Manny, you have come a long way over the years. There was a time where you, along with most of us, would have fallen in love with any new G-Master lens and immediately recommended it as a must have. Now that the Sony ecosystem has evolved, you have a much more practical viewpoint towards their gear. It’s much appreciated.
Personally I have the Sony 16-35mm F4 PZ and that lens for size and internal zoom for video is my go to. If I really have to stop down I usually have a prime with me.
@@A1000Truths you said if you needed a faster lens than the f4. You have primes with you. Then Sala asked what prime you use. You said 55mm 1.8. I was just joking saying 55 isn't part of the focal length.
Really appreciate your honesty and comparison to existing competition. No doubt the 16-35GM2 is the best lens of its class, but its not a necessary lens.
I just use my Tamron 20-40 f2.8 by Tamron. I was fine giving up the extra wide for some extra 35-40 range! I’m still able to Vlog with it but can do more everyday things with it.
If compare with 17-28 thats 12mm extra reach at 40. I am using 20-40 too, 17-28 feels like just gonna use it for very specific purpose shoot, hard to make use of it for day to day walk-around lens.
FWIW, I changed my mind and returned the 16-35 GM II. Marginally shorter and lighter than the original. Costs a lot. It is usable at 35mm which the original wasn't. But, I rarely shoot wider than 24mm which my 24-70 GM II covers. So, I ended up buying the 20mm G, again, which is an excellent lens. If I do find that I want to shoot even wider, I'll probably buy the 14mm GM, again, which is also excellent.
I love the colors and depth with the Sigma 16 - 28 Contemporary. I havent't noticed the slow focusing. I also have my focus set to responive and the fastest setting.
I’m having a hard time deciding between the price, versatility and for what and where I would use it. I have until Christmas this year to think. For now I’ll have to enjoy my Viltrox 16mm f1.8. I just bought a the a7iv coming from the fuji xt20. Taking small steps with these big decisions. ❤
If I’m just starting out getting my first wide angle zoom and there’s no other wide angle zoom with me. Would you recommend me getting a 16-35gmii? Mainly because I don’t have any other wide angle lenses to fall back to.
The Tamron has internal zoom which might make it better for video than Sony if using a gimbal. Plus it's 25% lighter. The Sigma I've seen other reviewsputs out a nice image, sharp with good contrast but has issues with vignetting if using a step up ring with your ND at 16mm making it kinda pointless to have the extra 1mm over Tamron when you can't use it. Also the bokeh is much nicer from Sony and Tamron IMO. Considering the price I'm going Tamron.
My Sony 16-35mm F/2.8 GM II arrived in the mail just now. As someone who has handled it, can you tell me if the barrel is supposed to be loose inside? Lens works well, but when you turn it over, the insides literally feel like they're slamming back and forth. I've never had a lens do that. Normal? Thanks!!
Love your videos Manny, but you didnt compare to the 16-35 F4 PZ! That lens is almost identical except that it is lighter, much cheaper and has internal power zoom, though obviously F4 vs F2.8. But for less than the price of the new GM II, you can also get the 24 1.4 GM lens, which is obviously way better in low light and has a more dramatic difference compared to F4
Wish he actually used it and showed us some shots but I feel like he was in a rush to get this video and just to talk about it. Heavily considering this lens or the Sony 24-70 gmii
@@salahuddinmahmood1452 ZVE1 has a great low light performance, with second base ISO of 12,800. So in the night time, 16mm F4 with ISO 25,600 and above, is it acceptable? Also what do you think about the weight of your combo? thanks a lot!
Zve1 has amazing low light. This is my first camera and lense ever. Saw lots of reviews online for both. F4 does limit light at night and the background blur (you do have background defocus in the ZVE1 to compensate for that). I am not sure what ISO I tried it in but it was pretty decent. Weight wise like I said I have nothing to compare it against but it’s very easy to carry around (vlog style included). Here is a video I made with the kit. ua-cam.com/video/1DeVELHYWH0/v-deo.htmlsi=zb22MfxVmNw_6F5m.
If you earn money with your top equipment, the price difference of 1000 to 1500 euros is insignificant. Most do not earn money and so it is an expensive hobby for most. Especially since most photos become nothing anyway. No matter how expensive the camera is.
If you need to release a new lens after 6 years I consider that to be a failure. The first version was rushed just like 24-70mm f2.8 GM That lens was garbage even dslr version of Canon 24-70mm f2.8 mkii was way better optically.
