Why Allardyce quit Bolton | League of Legends | Astro SuperSport
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Big Sam opened up about how his relationship ended with Bolton during his successful stint at the club.
The former England manager was speaking to Adam Carruthers in an episode of League of Legends, on Astro SuperSport in Malaysia.
WOW! Never heard this story before, but my god, those owners should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.
Gartside wanted easy money and Eddie Davies tax exemption kitty was making too much , both gobshites
well they were pretty bad they bankrupted us as well
As a Bolton fan this is heartbreaking. Every fan knew what was happening, horrible to watch. This man would be welcome back with open arms.
@@Abdi774 its genuine agony
@@Abdi774 if we win against morecambe if we lose well be stuck in 4th
As a bolton fan and I’m sure with every bolton fan it’s hurts to hear this to point of tears.
Sure togetherness and great heights may never be achieved again by everyone in one club with BWFC at heart....
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Excellent manager who gets a lot of unjustified criticism from the fans and media alike. A lot of clubs would be lucky to have him as their boss.
A. Fox It was a disaster when he was there, which is why he left lol
As an Everton fan it was painful... But I really liked his Bolton sides they were a horrible team to play back in the day
No they would not mate!
This man is a moron ! Really Greedy man !
Worst mistake Bolton made. Look at them now
No, look at them NOW!
As a bolton fan i agree as soon as big sam went it was freefall
@@ciaranriley5028 i agree, we're in league two now
@JM #7 RACING such a shame what happened. I don’t like seeing that happen to any football club. Unless it’s city!! 🤣🤣🤣
@@Matthew-bu7fg least were back out of league 2 now🤣
I like Sam he's so down to earth , the media paints him in a terrible light ,
That Bolton team had some world class players put together for very little 💰 always a good watch .
Well done on not bothering to ask who the three players were that he wanted to sign.
Why ask? They would've been 6'5 plus, technically shocking and could head the ball. That's all that sam ever wanted.
@@recruitmentch Have you not seen Jay-Jay Okocha and Youri Djorkaeff play football?
@@stantastic4866 Youri was 34 by the time he went to Bolton.
@@recruitmentch His age is irrelevant. The point is Allardyce didn't just sign big technically poor players.
@@stantastic4866 Only because he was on a free. His career at the top was finishing / finished. The likes of him, Jardel, Campo etc ending up at Bolton for a final hurrah. That was 5 years before the period Sam is on about.
Hell of a bloke proper English man. 🏴
Whatever you think of Big Sam as a person, it must be said that he did a great job at Bolton, shame that the board didn't match his own ambition about taking Bolton into the Champions League. Bolton away was one of the toughest places to go to for any big club back in the mid 2000s.
He did an incredible job at Bolton. In most football clubs the hierarchy are only interested in lining their own pockets rather then taking a club to the next level, Arsenal is a classic example of that, such a shame for the massive football club they are that their fans see little success because of their greedy owners.
Newcastle are in a much worse position with Mike Ashley, the clubs record transfer fee is still Michael Owen from 2005 who they signed for £16M.
But the CL is money for the owners.
Football is a business like anything else who does something to lose money...
Haha "We don't want to be in the Champion's League"!!! Well Bolton certainly aren't in the Champion's league now.
@ShiftCtrl85 bollox... Bolton financial problems now come from what they spent under allardyce and Bolton have never been and never will be anything other than a small club
@@MrAshtute small club? Four time f.a Cup winners, founder members snd highsrt ever recorded attendance in the world and world cup winners in your team ain't small is it?
@@MrAbigail5 yes when your talking about your clubs major honours being an attendance and the fact a player played in a world cup team... That makes you miniscule not just small.... Apologies... I should have said teeny weeny club.
And what allardyce "achieved" there laid the foundations for your club to be penniless and almost completely out of existence.
Hey you can take him back as your manager anytime and good luck to you but as a man and a manager he's shite and an embarrassment to his employers and their fans.
He can't even not drink before matches and respect a club by doing interviews without being half pissed.
@@MrAshtute tbf if they did make Champions League the TV money would have poured into the club easily
@@felixsoheili1154 there wasn't as much money in it for clubs back then...and now after All your owners pouring 100's of millions into the club where are you?
