A while back I was cutting a bunch of mahogany,guitar builders always wanted to buy quarter sawn lumber.It was only when I told them to buy the log and I would cut it any way they wanted that I made any money from them...
The wedges that you are sending for firewood are rift sawn and have the grain approx 45 degrees. As long as they still contain heartwood these rift sawn piece are very useful as legs because they show the same grain on all faces. Hope you find this useful information. Kind regards Andrew.
Totally agree. You can increase recovery rate by 18% by pushing out 2 x 2 etc. 2 x 1 for mouldings etc. More work but the price charged more than compensates.
Absolutely do want to see everything about that kiln. Once again I loved your video , both thumbs up! Thru the years I bet the subject of quarter sawn lumber has come up a dozen times for me ,and all though I kinda understood , you cant beat how you explained and demonstrated with your sketches. Thank you so much. I hope to see more sawing after you master it a bit. Another channel I watch religiously (mark galicic) is going to show building a kiln. Btw he watches you as well, I reccomended you to him, he said too late, I already watch them. Have a great week ,I'll see you again Sunday coming.
Great job young lady, your father must be a proud man. He is definitely a lucky man. I think a video series on the kiln process would be a good thing. Thanks for your time making these videos and God Bless your family.
Trick for the 1/4 saw slabs... make 3 cuts on your 1st pass; 1 center, 1 5/4 up, and one 5/4 down. That gets you 2 full live edge 1/4 sawn slabs out of the middle and saves a bit of turning. Also, the larger slabs can sell for more.
I'm a woodworker and love quarter sawn boards. Due to cost, I don't get to use them very often. Wish I could buy them directly from a mill like yours and dry myself. I bet it would be a lot less expensive.
Our shop uses quartersawn extensively for furniture projects. Absolutely a beautiful way to go if the customer can afford it. When you sell some of that you should ask them to send you pics of the final product created with it. It would be fun to see some of your wood go from tree to table, etc.
Good video. I never ever thought about quart sawing with a horizontal mill. There is a lot of waste with most sawing of quarter sawing. Thus larger diameter logs might yield more.. The wood so much more stable cutting it into quarter sawn.. keep going..😁I Often cut live oak here in California using a vertical band saw.. most of my pieces are shorter than 30 inches.. before I start I coat both ends of the log with cheap caulking to seal and guard against checking.. after the pieces are cut I stack them into the attic of the woodshop.. The attic get over 140 degrees from spring to fall.. The old rule of thumb is for every inch of thickness it takes a year to dry out green wood.. But the attic only takes about 3 months and a very small fan circulates the air up there to.. Finding cheap heat for your kiln will be key.. Air circulation is very important too.
I was born and raised in the sawmill business. I started working at my uncle's mill as a kid then moved on to other companies in his chain of friends. I worked at a lumber company in Central Valley California that was supposed to be the first mill using computers in CA and possibly the USA. Pulling chain at that mill was so difficult I quit and joined the Army in 68. Now I miss it all and as a woodworker, I really enjoy your videos. As a side note, I purchase most of my wood directly from sawmills in my area.
Thank you so much for your videos, I learned so much about the sawmill operation from your videos and especially this quarter sawing now it all makes sense.
Really enjoy your videos, the script, narration, footage, editing, music. It's nature, outdoors, nostalgic, salt of the earth, hard work, honest, beautiful, you manage to elicit quite a range, well done!
Thanks for this. Delivery of our mill is still a year out but your videos are very educational and we'll be referring to much of your content as we learn.
I love it, finally someone that understands that quarter sawn is a procedure not vertical grain although the grain will be furniture grade. If a person wants all vertical grain you need to use a rift saw mill defined as a mill where the blade is always cutting to the center of the log. Very rare in today's world. nice video.
I love arts and crafts and mission style furniture. Most of the wood used for that style of furniture from the early part of the twentieth century is quarter sawn. Many excellent examples can be seen at Roycroft in East Aurora, New York. I hope the wood you saw is still being enjoyed a hundred years from now.
Great job learning to QS. You are correct in log selection. I would suggest logs which are just about too big for your mill on the first cut. The wider the QS Board the more valuable and there is no reason to leave wane on so you can lightly slab the top of a large log and take some sapwood off. The further from the center yo get you are creating Rift Sawn material when the growth rings are at 45 deg to the face. As for the final wedges... there is great turning square stock in them ie" 2-1/4" sq 3-1/4" sq 4-1/4 sq for table legs since they will be nearly perfectly Rift Sawn which fine furniture makers use not flat sawn for square or turned legs. IF I can ever get my 3-4' dia Sycamores cut down, I'll bring them to you and they will make some phenomenal QS Boards. Even if a log is too big for the mill, it can be chain-sawn lengthwise into massive quarter sections.
