Funnels, funnels, funnels. A heavily traveled deer trail in the middle of open hardwoods can mean nothing. But a forced heavily traveled deer trail in a geographical or man made restriction can mean everything. Good video Jeff. One of my favorite spots is a stand 10 steps off a major creek bend with 40-50 yards of timber that’s pinched by a crop field on the opposite side. I access it by creek and never spook any deer.
Great stuff as always.I can picture a new stand set up already.300 yards off the food,and 300 from bedding.1 of the buck I saw in late season showed back up.I have 1 of his sheds.Let the games begin..
You just brought back some deep memories for me. I'm 41 years old and my first job at 15 years old was build those Family Tradition Tree Stands down in Bartow, Florida, working for Damon Furlong. He built that small company into something huge and sold it to the current owner.
Jeff thanks for taking the time to teach us everything about Whitetails I have learned so much from you these past few years!! I hunt so different now and I have had great success taking your advice!! Good Luck from NC!!!
Another great video love it.we can't wait for october.we got a couple target bucks we will go after.but even better our hurd is growing couple small bucks and few does and it's nice that they are actually staying.the land improvements are working and we learned by watching you and Dillion so awesome Jeff can't say thank you anough.
I think the most difficult thing for me to do is it sort through all the info on the channel to make it apply to my hunts. Hunting on Long Island is like nothing else in the country. We are so packed in here that we don't have the kind of land or access choose the proper wind or entry for a hunt. Most places there is one way in and one way out and we are rarely more than 800 yards from a house. Also, there is ALWAYS pressure. You can rarely pass a public property without at least one other hunter there. I definitely think that makes it WAY more important to apply these lessons for not spooking deer. Love the channel and the info!!!
Great content as always. IMO- difference between most of these shots is a fairly intellectual exercise (with a deer caliber rifle). I’d be comfortable with most of those in most situations, but probably sticking with double lung (maybe cheat down toward heart depending on shot difficulty) just to save the most meat. Don’t mind a short blood trail. But as you indicated if I’m on a fence line or something like that where I can’t afford for it to run 30 yards, probably going high shoulder.
great advice for blind placements. Way out here in far west borderland Texas it is a bit different, but the principles are the same I’d say. Terrell County, TX. We definitely try to avoid bedding areas and set up our box blinds along edge type places. But it’s the desert or semi-arid at least and it’s plateau and canyon topography. It’s so much fun to hunt and I love it but I haven’t hunted woods in 20 years so I think I forgot, haha. Anyways yah the principles definitely apply. Edge, avoiding beddings, usually further back in the canyons. Also cougars are further back in canyons too so… yah. 😅 Good luck out there everybody.
Hi Jeff! I had a quick question about bedding areas because it seems wherever we hunt we push out deer. Our property is pretty much a hill top with a flat and then a ridge on both sides. Well we usually hunt the sides deep in the woods and there isn’t much tooography change. Can deer bed in 6-8 different spots per 100 acres and probably 80 of that being woods?
It would be so awesome to have a location like this, foot plots, ditches, bedding areas, multiple stands, water holes all around. How could you fail? Not to mention so many named deer. I have to hunt public lands in SW NH and it's a dog eats dog world. "I want you to be a 5 percenter", come on. Best of luck to everyone.
You can only be a 3 percenter in private land. Also ...LOTS of unpressured public land in NH, and you don't even have to look very hard 😊 Just hunt differently than 97% of all other hunters ... Which is easy to do😉
@@bi7235 100%. Putting in the work is waaaaay harder. I had a private spot with absolute monsters that wouldn't spook if you threw a grenade at them. Unfortunately, the new renters there went crazy the first time they saw us in the stand so we lost that one. No sense crying over it ( well maybe a bit ). Just had to get back to improving my other private spot and those public hitters too!!!
Well there is a lot of behind the scenes work. This man not only does UA-cam but also managing other peoples properties. He does classes for hunters and so much more. Sometimes it sounds easy but I guarantee this man puts in a lot of work and gets very little sleep. This work is what got him to where he is. I can wish all day about getting the success that someone else has but at the end of the day you gotta put in the hard work. I’m lucky enough that I’m surrounded by agg fields. I think 250 acres with some wooded area with a creek that runs through. I have total access to all this land and don’t have to ask for permission to put stands or anything. Problem is I haven’t been putting in the work on my off days which shows each season. I’m not having success hunting this land but I’m trying to turn that around. Again it takes work and it’s up to me to put in that work instead of sitting back and wishing it was just handed to me. lol.