Your review was very ‘meh’. Your sentiment of hating these style videos was evident. Spent a lot of time talking Tamron and showing very little of what the GM could do. Not even sure you showed sample photos.
Yeah I don't understand why Manny keeps pumping out this content when he has made it clear time and time again that he hasn't enjoyed making these vids for quite some time now. "I don't like doing review videos," or ,"cameras are so good nowadays that reviews aren't that fun," we've heard those sentiments several times now. And it's a shame bc I love Manny's vlogs, I like the photo competitions he used to be in, and I liked his videos with portrait tips
Manny, you have come a long way over the years. There was a time where you, along with most of us, would have fallen in love with any new G-Master lens and immediately recommended it as a must have. Now that the Sony ecosystem has evolved, you have a much more practical viewpoint towards their gear. It’s much appreciated.
Personally I have the Sony 16-35mm F4 PZ and that lens for size and internal zoom for video is my go to. If I really have to stop down I usually have a prime with me.
What prime you use with it?
@@salahuddinmahmood1452 Zeiss 55mm F1.8 for the most part.
@@A1000Truthslol that's completely not in the same focal length. So more light and zoom.
@@e5211 he’s reviewing the 16-35 F2.8. I just prefer the 16-35 F4. Explain to me how that’s not the same focal length?
@@A1000Truths you said if you needed a faster lens than the f4. You have primes with you. Then Sala asked what prime you use. You said 55mm 1.8. I was just joking saying 55 isn't part of the focal length.
I would love a Tamron 17-28 G2. The 67mm filter is a huge win for me
Really appreciate your honesty and comparison to existing competition. No doubt the 16-35GM2 is the best lens of its class, but its not a necessary lens.
I just use my Tamron 20-40 f2.8 by Tamron. I was fine giving up the extra wide for some extra 35-40 range! I’m still able to Vlog with it but can do more everyday things with it.
If compare with 17-28 thats 12mm extra reach at 40. I am using 20-40 too, 17-28 feels like just gonna use it for very specific purpose shoot, hard to make use of it for day to day walk-around lens.
@@alan_kylim that makes a lot of sense!
One of my favorite lenses.
Only bad thing about it is dynamic stabilization is worse than Sony lenses. Otherwise it’s perfect for the price
You are giving your entire honesty. Very much appreciated.
I'll be going with the 16-35mm GM II.
FWIW, I changed my mind and returned the 16-35 GM II. Marginally shorter and lighter than the original. Costs a lot. It is usable at 35mm which the original wasn't. But, I rarely shoot wider than 24mm which my 24-70 GM II covers. So, I ended up buying the 20mm G, again, which is an excellent lens. If I do find that I want to shoot even wider, I'll probably buy the 14mm GM, again, which is also excellent.
Manny I'm feeling these videos . Your review on the new Sony cameras was the best on UA-cam.
I love the colors and depth with the Sigma 16 - 28 Contemporary. I havent't noticed the slow focusing. I also have my focus set to responive and the fastest setting.
can you make a comparison of the new 16 35 gmII and PZ 16 35 G ? thx
I picked up a used Tamron 17-28 for $500. Hard to justify an extra $1600 for nominal improvements.
Exactly, you can buy a backup camera body with the money you save.
I’m having a hard time deciding between the price, versatility and for what and where I would use it. I have until Christmas this year to think. For now I’ll have to enjoy my Viltrox 16mm f1.8. I just bought a the a7iv coming from the fuji xt20. Taking small steps with these big decisions. ❤
I have the 16-35gm not sure if worth upgrade. 🤔
If I’m just starting out getting my first wide angle zoom and there’s no other wide angle zoom with me. Would you recommend me getting a 16-35gmii? Mainly because I don’t have any other wide angle lenses to fall back to.
Your reviews are amazing man! Thank you 😊
Sigma 14-24 2.8 is superb for the times I want to shoot wider than 24, but that new GMII looks sweet.
Sogma 14-24 is awesome. Its a chonker though. I sold mine since i found myself reaching for the 20mm 1.8 more often due to weight.
hi, between sigma and tamron just for photography what will be best of both?
Love the Tamron 17-28, if I was to upgrade I would buy the 16-35 mark 1 because I cannot justify the mark 2 upgrade
Should’ve made it an f2. The RF 28-70 is the best lens on earth outside of the big dogs like the 400 and 600 2.8’s
The Tamron has internal zoom which might make it better for video than Sony if using a gimbal. Plus it's 25% lighter. The Sigma I've seen other reviewsputs out a nice image, sharp with good contrast but has issues with vignetting if using a step up ring with your ND at 16mm making it kinda pointless to have the extra 1mm over Tamron when you can't use it. Also the bokeh is much nicer from Sony and Tamron IMO. Considering the price I'm going Tamron.