Almost out of existence at least 3 times..no longer own your stadium (or anything else) and still got debts that could send you under anytime.
My point is that allardyce left you ruined financially (your owner said when he left that you couldn't afford him and his ideas anymore)....the man spent fortunes at smaller clubs and then left them in tons of debt with big contracts to pay for years to come.
Look at him at West brom now...moaning they didn't spend enough....that's all he ever does...like I said look at Bolton after allardyce left...Sunderland after allardyce left.. Newcastle he wasn't there long enough....West ham (he left them skint) and Everton (he left them with a load of shite players on huge contracts.
He's useless as a manager and his team's suck the joy out of watching football...it's about time he was put out the game permanently and I think West brom will do that at the end of the season (hopefully)
Sam sums our board up perfectly
To think the ones after we’re even worse!
Enjoy listening to him, I think it’s underrated, in his day Bolton were a great great side, one of the true Premiership great teams
Vacuum Boots BJM are the best
Owen Alexander Smith yeah man 👍
read it all in his autobiography not long ago , well worth a read , more to sam than meets the eye a shame really he’s never managed a champions league side would be interesting to see what he could do
wildebest could be lad could be, you should read his book if your interested in that kind of thing! all i know is he’s a proper footballing man with probably the most experienced non active manager in the country right now, and mostly does well, with what he has to work with.
Brilliant manager, revolutionised the English game in many ways. At the same time, he reminds me of Mike Bassett in some ways too!
Still remember Big Sam at Bolton with his wireless headphone eating his burger! Great manager! #lfcfan #bigsam
This stings watching this as a Bolton fan. I miss them days
Lack of ambition from the board, it's Bolton's enduring legacy. Same sort of mismanagement ruined the club during the 70's and 80's.
And is ruining us again now!
His Bolton was immense!
as a villa fan I know personally when Randy lerner bought the club in August 2006 Allerdyce contacted him to say he wanted the managers job at the villa and sent him powerpoints showing his achievements and what he could do to the club, he did the samething around the same time to England as well, so lets be honest he was touting himself about before he left Bolton in 2007.
As a Fulham supporter, I remember well the old Burnden Park, Tony Philliskirk ripping us a new one as Bolton were storming away with the 3rd tier division. We came up together from the 2nd tier as well. From that to where he got them, he was 100% right. No hesitation. Resignation time - the ultimate "i've taken the club as far as I can - and they don't want to go any further anyway!"
i know a lot of people dont like his style of football. but as a man, he is one of a kind. brutally honest, not scared to tell it how it really is. need more people like big sam in football
Not his biggest fan but what happened to him with England was a stitch up.
T.G Martinez How was it? He was caught out trying to sell a way round third party ownership. He was esentially telling other people how to cheat the very organisation that he was there to represent. All for a tidy profit. I'd be genuinely interested to know how you think it's a stitch up.
He stitched himself up. I hope nobody gives him a job, after Everton got rid of him. He's an idiot.
@@jamesw3546 he explained how it could be done....he didn't actually do anything wrong..otherwise he would have been charged. The stitch up came cause he thought he was talking to a lifelong friend .
@@gaywest4298 if everton hadn't of got sam in they would have gone down...and they eneded up top half...dont think thats an idiot
trillywinkle dinkle
Depends what you class as wrong I guess. For me, when you're England manager you shouldn't be out boozing it up with businessmen who want you to teach them how to break FA rules on third party ownership in exchange for speaking at their events for £400,000. It's just dodgy as hell and clearly a pretty big ethical issue in my opinion. He thought he was speaking to someone from a (fake) sports management agency according to the report. His friend put them all in touch with each other that's all. Hell, if he'd not been so greedy and arrogant and had just Googled the name of the agency and the people he was meeting he would have realised they weren't genuine and could very well still be England manager now. He saw the £££'s and shafted himself.
As a Bolton fan would love to know who those 3 players were
Was just thinking same thing pal
He's never failed as a manager, despite nearly always taking over teams in crisis - brilliant manager
Now we're stuck with Southgate
The same southgate that lead england to the world cup semifinals?
What a helmet you are
I take it this is sarcasm?