In the mill where I worked, when the saw "waved," we called it snaking. A couple of those logs looked like they had a fair amount of compression wood in them. A saw blade will definitely snake through compression wood. Great video!
I would love to watch your videos on making a dry kiln, I will be building one this summer. Thank you sir for teaching your daughters about outdoors things, and being a Sawyer. God bless
A plain. Or flat sawn board as it looses or gaines moisture it expands or shrinks across the width of the board. In a quarter sawn board it gains or losses thickness as moisture moves through it .some wood like walnut shrinks very little and is called diminsionly very stable .other species like sycamore are very unstable .here quarter sawing shines plus sycamore has raY flex aka medulary rays .that grain pattern everybody wants when they quarter saw logs .God bless keep on sawing .
Congratulations on a very clear and concise explanation of the process. Success once again🏆😁. A video following the kiln build would be of great interest to many. 👍
Quarter sawn sycamore is so beautiful. I made many pieces of furniture and cabinets with it. Probably the best looking grain in our species available in the north east.
Kiln yes please. It's on my wish list as is quarter sawing. At the moment I mill for use on the farm, barn improvements, tractor shed etc but I fear the way this mad world is going I'm going to have to start selling as every penny I can earn becomes more important. Thanks from Wales, your efforts are truly appreciated by this old man.
As a veteran wood floor layer all 1/4 lumber is the best you can install.and quite frankly it's prettier ..and sometimes double the price...great presentation Ladies love your channel!!!
Very informative a new living in BC, I was interested in the difference between 1/4 sawn grain and vertical grain which is sought after here in BC. Thanks for showing me your technique. Yes an episode or more in building a kiln would be enjoyed by this subscriber.
Your cinematography and editing are mesmerizing and visually lyrical. It is as professional as it gets. If you go to college, please consider filmmaking (producer/director/cinematographer).
I’ll throw in my 2 cents. I would stop the camera aperture down 1-2 stops to get a longer depth of field. Having some defocus is useful, but I think it’s a little severe.
I am a retired self employed cabinet and furniture maker and I used both quarter and rift cut white and red oak on several projects over the years. It is nice to work with. I also used a variety of different curly woods. Cherry can look like puffy clouds when curly. The strangest wood I ever worked with was called bark pocket ash. I don't know if it is a thing or a name that my friends at Cole Hardwoods made up for this ash that came through the yard to be dried. I really like this video. Keep them coming.
We liked your explanation of how logs are quarter sawn to obtain fine looking grain in the wood. Your diagrams on the end of the log were very helpful for understanding the quarter-sawn process. Yes, we would like to see videos on the building of your kiln.
Sawing from the bottom makes a lot of sense, and easy to understand. I have a different brand of mill, and I’m not sure that I could keep the dogs low enough, and still hold the log steady. Thx for the video!
Hi Emerald how are you? It sure is nice of you folks helping out with the family business! My kiddos are too busy doing their thing, to come help ole pops with his hobby business. Quarter sawing is wasteful but like you said it is more stable, stronger, more pleasing to the eye. I don’t cut much hard wood, but I will soon. A huge oak will be coming in for sawing so that should be nice to cut. I usually cut a lot of pine. I had a fella who wanted quarter sawn lumber. 6x6’s, 2x8’s and 2x6’s. The throat on my saw is only 8.5 inches so I cut the bark flitches off, got a square Cant 20 inches. Dropped 6 1/8 made the cut, flipped can’t over cut another 6 1/8. Pulled both off the mill boxed the pith then brought the slabs back on to cut 2x6 a off both side of the slab. This gave me 2 2x6s and a 6x6 quarter sawn. 2x6s almost riff sawn but he was ok due to grain being straight. Cutting his order was a lot of work, I learned a lot about log, slab management and about Proper procedure on how to cut and be productive. Was a good money maker, also got some good fire wood as well. Thanks for sharing take care and God bless you and yours.
Very interesting! I've had a fellow woodworker try to explain quarter sawing to me before, but it never quite made sense. But watching this video made it quite clear. Thanks. Oh, and don't forget that some woodworkers want that live edge. Thanks again!
Some very beautiful boards. There are some other benefits to quarter sawn and edge grain wood, one of them is flexibility. When bending a flat grain board for the hull of a boat there is a tendency for the grains to delaminate and split. Also, edge grain and quarter sawn boards still shrink and expand, but in different directions. The flat sawn board will warp due to differing expansion along the annular rings because they are different lengths, but experiencing the same rate of expansion. So, for example, on the heart side a ring might be 1" long and expand 2% of that 1", while on the other side the ring is 10" long and expands 2% of the 10", or 0.02" vs 0.2". So one side of the board is longer than the other, it either forms a cup ow crown, or splits to relieve the tension. An edge grain board just gets thicker.
