5 MISTAKES in Creating a Champion - Breath of the Wild Lore

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  • @MonsterMaze
    @MonsterMaze  4 роки тому +171

    If you know of any mistakes in the book, let me know, and I might make a part 2 sometime. I hope you all have a great week! This weekend will be Collab time! So I hope you look forward to it.
    - Don

    • @murtymcfly
      @murtymcfly 4 роки тому +10

      Don't touch me, i have a headache

    • @zeldafanboy725
      @zeldafanboy725 4 роки тому

      Edgier Name Pending -sanity not included- Poke 😉

    • @milansubotic7674
      @milansubotic7674 4 роки тому +3

      Of course i do look forward to it

    • @murtymcfly
      @murtymcfly 4 роки тому

      @@zeldafanboy725 o o f

    • @aqua9926
      @aqua9926 4 роки тому +2

      I look foward to it MonsterMaze.

  • @antimatter128
    @antimatter128 4 роки тому +686

    When he said "in no particular order" he meant it. The order went 4, 1, 5, 2, 4(again), then finally 41. Details like this is why I love this channel so much.

    • @MonsterMaze
      @MonsterMaze  4 роки тому +119

      Im glad you cought that haha. Some people were utterly confused

    • @dalehadley3283
      @dalehadley3283 4 роки тому +26

      I was really confused and then I saw this comment,very cheeky Monster Maze

    • @jenniferchough
      @jenniferchough 4 роки тому +37

      @@MonsterMaze kinda wish it was 42 as a nod to the answer to everything in the universe :-)

    • @HavocHounds1988
      @HavocHounds1988 4 роки тому +7

      Yeah this is pretty funny. I like little things like that which make you pay attention. I've seen on one of MNB's videos at the bottom during a transition there was text saying something like "what are you doing looking down here anyway?" Always fun to see the extra effort put in to these videos to keep things interesting.

    • @lordganon87
      @lordganon87 4 роки тому +2

      @@MonsterMaze I thought, no way, a video about mistakes, and MM made a mistake about the numbers: a number 4 at the fortune teller (2:40) and againt at For Hateno Border (9:40). :D

  • @normal6483
    @normal6483 4 роки тому +250

    For that last one regarding hylian ruins, it may simply be that they were destroyed by something other than guardians. The guardians would have caused enough damage to society's infrastructure that monsters like Lynels, Hinox, and Moblins would have a much easier time attacking settlements. We even see in Hateno that people are very paranoid of outsiders, indicating that there might be something to be afraid of.

    • @xdsmile5359
      @xdsmile5359 4 роки тому +21

      They were probably scared by the fact that link being naked is just to hot.

    • @warailawildrunner5300
      @warailawildrunner5300 4 роки тому +38

      To add to this, the hylians could have destroyed the villages themselves to get more worked stone to shore up the fortress walls when parts of it were destroyed, or used the stone to build hatano up later on and remaining further away from the guardians they did not know were completely dead...

    • @CypressConroy
      @CypressConroy 4 роки тому +3

      Robin The jedi yes

    • @dan5936
      @dan5936 4 роки тому +13

      It's also possible that these structures were used as building materials, or simply left to rot after the calamity as they were no longer useful with the drop in population Hyrule suffered. Especially if they were structures related to the military in some fashion, there may have just not been anyone left that cared about them enough that could maintain them in any capacity.

    • @ΆγγελοςΑλεξάνδρου-κ9ρ
      @ΆγγελοςΑλεξάνδρου-κ9ρ 4 роки тому +2

      flying guardians came destroyed and left so

  • @sorrynousername7736
    @sorrynousername7736 4 роки тому +403

    Nobody can erase that picture of link. It is in our heads forever

    • @chrispork1443
      @chrispork1443 4 роки тому +52

      Yeah, why did they need to add a drawing of Link as an undressed Ken doll?

    • @heroofangst
      @heroofangst 4 роки тому +3

      Ikr

    • @nathandioza7821
      @nathandioza7821 4 роки тому +2

      Hey...😅
      It could be worse...😅😰
      *They could all be nude...😰*

    • @nathandioza7821
      @nathandioza7821 4 роки тому +4

      @@chrispork1443 Maybe.... uh.....
      Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh...😳😰

    • @chrispork1443
      @chrispork1443 4 роки тому +2

      @@nathandioza7821
      Dude!
      What is wrong with you?

  • @Thundertron55
    @Thundertron55 4 роки тому +180

    I totally agree with the last one. Naked Link was a mistake.

    • @Mat-hr1dg
      @Mat-hr1dg 4 роки тому +22

      Naked Link? No, that's a non issue.
      A Cuccoless Link? Yes! That was a big mistake!

    • @rangopistacho6928
      @rangopistacho6928 4 роки тому +2

      If nintendo were to show his actual "cuckoo" they would be sewed

    • @zeonmoo192
      @zeonmoo192 4 роки тому +2

      @@rangopistacho6928 they showed Mario's, why not Link's?

    • @speinz9430
      @speinz9430 4 роки тому +3

      The anatomy just looks wrong and even if it was right it would still be the most cursed thing. You guys know exactly what I mean.

