How Pocahontas Redefined How Europeans Saw Native Americans
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2017
- Prior to the arrival of Pocahontas in England, indigenous people of the Americas were viewed as cannibals, brutish, and non-Christian. Enter Pocahontas, who arrived in London, baptized and speaking English.
From the show Pocahontas: Beyond the Myth: bit.ly/2xzgwiW - Розваги
The way they hella sugar coated the story
Until you know the real and full story of Pocahontas or her real name
Yeah they do. This entire depiction is complete bs. 😡
History is a mystery
y'all forgot to mention that was about 11 or 12 when she was kidnapped
lostinYourReality you are a foul mouth imbecile
She was kidnapped, raped and murdered after having her baby.
myname is love your daddy didnt raise you right. A bitch must not step out of her place
Well technically all girls at this time were married off by this age. So it makes sense
Kimberly Magana that was considered pretty much grown up then.
Did you forget to mention she was 13?
Paneuropäischer Nationalismus nope she was definitely 13 at thee start of it
Actually she was 11 or 12 when the first settlers arrived when this happened she was in her early 20s still a horrible part of history but she wasn't 13
Im disappointed that event though this is supposed to be historically accurate they still cast a grown ass woman in the roll knowing damn well pocahontas was more like 9-12 years old
Even*
And they put a woman who clearly has European features. Pocahontas was pure indigenous so she wouldn’t have looked like that
You missed the fact that she's being played by a white woman? John Smith in his journal said that her and her father was as black as night.
She seems awfully happy about being kidnapped....
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*OH hELL nAWW*
I saw no smile?
"Rolfe is clearly smitten," well I guess that's all that mattered. If the guy liked you or not.
well, back then, women didn't have much saying in this matters.
woman's father was the one who decided her faith, in most cultures.
True, in her case the natives were tricked and the Imperialist stole her and gawd knows what else.
hate how they glorified it.
Manali Sovani Cry me a river.
Slappy nah I'm okay
Manali Sovani Yeah, kinda sick
Slappy stfu SLAPPY, I’ll slap 👋 you with my fist closed
Thank you for your opinion invaluable
More Native American movies should be played, especially on " thanksgiving", to remind those that this is not a happy time, it is a time for mourning & rememberence of those who were here FIRST & who died for this country FIRST.
RESPECT is valued.
Thanksgiving is a time of thanks. Plenty of wars and deaths have happened on holidays and every day in fact. So what we are not supposed to live because in history a group of people died. Yes it is sad what happened with tribes of America, but that goes for every war and conquering. We can't mourn all the dead in the world. All we can do is live each day of our lives to their fullest🤷
Actually Thanksgiving still should be.
There weren't problems with the pilgrims or the natives of that time. The problem started on BOTH sides with the children or Grandchildren (I believe it was the latter).
So the feast if athanksgiving was just that Thanksgiving where both sides were thankful and happy.
Actually, remembering the good things that came from bad times is extremely important to cultural traditions. You can remember both and be thankful for all the people of the past who gave their lives and led us here. That's why we give thanks.
History isn't black and white. There really were feasts of generosity from the native people with the white folk. There were of course also feasts of victory after battles against native people. What we participate in today is one of Thankfulness for what we have. It would be much easier to teach if everything was black and white! It is important to teach all sides of history while also understanding when teaching students there is ONLY so much time!
You also forgot to mention that whilst abroad in europe she spoke out against her people's treatment, and mysteriously died before she could reunite with her father. Textbooks claim sickness, yet the truth is she was poisoned before her people could rally and fight the intruders.
People were so sick back then
@@BozeDoesGodsWork still are
Tbh sickness really was the likely cause. Most europeans died of the various diseases let alone native americans who had no resistance from these diseases.
Small pox or European influenza is a possibility of diseases she died from
Share your sources for this information?
That woman is mainly European..
in fact she looks almost 100% and could easily pass for a southern Italian I think...
How could they not actually find a Native American or at least mostly Native American actress??
