assume Watchmakers may feed well into your current break team rn, but you’re probably at diminishing returns for anything useful.
I would look back into Bronya though since her AA would feed into high BE than HTB to reach max stacks and higher efficacy, as his kit already has the reproc HTB does not go as far on him as on other break units. You would need a really high speed(180-200 speed) with more AoE capability to stack super break targets to really want to run HTB rn over an AA unit. Thank you nonetheless!
Boothill damage is crazy. I might pull him instead of RM, but I have to try him first
ruan mei as a support is much more valuable than boothill as a dps due to powercreep, if you only care about damage. furthermore, without ruan mei, boothill's potential is reduced significantly imo
@@RaidenDisNots I already have every other harmony so I don't really feel like I need her. I could probably have a good boothill team with bronya and HMC. Also I need some physical coverage so he would definitely help out in that department as well.
@@donnyv4750 that checks out
@@RaidenDisNots I used to be able to brute force with Jingliu but recently I've been getting cooked. With some of these newer enemies, if you don't play into the gimmicks the are a lot more annoying to fight (quantum dino, soda money, Sunday boss, dot dino, the meme etc.). RM is good but if I can't even break I can't really put her to use.
I'm not so sure about your concerns here. Unlike Kafka who had no 5* DPS partners, Boothill comes out after Ruan Mei, who is already good enough for people to get when not playing Break Meta teams.
Is Break Meta team in quite as good of a place as Follow Up Meta teams are? No. But everyone has HMC, and Gallagher is easy to get. Throw in Ruan Mei for the ideal support, and you've got a complete team with only 2 5*s. Boothill is in a MUCH better position than Topaz was when she first came out, when she had even less support than Kafka.
The algorithm is not help Mr. Iyo right now
Which is better ?
Boothill - Bronya - HMC - sustain
Boothill - Bronya - Ruan mei - sustain
Bronya - Ruan Mei
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Those basic attacks on Bronya offended me personally.
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Bronya basics the GOAT. 😎
if your bronya is fast enough you can weave in some basics
I love Boothill, i like character's design, i like his kit, definitely gonna roll him an his signature. How weaker team Boothill+HarmonyMC+Galagher will be with E1S1 Robin instead of Ruan Mei, coz I've started to play after Run Mei's release and i don't have her yet, waiting for her reran with Robin banner. Or may be I should use Bronya instead of Robin?
robin at e1s1 is definitely stronger than bronya
Bronya is better, but I agree that boothill break teams are not S tier (yet). People see the 400k hits and ignore the fact that he has to take several 0 damage turns to break the enemies before that. He can 0 cycle , but other teams can do it with way less investment and brainpower.
Boothill is currently the most low investment 0 cycler.
Why would you be worried about the Break meta when Firefly is around the corner? If HoYo won't tone her down (and they have no reason to, people are crazy about her and she will bring them probably the same amount of money as Acheron), we'll have a character with in-built Ruan Mei, in-built Fire weakness application with every move, superbreak and weakness type ignore. Throw a real Ruan Mei and Gallagher there -- and it's over: enemies won't move ever since they're constantly broken (pseudo-sustain Firefly lol). It's sad Boothill suffer from being a Hunt character... again. And Destruction will most probably will on top... again. It's all still a subject to change but unless we get a lot of enemies with huge shields, the Break meta will be much stronger than old Crit (excluding overbuffed premium FUA team) and DoT imo.
I can say this, if you don't have the top sustains you suffer ridiculously I struggle so hard because I don't have the right sustains on this game and it's genuinely made me uninstall many times, idk I love star rail genuinely love this game but the fact you suffer for not having the right units is insane
"You feel some type of way about Seele, I don't"
I feel like I've got a pretty good grasp of the English language, but I'm not a native speaker. I can't figure out what this means. Can someone please explain? I'm trying to figure it out from context but that doesn't help much.
I believe Iyo means that some people in the community feel that Seele's performance or power has fallen off in recent patches. Iyo means that he feels the opposite way and believes Seele hasn't dropped in power.