    • @wallace9045
      @wallace9045 3 роки тому +2

      "Get it... away from me"

  • @angelo8606
    @angelo8606 4 роки тому +161

    For the last mistake, about the destroyed buildings east of fort Hateno, it's possible that they were destroyed several years after the Great Calamity. In Robbie's diary he mentions that there were still some guardians near fort Hateno 50 years (I think) after the Calamity.
    The guardian on top of the tech lab could be one of the guardians who came too close to Hateno.
    - - - EDIT - - -
    A year later I come back here by accident, but now I can correct myself.
    The buildings I mentioned have a unique architectural style. Different from the usual Hylian stone buildings found in Central Hyrule. This style is rather uncommon among all the ruins in the kingdom.
    In addition to the ones east of Fort Hateno we find this style of ruin in Ash Swamp, on the Great Plateau in the Forest of Spirits, at the entrance of the Lost Woods, in Samasa Plain, on Eventide Island and in the Ranch Ruins (remember this one).
    These ruins are all in extremely bad shape and, unlike other styles of Hylian ruins, there are never any remnants of furniture in them. I don't think these buildings were destroyed after the Calamity or even during it. I think these ruins are older than all the other Hylian ruins. They were destroyed before the Calamity.
    So these ruins are old, but how old? Well there's actually one instance of furniture remaining in this style of ruins: the Ranch Ruins. This place was the only building in this style to be inhabited 100 years ago and it seems to date back to Ocarina of Time.
    I'm not saying all of these buildings are this old but they all predate the more modern Hylian style of buildings found in Central Hyrule. Aside from the Ranch Ruins the oldest might be the ones on the Great Plateau, there's almost nothing left of them and they are now hidden in the forest.
    Also the thing I said about Guardians around Fort Hateno 50 years after the Calamity is probably false because I think it was only said in Creating a Champion (if it's only in the book and isn't from developper's note it has a good chance of being false)

    • @MonsterMaze
      @MonsterMaze  4 роки тому +40

      Hmm that could be the case. Still strange that no dead guardians are lying around in East Neculda. Unless they cleaned them up. But yeah, it could be explained.

    • @angelo8606
      @angelo8606 4 роки тому +16

      @@MonsterMaze Or the other possible explanation is that they were already destroyed and the maps on the book are wrong. The buildings style is not the same in this area than in other modern Hylian ruins. And in the memory of the battle of fort Hateno the ruins with the same style in Blatchery plain are already very destroyed when it's just the first day of the Calamity.
      But I don't believe this explanation. And the locations in the memories weren't remade as they were 100 years ago to save time, probably.

    • @InfernalNiek
      @InfernalNiek 4 роки тому +21

      It could also be that the guardians did get stopped at fort Hateno, but that some of the Bokoblins and Moblins did still manage to get through and destroy the 2 (what are now) ruins, since at both places (and in the forest near Hateno village it self) you can find them hanging around. This could've happened right as the calamity was going on or a few years after, when the people of Hateno thought they were save(er) and slightly let their guard down just in time for a Boko/Moblin attack to happen.

    • @angelo8606
      @angelo8606 4 роки тому +8

      @@InfernalNiek That's a good point, but I don't think bokoblins and moblins could cause so much destruction

    • @InfernalNiek
      @InfernalNiek 4 роки тому +12

      @@angelo8606 When you defeat certain camps the treasure chests can hold bomb/fire/lighting/ice arrows and especially the bomb arrows could cause quite a lot of destruction.

  • @tepigie
    @tepigie 4 роки тому +377

    That bonus at the end was DEFINITELY a mistake. Not because it doesn't line up with the lore, it's just.. a mistake.

    • @coledewey3564
      @coledewey3564 4 роки тому +69

      Yeah, why is Link naked? What happened to his dangly parts? Where are those Din damned battle scars Link allegedly has from the Calamity that should exist!? And where in the Dark World have his nipples been for the past three years?! Why does Mario have a pair in his shirtless outfit in Odyssey and Link doesn’t!? How did his earrings and hair band survive 100 years surrounded by a liquid without rusting or otherwise aging? Why is the picture more muscular than his in game model? And most importantly, where did the shorts come from, how did they survive the 100 years submerged under a fluid, and does he have more than one pair of them?

    • @UltimateTobi
      @UltimateTobi 4 роки тому +21

      There was something missing.

    • @maggier4806
      @maggier4806 4 роки тому +29

      Why does he only have two toes

    • @AarturoSc
      @AarturoSc 4 роки тому +23

      But it doesn't line up with lore, because, you see, Link actually can reproduce.

    • @skele8961
      @skele8961 4 роки тому +31

      @@coledewey3564
      "What happened to his dangly parts?"
      yeah, he's missing his master sword

  • @alexale665
    @alexale665 4 роки тому +307

    Video: “Here are five mistakes/inconsistencies”
    Mere seconds later: “Number 4”

    • @MonsterMaze
      @MonsterMaze  4 роки тому +141

      Well, I did say right before: "In no particular order" ;)

    • @chandlerpchumsworth
      @chandlerpchumsworth 4 роки тому +5

      @@MonsterMaze lol

    • @murtymcfly
      @murtymcfly 4 роки тому +9

      @@MonsterMaze "lets just roll with it"

    • @Broockle
      @Broockle 4 роки тому +12

      Weren't there 2 number 4?

    • @alexale665
      @alexale665 4 роки тому +1

      Monster Maze lo o o o o o ol trueee.

  • @toschiworlds7212
    @toschiworlds7212 4 роки тому +192

    They really couldn't have put at least some underwear on Link in that last one, could they?

    • @ezekielmcclure5673
      @ezekielmcclure5673 4 роки тому +42

      Or they could've just given him his sword

    • @alivent7902
      @alivent7902 4 роки тому +8

      Ezekiel McClure
      No
      Please no

    • @ReformUKFarageTrump2024
      @ReformUKFarageTrump2024 4 роки тому +3

      Haha

    • @fordgt5383
      @fordgt5383 3 роки тому +5

      I wouln't mind seeing link with his shlong out, it's just that his body overall looks so... weird

    • @nintendo_pirate
      @nintendo_pirate 3 роки тому +1

      just skip to page 179 and there you go

  • @xxluggixx2559
    @xxluggixx2559 4 роки тому +86

    The lake Illumeni village could have been inhabited by non-hylians. I could imagine a little Rito settlement really well. The ruins look hylian but we also see the other races live in hylian made houses in tarry town. This theory may seem unlikely to you. It's only my explanation.

    • @rhettmitchell
      @rhettmitchell 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah I was thinking the same

    • @MonsterMaze
      @MonsterMaze  4 роки тому +24

      Hey, any speculation is always welcome ^^. And of course that could always be the case. There are some other ruins that are also not listed, like the little cabin up in the mountains near South Lomei labyrynth. Although that one I could actually see being destroyed pre-calamity given the weather conditions up there.