Thanks for showing how ya quarter saw. That was interesting. I have close to 200 acres here in northeast Ohio with 114 acres in woods have been considering buying a wood processor and possibly a portable mill.
Best view of how to do 1/4 sawing on the internet. You guys did fantastic. Yes build a kiln and dry them boards. You would beat Lowe's any day. Can't wait till the next video. Great job.
Great to see your quarter sawn! We don't have much in the way of local family run sawmills in lancashire uk. Would love to see an extended video on the kiln build. Love your videos, keep up the great work, thanks for sharing 👍
Great video. Quarter sawn lumber is what we wood wokers love best. Love your music and the beautiful fall backdrop of the forest is not too shabby either. Keep up the good work and give your bosses a pat on the back!!
I have an LT40 like yours. I've been quarter sawing for years. Below somebody said to take 3 cuts before you turn the log. This is limited to how well your blade is behaving in a wide cut. Take your first cut 1 board thickness above the pith. Second through the pith, and 3rd one board thickness below the pith. These boards will have to be split down the center to get rid of the pith mess. Also I zero out the kurf and set one of the presets to zero. That way when you hit auto next cut after lifting the blade, it will come very close to the same position as the last cut....ie....1 1/4"
The method of quarter sawing you're using is called Reverse Roll. It maximizes that amount of quarter sawn lumber you get from the log. There are other methods of quarter sawing lumber and there are many youtube videos that show how it's done. Larch trees (or Tamarack in North America) when quarter sawn produce what is known as lace wood.
bwillan, The method shown here is true quarter sawing. Reverse roll is totally different and involves "rolling" the partial log (usually a half log) through multiple angles in order to keep the blade close to perpendicular to the growth rings.
It's financially just not worth the effort as customers rarely want to pay extra for it. Especially on those tiny sticks. Wainscot oak and especially lacewood may be worth it but even with through and through sawing you will get enough to satisfy the demand. The lost skill these days seems to be crown cut with the correct taper set. Or mahogany curl.
Wedges could make nice sturdy hiking staffs or perhaps canes. Wonder if there any wood carvers around there? Maybe axe handles or other tools, might be more valuable than firewood. TFS
This was a really good video. Can you cut the tree in half and then take a few very large cuts (the width of the tree) first and then do the quarter sawn after? You would have some really wide beautiful full grain boards.
Thanks for this and all your videos. I greatly admire you and your siblings great work ethic and entrepreneurship. What you already have learned about running a business is at least equivalent to an MBA from a prestigious university.
Thanks for this video, very interesting to see exactly how it's done instead of reading about it in a book. My woodworking skills are good but I don't have any experience using quarter sawn lumber I can appreciate the it's beautiful appearance I really enjoy the process of building and completing a project. I love watching logs being milled into lumber and I love taking rough sawn lumber to do my part to mill it into usable planks.
I have worked with wood for 30+ years and have been a serious woodworker for about 12 years. I've looked at illustrations of quarter-sawn logs but this is the first time I really understood the process of how it's cut and it's advantages! Thank you very much! I would love a video of the kiln build.
good looking quarter sawn! MUCH nicer lumber. And some of the outer cuts will be rift sawn, which actually are really nice. Rift is really nice for "legs" or other stuff where you can see all 4 sides of a piece. So.... when the boards are rift, maybe wider is good...? (like 8 quarters)
I love quarter sawn hardwood . It's the best . I see it most often when restoring antique furniture of good quality . Your music selection on this video was 👌 excellent ! Thank You so much for sharing it 😊
I really love the grain of the finished board. The extra work was worth the effort. I would love to see a video about the kiln build. I am always interested in learning more.
Girls, it may seem very difficult now, but someday all of this hard work will pay back. The skills you learn doing this work will perfect your lives with the fruits of hard labor. So please carry on. Try to have fun while doing your work safely and efficiently.
I'm not sure what species of hard wood yall are cutting but the quarter sawed wedges would make awesome musical instrument necks. For guitar and mandolins ect.
beautiful. I'm going to do a quarter sawn oak log on my wood-mizer tomorrow! I'm jealous, keep up the good work. Seeing the Kiln setup would be awesome.