@@kinghades355 I see, thank you.
Why is everyone forcing HMC with Boothill instead of using Bronya (who's calced to be better by well over 30%)? Was this a requirement from Hoyo? I wouldn't even be surprised with the 2.3 beta relic changes.
I wish I knew this. I think it's a positive to show that Boothill works better with Bronya, because then you can have Boothill and Firefly heading two different teams rather than feeling like you have to pick between the two
@@sinniiarmzendlegz7100Exactly. And you also don't need to run RM with Firefly and can put her with Boothill since he benefits much more with her. FF does too, but FF manages better without RM than Boothill.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but say I was to run boothill,Ruan Mei,bronya/ aventurine. If my bronya is e0s0, wouldn’t I run into skill point problems? Thats the only reason I might have to run hmc over bronya.
oh no im gonna decide not to spend 200 dollars just because i cant zero cycle :o
Anyone plz answer this.-does having 200 speed means u can go 2 times in 1 cycle
You need 134 speed to go twice
161 to go three times
134 to go 2 times in the zero cycle. 160 to go 2 times in the zero and the first cycle. 200 to go 3 times in the zero cycle
Having 200 speed u go 3 times on 1st cycle, and 2 times on 2nd and 3rd cycle, and u got another 3 turn on the 4th cycle iirc.
@@vxsol all right so what m trying to say is that if we get boothill with signature lightcone snd speed boots +little on substats it will be 150 speed give or take then we add a little hanya there170 speed (E2) so it'll go like +50 to boothill then it means 200 speed? So then by going 3 turns in starting cycles we can easily break enemies even elite enemies and overcome what iyo said
@@JayTheBoss242 all right so what m trying to say is that if we get boothill with signature lightcone snd speed boots +little on substats it will be 150 speed give or take then we add a little hanya there170 speed (E2) so it'll go like +50 to boothill then it means 200 speed? So then by going 3 turns in starting cycles we can easily break enemies even elite enemies and overcome what iyo said
This dude has consistently the worst takes of all the HSR CC's lol
Meta be damned, I wouldn’t skip this man even if you paid me in E6 Firefly and Jade.
Solid video as always.
Bruh forget the sustain, run Silver with him
Discord showed me a vid using Pela instead of sustain and I might honestly start agreeing that Boothill standard will just be no sustain. Watch when I say this I get attacked with "bad take. Unrelatable. Whale" for this shit too. lol
@@Iyoverse bruh I wouldn’t even listen to them, I find the Hoyo community to be a bit cringe in the way they complain about everything and attack someone for having a different take. With his damage and RM break efficiency+delay it seems possible to run him without a sustain, but I won’t know until he is released
Is this still a good game for new players? I heard there is no pvp, so what is endgame? I need stuff to do at endgame and pvp was always fun in games like epic7
Endgame really just consist of specialized modes with specific modifiers and enemies are normally way tankier. You also have a turn limit so u will need to clear within a certain amount of turns. Just a quick explanation
@@Saix1031 thnx appreciate it!
@@levitastic no problem. :)
Why did you not use Xueyi Boothill 2x harmony? Xueyi is broken himeko is alright 👍 but I think boothill is overrated especially with Fitefly coming out personally. I will prefer Aoe over ST anyway of the week good video
Boothill's "overrated" but he's clearing content just as fast, if not faster than Firefly as a ST damage dealer. OK.
It's one thing to prefer multi-target units, I do as well, but to claim Boothill is overrated is just false lol
@@sinniiarmzendlegz7100 and yet he just heard dude say he's struggling its OK 4 y lie doesn't mean I believe you. Ppl don't be knowing how teambuild.
And AOE will always cleats faster than Single target 🙄 anyways that's common sense which oops I see you don't have.
Yall GOTTA learn what an opinion with facts are kid i mean cmon none of those teams had aoe and boothil is single target.💯
Ruan mei Xueyi Harmony Mc AND 🔥 FLY will always clears faster than boothill.