At least I'm not the only one seeing the crap in Southgate. Big Sam would have taken the BEST English players too the world cup and also not rely on the same players in every squad. I'm still confused to why Pickford started every game. People will point out that England got to yhe semi finals. England should have reached the final with how the games turned out.... But Southgate is gonna bring football home 😂👍
+Raheem: What was your favorite victory? Tunisia, Pnama or Sweden? Lol......
Absolute legend Big Sam.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Love big sam 👍👍
He should come back to Bolton as director of football ..
We love you big Sam! Come back haha
5th in the league still, we only signed little dave Thompson on loan from Portsmouth with a dodgy knee.. Gta love big Sam 😂😂😂
In an alternate universe, the england side under Allardyce, go all the way to the world cup final in russia with an unimpressive, dogged, predominantly route one but effective style of play with Harry Maguire, the side's second most efficient attacking outlet behind Kane, and with a galvanized Townsend and Walcott crossing into the box.
Following this, Allardyce is heralded as the new "special one", knighted and is in line to replace Allegri at Juventus....
🤔
We were an established Premier league club beating the top 4 regularly. I was absolutely gutted when Sam left 😢.
Such a shame we would have defo done it if he stayed but he didn’t get enough support from the board.
wonder if he’ll go back to bolton now ? could be quite interesting
I think if Bolton backed big Sam he would of been a legend and make Bolton champions league winners.
There is another rumour why he left. How true that was, looking at him, but meh, whatever.
I like Allardyce.
Thanks for the content
Proved himself so well at Newcastle
Nobody proves themselves well there.
The beginning of Bolton’s downward spiral.
If they got in the CL there would have been massive pressure to sign expensive players. They were too worried about doing a Leeds.
He did things at Bolton behind the scenes that arsenal later copied and it became a standard for all elite teams. Dietitians, video analysis of all games, diagnostics of player physical and biological performances etc. He did a lot.
Lol. The diet , video analysis etc wenger started way before him. Sam definitely did show the importance of winnimg the ball. Was a good manager? Definitely. But lets not over blow it
And how have they done since...?
I know I’ve commented on this late but are the owners alright? They are in league 2 now cause of that decision in my opinion
Eddie Davies (owner when Big Sam was there) was in hundreds of millions in debt, he cared about the club and to save it he sold it to conman ken Anderson in 2016 who took 500k out the club and ran us into the dirt to make a profit, which unfortunately he was successful in, he’s the reason we are where we are not Eddie Davies. In 2018 before Eddie Davies died he made sure all Bolton’s debts were paid and now. We have new owners now so hopefully we can start making our way back to the prem or at the very least championship
Is the full interview posted anywhere?
Oh how things would've been if they just said yes
wow...
worst thing we ever did
In a way, this was what happened at West Ham. He had six months left on his deal, West Ham were top four and the fans were finally onside. A couple of extra players would've freshened the side up. Instead, the board refused to invest and everything fell apart.
All Sam's limitations and all the failings of his reign came back all at once. Not just long ball football but ineffective football. Bad substitutions which lost games. First half of that season, West Ham seized the initiative and strangled the opposition but, in the second half, they'd surrender the initiative at 60 minutes and concede a number of late goals. Everybody blames everything now but the two obvious reasons; the board had fallen out with him and didn't want to give him a new contract, and Sam giving up.
Think about that when people say West Ham fans hounded him out of the club.
I’ve seen our club accounts we made a profit every season fat Sam was manager. Every season since we have made a loss.
"We don't want Champions League footbal!"??? Who was we? And who decided? The owner?
I'll have a pint of wine please
Love to know the 3 players names
England’s greatest manager
ask Blackburn & West Ham if they would take him back? as a West Ham fan of 20yrs he produced football I never want to see again, its all about direct balls and winning the 2nd balls and playing the percentages, its horrendous to watch and takes out any creative flow out of the game, a win would some times feel like a loss under him. He does bring dicipline, give him credit, but any team planning on having Sam as their long term manager must have no interest in football or have no budget.
Allardyce. Such a hot daddy
Sounds like it was poor judgement from Eddie Davies but you can’t begrudge him, he nearly bankrupted himself the amount he money he put in over the years.
wth is "we don't want Champions League"
It's all gravy!
he made it sound like bringing forward next years money is no big deal but really it is should things go bad the following year
As opposed to not spending the money and enjoying the success they're having now...