That lumber makes beautiful furniture! Great video and you girls are awesome! Some good workers that (Boss/Dad) has! 👍 have a good week. From Northwestern Vermont
Never done it! This is a great explanation, we have a radial mill and I thing I would have to end for end each cut. 🤔 Thanks. Show the kiln! Be well folks
Now that was interesting. I hadn't thought of the grain differences before and your quarter sawing made it clear how grain runs change the strength and durability of the wood. Yes, the kiln drying will be interesting, as would be any dry storage for seasoning.
some of my best projects were with quarter sawn oak. I made a hall mirror with cubby holes and a couple of blanket chests. I would like to see the construction of the kiln. Thanks for posting your videos!
thanks too you I truly know what quarter saw wood is... thank you for the education... keep up the good work and stay warm... and yes show the kiln build...
Great video Emerald. All that I should of ... about quarter sawing but didn't ask! Very good demos , drawings and explaining . This is why antique oak furniture can look so special. Your family is such a good example for so many reasons,Thank You !
Try on the first cut take blade to center cut, then rase blade up one or two thickness of lumber. Saw two or four boards. That will yeald wide quarter sawn boards. Split the remaining half round slabs in half and finish cutting with the flip flop style. You could send the two center cut boards on to the edger or cut 2" of the pith out depending what the boss says. Please let me know your opinion of my suggestion. I can't get enough of the beautiful smiles.
Thanks for the lesson I have a new Logosol Pro751B Sawmill and cannot wait to try that. Also, I went to Mr. Tom's site and subscribed! Thank you for the tip a link would have helped me find him sooner though! If you give him another shout out a link is always handy as some of us are not to tech savy. Yes on seeing the kiln built!!!!!!!! Put the boss on someday it would be great hearing him tell how he got into the business and into climbing... Make it your Mom and Dad... I think they are pretty humble but I would love to hear them tell the story and you can edit it so they are happy (or tolerate) the outcome! God bless! ;~D
You betcha I want to see everything about the building and operation of the kiln! So happy to see you going into quality hardwoods production. Don't forget to add the "second cut" face cuts from your logs that you flat cut. You get beautiful cathedral grain a lot of people love. Today I was working with some quarter sawn walnut that I have been air drying for 45 years! I much prefer the color tones of air-dried walnut to kiln dried. Thanks for your videos, you and your family are doing fantastic things!
45 years?! I've got some that's been around for 25 or so. It's as dry as it will ever get. I take it in the house to dry it further. Momma's not happy about that but ...,.
A while back I was cutting a bunch of mahogany,guitar builders always wanted to buy quarter sawn lumber.It was only when I told them to buy the log and I would cut it any way they wanted that I made any money from them...
The wedges that you are sending for firewood are rift sawn and have the grain approx 45 degrees. As long as they still contain heartwood these rift sawn piece are very useful as legs because they show the same grain on all faces. Hope you find this useful information.
Kind regards Andrew.
Totally agree. You can increase recovery rate by 18% by pushing out 2 x 2 etc. 2 x 1 for mouldings etc. More work but the price charged more than compensates.
@ andrewballantine Andrew. Nice to see someone that values a log.
Anyone can make fire wood, but few know how to make good lumber 😊
Absolutely do want to see everything about that kiln. Once again I loved your video , both thumbs up! Thru the years I bet the subject of quarter sawn lumber has come up a dozen times for me ,and all though I kinda understood , you cant beat how you explained and demonstrated with your sketches. Thank you so much. I hope to see more sawing after you master it a bit. Another channel I watch religiously (mark galicic) is going to show building a kiln. Btw he watches you as well, I reccomended you to him, he said too late, I already watch them. Have a great week ,I'll see you again Sunday coming.
Definite YES to the kiln building! Nice to have the young pups teach a few old dogs some new tricks! :)
As a woodworker, quarter sawn white oak is one of my favorites. Thanks for the video. Would also be interested in the kiln.
Great job young lady, your father must be a proud man. He is definitely a lucky man. I think a video series on the kiln process would be a good thing. Thanks for your time making these videos and God Bless your family.
Trick for the 1/4 saw slabs... make 3 cuts on your 1st pass; 1 center, 1 5/4 up, and one 5/4 down. That gets you 2 full live edge 1/4 sawn slabs out of the middle and saves a bit of turning. Also, the larger slabs can sell for more.
That sounds like a great idea. I will definitely try that
Superb explanation. This is one of the most intelligently produced channels on utube.
I'm a woodworker and love quarter sawn boards. Due to cost, I don't get to use them very often. Wish I could buy them directly from a mill like yours and dry myself. I bet it would be a lot less expensive.
Our shop uses quartersawn extensively for furniture projects. Absolutely a beautiful way to go if the customer can afford it. When you sell some of that you should ask them to send you pics of the final product created with it. It would be fun to see some of your wood go from tree to table, etc.
I agree.
