Seems like Ohlins is most suitable for racers - or at least riders that are pushing very hard. Watch Brian Cahal reviewes of Ohlins suspension, IMO he is giving very objective opinion on these.
I'm riding one. Extremely small performance window for the spring. Real good with the perfect pressure but terrible at +/- 4 psi. Don't like the damper much. It's spikey and LSC/HSC mess with eachother. Love the HBO. Good stiffness on the outers too. Very weird rebound tune though. Had it reshimmed even at my about average rider weight. Overall I'm at a 7/10 on the Mezzer
I understand from lost co. öhlins review that in order to make the fork plush you need to take something out from the inside of the fork. Not spacers but something else. Throw that in the mix after Fox 38!
No it does not add setup difficulties. It is just, that Öhlins should leave the negative spacers out. All reviewers said, it is the best feeling and there is no use in decreasing the rxf negative chamber. This will add a large amount to the ride quality. Try again without neg spacers
@@alexbiketester yeah I’m just saying if you’re bike comes with an ohlins or a dvo or fox or zeb if you work with professional you’ll make it ride the way you want adjustability is so good these days it’s just about finding the right settings for your style
I would be amazed if the DVO could touch the 38 or the Zeb. I had the Onyx SC, this forks predecessor, on a previous bike and frankly it was not great. DVO quality control is very suspect, especially now that it's been exposed that they're having Suntour make their forks for them. Every review of the Ohlins I've seen basically says, get this fork if you're a world cup racer looking to extract every ounce of performance, but overkill for most riders. I have a 38 and have ridden several Zebs and both forks have amazing small bump compliance, the 38 also takes big hits extremely well.
Especccially the zeb is highly overrated. The dvo is better. Clearly what a friend of me, me and many tuner say, the charger 3 is actually worse than the c2. they pulled the Trick to get more Support by using this strange secondary piston but also introduced more harshness. If the Dvo is even better for hard riding than the öhlins 38, it is for sure better than the fox and zeb. Only because they have the largest Promotion Budget and you read about them everywhere it does not mean rs and fox are the best
It was never a secret that DVO are made by Suntour. They are still completely different products, that's like saying all bike frames are the same because they are made in the same factory in Taiwan. That would be stupid.
@@alexbiketester And x-Fusion top forks are of good quality. Their air springs from the previous Generation are just bad Designs. Their next forks will also have self equalizing air springs. And in contrast to suntour the xfusion offerings are pretty Light referring to their stiffness/weight ratio
@@Doc-Swiss One thing I have noticed across all 38 forks I have tried. You can not feel the weight or Chassis stiffness when riding. That is only something that can be measured on a machine.
i saw the EBike and had to say no bro, im sorry. Call me old school at the age of 35 but motors have no busniess being on two wheels. Earn your miles- stay true
Hey Alex: Pro tip: get a split crown race when testing different forks. Makes life way easier.
Yessss I need one.
Seems like Ohlins is most suitable for racers - or at least riders that are pushing very hard. Watch Brian Cahal reviewes of Ohlins suspension, IMO he is giving very objective opinion on these.
Possibly, but thats an incredibly small niche.....
Video quality is insane!
thanks
I've got 4 different bikes, but all rockshox forks 🤪 But I'm liking the look & your review of the DVO 😎
The ZEB is good, but im fatiguing less with the DVO so far.
@@alexbiketestercompared to 2025 charger 3.1 zeb or a charger 3 zeb?
@@ottohemio I will ask SRAM for one to compare it. Should be interesting.
@@ottohemio its a 2024 fork. not the latest one. But It was lowest on my lost so far.
@@alexbiketester just asking because at least I have heard the new one is quite a bit smoother even there is not that big of a change!
Did you get a chance to test DVO Onyx D1 vs Fox 38? Btw, nice video.
Almost went the ohlins, ended up on a manitou mezzer… amazing fork..