I don't have to like him or praise 🙌 him so 🤷 🙄 yeah BOOTHILL IS OVERRATED asf stay mad go cope Idrgaf
@@DK-NationsFollowing your logic of AoE always being faster than ST.
Argenti is faster than Ratio? JY faster than Seele?
Wake up to reality lil bro...
@@th3docta401 Worh the eifht builds yup absolutely 💯 👌 👍 not everyone has the same builds and not every build is good
@@DK-Nations bruh maybe you should worry about learning to put together a coherent thought before you worry about gacha game characters.
Break is weak bcz enemies are fucking fast
Clown
Break is strong because RM and HMC have huge delays built into their kit. Boothill and FF will both be massively OP on release. We already have the numbers they can do.
I'm in need for a 2nd DPS but both FF and Boothill needs RuanMei and Gallagher which both I don't have
HMC over Bronya…
who tf is zila
I think he meant seele lol
This take is bad considering it's Iyo the dual DPS guy
Ruan Mei is a BREAK EFFECT HARMONY FIRST and versatile generic harmony second just like Robin for FuAs
Smh
Complaining that boothil isn't hitting big numbers without his ideal team is wild considering 1. This is an "issue" that is never brought up in Tier Lists because it's an addendum and fully accepted there and 2. Boothil CAN hit the massive numbers WITHOUT ANY LC ON THE HUNT PATH!!!! He isn't tied to LC or Eidolons at all for that damage! Dual DPS comps exist with him BECAUSE of harmony MC and because he is Physical LUKA of all people can act as a weird bleed/vulnerability support for him.
The pieces for Break Meta have always existed it's just now we have TWO legitimate Break Support Harmonies that are making it shine. let me list characters just to prove how many there are
Silver wolf, Asta, Sampo (yes sampo break is a thing), jing yuan, Misha, xeyui, Gallagher, serval, boothil, blade, himeko, herta, Luka, sushang, Fire MC
So many characters that direct scale break or multi hit or have something in their kits that care about breaking
Just because we only have 2 break effect supports (technical 3 if you count Gallagher) does not mean we will not get more or that future characters will not have things in the kits that directly support Break play style (i.e.enabling super break on their own or something)
Complaining about boothil "needing" harmony mc or Ruan Mei is worse then complaining about DoTs needing Kafka like legitimately.
Iyo you yourself didn't want use to make Acheron the new DPS Standard yet you are unknowingly downtalking Boothil by saying his numbers aren't doing the beeeg damage yet he is legit doing equal if not more then Dhil and Jingliu WITHOUT LC!!!! sorry bro but you are unconsciously comparing him to her
Also this game is a team game so complaining that the Harmony MC/Ruan Mei is on a team where the main DPS cares about breaking is wild. If you have Robin/sparkle/bronya/silverwolf/pela that's your support for team 2 smh
Heck even if you wanted to hypercarry BOTH SIDES there Re enough supports and debuffers for both sides
Give it up man Break meta is happening if you want it or not (which you should cause it's literally dual DPS hell even triple DPS)
I’m not reading all of this because there are too many points in here I’d refute or agree with due to them being irrelevant to what I’m specifically addressing in this video.
Nowhere did I say or even hint at “I don’t want Break meta to arrive”. Y’all are either brand new subs or saying stupid shit today on purpose because I am one of the first people to even push people into using break effect builds since CBT2. Nowhere in the book of Ratio would I, of all people, NOT want Break to be here & ready.
@@Iyoverse just because you pushed for it prior to the nerf does NOT mean you are advocating for it currently
The reason I said this is because this isn't even the first video on current Break Effect meta not meeting your "expectations" even though they are fully there
Also nah sorry man but all of what I said flows together as to WHY boothil and break for that matter works better then what you think
@@NiaTheMilkTank I haven’t even made another video on break not meeting my expectations for meta, let alone talked about anything nerfed.