Im not much of a focused WT hunter. Infact i dont stand hunt either. Im an elk guy, but i love your content. Theres lots of nuggets I take from your channel and use elk hunting. Animals are animals and they all have similar habits.
I would love to see a video about the best spots to hunt in area that has no food plots..I live in otario, which has lots of farm land.. but I hunt 500 acres and there is no food sources near, and bedding areas are so random.. how can I plan good hunts in such land?
Hey Jeff, just wondering on your WI lease, how did you get your culitpacker back to the food plots. Did you trailer it out there and then attached to your ATV/UTV or did you just pull it from the city area through the property to your plots? Just curious as my plots are back in the woods and I'd have to pull it through the two tracks to my plots and didn't know if there was an ideal way to do it.
Blinds in the middle of a field or food plot has become the norm here in southern Illinois. Its pretty impressive. Lots of money thrown out there but not many more bug deer on the wall because if it.
Man idk what you’re talking about. Buddy of mine killed a 201” double main beam out of a muddy blind in the middle of a corn field 2 years ago. Obviously that will bother some deer but these deer down here are definitely used to it.
Well SHOOT! I’m hunting one edge of a bedding area. But have walked through/around a lower edge of it and found a saddle going out the backside of the bedding area to another hidden semi ag/orchard area. Getting through is an old logging road which I know from cameras they use at times. It’s pretty clear easy walk and several old hunters have reccomended going this way to this area for bigger bucks. Now I’m toren as whether to try it both sides of the logging road are thick thick.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 you say luck yet he kills at least a 150” every year. A lot of things play into it. In a pressured, less deer dense area your advice in this video would play much more into it.
Recent years I have worked on old guy hunting with bow. No blind, wearing red flannel just sitting still. Totally agree location is key. Learned certain spots deer won't even come close. Don't get me wrong walking behind the barn and shooting deer in bedding area does work. But it's only good for a shot and they won't be back bedding there for a week or so. From the picnic table over looking garden and fruit trees I can watch deer go by all day. As long as I move slow. The deer are not spooked by us because we are out there everyday. Up north where deer never see humans at 300 yards away they are running away when they see a human.
You were in Michigan:correct? Mecosta County: HayMarsh State game area.: how do I find a place that fits your description, that isn’t over run by other hunters?🤷🏿♂️
Hunting where you have multi-acre food plots and water holes (aka man made) as well as the cut lines.. that’s primo private land. Come out on a national forest in the mountains in rifle season (after bow and muzzleloader have taken their sets) where you’re max distance is about 75yrds and find what you’re describing. You won’t find it. It’s all spooked. It’s all pressured. And it’s all crunchy with leaves and trigs.
Hey Charles...check out a portion of my latest big woods national first hunt in PA. My 17th buck in 21 seasons since 1993 out there. Not as much work to hunt the big woods and you don't have to hunt as carefully as you do on highly managed private land (about 5% the time and work), but very rewarding. That's over 30 public land bucks for me on big state and national forest in PA, MI and Ohio, btw 😉
I must just be too dumb to comprehend this and duplicate it. Lots of my current and former places were too small to have multi diverse habitat. Not to mention Oklahoma winds being so switchy swirly. You can pretty much guarantee regardless of wind direction or stand height. They’re gonna pick you out. I look at topo maps and try to copy these strategies and almost every time there’s a complication and not possible. Or you finally get something similar to description and you don’t see crap. Or limited access, only one way to get there without walking upwind of food/bedding.
You can always find food setups no matter what state a whitetail lives in...there is no real conceptual difference from state to state. Defined food sources helps clear the mud. Always remember the "wind swirls" in every state, until you learn that it doesn't 😉
Bought redneck blind based on watching your videos, love it, except it sometimes gets iced up on the inside of the windows. Did you have this issue at all and any suggestions on how to resolve it. Thanks and appreciate all the free content you put out!
Unless your stand is right next to the road, there is no way to approach a stand to not spook deer. In my mind, shortest route is best route - it minimizes scent/sound/and visual opportunities. Of course with some basic rules of dont walk in the center of the field or through where you know deer bed down. In high pressure areas like mine, if deer had this mentality, they'd never go anywhere.