@@paulleach3612 different issue, just pointing out it wasn't a minor request like he pretended it to be, he'd have likely wanted signings the following year too so what he's really saying is he wanted more money, which everyone does.
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Probably the biggest fuck up in the clubs history not giving him the money. Worst bit about it couple months later they give Sammy Lee & Megson 10 million + to buy players...
why didnt Sam just ask his dog for the money to sign the players?
Cho toi hoi gia xam ban gia bao nhieu mot hu vay ma mot hu bao nhieu vien
I know mate, I've been saying it for donkeys years.
I never particularly liked his "football" but great manager in a results business
That whole bung saga was straight entrapment, obviously wrong but you have to be sick in the head to create a false situation with the sole intent of ruining someone's life
Well we owed 100 million when he left
I'd rather be a ping pong championship club
Spent far to much on wages
Agree
How silly,hope he told the players how ambitious they were.
lack of ambition from chairman and owner probably thought it was the safe option and now 2nd bottom in the championship and cant afford to pay the players :(
Then the Bolton fans booed him when he went there with Newcastle.
A classic money over the fans situation from the owner. Greedy gets.
Had Okocha and nakata in midfield but played long ball football.......
That Bolton team was actually really good to watch. I was a big football fan at that time. You're just going along with herd theory. Sam allowed the skillful star players like Okocha to do their thing. He gave them freedom to express themselves, and built a solid base around them. They mixed it up. They didn't always play long ball. They were pragmatic. One of the hardest games for the big teams at that time was going to Bolton.
Completely agree, they maximised their players. Kevin Davies career was in tatters when Sam brought him in and he turned into one of the better strikers in the league and deserved a few more Caps imo.
@@gladtidings7874 cudnt have put it better myself
@@mrman372 lol you ok buddy?
The term “free transfer” is one of the biggest misnomers in football. He spent a fortune on wages at Bolton. That’s why there wasn’t any money for transfers. He left them in a lot of debt. For every Jay Jay Okocha there was a Jardel. Horrible, cynical style of football they played too.
Bolton are a small club though its not a big city
Chelsea isn't a city either?
@@danielbentham758 it's in one of the richest areas on London that has a population of 10 million people
@@rnmusic-gt7zw Greater London has 10 million people? Chelsea has 156,000 thats half the population of Bolton
@@rnmusic-gt7zw point being to be a big club you don't have to be a city
@@rnmusic-gt7zw by your logic I can say Bolton is part of Greater Manchester which has 3 million people
Wow someone called this leagur of legends lol did they not Google it first.
A complete knob we gave him a chance for his management start and just when we where starting to get good he pissed off and did not finsh his job No loyalty just greed for money and he proved that in his past dealings
These comments are hilarious, best manager hahaha
His record speaks for itself. He’s a hero saved so many clubs. I’d go as far to say that he’s up their with one of the best ever Premiership managers
Obviously a good manager on what he does but such an arrogant so and so
He thinks so much of Bolton that he doesn't want to help out ..just line his own pockets
Players should be ashamed nevermind the board. Boohoo too tired to play? One or two games a week bro.you having a laugh
He's talking as if qualifying for the champions league would've been some sort of a formality. Senile and delusional. No wonder they didn't give him the money.
Got to be the worst Manager set his teams up to bore the pants off people, people want to see exciting teams like Liverpool, City and Tottenham, stay away from Football for the good of the Sport!!
he always overperformed with the resources hes had at any club. If you think he could get 11 bolton players to play like tiki taka your delusional
Bolton played some nice football at times. Djorkaeff, Okocha and Campo were terrific footballers and they certainly kept the ball on the floor. There is no shame in defending first and foremost.
At times you are kidding long ball specialists, what has he ever won with any of his teams!!
If you enjoyed watching Bolton play you are a sad man, they were awful to watch, it is an entertainment industry don't forget!!
I get the sense that you are a child who wasn't even old enough to remember watching games back then. If not then you have selective memory, because they played nice football at times. It doesn't have to be tiki-taka to be entertaining.
No one cares
you cared enough to be writeing about it
Deluded big Sam..Champions League..😂😂. Keep on dreaming
So he wanted them to take a financial risk and they wouldn't. The end.