@@Iyoverse you had a tangent during the tier list review with Harmony MC iirc
First
Nah super break just need a better tank
This is probably just an early Kafka situation. She didn't seem super ideal when her only real partner was Sampo, but the more DoT characters came out, the better she became in the long term. Break only really has Harmony MC and Ruan Mei as options so it is in a similar zone of "good but you have to invest in a playstyle that's not fully fleshed out." Couple of characters from now, maybe by 3.0, people are gonna be kicking themselves going "Damn wish I pulled Boothill now that this crazy new Harmony character that perfectly compliments the break archetype came out."
They could add a Sparkle type character that buffs Break Effect instead of crit damage, they could add a character that adds a second break meter that doesn't stun the enemy but hits them with the big burst damage when it breaks, they could add more ways for these break characters to function after the break bar is broken, and suddenly they'll become a lot more hype to use. We'll just have to see what the future characters look like.
yeah and lets not forget they dont dish out DoT characters one after another. i suppose it will take a while after Firefly untill they present new options in teambuilding in break effect.
so totally aggree with the Kafka situation.
The only prb with this is will said character Just buff BH or because said character should be Break focused will it Also befit FF because is they also Buff FF then BH is getting nothing really.
This is if they don’t nuke her with the V4 lol
@@The_CodFish69 why would it be a problem if all break focused characters would be buffed with a future character. I dont really get your point how Boothill is losing out on a new option.
@@ManuXnanu Well because I’m assuming you’ve seen the FF dreams so ya currently She is above Acheron so what I’m getting at if this new character buffs both then why use BH when FF is even stronger.
Don’t get me wrong BH is Amazing but as a LS/F2P player you can really only pick and use one of them at a time because 2 out of the 4 Characters in both BIS teams are the same.
So outside of ST situation FF is just more flexible so unless this new Support unit Only buffs BH welp it’s now FF new Support.
@@ManuXnanu yet again don’t get me wrong BH is cool and if you really want him go for it.
However Objectively if they don’t Nerf FF b4 release she is just too strong and because BH and FF share the same team niche I.E BE it becomes a competition between them both.
And sadly like I said if your a New/F2P/LS I cannot recommend pulling BH over FF at all especially because most people already have one Top tier ST DPS in Dr. R so unless you really like him as a character currently FF literally kills him.
0 cycle is possible with sustain with Aventurine in IPC team and Gallagher on Firefly team. New sustains will probably be able to do more dmg than old sustains if those 2 are any indication. Its going to be harder to market new sustains without much dmg as we already have quite a lot of great sustains that don't do much dmg already.
Going to be harder to market new dps without weakness implant or universal toughness reduction as well with Acheron, Boothill and Firefly being able to get around this aspect of the game.
I hope they release a support or nihility character that gives speed and break effect to make it easier for us to get more break effect since we wont need to focus on getting as much speed
literally asta if you use her in a no sustain ff team. Ff convert atk to be so asta provide 60+ be for ff and 50+ teamwide spd buff
Asta gives team wide break effect increase?
The best thing about this video is glazing HMC when even Pela or SW is better for Boothill then her/him.🤣
E1 fu xan or firefly/jade (50/50)
Seems like iyo doesn't really have a grasp on his kit
He honestly aint the only one.
Ya I called him out on his take and he got tiggered.
@@The_CodFish69 ye he is an overly emotional dude
ayo my boy iyo in the CC server ? lets fukin gooooooooooo!!!
Yeah, until they boot me out for playing WuWa. 😅
I am not really sure what are you saying because his takent has both or maybe it got changed 7:10
should i pull even if i already have ipc team?
i personally think everyone should have a DOT team a Crit Team and a Break team if only to maximize the useful relic drops you get
IPC would be Crit team in this
@@-rayzer--wolf-6474 lost 50/50 on kafka so i skipped swan dot for acheron comp. I have boothills bis supports so 🤷🏽
@@fjtted9275 i dont have the limited DOT characters either so its more a long term thought process of building a well rounded account