Ive been watching vids forever, I dont have much time to scout ever. I wish i could figure out where the %$%# "bedding areas" are. I get the concept of find food, find bedding, hunt in between and down wind. But no clue how to find the food they'll be eating or where theyre bedding. Also only hunt smaller public land that is super pressured in maryland so that might add to the frustration. I mean it seems in order to kill a good buck, you need to spend 10x the amount of time scounting than actally hunting.
Hi Tony 😊 see you soon! The #1 way to create secure access is by offering (or finding on public land) defined hunting season food sources (non ag). Food then determines access, morning and afternoon stands.
Cornfields? We have plowed, picked fields. Unfortunately you have to be at the level to hunt mature bucks and you only get that way ..by hunting those bucks and being successful, for years. Decades. "Cornfields" - 🤣
You, like many others, have named your deer and watch them year round. Yet you call yourself “hunting”. It’s your business if you raise the deer you shoot. But don’t call what you do “hinting”. You are harvesting There is no sport in what you do. It’s no different than raising chickens or cattle.
Man...you hunt on land on the wrong side of the tracks 😁 seriously tho...lots of stuff hanging on private land in many states no problems. Maybe they know we are serious and will hunt them down? 🤷🏻♂️
To be honest, hunting has now become an industry. I don't believe it's actually about a tradition. Everyone is looking for an angle to make money so they can hunt and get paid at the same time. It's just commercialization of what was considered farm land to now "PRIME HUNTING PROPERTIES!" I really dislike, but people only care about the money, and soon the wealthy will be the only ones that can afford to even by a home. You even get paid to set up people's properties, and I'll bet the working guy can't afford your price. Just being honest, I'm not mad at you.
Hunting was an industry decades ago, always has been always will be. The difference is now folks actually get paid to work in the industry other than a few outdoor writers who rarely actually knew what they were writing about. Now people get paid for what they know and those that don't know much ..don't get paid anymore. It's a very good thing....
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Being honest again! I know we are a capitalist society, and people have to make money. If you are trying to encourage more people to hunt, making it so expensive doesn't help. Some Liberals want to make every property into a sanctuary, and some conservatives want to carve up the land to build condominiums. Driving up the price of land just bc it's prime hunting land isn't right. Jeff, like I said, I like your views on no scent and your strategy to get that big buck, but I didn't start hunting until I was 42 and I liked the peacefulness of sitting on a tree. I own 86 acres that I bought for a reasonable price.The 1100 acres beside me was an atv park, then guys came out of Miami and chopped it up, and now the people can't hunt anymore bc of restrictions. I can't blame anyone for not wanting to be struck by a stray bullet. It boils down to that eventually you'll run out of hunting spots or the rich will put in all under a high fence. A billionaire bought another 1100 acres about 2 miles from me and high fenced with his 15 million dollar mansion. It's JUST A MATTER OF TIME, that the ordinary guys will be fighting over the public land spot if the greedy rich people in congress can't find a way to buy and sell it off to the highest bidder! I'm out!
Funnels, funnels, funnels. A heavily traveled deer trail in the middle of open hardwoods can mean nothing. But a forced heavily traveled deer trail in a geographical or man made restriction can mean everything. Good video Jeff. One of my favorite spots is a stand 10 steps off a major creek bend with 40-50 yards of timber that’s pinched by a crop field on the opposite side. I access it by creek and never spook any deer.
Great stuff as always.I can picture a new stand set up already.300 yards off the food,and 300 from bedding.1 of the buck I saw in late season showed back up.I have 1 of his sheds.Let the games begin..
You just brought back some deep memories for me. I'm 41 years old and my first job at 15 years old was build those Family Tradition Tree Stands down in Bartow, Florida, working for Damon Furlong. He built that small company into something huge and sold it to the current owner.
Thanks as always Jeff.. I learn something useful from every video you have.. Have a great weekend
Thanks a lot JJ...you have a great weekend too! I always appreciate you watching so faithfully
Boom!! My odds are getting better every time I watch for this hunting season. Thanks Jeff and team
Awesome....we love to hear it! Thank you and GOOD LUCK!!
Jeff thanks for taking the time to teach us everything about Whitetails I have learned so much from you these past few years!! I hunt so different now and I have had great success taking your advice!! Good Luck from NC!!!