My Sony 16-35mm F/2.8 GM II arrived in the mail just now. As someone who has handled it, can you tell me if the barrel is supposed to be loose inside? Lens works well, but when you turn it over, the insides literally feel like they're slamming back and forth. I've never had a lens do that. Normal? Thanks!!
I’ve had the same experience with my GM 24 to 70 and my GM 70 to 200. No idea what’s going on.
Isn’t it the Image stabilisation system that you’re hearing?
If using filters did not matter, what do you think about the Sigma 14-24 mm 2.8 DG DN vs this lens
I think at that point might as well go for the Sony 12-24 gm
Which Ultra band are you wearing?
Good but that price is crazy...
Its a great lens for sure and if you’re a pro then it might be worth the investment
Love your videos Manny, but you didnt compare to the 16-35 F4 PZ! That lens is almost identical except that it is lighter, much cheaper and has internal power zoom, though obviously F4 vs F2.8. But for less than the price of the new GM II, you can also get the 24 1.4 GM lens, which is obviously way better in low light and has a more dramatic difference compared to F4
Or even the 20mm G 1.8 which is extremely good value and very very sharp. Wider, lighter, smaller. Should probably be a GM lens and not a G.
Wish he actually used it and showed us some shots but I feel like he was in a rush to get this video and just to talk about it. Heavily considering this lens or the Sony 24-70 gmii
Looks cool, but its just wide,dude.. I still love using primes.
Guys, Sony 16-35gm II or Sony 16-35g for video for ZV-E1?
I have the 16-35 PZ F4 with the ZVE1. It’s a good lense how ever at night time you do need to bump up the iso. It’s not the best for night.
@@salahuddinmahmood1452 ZVE1 has a great low light performance, with second base ISO of 12,800. So in the night time, 16mm F4 with ISO 25,600 and above, is it acceptable? Also what do you think about the weight of your combo? thanks a lot!
Zve1 has amazing low light. This is my first camera and lense ever. Saw lots of reviews online for both. F4 does limit light at night and the background blur (you do have background defocus in the ZVE1 to compensate for that). I am not sure what ISO I tried it in but it was pretty decent. Weight wise like I said I have nothing to compare it against but it’s very easy to carry around (vlog style included). Here is a video I made with the kit. ua-cam.com/video/1DeVELHYWH0/v-deo.htmlsi=zb22MfxVmNw_6F5m.
This lens is too damn expensive, almost twice the price of the GM1 , so i stick with my original one 😢
Im not sure, but I've never seen so quick AF before
The fact that the other 2 don’t go to 35mm makes them non competitors to me
Super lens
If you earn money with your top equipment, the price difference of 1000 to 1500 euros is insignificant. Most do not earn money and so it is an expensive hobby for most. Especially since most photos become nothing anyway. No matter how expensive the camera is.
Too bad the competitors you tested didn't include Nikon and Canon :(
I’m looking at these too! Is the tamron lighter than the sigma? Or are the dimensions about the same?
Tamron lighter
Stats like weight are easily found online.
A REGAL MAN
🥺🥺🥺🥺give me one .
$3700 in Aus for this one
I'm subscribe in Indonesian,give me camera sony😊
If you need to release a new lens after 6 years I consider that to be a failure. The first version was rushed just like 24-70mm f2.8 GM That lens was garbage even dslr version of Canon 24-70mm f2.8 mkii was way better optically.
Your review was very ‘meh’. Your sentiment of hating these style videos was evident. Spent a lot of time talking Tamron and showing very little of what the GM could do. Not even sure you showed sample photos.
Yeah I don't understand why Manny keeps pumping out this content when he has made it clear time and time again that he hasn't enjoyed making these vids for quite some time now.
"I don't like doing review videos," or ,"cameras are so good nowadays that reviews aren't that fun," we've heard those sentiments several times now.
And it's a shame bc I love Manny's vlogs, I like the photo competitions he used to be in, and I liked his videos with portrait tips
Sony will end its competitors from camera industry in near future.
No.
makes no sense, lmao
At these prices, Sony might kill themselves before killing their competition!
Sorry, you talk a lot, but you don't say anything at all. Very bad review, a waste of our time watching it.