Making a Bochet From Beginning to Drinking!
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- How to Make a Bochet from beginning to drinking. Today we are going to go through the whole process of making a bochet all the way up until we drink it! Bochet's are by far one of my favorite kinds of meads and I hope you all will consider making one for yourself. The process is really easy and I outline it all in this video. I am attaching the steps you need to take and the recipe. This mead took about 75 days from start to drinking. I could of course have waited longer to bottle (and I did for some of the mead) but for the sake of the video I went ahead and bottled it!
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Bochet Recipe:
4 Gallons of Spring Water
8 Pounds of Bocheted Mesquite Honey
4 Pounds of Regular Mesquite Honey
5 Grams of Lalvin D47
Steps to make a Bochet:
1.) Collect your ingredients & sanitize everything
2.) Heat your honey for as long as desired (1 hour normally works for me)
3.) Mix your honey and water together
4.) Add your yeast to the must
5.) Let ferment through the primary fermentation (until bubbling stops) & rack mead into new container.
6.) Let age in that container for however long you desire.
7.) Bottle the mead and enjoy!
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Mead Making is an art that people have enjoyed doing for years. It's something that intermediate to expert people can do and I'm somewhere in between. I've really enjoyed trying to use lots of different flavors in my meads like: Apple, Peach, Mango, Pear, Traditional, Elderberry, Blueberry, Blackberry, Maple Syrup, Apple Pie, Pie, Pumpkin Pie, Cherry, Chocolate, Bochets, Bochet, White Chocolate, Cilantro, Peaches, Melomels, Melomel, Acerglyn, Hydromel, Berries, Berry, Capsicumel, Peppers, Fenugreek. Some of my favorite meads have been the big blueberry mead, apple cinnamon mead, Bochet, OK Bochet, Raspberry Bochet, Mixed Berry Mead, Orange Cream mead, and Peppermint mead. I focus on how to make mead and how to make mead for beginners and hopefully anyone who wants to continue to grow in their mead making. - Навчання та стиль
I like the drum riffs you're inserting.
Thank you! Perks of being a drummer. I can add my own noise in!
Sometimes he uses a Red Bucket Of Sanitization too.
A handy tip. If your honey is still hot and you'd like to add your water, just heat your water before adding. And add slowly in small amounts.
Appreciate the effort put into this video, nice to be able to see the full process in one swoop.
Thank you!
3 teaspoons to 1 tablespoon for future reference. Love the video.
I think you must be the most informative mead UA-camr out there, your videos are terribly interesting, never have I been let down ( so far)
Thank you!
Thanks for outlining the process and completing this video even though it took you quite a bit of time, very much appreciated from a newbie into the mead/beer community!
I’m happy to share!
I use a crockpot for the cooking of the honey. it takes a lot longer, but makes much less mess.
How exactly do you do that? I have an Insta Pot. Can I use that?
Do you set it on low or high, and for how long?
Could you use as pressure cooker and then just let it be your primary fermenter as well?
Apiaries sometimes have what they call burner honey. It is what is separated from the hive caps. They add water and heat the wax to separate everything out.
Oh really? I haven't heard about that but it sounds great!
I have some! I got it for the purpose of trying a mead with a cooked honey before I knew what a bochet was. It’s like a strong tea color with some wonderful toffee notes.
Always love hearing him say "akahol"
It’s my Oklahoma accent coming out!
I made a bochet a few months back. When I put it in secondary I tossed a couple apples and some cinnamon in there. After about 3 sips, it was great
How long did you leave it in secondary?
@@RissaRawks i think it was a couple months.
Never heard of a bochet before. This was a great video. Gonna put it on the list of meads to make. Thanks!
I've done a Bochet, Cyser Bochet, and Mead back sweetened with a Bochet honey. Everything turned out great, I'm not sure you can do anything wrong with it if you follow the basic rules.
That sounds awesome, I totally agree!
That's a good idea to back sweeten with the bocheted honey, rather than fermenting with it.