I had one, it was stolen, didnt manage to back to back it. Felt good though.
I'm riding one. Extremely small performance window for the spring. Real good with the perfect pressure but terrible at +/- 4 psi.
Don't like the damper much. It's spikey and LSC/HSC mess with eachother. Love the HBO. Good stiffness on the outers too.
Very weird rebound tune though. Had it reshimmed even at my about average rider weight.
Overall I'm at a 7/10 on the Mezzer
nice vid! How much PSI are you running in the DVO and whats your weight?
about 100 psi 90kg
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I understand from lost co. öhlins review that in order to make the fork plush you need to take something out from the inside of the fork. Not spacers but something else. Throw that in the mix after Fox 38!
Had to check it, it was a negative chamber spacer on the lower leg. Removing it gives the fork more plush of the top feeling.
@@ilarihakanen350 which if it works adds to the complications of setup. Not a fork for the general market
@@ilarihakanen350 will take a look. Going to do fox 38 against dvo. Then revisit the Ohlins
@@alexbiketesteragreed, but best of both worlds to some people i guess.
No it does not add setup difficulties. It is just, that Öhlins should leave the negative spacers out.
All reviewers said, it is the best feeling and there is no use in decreasing the rxf negative chamber. This will add a large amount to the ride quality.
Try again without neg spacers
Great trails to test suspension on! Jealous
Glad you like them!
Cool 😎 🆒️ 😎
Yeah Alex DVO for me bro.
Its hard to beat. I will back to back it against the FOX 38.... see what happens.
@@alexbiketester 🤘
These days I don’t think there is a bad fork, you just to learn what makes the fork tic. Working with a suspension tech makes this much easier.
no bad forks, but preferred in my experience.
@@alexbiketester yeah I’m just saying if you’re bike comes with an ohlins or a dvo or fox or zeb if you work with professional you’ll make it ride the way you want adjustability is so good these days it’s just about finding the right settings for your style
Products made for rider's vs for racers.
What’s the price difference ?
Ohlins is $150 to $200 more depending where you buy.
I would be amazed if the DVO could touch the 38 or the Zeb. I had the Onyx SC, this forks predecessor, on a previous bike and frankly it was not great. DVO quality control is very suspect, especially now that it's been exposed that they're having Suntour make their forks for them. Every review of the Ohlins I've seen basically says, get this fork if you're a world cup racer looking to extract every ounce of performance, but overkill for most riders. I have a 38 and have ridden several Zebs and both forks have amazing small bump compliance, the 38 also takes big hits extremely well.
Ohlins forks are made by X fusion for what I understand, high end individual production.
Especccially the zeb is highly overrated. The dvo is better. Clearly what a friend of me, me and many tuner say, the charger 3 is actually worse than the c2. they pulled the Trick to get more Support by using this strange secondary piston but also introduced more harshness.
If the Dvo is even better for hard riding than the öhlins 38, it is for sure better than the fox and zeb. Only because they have the largest Promotion Budget and you read about them everywhere it does not mean rs and fox are the best
It was never a secret that DVO are made by Suntour. They are still completely different products, that's like saying all bike frames are the same because they are made in the same factory in Taiwan. That would be stupid.
@@alexbiketester
And x-Fusion top forks are of good quality. Their air springs from the previous Generation are just bad Designs.
Their next forks will also have self equalizing air springs. And in contrast to suntour the xfusion offerings are pretty Light referring to their stiffness/weight ratio
@@Doc-Swiss One thing I have noticed across all 38 forks I have tried. You can not feel the weight or Chassis stiffness when riding. That is only something that can be measured on a machine.
i saw the EBike and had to say no bro, im sorry. Call me old school at the age of 35 but motors have no busniess being on two wheels. Earn your miles- stay true
Of course this is a valid point. The 38 is designed for ebikes... basically. you dont need a 38 on a non ebike.
People are going to buy them and have fun regardless of what you think though.
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