    • @alivent7902
      @alivent7902 4 роки тому +3

      Yeah, mabye even it was a group of yiga/gerudo who decided to move north of the highlands and expand

    • @novastar3990
      @novastar3990 4 роки тому +1

      Oh yeah!

    • @pinto5012
      @pinto5012 4 роки тому +7

      Maybe Lake Illumeni was a fishing pond business location and not a small settlement?

  • @robertmuggeridge4736
    @robertmuggeridge4736 4 роки тому +35

    The final mistake before the 'bonus' mistake could be explained by a general drop in population. These always felt like watch houses or barracks ruins. If the majority of the soldiers in necluda were summoned to defend fort Hateno these would have been abandoned. Then when most of the soldiers and men died in the defence before the miracle there would.be no one to return to man these structures, overtime the abandoned buildings fell into disrepair and collapsed or were damaged by moblins and bokoblins who took to using the structures as shelter.

  • @sheepaleepz
    @sheepaleepz 4 роки тому +42

    Your reaction to the picture of link got a laugh from me omg. That picture is,,,, haunting lmao. Although I've always wondered. Robbie says that you have a ton of scars from the calamity but we never,,, actually see any of them??? I've always found that odd haha

    • @MonsterMaze
      @MonsterMaze  4 роки тому +12

      Yeah, Link should have been pretty banged up. Even after his restoration sleep. He looks in pretty pristine condition to me haha.

    • @DogsRNice
      @DogsRNice 2 роки тому

      Maybe his goggles show it somehow

  • @treypabody5697
    @treypabody5697 4 роки тому +30

    41: this picture is a mistake. GET IT AWAY FROM ME
    I agree completely

  • @ScanBar
    @ScanBar 4 роки тому +67

    I agree with the extra mistake in the end, they could have at least added a manhood!

    • @MonsterMaze
      @MonsterMaze  4 роки тому +27

      Exactly!

    • @jdurk
      @jdurk 4 роки тому +41

      First they take his friends, then they take his memory, now they take his manhood!

    • @simonorourke4465
      @simonorourke4465 3 роки тому +6

      After all if they can have accurate depictions of male genitalia in animal crossing, then they can surely have it in a legend of zelda art book lol.

    • @jdurk
      @jdurk 3 роки тому +3

      @@simonorourke4465 wait what 😳

    • @simonorourke4465
      @simonorourke4465 3 роки тому +10

      @@jdurk it's not on the characters but on the artwork you get for the museum, specifically the statue of David which has everything on full display, the vitruvian man drawing and the discobolus of Myron statue. It always makes me laugh that animal crossing of all things contains Nintendo's first foray in to depicting full frontal male nudity lol.

  • @AaronTsuii
    @AaronTsuii 4 роки тому +38

    On a serious note I think people just straight moved to Hateno after the Calamity because those two settlements were too close to the Fort Hateno border, maybe they felt unsafe or something

    • @MonsterMaze
      @MonsterMaze  4 роки тому +6

      I would definitely feel unsafe, especially knowing there are still live one walking around out there :O

  • @ryancunningham2404
    @ryancunningham2404 4 роки тому +170

    Waiting for your “The Day of the calamity” video

    • @arowyn.m
      @arowyn.m 4 роки тому +7

      Same

    • @allcbrosx5930
      @allcbrosx5930 4 роки тому +9

      Same here but I wouldn’t rush it Bc than it won’t be as amazing quality as all of his videos

    • @CarlosAlon
      @CarlosAlon 4 роки тому +1

      I support the motion with all violence, just kidding, but yes I'm excited

    • @miaswapp
      @miaswapp 4 роки тому +1

      Everyone is

    • @bobboberts4888
      @bobboberts4888 4 роки тому

      At least he stays on track with his promises
      *looks at Zeltik and the temple theory videos*

  • @alexale665
    @alexale665 4 роки тому +36

    Literally lmao at the Red Sox “Football” team joke. Absolutely beautiful

  • @Ninjaananas
    @Ninjaananas 4 роки тому +25

    Maybe there was one loose guardian that got there, wreaked havoc and then went somewhere else or sinked into a body of water.

    • @MonsterMaze
      @MonsterMaze  4 роки тому +4

      That could be possible. Im sure there are plenty of theories that can be constructed to explain it. It's just that the game nor the book makes it clear.

  • @mrcombustiblelemon2902
    @mrcombustiblelemon2902 4 роки тому +6

    The lake illumeni ruins also have a potential explanation: the book lists HYLIAN settlements. Lake illumeni might've been a Gerudo settlement, for brave vai to rest in on their way to search for a voe, or perhaps for the stoneworkers who made the heroine statues (although that seems less likely, given the ancient nature of the 8 statues.)

  • @chrispork1443
    @chrispork1443 4 роки тому +15

    Yeah, I don’t believe the Queen was the fortune teller. I believe the fortune teller was a Sheikah. (Or possibly a Yiga setting up Hyrule for disaster if they knew Ganon would take control of the ancient technology.) The other mistakes listed are likely typos in the book or in the case of the ruins of East Necluda, just copy and pasted lazy world design. Also, wasn’t the Lanayru Promenade already in some state of ruin before Calamity struck?

    • @MonsterMaze
      @MonsterMaze  4 роки тому

      Well, on page 397 the promenade is listed under "Places of worship destroyed by the calamity". It's in the box at the bottom of the page.

  • @HyruleGamer
    @HyruleGamer 4 роки тому +12

    I have the edition with the glass Spirit Orb and LOVE it so much, it's very high quality! Speaking of which, so is this video my friend, great work as always and very surprised at a couple of these. Super interesting 😄

    • @TigersCheerios
      @TigersCheerios 4 роки тому

      Are you actually Hyrule Gamer. Can't be too careful nowadays lol.

    • @lordecramox7394
      @lordecramox7394 4 роки тому +2

      @@TigersCheerios He is. You can just click on his name and it will take you to his channel.