That's great to hear Josh I really appreciate you watching but most of all that you are having a great time hunting!
Another great video love it.we can't wait for october.we got a couple target bucks we will go after.but even better our hurd is growing couple small bucks and few does and it's nice that they are actually staying.the land improvements are working and we learned by watching you and Dillion so awesome Jeff can't say thank you anough.
Great video Jeff!! I can’t believe how fast the year is going!!!
That is a lot Brian...man it is coming in HOT!
I think the most difficult thing for me to do is it sort through all the info on the channel to make it apply to my hunts. Hunting on Long Island is like nothing else in the country. We are so packed in here that we don't have the kind of land or access choose the proper wind or entry for a hunt. Most places there is one way in and one way out and we are rarely more than 800 yards from a house. Also, there is ALWAYS pressure. You can rarely pass a public property without at least one other hunter there. I definitely think that makes it WAY more important to apply these lessons for not spooking deer. Love the channel and the info!!!
Thanks Jeff, I just set a stand on the edge of ag and bedding. I plan on accessing after the ag field clears in the mornings.
That sounds really good John!
Great content as always. IMO- difference between most of these shots is a fairly intellectual exercise (with a deer caliber rifle). I’d be comfortable with most of those in most situations, but probably sticking with double lung (maybe cheat down toward heart depending on shot difficulty) just to save the most meat. Don’t mind a short blood trail. But as you indicated if I’m on a fence line or something like that where I can’t afford for it to run 30 yards, probably going high shoulder.
Thanks for all the great content Jeff! I’ve learned to much about deer and wildlife habitat!!!
You are very welcome Connor I really appreciate you always watching!
Been watching your videos for years, have learned so much. But I just realized how much you and Fit Finlay look alike! It’s crazy!
Haha 😊
Thanks Jeff
great advice for blind placements. Way out here in far west borderland Texas it is a bit different, but the principles are the same I’d say. Terrell County, TX. We definitely try to avoid bedding areas and set up our box blinds along edge type places. But it’s the desert or semi-arid at least and it’s plateau and canyon topography. It’s so much fun to hunt and I love it but I haven’t hunted woods in 20 years so I think I forgot, haha. Anyways yah the principles definitely apply. Edge, avoiding beddings, usually further back in the canyons. Also cougars are further back in canyons too so… yah. 😅 Good luck out there everybody.
I love this channel.
Thanks a lot Mike we really appreciate you!
Hi Jeff! I had a quick question about bedding areas because it seems wherever we hunt we push out deer. Our property is pretty much a hill top with a flat and then a ridge on both sides. Well we usually hunt the sides deep in the woods and there isn’t much tooography change. Can deer bed in 6-8 different spots per 100 acres and probably 80 of that being woods?
It would be so awesome to have a location like this, foot plots, ditches, bedding areas, multiple stands, water holes all around. How could you fail? Not to mention so many named deer. I have to hunt public lands in SW NH and it's a dog eats dog world. "I want you to be a 5 percenter", come on. Best of luck to everyone.
You can only be a 3 percenter in private land. Also ...LOTS of unpressured public land in NH, and you don't even have to look very hard 😊 Just hunt differently than 97% of all other hunters ... Which is easy to do😉
It’s easier to be envious of someone’s successes than create your own. Take the advice and do your best, that’s life.
I am not envious and I am happy I can hunt at all, but it still would be awesome to have an environment like that.@@bi7235
@@bi7235 100%. Putting in the work is waaaaay harder. I had a private spot with absolute monsters that wouldn't spook if you threw a grenade at them. Unfortunately, the new renters there went crazy the first time they saw us in the stand so we lost that one. No sense crying over it ( well maybe a bit ). Just had to get back to improving my other private spot and those public hitters too!!!
Well there is a lot of behind the scenes work. This man not only does UA-cam but also managing other peoples properties. He does classes for hunters and so much more. Sometimes it sounds easy but I guarantee this man puts in a lot of work and gets very little sleep. This work is what got him to where he is. I can wish all day about getting the success that someone else has but at the end of the day you gotta put in the hard work. I’m lucky enough that I’m surrounded by agg fields. I think 250 acres with some wooded area with a creek that runs through. I have total access to all this land and don’t have to ask for permission to put stands or anything. Problem is I haven’t been putting in the work on my off days which shows each season. I’m not having success hunting this land but I’m trying to turn that around. Again it takes work and it’s up to me to put in that work instead of sitting back and wishing it was just handed to me. lol.