I know right.. Its completely insulting.. They literally could just come to Canada, Wpg in specific and find that there is a huge population of first nation indigenous peoples of many tribes that reside there!! You could literally see and find fullbloods just taking a stroll!! We have gorgeous men and women too!! I know so many!! And have seen so many as well just growing up in Canada.. Idk why they cant cast native actors and actresses for roles.. Hopefully that changes soon though! More of our native youth are becoming more inspired and educated to make something out of themselves now more than ever! Theres just nobody responding to it unfortunately :/ i still see other races depicting us. Yet we are all still here. Anyway. Canada has a steadily growing and concentrated population of First Nations Peoples.. Hope more movies and such can come out and cast real natives some day soon!!
They may not have had a willing participant. The actual "Pocahontas" (or "Matoaka" as she was actually named) was a little girl when she first met the English. She was kidnapped at approximately 13 years of age. Many Powhatans are not fond of the portrayals of her and may have been offered roles they've rejected. I agree that the people in charge of casting roles should have at least tried to find a Native American teen that could portray her acurately physically speaking.
Native Americans women do not look as good as southern Italian women
@@killermoon635 Maybe a South American indian girl would have been better
Okay I am going to say as an Native person, there are Native women who look like her. Some have very dark skin, others have very light skin. We all don’t have the same looks. Some of us even look quite East Asian in our features as many have slanted eyes snd mono-lids. So don’t get into a tizzy when there are Native people who don’t look dark skinned or tanned. It’s like Indians, there are some who are so light skinned they could look Italian or even Southern France. And others who are so dark skinned that they are darker than many African people.
Why are you romanticizing her story? It’s disgusting and you should be ashamed.
So what's wrong.... She was a human too....
@@adamfisher8429 here we go. if the European man didn't want his kids stolen, why was the European man here in the first place????? i have nothing against you or white people. however, i think your victimization is clouding your judgement. the reality is that the English came here and invaded this lands and not the other way around. if the natives would have invaded Europe and murdered and kidnapped people, i would be thoroughly condemning their action.
htownlithium That isn’t there land, it’s no ones land. You people keep talking like the natives own America.
@@aerojascruz So you agree with trumps wall and deporting Illegal immigrants right???
@@hentaimaster6221 Listen to your stupidity
This is disgusting.
Arlenis B why
Forced religion an white washing
@B. KCee history books false an fake cover ups disrespect native culture
*sniffs* I smell whitewashing
@manky toe nail06 That's just the smell of your upper lips silly
soooo y’all jus gon sit here and lie and glorify her pain ? oh ? ok.
@Happy healthy vegan They said nothing about DNA. You're obviously pressed. They were talking about romanticizing a sick history story.
I wonder where the documentary s going with this storyline.... Europeans could relate to Pocahontas? Why was that important? It didn't stop the colonization efforts.
that was never the point, it was done to ENCOURAGE colonization.
and thankfully it all happened because now we have the greatest civilization the world has ever known. Only problem is people from outside keep trying to destroy it from within.
In reality, it would’ve been more like The Handmaid’s Tale. Pocahontas doing what was necessary in order to survive against unimaginable odds. If you’re familiar with The Handmaid’s Tale novel or TV series, reimagine Pocahontas in the place of Offred. Jamestown/England is Gilead. It’s the same dynamics, but it allows you to see the perspective switched. It’s no longer glorious.
Typical . Fill in blanks with fiction.
The Roman tick abuses are intrusive manipulative and disastrous to environment and living things in it.
And they teach the "glorious" bs narrative in schools as of today.
It would be interesting to see a handmaid tale in her point of view.
The fuck?
Usually your videos are good - THIS is horrifying!
She brought peace to her people again when she stood up to the king
wondering what would had happened if Natives captures the English fair lady and converts her to follow the Native lifestyle.
This happened constantly.
Like in Dances With Wolves lol
Funny
They killed most of them...so I dont think she changed their hearts to much.
The woman portraying Pocahontas has European facial features...
What u mean she looks white af i am Native American and this b looks nothin like my people.
Patricia De mendonça She doesn't look native but she not that European. She looks like a mix. Honestly she looks Latina. Pretty but not at all native.
there are a lot of variation among native Americans.
after all, North America is a huge continent.
People of Eastern Shore didn't look like people from Western shore.
and People from the North didn't look like people from the south.
maybe one girl like Juana Maria the lady in San Nicolas Island ,XD
@@simhopp
Yes, but they still had recognizably Native features, this lady favors Europe.