    • @MonsterMaze
      @MonsterMaze  4 роки тому

      Thanks man! And I envy you for having the limited edition! I don't even own the physical one yet. Planning on ordering one soon though. Cheers!

    • @TigersCheerios
      @TigersCheerios 4 роки тому

      @@lordecramox7394 Yeah I didn't know if there was a way to fake it.

    • @HyruleGamer
      @HyruleGamer 4 роки тому +1

      @@TigersCheerios Yes, at least I think I am real haha

  • @jasono120
    @jasono120 4 роки тому +10

    4 really isn’t a huge stretch. When we see the memories of King and Princess his words and actions towards her are of a royal nature, disregarding her personal nature being his daughter. Even in his journal he states that if her next visit to the springs fail, he will speak to her more kindly.
    It would be no different than identifying Link as “Mr Hero”, “Hero of Legend”, etc.
    When the Queen is acting in the role of fortune teller, she isn’t acting as Queen, Mother, Wife...
    I suspect there may be something in the original Japanese that is common but that’s just a suspicion!

  • @milansubotic7674
    @milansubotic7674 4 роки тому +81

    Its so wierd to see someone other than me not know a thing about American sports

    • @lemondando6444
      @lemondando6444 4 роки тому +16

      I still don't know why they call what ever they are playing 'football'. ITS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THING

    • @exzyyd392
      @exzyyd392 4 роки тому +23

      @@lemondando6444 Because otherwise it would be called *HAND EGG*

    • @toschiworlds7212
      @toschiworlds7212 4 роки тому +15

      @@exzyyd392 Don't pretend that that wouldn't be a million times funnier.

    • @ahypixelnon266
      @ahypixelnon266 4 роки тому +9

      I’m American and I don’t even understand sports lol!

    • @r_i_e_n_a1471
      @r_i_e_n_a1471 4 роки тому +4

      Majority of the people in world are not from USA 😂 I don't understand any of their customs or sports either😅

  • @momsaccount4033
    @momsaccount4033 4 роки тому +16

    Lol, all of the numbers are labeled mistakenly. Props for staying dedicated to your video's theme!~

  • @murtymcfly
    @murtymcfly 4 роки тому +42

    Let's rejoice! Another upload from the content machine!

  • @CZsWorld
    @CZsWorld Рік тому +2

    The last one is a BIG mistake

    • @balalugaaa
      @balalugaaa Рік тому

      I agree with this comment.

  • @Legend_Zone
    @Legend_Zone 4 роки тому +4

    That last one (before 41, lol) is the only one that I think miiiight be plausible, since that style of architecture seems to predate the other ruins that were destroyed, but if that's the case then I suppose the map would be wrong. Other than that little nitpick, these all seem to be very valid mistakes/misconceptions! Good work!

  • @michjavanvliet7349
    @michjavanvliet7349 4 роки тому +2

    I love the small bits of humour in the video, it isn't all serious content like other theory/lore kind of creators.

    • @MonsterMaze
      @MonsterMaze  4 роки тому

      It's a fantasy game at the end of the day so... might as well keep it light-hearted at times, right? ^^

  • @TSFCaesar
    @TSFCaesar 4 роки тому +8

    That Link image is CURSED!!!

  • @darkblade722
    @darkblade722 4 роки тому +7

    I don't know why, but whenever one of the numbers appeared, I kept having flashbacks to the Law and Order intro.

  • @jenniferchough
    @jenniferchough 4 роки тому +4

    Let it be known that I have that image of Link covered up with a big Post-it Note so I don't have to inadvertently see it when I look through the book every so often. That post-it note has saved me numerous times.

  • @gray.wesley
    @gray.wesley 4 роки тому +6

    I think the most disturbing part of that picture of naked Link, is that he has two toes. Eugh.

  • @jenniferchough
    @jenniferchough 4 роки тому +2

    An explanation I can offer for the ruins that aren’t listed or seem out of place could be that, after, the initial attack as the Calamity came to being, we know that monsters not only proliferated but also became more emboldened to attack. So perhaps some of those ruins were a result from a bokoblin/moblin/lizalfos etc raiding party. We’ve seen in-game that they have access to bombs arrows and could very well cause that level of destruction if there were a number of them. Some monsters could have taken over, pillaged, then stayed (such as the area in front of Fort Hateno or the archery camp right outside Hateno village) or they could have moved on to burn/destroy other settlements over the century. Just throwing it out there. 😬

  • @kintaro1851
    @kintaro1851 4 роки тому +6

    I could imagine another explanation for the destroyed hylian ruins behind the walls of Fort Hateno. The ground was shaking during Ganons appearance, as we can see during a memory. Maybe the buildings were destroyed because of that earthquake.

    • @MonsterMaze
      @MonsterMaze  4 роки тому +3

      I've seen a couple of good theories out there. And this is also a nice one. I hope nobody was inside when it collapsed though :O

    • @kintaro1851
      @kintaro1851 4 роки тому +1

      @@MonsterMaze That's probably hard to determine now. Any remains of the inhabitants could have been removed in the last 100 years. But I could imagine something different. Notice how near one of the destroyed buildings, there is a "training ground" for horseback archery, while also being located at a point any enemy must pass to reach Hateno Village. And the other one is, if I saw that correctly on the map here, on a cliff, which gives a great look over the valley below. Maybe they were garrisons and the soldiers left to defend the fort. But when the soldiers returned, the buildings, or what was left of them, were overrun by Bokoblins and Moblins, making a return impossible. So they maybe fled to Hateno, to save at least the people there. Just a theory though. But at least their position has potentially great strategic value.

  • @mrsylar91
    @mrsylar91 4 роки тому +1

    I've often thought that Lake Illumeni Village should have been named. There are a few unnamed villages scattered about Hyrule including one east of Trilby Plain and another west of Outskirt Stable on a hill.
    Surely one or two Guardians got through to Hateno. The village survived the Age of Burning Fields. Plus where did the Tech Lab source its Guardian Stalker pieces? They may have been brought from the Royal Ancient Lab (Ruins) or perhaps from a stray Guardian or two that managed to get past or around Hateno Fort.