Good video. I never ever thought about quart sawing with a horizontal mill. There is a lot of waste with most sawing of quarter sawing. Thus larger diameter logs might yield more.. The wood so much more stable cutting it into quarter sawn.. keep going..😁I Often cut live oak here in California using a vertical band saw.. most of my pieces are shorter than 30 inches.. before I start I coat both ends of the log with cheap caulking to seal and guard against checking.. after the pieces are cut I stack them into the attic of the woodshop.. The attic get over 140 degrees from spring to fall.. The old rule of thumb is for every inch of thickness it takes a year to dry out green wood.. But the attic only takes about 3 months and a very small fan circulates the air up there to.. Finding cheap heat for your kiln will be key.. Air circulation is very important too.
I was born and raised in the sawmill business. I started working at my uncle's mill as a kid then moved on to other companies in his chain of friends. I worked at a lumber company in Central Valley California that was supposed to be the first mill using computers in CA and possibly the USA. Pulling chain at that mill was so difficult I quit and joined the Army in 68. Now I miss it all and as a woodworker, I really enjoy your videos. As a side note, I purchase most of my wood directly from sawmills in my area.
I tip my hat to you. Thank you so much for serving.
Enjoyed your tutorial on 1/4 sawing. Yes, by all means in providing some videos in the construction of your kiln.
Thank you so much for your videos, I learned so much about the sawmill operation from your videos and especially this quarter sawing now it all makes sense.
Really enjoy your videos, the script, narration, footage, editing, music.
It's nature, outdoors, nostalgic, salt of the earth, hard work, honest, beautiful, you manage to elicit quite a range, well done!
Thanks for this. Delivery of our mill is still a year out but your videos are very educational and we'll be referring to much of your content as we learn.
I love it, finally someone that understands that quarter sawn is a procedure not vertical grain although the grain will be furniture grade. If a person wants all vertical grain you need to use a rift saw mill defined as a mill where the blade is always cutting to the center of the log. Very rare in today's world. nice video.
Thank you found this one most educational about the different cuts especially 1/4 sawing
I love arts and crafts and mission style furniture. Most of the wood used for that style of furniture from the early part of the twentieth century is quarter sawn. Many excellent examples can be seen at Roycroft in East Aurora, New York. I hope the wood you saw is still being enjoyed a hundred years from now.
Great job learning to QS.
You are correct in log selection.
I would suggest logs which are just about too big for your mill on the first cut.
The wider the QS Board the more valuable and there is no reason to leave wane on so you can lightly slab the top of a large log and take some sapwood off.
The further from the center yo get you are creating Rift Sawn material when the growth rings are at 45 deg to the face.
As for the final wedges... there is great turning square stock in them ie" 2-1/4" sq 3-1/4" sq 4-1/4 sq for table legs since they will be nearly perfectly Rift Sawn which fine furniture makers use not flat sawn for square or turned legs.
IF I can ever get my 3-4' dia Sycamores cut down, I'll bring them to you and they will make some phenomenal QS Boards.
Even if a log is too big for the mill, it can be chain-sawn lengthwise into massive quarter sections.
Also boat builders like it for planking the outside of the hull of a wooden boat and also the working deck 👌.
Delightful to watch and listen to. great explanation, you have the perfect voice for a documentary .
In the mill where I worked, when the saw "waved," we called it snaking. A couple of those logs looked like they had a fair amount of compression wood in them. A saw blade will definitely snake through compression wood. Great video!
Definitely I would love to see how a handmade kiln is made I think the show was great and your girls do the word justice
Most of my maple guitar necks I have ordered are quartersawn, great video and narration.
I would love to watch your videos on making a dry kiln, I will be building one this summer. Thank you sir for teaching your daughters about outdoors things, and being a Sawyer. God bless
A plain. Or flat sawn board as it looses or gaines moisture it expands or shrinks across the width of the board. In a quarter sawn board it gains or losses thickness as moisture moves through it .some wood like walnut shrinks very little and is called diminsionly very stable .other species like sycamore are very unstable .here quarter sawing shines plus sycamore has raY flex aka medulary rays .that grain pattern everybody wants when they quarter saw
logs .God bless keep on sawing .
Congratulations on a very clear and concise explanation of the process. Success once again🏆😁. A video following the kiln build would be of great interest to many. 👍
Quarter sawn sycamore is so beautiful. I made many pieces of furniture and cabinets with it.
Probably the best looking grain in our species available in the north east.
Kiln yes please. It's on my wish list as is quarter sawing. At the moment I mill for use on the farm, barn improvements, tractor shed etc but I fear the way this mad world is going I'm going to have to start selling as every penny I can earn becomes more important. Thanks from Wales, your efforts are truly appreciated by this old man.