I guess the foam issue dependes of whether the honey you use is pure or if it has residues therefore making it scum rather than foam. It depends of the source of your honey I suppose.
We just finished the last bottle (i only make gallon size batches) of my 1st bochet i made 2 years ago and it was so good. I have a batch in my cold room that is now a year old which i havent tasted it since bottling. I am looking forward to trying that one too. Thanks for your great videos. I always enjoy them
That sounds awesome!
How can you do that? I've made 10 gallons in the last 6 months (various meads) and I have NONE left!
I love bochets and I really need to do another one. That's one of the things I like about your work, it provides me some inspiration for my next mead. Thanks for the video!
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What a huge effort for this video. This is awesome!!!
Thank you!
Well.
I think it's time to make my own bouchet.
Thank's for the video. :D
These kinds of videos are much more helpful, thanks
Thank you so much for this video!!!
I'm sure I'll watch it a few more times 😊
Thank you for watching!
Hi- Greatly appreciate your content. Very comprehensive in covering all key points. The only area that wasn't explained (or more likely I missed) was what does your ingredients quantities translate to in terms of the size of the carboy that will do the 1st fermentation. The reason I ask is I have two (2), 1 gallon carboys, so want to be sure all the ingredients will fit. It's pretty clear your base recipe here is for quite a bit more. Any guidance on how to properly scale the ingredient quantities down to for 1 gallon carboys would be appreciated- I know... MATH! Thanks again for having such a passion for mead!
I dig it!! I thought I subbed to this already..
I made a bochet last night and stirring did decrease bubbling, I used a metal spoon.
The metal cools it down a bit and does not introduce nucleation points for gas.
Might be worth a try.
Gotta do this next, wasn't sure before if I should. I need more fermenters now!
A new intro!
It was time!
This looks amazing. Definitely need to track down a bochet to try. Will have to make one when I get comfortable making mead.
Thank you so much, I was looking for a step by step proceedure to make one.
I’m happy to help!
Maybe it's time to revisit bochet. The last recipe I used was way too acidic. I like that you mix the bocheted and non-bocheted honey, it sounds more promising.
You definitely should!
I am in the process of making this one right now using Shawn's guava/coffee blossom honey. I hope it is fantastic.
That sounds amazing!
Am one week into my first mead fermentation. It's pretty active over there in the carboy. Already smelling a hint of alcohol.
I’m in exactly the same stage in my first mead 👍🏼
Awesome!!
@@GreenWitch1 Love it!
@@ManMadeMead I'm using your $12 Mead recipe and procedure. Only difference is the yeast -- I'm working with Lalvin QA23.
Fermentation has gone from 12 to 10 bubbles per minute in the past day or two. Still pretty active, and I expect that it will be for a while.
I'm planning to do a hydrometer reading and taste test on July 4th. Depending on the results, I will bottle and continue aging or rack to a secondary fermentation carboy.
Just started my first mead and cyser today. Now the wait...
Love the new intro!! Short and sweet.
Most people would just make this at least three videos for obvious reasons. Thanks for teaching. I've never made or tasted a bochet before but I'm a huge caramel fan so I think I'll like it.
I like the clear fermentation bucket . So I thought yeast needed to be in darkness but I’m guessing not as a clear container is used .
Don't keep it in direct sunlight and you're fine. He has a video on fermenting in sunlight actually idr the results but that's the common thought.
great video
i want one of those fermenters, but given that im only on my second round of brews i think i should wait until im more advanced
I enjoy watching all your videos as I am VERY new to mead making. Thank you for all your helpful tips and advice! I want to try my hand at a bochet. The one question I have is, what size pot did you use to bochet the honey? I have a large pot but I want to make sure it is large enough. The last thing I need is a honey disaster before I even really get this mead started.
I use a large enough one to where it would not boil over! So I had like 6 inches of space above the honey!
Awesome video man. I started my first mead today using your method. But I'm very curious where you get your labels made? Cheers!