  • @otterbells
    @otterbells 4 роки тому +3

    Considering that the Adventure Log in the original Japanese version of the game was written in Link's 1st Person POV, it wouldn't surprise me if there was a lot of stuff changed or even lost from localization of the Master Works book that we don't know about.

  • @Jan12700
    @Jan12700 4 роки тому +9

    0:10 The German version is called Master Works too

    • @MonsterMaze
      @MonsterMaze  4 роки тому +6

      Don't you mean: Meisterwerke? ;)

    • @Jan12700
      @Jan12700 4 роки тому +4

      @@MonsterMaze *Meisterwerk
      "Meisterwerke" would be plural

    • @MonsterMaze
      @MonsterMaze  4 роки тому +1

      @@Jan12700 Ah, got it. Dutch it would be Meesterwerken

  • @TheThreeFatFish
    @TheThreeFatFish 4 роки тому +1

    About the ruins beyond fort hateno, it is possible that they were abandoned in fear after the calamity, as it is mentioned that there were still guardians in the area afterwards, dealt with by Robbie when he was testing the ancient arrows, and without a constant presence keeping watch at the fort (it looks pretty untouched since the battle), people would think of the area unsafe. Since the ruins are now home to camps of violent monsters, it is also possible that their level of ruin was caused by them. Ok, this has plenty of holes in it, now that I look back, but I'm too far in to give up, like I'm sure most theory videos work. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

  • @cocogateau1990
    @cocogateau1990 4 роки тому +2

    Well, considering the "mistake" about the two ruins east of Fort Hateno, I have a theory. I think it's obvious they were destroyed by Guardians, considering the visual consistency of damage with that of other ruins, so it wasn't already in ruins, or destroyed by other monsters, as one might expect, considering some of these ruins house Moblins and Bokoblins. But, at the same time, we know the map of destruction by the Guardians is probably incomplete, since it didn't include Lanayru Promenade, which seems to have been severely damaged by Guardians.
    Considering the fact that this location is rather close to the north of the two unexplained ruins, one might think that maybe one or more Guardians made it through to the South at this point, attacked those two ruins and then moved on, since they're no longer there in the present, neither broken nor active. Chasing some fleeing survivors, maybe?
    One might of course say the terrain is too steep for Guardians to move through there, especially back and forth (unless they then attacked Fort Hateno from the rear, either before or after the Miracle, but then we would probably see it or them on the eastern side of the Fort's wall, where there are no Guardians, unless they were pushed back beyond the wall, or their remains moved after they were destroyed but before Zelda sealed Calamity Ganon), but then, let's not forget that it might have been an aerial assault by Guardian Skywatchers, who might for example have tracked down some survivors coming from somewhere else, destroyed the buildings, and the moved on, maybe to attack Fort Hateno, maybe somewhere else (considering their airborne nature, they might have moved as far as Akkala Citadel or the eastern Akkala islands such as Tingle island). It becomes much more logical to explain their absence and the seemingly random damage behind the defensive line of the Fort if it was done by skyborne enemies, whose movements can't be tracked accurately, even less so 100 years after.
    Another theory might also be that after the Miracle at Fort Hateno, once Link and Zelda were no longer there to hold the line, the surviving soldiers and civilians might have retreated from the damaged Fort, either to consolidate their positions at Hateno village, or because they couldn't hold the Fort anymore, or because Zelda's intervention made them believe the Guardians were all destroyed (since almost all the ones close to the Fort were actually destroyed), and thus making them decide to fall back to rest and care for the dead and wounded. A stray Guardian might have used the opportunity to get past the undefended (or lightly defended) Fort Hateno, and attacked the buildings, before leaving or being driven back. If you think about it, there is one single decayed Guardian just outside the walls of Fort Hateno. Why did this one survive, this close to the place where Zelda's power manifested and destroyed all the others?
    Maybe it wasn't there at that time. It could have arrived later, attacked the buildings east of the Fort, and then been driven back and partially destroyed by the defenders of Hateno, which would explain the destruction and the presence of that particular Guardian.

  • @nikdenik02
    @nikdenik02 4 роки тому +3

    If the promenade was indeed destroyed after the Calamity, I don't think the guardians did it. The place is very old, and without the proper care that hylians must have had for it, it's very likely that time itself destroyed the promenade. Also, there are no guardians to be seen in it. Just regular monsters

  • @AerosfilisOfficial
    @AerosfilisOfficial 4 роки тому +2

    I feel like this is a lost case for the first point
    Book not written by the team directly, based of the English translation of the book, but also based on the game translation.
    Although we can assume the game is more accurate as it's direct translation over a book made by a third party to begin with, it's also not new that game translation from Japanese can sometime lack some important details, especially when it comes to how characters address each others.
    I could be totally wrong as I have no idea what the original Japanese says. I'm sure the devs kept it vague in the original text as well so we probably still can't tell who the fortune teller is, but maybe the original Japanese is vague in the fact it could be the queen as well, or not.

  • @VayuoftheForest
    @VayuoftheForest 4 роки тому

    That sad book at the end, got me right there.
    I love your videos

  • @kabalow
    @kabalow 4 роки тому +1

    I was rlly excited to see that we had some of the same trains of thought haha. Especially the ruins pasts Fort Hateno and the not-actually-zonai ruins. I don't have the book myself but I have seen a good bit of it.
    Also the bonus mistake made me belly laugh thanks for that

    • @MonsterMaze
      @MonsterMaze  4 роки тому +1

      Glad I could get a chuckle out of you ^^

  • @geki5345
    @geki5345 4 роки тому +3

    My lord that picture of link is cursed... Great video tho!

  • @BURNi3BURNs
    @BURNi3BURNs 4 роки тому +1

    Love the vid...
    I want to suggest why some ruins may exist near Hateno village. Minions! Guardians may not have breached the fort... but what about Bokoblins and such?
    Another possibility, Hylians destroyed the small settlements for its materials to reinforce their defenses.
    Idk, just a thought.