Best explanation of Quarter sawed I have followed.
Thanks for explaining quarter sawn wood so clearly and with so many examples. Never really understood it before seeing your video.
I found your explanation of quarter sawing really interesting. As an amateur woodworker (making saw dust in my shop) this was very informative.
As a veteran wood floor layer all 1/4 lumber is the best you can install.and quite frankly it's prettier ..and sometimes double the price...great presentation Ladies love your channel!!!
Smile young lady you are doing great........
Very informative a new living in BC, I was interested in the difference between 1/4 sawn grain and vertical grain which is sought after here in BC. Thanks for showing me your technique. Yes an episode or more in building a kiln would be enjoyed by this subscriber.
Your cinematography and editing are mesmerizing and visually lyrical. It is as professional as it gets. If you go to college, please consider filmmaking (producer/director/cinematographer).
I agree. The video is mesmerizing.
I’ll throw in my 2 cents. I would stop the camera aperture down 1-2 stops to get a longer depth of field. Having some defocus is useful, but I think it’s a little severe.
Young lady, You are a natural at the Quarter sawing you take your time and explain things very well. Stay safe and God Bless all of you.
I am a retired self employed cabinet and furniture maker and I used both quarter and rift cut white and red oak on several projects over the years. It is nice to work with. I also used a variety of different curly woods. Cherry can look like puffy clouds when curly. The strangest wood I ever worked with was called bark pocket ash. I don't know if it is a thing or a name that my friends at Cole Hardwoods made up for this ash that came through the yard to be dried. I really like this video. Keep them coming.
Quarter sawn is also used for guitar necks. Dad must be very proud of his entire family. 😊
We liked your explanation of how logs are quarter sawn to obtain fine looking grain in the wood. Your diagrams on the end of the log were very helpful for understanding the quarter-sawn process. Yes, we would like to see videos on the building of your kiln.
Sawing from the bottom makes a lot of sense, and easy to understand. I have a different brand of mill, and I’m not sure that I could keep the dogs low enough, and still hold the log steady. Thx for the video!
Very good video! I never understood the quarter sawing process before. You girls are hard workers! Keep it pure! Keep it simple! 🇺🇸🙏😀
Hi Emerald how are you? It sure is nice of you folks helping out with the family business! My kiddos are too busy doing their thing, to come help ole pops with his hobby business. Quarter sawing is wasteful but like you said it is more stable, stronger, more pleasing to the eye. I don’t cut much hard wood, but I will soon. A huge oak will be coming in for sawing so that should be nice to cut. I usually cut a lot of pine. I had a fella who wanted quarter sawn lumber. 6x6’s, 2x8’s and 2x6’s. The throat on my saw is only 8.5 inches so I cut the bark flitches off, got a square Cant 20 inches. Dropped 6 1/8 made the cut, flipped can’t over cut another 6 1/8. Pulled both off the mill boxed the pith then brought the slabs back on to cut 2x6 a off both side of the slab. This gave me 2 2x6s and a 6x6 quarter sawn. 2x6s almost riff sawn but he was ok due to grain being straight. Cutting his order was a lot of work, I learned a lot about log, slab management and about Proper procedure on how to cut and be productive. Was a good money maker, also got some good fire wood as well. Thanks for sharing take care and God bless you and yours.
I'm a cabinet maker and 1/4 sawed hard wood my favorite especially Oak. Love your Chanel be safe and keep up the good work. 😎🌲
This segment has been an epiphany for me. I'll know what to look for excitedly. Thanks for all your efforts!
Very interesting! I've had a fellow woodworker try to explain quarter sawing to me before, but it never quite made sense. But watching this video made it quite clear.
Thanks.
Oh, and don't forget that some woodworkers want that live edge.
Thanks again!
Some very beautiful boards.
There are some other benefits to quarter sawn and edge grain wood, one of them is flexibility.
When bending a flat grain board for the hull of a boat there is a tendency for the grains to delaminate and split.
Also, edge grain and quarter sawn boards still shrink and expand, but in different directions.
The flat sawn board will warp due to differing expansion along the annular rings because they are different lengths, but experiencing the same rate of expansion.
So, for example, on the heart side a ring might be 1" long and expand 2% of that 1", while on the other side the ring is 10" long and expands 2% of the 10", or 0.02" vs 0.2".
So one side of the board is longer than the other, it either forms a cup ow crown, or splits to relieve the tension.
An edge grain board just gets thicker.
Thanks for showing how ya quarter saw. That was interesting. I have close to 200 acres here in northeast Ohio with 114 acres in woods have been considering buying a wood processor and possibly a portable mill.