I actually have a video about it! ua-cam.com/video/OUEKMnNufF8/v-deo.html
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Great videos Sir. Thank yippy for the content.
Thank you for watching!
I'm gonna cook the honey on an open fire when I do mine.
Looks great! 🍯
I’m doin it now! Dang, it’s hot over this stove 🥵 I’m at the 1/2 hour mark & it’s definitely getting darker!
That's a good thing though!
@@ManMadeMead I made it! I did the little wheel on a paper plate & b4 I could take a picture, my daughter liked it all off 😂
@@GreenWitch1 I mean... that's understandable! It's so good!
I have a 2 gallon pot, how many lbs would be the max to safely bochet
Do it the easy way add water to the hot honey once its under boiling temp, don't let it set in the pot.
If you do that be very careful!
@@ManMadeMead Yes the honey must be all below 90 Celeus, i have a frying thermometer and stir it so its safe.
Temp control is vital too hot an the water flash boils an scatters boiling hot honey every where.
Is there any reason why you'd rack from the conical fermenter into carboys, rather than just pulling the sediment jar? Couldn't you do your primary in the conical, pull the sediment jar, and then do secondary right in that same container? Is there a reason not to do that?
I was wondering this too. I know you don't want to age in it but a month or 2 in secondary I wonder...
Great.
I find that cooling your mead for 3 days in the fridge will take a lot of sediment to the bottom and help clear it up from the gitgo
Yup! Cold crashing is super helpful!
Mad scientist! I love it! Mead is my new hobby, thanks for the info.
Very nice, thanks for this!
Happy to help!
My stove must be super hot. I put it on the smallest burner and turned it down to a 3.5 after it started foaming like yours. After 20min it was so dark I had to remove it from the flame because it was about to burn. After it cooled a little I poured the caramelized honey into the fermenter but it instantly hardened.
At this time I had only added 2/3 of my water so I heated the rest of the water before adding. I then put the fermenter in a warm water bath. The internal temperature was about 105 and I stirred for a good 10min but there were still bits of hardened honey on the bottom. Will the yeast be able to consume hardened sugar?
It took me 30min to get the same color, so I'm assuming my 40% setting was way too intense !
The fermenting vessel does not seem very solid. I was surprised how much it shook when you lightly stirred it with the little spoon.....?
My table is pretty wobbly unfortunately... It's a cheap walmart table haha
Is there a reason you stopped using the Catalyst Fermenter in your later videos?
Hey 3m, have you ever heard of any credible results from testing the amount of non-fermentable sugars present after the bochet process?
I have a 5 Levels of Bocheting video that is probably close to what you're looking for! That will be out eventually!
@@ManMadeMead Looking forward to seeing it. Thanks
Why do you close the butterfly valve to start?
Wait, 14 days fermenting? Did you cold crash or sorbate the mead? I always went a full 30 days. Or until less than one airlock bubble per minute. Am I way off?
The activity in the airlock isn't a good measure if it's still fermenting or not (unless at the start). Take gravity readings and note if there's any change instead. CO2 suspended in the mead can cause bubbling after fermentation is done
The yeast he used, Lalvin D-47 caps off at about 14% ABV. The amount of fermentable sugars from the honey in the bochet he mead was enough to get up to 15.47% ABV. This means that when thee yeast hit that 14%, they could no longer ferment any more sugar. His meads sat in secondary fermentation which was more of an aging thing for this bochet for 2 months
Thanks so much for this video. I have a questions - Would this style of mead do well with "oaking"?
Absolutely! I’ve oaked a bochet before and it was fantastic!
@@ManMadeMead I'm assuming I would add the oak to the secondary. How much did you use for a 5-gallon batch?
Which honey you boil and which honey you put in later???
a tbsp is 3 tsp
Good video dude
Thank you!
I really like your videos, but I have a question from the "metric universe" :)
Are you using a gallon - 3.78 liters or 4.5 liters?