  • @gasket1752
    @gasket1752 4 роки тому +2

    Was Spider's Nest really affected by the Guardians? I don't remember any Guardians there. And I think the reason it's not on the map besides it possibly not being affected by them is because it's a valley that gets entered from Kakariko and Kakariko wasn't affected by the Guardians in any severe quantity

  • @azadalamiq
    @azadalamiq 4 роки тому +2

    for the ruins, who is to say they where destroyed? disuse can cause decay, you would be shocked how quickly decay can set it to a building no longer in use. there was an old shopping store on a corner of main street it was closed for about 50 years and was so badly decayed that they had to tear the building down.

    • @MonsterMaze
      @MonsterMaze  4 роки тому

      If we are talking thousands of years... maybe. Or if we are talking about our own modern arhitecture, yes they would collapse in 100 years. Bricks are brittle. And appartment buildings collapse because the reinforced concrete expands from within and cracks due to exposure to moisture. But medieval architecture like the one we see in botw, with thick walls and no use of concrete, was built to last. There are castles standing to this day, built thousands of years ago which were unkept for enourmous amounts of time. 100 years is nothing to those kinds of structures, since it's all made from huge and solid rock.

  • @91mariet
    @91mariet 4 роки тому

    Hey! I found your channel on my home page earlier today and found myself bingewatching your videos. Your editing is insanely good and you absolutely got me with the rickroll 😂 Subscribed!

  • @CephlaSR
    @CephlaSR 4 роки тому +8

    Sitting on my bed with the book in front of me while watching this video: what fun!

  • @shawtylilbaddie7458
    @shawtylilbaddie7458 4 роки тому +1

    There were some other mistakes on the map of hylian settlements before the calamity I noticed, one house near suma sahma shrine, some houses is rabella wetlands and hanu pond, there are some ruined buildings inside of lake akkalla and the ruins in toto lake

  • @mindsight9732
    @mindsight9732 4 роки тому +2

    I'd hold on judgement on the Fortune/teller queen until we have a translation from Japanese in-game text, your right, but you may not have the whole picture either, I mean Link actually writes his own quest entries. Spiders Nest could have easily been damaged in the previous calamity and lacks destroyed Guardians as well as it is damaged in cutscenes. It's a bit of fallicy to assume there must have been no damage in the previous calamity.

  • @Jasonwolf1495
    @Jasonwolf1495 4 роки тому +1

    i mean with the hateno forts it wouldn't be too crazy that they were abandoned and its just the march of time that made them collapse. I mean the guardians stopped at the fort, and after they seem to just patrol the same areas, so back up from those points so you dont accidentally attract a guardian.

  • @justdenks
    @justdenks 4 роки тому +2

    The ruins past fort Hateno could have been a warning from the Yiga Clan because maybe they thought Hateno Village was Kakariko, I wouldn't put it past Kohga to make that mistake.

  • @TheNyleve16
    @TheNyleve16 4 роки тому +2

    11:24 There is a possibility that Hateno Village was actually part of the Yiga clan and that they were the ones who attcked those villages

  • @literallywhy6162
    @literallywhy6162 4 роки тому +2

    “Get it. away from me.” Killed me 🤣

  • @ThePurpleSquirrelsGamer
    @ThePurpleSquirrelsGamer 4 роки тому +2

    I really enjoyed this keep it up ;) (Also your right that link picture was a HUGE mistake)

  • @botwbestgame1364
    @botwbestgame1364 4 роки тому +21

    road to 22k

  • @puline397
    @puline397 4 роки тому +1

    This is a very good video:) but this game has so many more mistakes. And i think you aren't wrong, that the game designers were wrong, because they just randomly put ruins wherever they saw fit and later they forgot to check if they made sense to be there. (i mean, just because they are designers or this is an official game, doesn't mean it doesn't have errors)
    In any case, i don't have Creating a Champion and i somehow haven't seen those pages with these escape routes, and was wondering if they could be somewhere, but... they don't really change anything. In the game there are many mistakes with the whole evacuation and 'Zelda's Journey', and in this book they are there as well. i can't believe people can read those pages without noticing them.
    ah, no matter, thanks for the video! :)

  • @RebekahAntis
    @RebekahAntis 4 роки тому

    I’ve been reading this book for the past week looking for inconsistencies. Thank you for this compilation! It’s hard to know what’s canon in-universe for Zelda.

  • @zeldamaniac163
    @zeldamaniac163 4 роки тому

    I'm shoked by the amount of searching it took to find these tiny inconsistencies in the book. Props to you brother.
    Can't wait for your Calamity video :)

  • @mildlycornfield
    @mildlycornfield 4 роки тому +2

    Naked Ken doll Link is forever burnt into our brains... **shudder**

  • @HerMi.T
    @HerMi.T 3 роки тому +1

    Actually it is possible that those ruins are because of monsters like mobiln or wizzrobes because we see many times that wizzrobes destroy many settlement like that. For example the settlement near illumeni lake is actually destroy by wizzrobes. And a settlement near death mountain is also destroyed like that. So I think those monsters which inhabited that ruins are actually destroyed by them.

  • @teebrown27
    @teebrown27 4 роки тому

    Great video.
    It took my way too long to figure out what you were doing with the numbering of the errors...

  • @MrJmZack
    @MrJmZack 4 роки тому

    The last one isn't modern Hylian, but they are older. They were already standing as ruins in Ash Plains in the cutscene. There are several of that style in Hyrule, and all a different style than modern Hylian stone or wood buildings. They even exist inside of the Lost Woods.

  • @aslambertthe3rd830
    @aslambertthe3rd830 4 роки тому +1

    I didn't count, but I'm gonna trust you did 5. The numbering totally threw me off. Great video btw, I've wanted to get this book for a while but have never gotten around to it.