Best view of how to do 1/4 sawing on the internet. You guys did fantastic. Yes build a kiln and dry them boards. You would beat Lowe's any day. Can't wait till the next video. Great job.
Great to see your quarter sawn! We don't have much in the way of local family run sawmills in lancashire uk. Would love to see an extended video on the kiln build. Love your videos, keep up the great work, thanks for sharing 👍
Great video. Quarter sawn lumber is what we wood wokers love best. Love your music and the beautiful fall backdrop of the forest is not too shabby either.
Keep up the good work and give your bosses a pat on the back!!
I have an LT40 like yours. I've been quarter sawing for years. Below somebody said to take 3 cuts before you turn the log. This is limited to how well your blade is behaving in a wide cut. Take your first cut 1 board thickness above the pith. Second through the pith, and 3rd one board thickness below the pith. These boards will have to be split down the center to get rid of the pith mess. Also I zero out the kurf and set one of the presets to zero. That way when you hit auto next cut after lifting the blade, it will come very close to the same position as the last cut....ie....1 1/4"
The method of quarter sawing you're using is called Reverse Roll. It maximizes that amount of quarter sawn lumber you get from the log. There are other methods of quarter sawing lumber and there are many youtube videos that show how it's done. Larch trees (or Tamarack in North America) when quarter sawn produce what is known as lace wood.
bwillan,
The method shown here is true quarter sawing. Reverse roll is totally different and involves "rolling" the partial log (usually a half log) through multiple angles in order to keep the blade close to perpendicular to the growth rings.
@@TheOldManAndTheSaw you need the lt-50 or 70 hydraulic uprights to properly reverse roll the log.
It's financially just not worth the effort as customers rarely want to pay extra for it. Especially on those tiny sticks. Wainscot oak and especially lacewood may be worth it but even with through and through sawing you will get enough to satisfy the demand. The lost skill these days seems to be crown cut with the correct taper set. Or mahogany curl.
Quarter sawn explained by you has educated others like myself... well done with the videos....
Wedges could make nice sturdy hiking staffs or perhaps canes. Wonder if there any wood carvers around there? Maybe axe handles or other tools, might be more valuable than firewood.
TFS
I would love to have some small chunks, chips heck even saw dust from that cherry log for my smoker.
Great job explaining quarter sawn! Better then most of all the explanations I’ve heard and seen!
Love your show you and your sister do a great job! Keep it up.
This was a really good video. Can you cut the tree in half and then take a few very large cuts (the width of the tree) first and then do the quarter sawn after? You would have some really wide beautiful full grain boards.
Thanks for this and all your videos. I greatly admire you and your siblings great work ethic and entrepreneurship. What you already have learned about running a business is at least equivalent to an MBA from a prestigious university.
Your videos are awesome, but I wish they were longer. Very enjoyable to watch.
Thanks for this video, very interesting to see exactly how it's done instead of reading about it in a book.
My woodworking skills are good but I don't have any experience using quarter sawn lumber I can appreciate the it's beautiful appearance I really enjoy the process of building and completing a project.
I love watching logs being milled into lumber and I love taking rough sawn lumber to do my part to mill it into usable planks.
I have worked with wood for 30+ years and have been a serious woodworker for about 12 years. I've looked at illustrations of quarter-sawn logs but this is the first time I really understood the process of how it's cut and it's advantages! Thank you very much! I would love a video of the kiln build.
good looking quarter sawn! MUCH nicer lumber. And some of the outer cuts will be rift sawn, which actually are really nice. Rift is really nice for "legs" or other stuff where you can see all 4 sides of a piece. So.... when the boards are rift, maybe wider is good...? (like 8 quarters)
I love quarter sawn hardwood . It's the best . I see it most often when restoring antique furniture of good quality . Your music selection on this video was 👌 excellent ! Thank You so much for sharing it 😊
That was incredibly interesting. I was pretty much unaware of what quarter-sawing was and what it involved. Very well explained. Thank you.
A very high quality video with outstanding production, content and editing. The music is absolutely fabulous, the icing on the cake. Great job!
I really love the grain of the finished board. The extra work was worth the effort. I would love to see a video about the kiln build. I am always interested in learning more.
Girls, it may seem very difficult now, but someday all of this hard work will pay back. The skills you learn doing this work will perfect your lives with the fruits of hard labor. So please carry on. Try to have fun while doing your work safely and efficiently.
Music and narration very nicely done. Kiln? Yes that is great to be seen built. Job well done.