How would he feel if they said they wanted to pay this year's salary next year.
Thing is, that's much more common than you'd think. He was saying that they're going to spend that money in the summer anyway. Spend it now rather than in the summer.
If he was spending the money in the summer anyways surely it was worth a gamble for the huge revenue that champions league would have brought in. Was risk free to an extent
@@jamietohill2465 That's what Peter Ridsdale thought.
@@cockoffgewgle4993 but he asked to spend 6-8 million on 3 players . Wanted his summer budget early. Leeds literally gambled with money they didn't have. It's not the same
@@jamietohill2465 Wanting your Summer budget early is wanting to spend money you don't have..
I always wondered why Sam left in 2007, when Bolton had got a UEFA cup run the following season, this explains it all.
I don't know what people expect of Sam Allardyce, sure he doesn't play an eye catching style of football but at the same time he basically pulled off a FM-esque story out of Bolton and they can even make an anime out of how he bailed Sunderland out of relegation. There's even more to his story than that!
That Sunderland Escape was nothing short of a miracle. That was one of the worst prem sides I have ever seen before he took charge.
@@arsenalfanrichi and also from where he took charge! That's why I made the anime comparison!
underrated manger. Say what you want about his style of football but if i was an owner of a club needing to stay up, Big Sam would be first on the list
@wildebest I don't know about WC finals, but regardless, I just hate how recent football "fans" troll anyone they get the chance to.
Sam Allardyce is a meme yet most fans don't recognize/know the success he's had and the influence of data-driven football that he was a pioneer of at Bolton.
One can meme Emile Heskey all day without acknowledging or even realizing how he was a very good forward in his prime and a very unselfish player throughout his career.
I feel frustrated sometimes at this troll culture where making a mockery of someone is the priority and the the opinions at popular platforms (such as ARSENAL TV) is just ludicrous.
@wildebest fully agree with that kind sir.
At one stage, the club had 4 international captains in the squad. Nigeria, Wales, Japan and Mexico . . .
And Israel
The biggest mistake the club ever made was not backing Sam....and now look at the mess the club is in now.
I'd have Sam back tomorrow. Sad times
If they backed him where Bolton would be in the big time playing European nights under the bright lights
@declangaming24 wouldn't be in league one...
@@ChrisAddis in the PL in Europe
Sam's argument is clear.
Bolton, 14-15 years on from then, ended up in league 2! Wow!!
When Alex Ferguson wins a title Big Sam saves a club
This man is a moron ! Really Greedy man !
that was his best time as a manager and bolton as a club... he should not have left.. even though he was there for 8 years he should have stayed 2 more years IMO.
now you know how Wednesdayites feel with, Chansiri Get rid of him.
He is payed ( sammy) a huge fee were ever he rests his lunch box😮
and they let another Gartside into the club , son as bad as his dad ,
I bet 10% of this story’s true lol
When Sam left that's when I realised we were done. 0 ambition and I'm not fully convinced it's changed. To say "we dont wanna go to the champions league"..what is the point of being in football? As a fan, I personally have just been in a lull ever since, kind of just go with the flow. Evatt is the first manager since Sam to show the same level of ambition , but even so, he can work as hard as he likes and get us back up to that position once again but ultimately for what?
Greatest manager ever arguably
@James Richards well if pep managed Bolton Newcastle Blackburn crystal palace Everton wud he have done any better with those clubs I think not
@@footballbabybaby yes he would've
@wildebest yes he absolutely wud
If u give sam iniesta xavi messi he wins everything
Ya'll so deluded about pep
He finished wayy behind liverpool remember with a great team
@wildebest im the opposite to clueless on football.
Since pep left i do believe they won champions league and la liga plus xavi n iniesta n puyol have retired and not been replaced with same quality
Pep only won league with Munich done nothing in champions league
And finished miles behind liverpool with aguero and debryun
Listen to him...a pint of whine.
Eddie Davies finally realised you and Gartside were ripping him off. Greedy man and no self awareness. So disrespectful to Eddie Davies
One of the greatest English managers without a doubt. We were foolish to get rid of him after all he had done. Top man 👍
WTF - This man is a moron ! Really Greedy man !