    • @MonsterMaze
      @MonsterMaze  4 роки тому

      Same here. Im planning on ordering a physical copy very soon. Im tired of using the digital version. It doesn't feel "official". Im a zelda theorist damnit. I need to step up my game

  • @AaronTsuii
    @AaronTsuii 4 роки тому +5

    That Link picture is cursed

  • @PinkIceFox
    @PinkIceFox 3 роки тому +1

    okay I was not expecting that picture of Link. I have no knowledge of the book's contents so that caught me by surprise and I just choked as I was drinking some water. Holy shit.

  • @AS-vi5xh
    @AS-vi5xh 4 роки тому +13

    I haven’t watched the video yet but I know it will be amazing!

  • @r_i_e_n_a1471
    @r_i_e_n_a1471 4 роки тому

    I've dreamt of buying this book but never just got to it😍 I'm a bit surprised of mistaking Hylian ruins to be zonai ones 😬 their styles are so different!!!! and that poor forgotten settlement! I've explored every nook and cranny in the game but I had completely forgotten about that lake area too. .. Bcz there's not rly anything there despite being a beautiful area!
    Funny mistakes, AND VERY GOOD VIDEO!! I'm tearing up at that final Link picture.... How could you mess him up that badly I DIDNT WANNA SEE THAT 😂😂😂

  • @Aka60thChip
    @Aka60thChip 3 роки тому

    Even though age of calamity is out and we have more info on some these. Even prior we probably should have considered that monsters cause a lot of damage to ruined sites. The guardians were the main focus to defend against but monsters still inhabited every inch of hyrule and under Ganons command. So could be possible that monsters already had formations prior to the guardians popping up at hyrule castle

  • @supergoo_
    @supergoo_ 4 роки тому +3

    Very creative way of counting though

  • @Random1567
    @Random1567 4 роки тому +2

    Eh, it’s possible Zelda and the King just didn’t want to write down who the fortune teller was, even in personal writing. Just in case anyone were to read it someday. Maybe to protect her. Or it’s a retcon..but then again, even the wording states it as just a possible theory or rumor. Which would match with the king and Zelda not naming the queen as the fortune teller. Maybe the kingdom would think the King biased or the queen crazy and they wasted to avoid that and never refer to her as the fortune teller...anywhere. All speculation still. But either way, I wouldn’t say it’s a mistake and hard to say if it’s a retcon either, as it’s possible but has some things going against it..but not necessarily concrete contradictions, and either way it was always presented as just a possibility and not a fact within the book itself

  • @saladoc
    @saladoc 4 роки тому +2

    Oh, it's cool that now you are going to talk more about the lore, by the way, besides this video, I have an observation of where in the timeline breath of the wild is in, for me it's in the downfall timeline, and I have 2 main points why.
    1 Ganondorf appears in the trailer, and it looks like an ancient ganondorf, wich to me it means that it's the original ocarina ganondorf that defeated link, and acording to what we seen so far, when ganondorf gets impaled by the master sword (wind waker, twilight princess) the human form disapears and only ganon remains, it really is the only one remaining.
    2 This is more important, this is the ONLY zelda game that has a RESURECTION SHRINE for the hero, so what does that mean, they built it because they know now that the hero can be defeated and get killed, so yeah, to me this gives strong points in my opinion to say that it's most likely in the downfall timeline.

    • @MonsterMaze
      @MonsterMaze  4 роки тому +1

      Thats a pretty nice theory. People are really going back and forth on the timeline placement, since there's so many references to all 3 branches. It's hard to seperate easter eggs and homages from actual hints

    • @saladoc
      @saladoc 4 роки тому

      @@MonsterMaze And if you notice, it's the only zelda where is not only link and zelda that are going to defeat ganon, they have lots of back ups plans, the champions, the divine beasts, the guardians, it's liike they don't trust in the hero winning by itself like in the other games, by the way, if you find it interesting for a video or something like that, you can take the topic, I'm not a youtuber or something like that, in fact it would be great if the theory enters the zelda community.

  • @heroofangst
    @heroofangst 4 роки тому +1

    Was it a mistake when it said that link retrieved the master sword at 12-13?
    Or is that true?

  • @PHO3N1X_28
    @PHO3N1X_28 4 роки тому

    Monster maze: mentions zonai
    Nbc: so you have chosen death

  • @Spartsou
    @Spartsou 4 роки тому +1

    Monster Maze: There's no way King Rohm would reference his wife in such a way
    Me: Plot Twist: His Wife concealed her identity while giving the prophecy. ;)

  • @paulshwuarta9528
    @paulshwuarta9528 3 роки тому

    11:10 aren’t there guardian husks at the Hateno Tech Lab? Perhaps some guardians where able to make it past but were taken care of and sent to Purah for research.

  • @Wolffman109
    @Wolffman109 2 роки тому +1

    2:08 Don't worry: I don't follow sports, either.

  • @sortadecentgaming2348
    @sortadecentgaming2348 4 роки тому

    I suspect that monsters also got their share of destroying things during the Calamity, and that while the guardians were stopped at Fort Hateno, monsters may have destroyed some additional, smaller settlements beyond that point. A larger city like Hateno Village itself would have had better defenses.

  • @mohamedkiyumi3429
    @mohamedkiyumi3429 4 роки тому +1

    now whenever I hear the words cursed images naked link immediately pops up in my head.

  • @tylerherr4288
    @tylerherr4288 4 роки тому +1

    4: unless she told them while in disguise (why? idk but its possible)
    1: the promenade wasnt an area where people lived. it was ancient ruins before the calamity hit. why make an area as ruined if it was already ruins before
    5: i wonder how many people in this day and age live off the grid and isnt counted in any sort of census
    2: nah i cant defend this one lol
    4: just cause ruins are ruins doesnt mean they were destroyed by guardians
    41: lmao i agree wholeheartedly
    ps: what is up with your numbering system lol

  • @Markenny2001
    @Markenny2001 4 роки тому

    "get it away from me" lol great delivery of that line

  • @blbprime11
    @blbprime11 Рік тому

    My OCD brain twitched every time a new number showed up.
    Congratulations on a well-done troll. Lol

  • @limitbreakplusultra7551
    @limitbreakplusultra7551 4 роки тому

    Some ruins in Hyrule could've come from an outside invasion from a different force shortly after the calamity right? Perhaps that explains a few of these mistakes. (Or maybe this map is HUGE and keeping track of every small settlement and it's architecture and origins is too much to expect from anyone.)