Idk if you answer questions on old videos, but is there a known weight you could boil your honey down to? As initial honey color, and oven temperatures can vary significantly, boiling a certain percentage of weight out of the honey seems like it would have the least room for error compared to timing it, or just going by color.
Do you mean like knowing home much weight has changed? Like starting with 9 lbs and ending with 8?
@@ManMadeMeadYeah, or something to that effect. Pretty much any metric that minimizes the guesswork. As a beginner, I like to follow directions as precisely as possible, so that if something goes wrong, I have a shorter list of possible causes.
I have heard that bochets have more lees than a similar non-bochet due to the carmalization process creating additional undissolvable matter... What are your observations, and thoughts?
They definitely do because some of the foam isn't fermentable. That's why some people scoop it off the mead before it goes into primary fermentation.
did this once outside, the bee swarm after 10 minutes was spooky. i always boil inside now, the screens are still covered in bees
Would you scale this down by 1/4 or 1/5 for a gallon batch?
Correct!
Write a book!
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So, being that you had some residual sugar, does that mean that you have to stabilize it before bottling? Just learning and I'd like to try this one.
If the fermentation stopped with residual sugar, that normally means it's done fermenting. I would honestly still stabilize it just to be sure.
Hey MMM, Or M3 if you'd prefer. Your video states at the beginning that this a recipe for 5 Gallons. Because I'm terrified of details, the top line on the Catalyst fermenter say 5 Gallons or 6 Gallons? I'm trying to check the quantity around the 11min 11:30 point in your video and it's messin with my head man! This is THE next brew I wanna try And I really don't wanna mess it up. Cheers
It can hold up to 6.5 gallons but I wouldn’t fill it that high! Let me know how yours turns out!
@@ManMadeMead So the reading on the Fermenter AFTER you've added all ingredients is 5 gallons?
How long did you let the other bottles age for?
I don't honestly recall!
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Wait. So you do also have a red bucket of sanitization??
What is the container you used to ferment called
I call mine a vessel!
Just tried to do this yesterday, and apparently I really messed up the stovetop process. It only took 30 minutes on 40% heat, at which point the honey was burnt and tasted awful, and a large chunk of it basically solidified into a gross mass of burnt garbage. Do you stir all the time when doing this? I'm not really sure where I went wrong.
I only stir every once in awhile!
@@ManMadeMead Good to know, thanks. I tried again and only kept it on for 26 minutes at a very low simmer, and it seems to have worked out this time.
Thx for the video, I have never tried this & I’m thinking about trying one with oak spirals in aging. When you caramelized the honey, did you continuously stir to avoid scorching or what? Also, I’ve never used nutrients, per se, rather added a gram of dead yeast I killed with boiling water & 2 of 3 batches fermented out dry & another nearly, Have you tried that? Thanks.
I would recommend lightly stirring every once in awhile! I've used some yeast hulls but they aren't as effective as real yeast nutrient!
Can I age in a metal fermenter
Yes you can!
Did you put an stabilizer or clearifier in the mead?
I stabilized but didn't clarify!
Have you noticed a Reduction in fermentablity when you caramelize the sugars?
These meads generally don’t dry out! The caramelized sugar isn’t all fermentable so there is residual sweetness!
@@ManMadeMead Awesome, My son has decided, that he wants to make 2 meads from the Elder Scrolls cookbook that are in the Skyrim Video game to drink the day he turns 21, we are making them this month to be drank at the end of August and I we are considering Bochet on one of them.
One Is Black Briar Mead that adds the following
6 ounces Black berries
2 table Spoons Rose Hips
1/2 teaspoon Cloves
1 Cinnamon Stick
And the other, is the one we are considering Making a Bochet which is Juniper berry Mead.
2 tablespoons Juniper berries
2 teaspoons Yarrow
1 Tablespoon Hibiscus Flower.
Do you thing either of them would be Improved by making it a Bochet?
Just a note about me, I have been doing fermentation for over 20 years, but most of my experience is in beer and wine making on a home brewer level.