I just visited Jamestown! I recognized those orange tutor-style houses :)
i had a very nice video chat with pocahontas voice actress
"She is none of these things." Yet, the SC decides to make Pocahontas a hot Italian looking 20 something. Yeah, great job.
The actress who portrays Pochahantas is beautiful I wish I looked like her
She wasn't converted if it wasn't by her choice of her own free will. You can't just force someone to believe in Jesus they have to come to Him on their own accord.
The Woman looks Mestiza rather then full or close to full Amerindian
Assimilation is so romantic! Aww!!!
I never knew pocohantas was white 💀
Y'all really sugar coating her tragic story huh 😡💔👎
If you watch the full episode they are a bit more forthcoming.
HIstorical figures for whom little factual information survives suffer the unfortunate fate of being woven into the fantasies and prejudices of this who come after them. Pocahontas deserves to be treated with more dignity than being reduced to a symbol of powerless victimhood, which is how most of the comments here represent her. When I look into the eyes of the only portrait made of her during her lifetime I see a strong and noble woman very much on control of her own destiny. I was born a short distance downstream of her final resting place, and to us she was a hero of noble ancestry who transcended cultures and graced us for a time with her presence. This is what the statue of her in St. Georges's churchyard represents for us, and this is how we will always see her.
Sigh why is the full documentary not available in Australia
3:18 she looks as if she's hovering
Very informative video 👍
She was 11 and would have looked very different. Google Powhatan tribe and you’ll see what I mean.
I'm a descendant of a tribe from Cuba and they were cannibals LOL
“Pocahontas arrives to find herself very much in fashion.”
Uhhh when did this story become about fashion? This entire video is just atrocious. I’m at a loss for words.
I feel so sorry for her.....
She has to wear that European Chinese’s finger trap from now on 😢
why are there no mention that she was a victim of rape?
Because there is no evidence
She's beautiful.
Jerome Sears she looks like a white caucasian female with make up.
She looks Southern Italian or Southern Spaniel.
I think she it's just some girl they threw in there to play this little documentary part
I love Pocahontas and learning anything I can about her...
I hate discussing her with most people. There's too many holes in what's known about her story and everyone loves to project their own thoughts, feelings, causes, and everything in between onto Pocahontas..
I hate hearing people try and speak for her, either way.
Her name wasn’t even Pocahontas 🤦♀️
1:20 i about to say 200 years to late for french Portuguese and Spanish Catholics
But English ok that’s interesting
How and where can I buy to watch this full documentary?
My family is related to Jean Baptiste Provost.. The first Quebeqois to marry a first nations woman in Canada Marie Therese Manitoba..
Wow I didn’t know they had perfect contours and bronzers in 1630
I think that it is good for me
Thank you
Smithsonian Writers:
“okay guys don’t mention her age or anything that could humanize the savages, got it? oh and let’s call her royalty, cause THATs so accurate”
C’mon man, she was a child when she was kidnapped and forced to conform to the english way of life. Even if she was motivated by saving her people, that’s still being forced by fear.
Im sick of our stories not being told as they really happened. And the only stories anyone cares about are the ones that y’all can paint every possible shade of white 🥺🤦♂️ sadly I can’t say I’m surprised. The Smithsonian still has “stewardship” over my people’s artifacts and won’t give them back so... Par for the course, still actively participating in cultural genocide I see.
She was kidnapped... but this time she was honored, you know?
Aw so romantic.
Now if only you told the true facts.
Disney Pocahontas ( The real part)
You know you guys are spouting out Disney versions of Pochahontas, don't you?
How proud her people would be of her, and how beautifully the spiritual connection helped to keep the peace between the two people. She went on to be a most admired ambassador of her tribe and again, furthered respect between the two nations internationally. She showed the white man that she and her tribe were worthy of respect and admiration. She was a credit to her race.
I don't know why that isn't celebrated?
Especially IDENTITY/VICTIM POLITICS.
Go to school, or at least learn some proper history.
It was the President of Oxford that absolutely forbade anyone from taking down some of their racist alumni statues down. You can not rewrite history.
Yes. Cecil Rhodes was a racist. He also created a railway along a continuous pink strip of land from the Cape Colony to Cairo. He also is know, of course for the Rhodes Scholarship. He left all of his money to the furtherance of education.