  • @farhaanj4330
    @farhaanj4330 4 роки тому +1

    Couple of things. For the ruins in Hateno, it is possible that a Moblin(s)/bokoblins destroyed it. One may say that Moblins can't destroy structures in the game, but neither can guardians (excluding cutscenes). You can make a guardian fire 10 times at a rotting hut, but no damage will be done to the hut. As well, something I want to mention. So there are multiple inaccuracies in the book. There are, however, some things the book tells us that we have no way of proving whether they are right or wrong (ex. it shows King Rhoam's gravestone). Should those things be taken as canon? Should we take them with a grain of salt? (I hope I used that term correctly)

    • @MonsterMaze
      @MonsterMaze  4 роки тому

      There are indeed multiple explanations which could explain the ruin's state and location. Its just a shame the game nor the book makes it very clear. I was kind of frustrated by this while researching my Calamity Video, since I want to get as close as I can to the actual truth.
      King Rhoam's grave can actually be proven without the book, by digging into the game files. The model for the rock pileis named "FLDOBJ_KINGSTOMB_A_01". I do agree with you that some things are hard to prove wrong or right because of absence of evidence. The book was meant to be a compliment to the game's story. So unless it flat out clashes with the in-game info, Im pretty content with accepting it as canon.

  • @frontofthesoapless5445
    @frontofthesoapless5445 4 роки тому

    Spidersnest looks ancient, and it is bottled up by kakariko against guardian attacks.
    How do you know Illumeni was settled by Hylians? It is probably a mistake, yes.
    But it could have been a base for gerudos that passed the mountains, or even the yiga.
    You have great access to Hemaars decent, the cliffs of ruvara and vatorsa snowfield.
    A little bit north of illumeni you even can encouter a yiga searching for the (secret) way to gerudo.
    The ruins beyond hateno-fortress always seemed like moblin occupied, aka destroyed by moblins who found ways through the mountains, the one at firly plateau is right at two mountain passes. It could have been done by hinox as well, there is a large group in the area.
    The ruins in the samasa plains are outside the guardian destruction as well, but occupied by lizalfos.

  • @captaincompound5703
    @captaincompound5703 4 роки тому +5

    Loved the "no particular order" 🤣

  • @blackwingred3473
    @blackwingred3473 4 роки тому

    "Go... Redsox?" Man you crack me up. You just made a life-long viewer out of me

  • @thebocce5741
    @thebocce5741 4 роки тому +2

    "Spider's Nest"
    _Deepnest flashbacks_

    • @Elinthian
      @Elinthian 4 роки тому +1

      Hahaha too true😂

  • @braydenleaderofthetirkins1143
    @braydenleaderofthetirkins1143 4 роки тому

    Maybe the ruins outside of Hateno were abandoned after the Calamity, and were unattended to. I don't know what reason this would be the case, but it's one theory off the top of my head that has potential to be plausible, if only a small bit.

  • @ikhlasulamal7077
    @ikhlasulamal7077 4 роки тому

    It also quite possible no one knows the fortune teller identity. And the only source they got was from the queen, as in the queen talking about a 'fortune teller' told her about a prophecy and everyone didn't question her because it's the queen.
    Note that the story telling section of the book was made as if it was written by a person who lives in the Hyrule at that time, like a royal historian or scribbler(?).
    Sorry for my bad English.

  • @user-cl2uv3hv4x
    @user-cl2uv3hv4x 4 роки тому

    I’ve never even noticed this ! thank you and great video ❤️

  • @perry9872
    @perry9872 4 роки тому

    I burst out laughing at the bonus mistake ! They really did Link WRONG... Giving him the Ken look... LinKen... I'll see myself out.
    Apart from that, amazing video as always, Monster Maze ! :)

  • @Joe-ik1ph
    @Joe-ik1ph 4 роки тому

    I think you are right about the fortune teller. The only way it could have been the Queen would be if she was plagued by nightmares and then someone interpreted them like in the Bible story of Joseph. For Lanayru Promenade, I don't think the map is wrong. It looks the same in the memories before the Calamity as it does 100 years after it. I think Creating a Champion was wrong to say that it was destroyed by the Calamity. It would be weird if Kakariko Village was almost surrounded by Guardians but didn't fall. If the promenade did fall during the Calamity, it would have been by monsters. The same could be said for the two ruins between Fort Hateno and Hateno Village.

  • @MrKirby365
    @MrKirby365 2 роки тому

    I know there are no current verdians in those areas and this is really out there but maybe the guardians were coming in from the back as well and they did destroy those areas it would mean that the guardians had to move on opposed to have just crashing there.

  • @alexmiotke8016
    @alexmiotke8016 4 роки тому

    Spiders nest I'm pretty sure is not destroyed by guardians or the calamity. The architecture hints to it being much older and do we ever see any battles there? I might have missed a dead gaurdian there but I'm pretty sure I've never seen one.

  • @taleyajoinson4703
    @taleyajoinson4703 3 роки тому

    re: Hateno ruins: Very simple explanation. Like the fort itself, the buildings were largely abandoned and fell to ruin after the calamity. A greatly reduced population grouped in smaller villages afterwards.

  • @ajnatea7495
    @ajnatea7495 3 роки тому

    Absolutely agree with that last one bro!!!

  • @benjaminthomas8428
    @benjaminthomas8428 4 роки тому

    An answer to the lake llumeni problem could be that it wasn't settled by Hylians, Gerudo or Zora maybe?

  • @mmb-ig7iq
    @mmb-ig7iq 3 роки тому

    With Age of Calamity out, it looks like those villages past Fort Hateno could've been ravaged by the raids of the monsters even though Guardians didnt make it through, considering that those areas still have monsters residing there in BOTW.