Down wind of a known bedding area great advise
My favorite spot to sit! 😊
Im not much of a focused WT hunter. Infact i dont stand hunt either. Im an elk guy, but i love your content. Theres lots of nuggets I take from your channel and use elk hunting. Animals are animals and they all have similar habits.
Hi Jeff, how much is a land consultation for a small woods? Does cost depend on size of property? And what all is included with consultation? Thanks
I would love to see a video about the best spots to hunt in area that has no food plots..I live in otario, which has lots of farm land.. but I hunt 500 acres and there is no food sources near, and bedding areas are so random.. how can I plan good hunts in such land?
Hey Jeff, just wondering on your WI lease, how did you get your culitpacker back to the food plots. Did you trailer it out there and then attached to your ATV/UTV or did you just pull it from the city area through the property to your plots? Just curious as my plots are back in the woods and I'd have to pull it through the two tracks to my plots and didn't know if there was an ideal way to do it.
I was wondering that myself..
Long way from the road to my spots.
How do you know a bedding area is a bedding area? Are they picking a spot you see them in and staying in it?
Blinds in the middle of a field or food plot has become the norm here in southern Illinois. Its pretty impressive. Lots of money thrown out there but not many more bug deer on the wall because if it.
So true Craig!
Man idk what you’re talking about. Buddy of mine killed a 201” double main beam out of a muddy blind in the middle of a corn field 2 years ago. Obviously that will bother some deer but these deer down here are definitely used to it.
Well SHOOT! I’m hunting one edge of a bedding area. But have walked through/around a lower edge of it and found a saddle going out the backside of the bedding area to another hidden semi ag/orchard area. Getting through is an old logging road which I know from cameras they use at times. It’s pretty clear easy walk and several old hunters have reccomended going this way to this area for bigger bucks. Now I’m toren as whether to try it both sides of the logging road are thick thick.
Every area is different. Buddy of mine killed a 201” double main beam out of a muddy blind in the middle of a cut corn field on a trailer.
Luck is a good thing, too! But if you hunt smart, you create your own luck the majority of the time.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 you say luck yet he kills at least a 150” every year. A lot of things play into it. In a pressured, less deer dense area your advice in this video would play much more into it.
Recent years I have worked on old guy hunting with bow. No blind, wearing red flannel just sitting still. Totally agree location is key. Learned certain spots deer won't even come close. Don't get me wrong walking behind the barn and shooting deer in bedding area does work. But it's only good for a shot and they won't be back bedding there for a week or so. From the picnic table over looking garden and fruit trees I can watch deer go by all day. As long as I move slow. The deer are not spooked by us because we are out there everyday. Up north where deer never see humans at 300 yards away they are running away when they see a human.
You were in Michigan:correct?
Mecosta County: HayMarsh State game area.: how do I find a place that fits your description, that isn’t over run by other hunters?🤷🏿♂️
Hunting where you have multi-acre food plots and water holes (aka man made) as well as the cut lines.. that’s primo private land. Come out on a national forest in the mountains in rifle season (after bow and muzzleloader have taken their sets) where you’re max distance is about 75yrds and find what you’re describing. You won’t find it. It’s all spooked. It’s all pressured. And it’s all crunchy with leaves and trigs.
Hey Charles...check out a portion of my latest big woods national first hunt in PA. My 17th buck in 21 seasons since 1993 out there. Not as much work to hunt the big woods and you don't have to hunt as carefully as you do on highly managed private land (about 5% the time and work), but very rewarding. That's over 30 public land bucks for me on big state and national forest in PA, MI and Ohio, btw 😉
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What stand is that again?
I still to this day have no clue where to hunt on my land. It’s hilly its thick.
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I must just be too dumb to comprehend this and duplicate it. Lots of my current and former places were too small to have multi diverse habitat.
Not to mention Oklahoma winds being so switchy swirly. You can pretty much guarantee regardless of wind direction or stand height. They’re gonna pick you out.
I look at topo maps and try to copy these strategies and almost every time there’s a complication and not possible. Or you finally get something similar to description and you don’t see crap.
Or limited access, only one way to get there without walking upwind of food/bedding.
You can always find food setups no matter what state a whitetail lives in...there is no real conceptual difference from state to state. Defined food sources helps clear the mud.