@@vance7354 It's cool to see someone else trying the mead recipes in that book, even though it's an old comment. I did the honningbrew recipe, the one with lavender, apple, and ginger, and it was really good
Get a candy thermometer, more accurate way of getting desired color .
Getting ready to do my own bochet. What stage on a candy thermometer are you aiming for? Are you just trying to get it to 230° F?
Confused about the yeast nutrient and energizer here. I thought those were if you had extra sugar?
Nutrient and energizer are for helping your yeast ferment! They don’t add or take away sugar themselves. Use them to provide extra power for your yeast so they can ferment more effectively.
even after you made sure the yeast are done \ dead or no longer active, do you still age with an airlock? or just close it with a cap?
I guess the airlock is always safer in case fermentation is still going on a tiny scale so things wont blow up or crack, but if you age for say - one year...
do you still leave an airlock on it for a year? if not, when would you be switching to a cap?
I leave my airlock on until I bottle, just in case of any more fermentation or degassing!
New intro
Why is my calculated SG so far off from what you measured? I thought 1gal honey in a 5gal batch would be roughly 1.42(1/5) + 1.00(4/5) = 1.085, but that's way lower than reality
Hmm.. I'm honestly not sure! 1 gallon of honey in 4 gallons of water would be 3 pounds of honey per gallon. Which I would estimate to be around 1.090 SG...
Any idea why my bochet process only took 10 minutes? I used 1 lb of Kirkland raw honey and didn't boil it super hard and it only took 10 minutes before it got super dark
Less honey means it bochets faster!
Yeah my first attempt i burned my honey because i was doing a 1 gallon batch 😭
Did you end up using the rest of that last gallon of water?
Nope! The honey takes up the last little bit (if you start in a fermenter larger than your total volume you want you can use the rest of the water.)
Great video!
Is there any acidity or tannin flavor to Bochets?
I would love to make a batch , but worried about balance of flavor
It’s not super acidic or anything, it definitely has some different notes to it! You should definitely just try it!
It’s not super acidic or anything, it definitely has some different notes to it! You should definitely just try it!
@@ManMadeMead I decided to make your recipe yesterday. Only difference I d is was that i smoked the 8 pounds of honey on Hickory for 2 hours before carmelizing it for 1 hour. Got a nice smoky smell to the honey. Hjope it works out
How’s the smoke finish out for you? Sounds divine?
Where can you purchase your Mead?
Unfortunately I don’t sell it!
wait i just noticed your airlock is closed with a cap, is this cap supposed to stay on the airlock??
What do you mean?
Most airlocks I see have a cap, it does not stop airflow but does prevent bugs getting into the water.
Any good place to get cool labels made?
I make my own but there are lots of online resources!
I make my own but there are lots of online resources!
@@ManMadeMead Thanks for the reply. I also enjoy designing in Adobe, but I print it elsewhere. So you print them yourself at home?
I can't see the sense in using a good quality honey if I'm going to boil it. Surely cheapest possible honey is fine.
Boiling it doesn’t take away any of the honey quality. Bad honey quality will still lead to a bad lead. Don’t skimp on honey! That’s like saying I’ll just use ketchup for my spaghetti sauce because theoretically it’s the same thing, right?
WHEN you boil honey you kill all the goodies in it , so you defeat the purpose of useing honey, im 74 and hove been making my own multiple flavoured vinegars - breads- jams- chutneys- bush fruit i use mostly . or grow my own , i made jackfruit wine it is yummy . since i was 11 years old in a country town in nth queensland australia .
You’re right! The Bochet definitely has a different flavor because of the heating but that’s intentional!
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Any thoughts as to adding crystallized ginger to the warming honey?
If you want a ginger flavored mead - that can work!
@@ManMadeMead That would be my hope, just a bit anyways. Have it already on hand just minds crossed my mind. Assuming it would break down In honey. Anyway, great video as always! Thxs.👍🏻