Fantastic video as a journeyman carpenter/ fine woodworker I have built a lot of furniture out of 1/4 sawn White Oak 👍😄
I'm not sure what species of hard wood yall are cutting but the quarter sawed wedges would make awesome musical instrument necks. For guitar and mandolins ect.
beautiful. I'm going to do a quarter sawn oak log on my wood-mizer tomorrow! I'm jealous, keep up the good work. Seeing the Kiln setup would be awesome.
That lumber makes beautiful furniture! Great video and you girls are awesome! Some good workers that (Boss/Dad) has! 👍 have a good week.
From Northwestern Vermont
Yes i wanna see the kiln build. I'll watch every video you make available. I'm addicted!
just finished quarter sawing an oak for a door. can definitely see the rays you mentioned! really wish i had an amazing machine like that
I am envious of the quartersawn lumber! It's beautiful. Yes please, show us the kiln. Perhaps is stages, or just mush it all up into one.
Fantastic camera work. What a gem.
Another great vidja young lady. Be nice to see y'all building the kiln. Take care and have a blessed week and I'll see you on your next vidja.
When are you gonna start making vidjas?
Never done it! This is a great explanation, we have a radial mill and I thing I would have to end for end each cut. 🤔 Thanks. Show the kiln! Be well folks
Now that was interesting. I hadn't thought of the grain differences before and your quarter sawing made it clear how grain runs change the strength and durability of the wood. Yes, the kiln drying will be interesting, as would be any dry storage for seasoning.
some of my best projects were with quarter sawn oak. I made a hall mirror with cubby holes and a couple of blanket chests. I would like to see the construction of the kiln. Thanks for posting your videos!
one important use of quarter sawn wood is for boat planking.... great video !!
Quarter sawn wood is a beautiful thing. Well done!
That looks like a two thermos coffee job!!! Love your narratives!
Haha, yep that’s what I thought
thanks too you I truly know what quarter saw wood is... thank you for the education... keep up the good work and stay warm... and yes show the kiln build...
It would be cool to see the kiln go up. Thanks for showing it, in advance. Good luck! 👍
Musical instrument makers like quarter sawn wood for its strength and stability. Nice video.
Great video Emerald. All that I should of ... about quarter sawing but didn't ask! Very good demos , drawings and explaining . This is why antique oak furniture can look so special. Your family is such a good example for so many reasons,Thank You !
So that's what quarter sawn means, great explanation. I have heard that term but never knew what it meant, now I do thanks to your wonderful videos.
Keep up with the great videos learning a lot about the wood business! and defiantly show us how much work it takes to build your kiln.
Thanks! I learned something today! I sold furniture for 3 years once. Now I know how they get that pretty grain.
My uncle did mostly quartersawn hardwoods for flooring and moldings. He used a vertical bandsaw which I think made it easier to set up each cut.
Try on the first cut take blade to center cut, then rase blade up one or two thickness of lumber. Saw two or four boards. That will yeald wide quarter sawn boards. Split the remaining half round slabs in half and finish cutting with the flip flop style. You could send the two center cut boards on to the edger or cut 2" of the pith out depending what the boss says.
Please let me know your opinion of my suggestion.
I can't get enough of the beautiful smiles.
Yeah that would probably work!
Would love to see the kiln being built! You guys are amazing! love your videos
Thanks for the lesson I have a new Logosol Pro751B Sawmill and cannot wait to try that. Also, I went to Mr. Tom's site and subscribed! Thank you for the tip a link would have helped me find him sooner though! If you give him another shout out a link is always handy as some of us are not to tech savy. Yes on seeing the kiln built!!!!!!!! Put the boss on someday it would be great hearing him tell how he got into the business and into climbing... Make it your Mom and Dad... I think they are pretty humble but I would love to hear them tell the story and you can edit it so they are happy (or tolerate) the outcome! God bless! ;~D
Yep, want to see the kiln being built and in operation, with details how much energy that takes, and how long to get a dried product.
A video on the kiln build from start to finish would be appreciated. 🇨🇦
Would love to see kiln construction! I worked 30 years in building trades and first time quarter sawing was explained. Thank you!
I knew what quarter sawn wood was but never knew the process, thanks for the information. My son recently started in the same line of business.
You betcha I want to see everything about the building and operation of the kiln! So happy to see you going into quality hardwoods production. Don't forget to add the "second cut" face cuts from your logs that you flat cut. You get beautiful cathedral grain a lot of people love.
Today I was working with some quarter sawn walnut that I have been air drying for 45 years! I much prefer the color tones of air-dried walnut to kiln dried.
Thanks for your videos, you and your family are doing fantastic things!
45 years?! I've got some that's been around for 25 or so. It's as dry as it will ever get. I take it in the house to dry it further. Momma's not happy about that but ...,.