Thank God there are some real historians and intellectuals out there.
It's called facts vs. feels.
It's frankly Orwellian.
Pocahontas dont look like Pocahontas
Well I am glad she made them feel comfortable by conforming to their ways......ah
the nerve and privilege of it all!!!!
Poor Pocahontas.. kidnapped and brainwashed..
Malinche reminds me a lot of Pocahontas.
I don't follow.
Why is she white
Major Micah she’s olive skin and anyone from any country can look like that
She was the first residential school victim.
i love this story. true love
I- she was 9-13 and kidnapped and with a grown man and her culture was taken away her religion etc... what’s so romantic?
Let's no forget, Indigenous peoples were thought of as cannibals because there were cannibal tribes. They were thought of as irredeemable because there were many who did so much human sacrifice they were slowly depopulating themselves. Yes, those tribes who didn't do such things were lumped into those who did, but it did happen and was thought of as horrendous for a reason.
British Gaullians Aquitanns French
Portuguese Castilliangts
My wife is a direct descendant of Pocahontas.... what's funny is this girl looks alot like her too lol
What is the name of the film?
more please !
awesome
Can we also talk about the language used to describe the indigenous peoples as indians???
I'm part Cherokee Indian. 🦅🇺🇲
My cousin played in this that's him at 0:33
There are so many full blooded native women across the U.S. and Canada who would’ve loved to play her, yet they chose a Caucasian Italian/Spanish woman with a slight tan. How culturally insensitive can you be? 🙄
I have a history, character presentation, tomorrow at school I'm in 4th grade, and literally I'm Pocahontas cause we got to pick like what character will look, andmine was Pocahontas, and no one really knows the real story about the harness, so I'm literally a Disney Princess, what what the heck
Cecilea Gallecia
ALL MAJESTY, GLORY & HONER FOR THE MOST HIGH,YHWH! HER
GIVEN NAME WAS MATOKA.
R u ok
Looks like Natalie Portman
How hard did the English try to make themselves relatabke to the Natives?
Is this a thing?
"Betrayed her " Is that a grotesque enough evation for the word "rape"
My 11 grad mother
Pocahontas was kidnapped and taken as a hostage
No matter how you put it, it sounds like she sold out to appease the English because she had no choice.
Northwest Southwest Eastern woo dland
This makes me sick 🤦♂️
Whhheeeeeewwww the sugar coating
Oh convert to Christianity no no no our culture so call "religion" and Christianity are the same just worded differently they are the exact same , like how we say our creator representing god same spirit but named differently
Thats one caucasian looking Pocahontas
As a descendant of a neighboring tribe of the Powhatan, I was quite disappointed with this account of Matoaka's (Pocahontas) contribution. There are significant facts omitted regarding the brutal and cruel treatment that she was forcibly subjected to.
Thats a white woman
@2:16, Sargon of Akkad.
Why are they using a white woman for this?
Cause she looks native american more than she does white.
After looking in my family tree Pocahontas is my great-great-great-great-grandmother back 24 Generations my grandmother was full blooded Powhatan Indian so I think it's cool that Pocahontas was my great-great-grandmother 24 times over which is pretty cool
so she's the great grandparent of your great grandparent.
All LIES!! She didn’t even look like this.
Cuzz
hmmm, very interesting. The chief probably had many other daughters.
I think he had ten children from different woman in the tribe. But Pocahontas was his favourite since he was so fond of her mother. Pocahontas reminded him of her mother. Because she was playful. Which is what Pocahontas means. It was her nickname.
Yes, I most definitely see the resemblance to Elizabeth Warren!
It didnt glorify anything , the Smithsonian is just saying the way it was seen at the time of Pocohontas. It's clearly not like that anymore and the Smithsonian isnt condoning actions of the past. Quit getting butthurt by the truths of history.
I believe Rolfe was a tobacco planter from Barbados? Correct me if I'm wrong.
This is the Smithsonian and they believe this version of the historical account?
Literally Meghan Markle.
uugggggghhhhhhh...... just..just.........uuuuuuggggggghhhhhhhhhh
I was saved in every life
No you weren't. You were brainwashed.