Always remember the "wind swirls" in every state, until you learn that it doesn't 😉
Bought redneck blind based on watching your videos, love it, except it sometimes gets iced up on the inside of the windows. Did you have this issue at all and any suggestions on how to resolve it. Thanks and appreciate all the free content you put out!
Bro you're supposed to pimp those Redneck's out: Space Heater, Leather Recliners, TV, Full Bar
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It'd be nice to figure out how to put a double pane window in a blind. They sweat so much if you run a heater in them.
Unless your stand is right next to the road, there is no way to approach a stand to not spook deer. In my mind, shortest route is best route - it minimizes scent/sound/and visual opportunities. Of course with some basic rules of dont walk in the center of the field or through where you know deer bed down. In high pressure areas like mine, if deer had this mentality, they'd never go anywhere.
Would a waterfall crossing be a good funnel point?
It sure can be!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 thanks Jeff!
Ive been watching vids forever, I dont have much time to scout ever. I wish i could figure out where the %$%# "bedding areas" are. I get the concept of find food, find bedding, hunt in between and down wind. But no clue how to find the food they'll be eating or where theyre bedding. Also only hunt smaller public land that is super pressured in maryland so that might add to the frustration. I mean it seems in order to kill a good buck, you need to spend 10x the amount of time scounting than actally hunting.
I think you're best bet is near water , probably a pond , I hunt near a pond and I see deer so it works. They need water
Access is confusing to me!
Hi Tony 😊 see you soon!
The #1 way to create secure access is by offering (or finding on public land) defined hunting season food sources (non ag). Food then determines access, morning and afternoon stands.
Gee i would smoke big bucks every year too if i 300 acres of different properties to pick from with prime cornfields surrounding it lol
Cornfields? We have plowed, picked fields. Unfortunately you have to be at the level to hunt mature bucks and you only get that way ..by hunting those bucks and being successful, for years. Decades. "Cornfields" - 🤣
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I believe so Kurt 😊 Good morning!
You, like many others, have named your deer and watch them year round. Yet you call yourself “hunting”. It’s your business if you raise the deer you shoot. But don’t call what you do “hinting”. You are harvesting There is no sport in what you do. It’s no different than raising chickens or cattle.
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you will lose your crap if you hang that good stuff on private land 100 % f people taking shit that dont belong to them
Man...you hunt on land on the wrong side of the tracks 😁 seriously tho...lots of stuff hanging on private land in many states no problems. Maybe they know we are serious and will hunt them down? 🤷🏻♂️
To be honest, hunting has now become an industry. I don't believe it's actually about a tradition. Everyone is looking for an angle to make money so they can hunt and get paid at the same time. It's just commercialization of what was considered farm land to now "PRIME HUNTING PROPERTIES!" I really dislike, but people only care about the money, and soon the wealthy will be the only ones that can afford to even by a home. You even get paid to set up people's properties, and I'll bet the working guy can't afford your price. Just being honest, I'm not mad at you.
Hunting was an industry decades ago, always has been always will be. The difference is now folks actually get paid to work in the industry other than a few outdoor writers who rarely actually knew what they were writing about. Now people get paid for what they know and those that don't know much ..don't get paid anymore. It's a very good thing....
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Being honest again! I know we are a capitalist society, and people have to make money. If you are trying to encourage more people to hunt, making it so expensive doesn't help. Some Liberals want to make every property into a sanctuary, and some conservatives want to carve up the land to build condominiums. Driving up the price of land just bc it's prime hunting land isn't right. Jeff, like I said, I like your views on no scent and your strategy to get that big buck, but I didn't start hunting until I was 42 and I liked the peacefulness of sitting on a tree. I own 86 acres that I bought for a reasonable price.The 1100 acres beside me was an atv park, then guys came out of Miami and chopped it up, and now the people can't hunt anymore bc of restrictions. I can't blame anyone for not wanting to be struck by a stray bullet. It boils down to that eventually you'll run out of hunting spots or the rich will put in all under a high fence. A billionaire bought another 1100 acres about 2 miles from me and high fenced with his 15 million dollar mansion. It's JUST A MATTER OF TIME, that the ordinary guys will be fighting over the public land spot if the greedy rich people in congress can't find a way to buy and sell it off to the highest bidder! I'm out!