California homeowners now allowed to sell ADUs
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2023
- Governor Gavin Newsom signed several new laws designed to help create more housing in California. One actually allows homeowners to sell ADUs, also known as in-law units, that are on their property. Hilda Gutierrez reports.
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I would not want to buy a house where a complete stranger owns the ADU and I have no control over who lives there.
I looked at a home for sale once and the listing said that "another person lives on the property" and it was strange
Who? The current homeowner? Where do they live, eat, shower, park? Am I supposed to pay for their utilities? What if I have children? Are they a felon?
I wondered if it was the current homeowner who wanted to downsize but not really move.
This sounds like a big mess and headache for the main homeowner 🤷🏻
@@SergioFernandez-cj4mt increases the number of cars on the street too. We lived across the street from some Mexicans. I heard that one time the police came and took 14 people out if there
Another neighbor told me they had been inside and there were divider curtains in the rooms like a hospital with each bed had a hotplate. I don't know if they were related or what but there seemed to be family units there too. They were good neighbors. Had parties that made me want Mexican food. Lol
And other neighbors had multiple generations living together like our Chinese next door neighbors. Parents, grandparents, children, uncle. Built in babysitters. The elderly feel needed and have purpose.
@@SergioFernandez-cj4mt exactly..... theres no way in hell I would convert my backyard into a trailer park
What a weird idea. Private property within private property? What could possibly go wrong.
You've described condominiums.
Ikr if you get someone who’s unruly your screwed
@@Urbanhandymanit's more like "tenants in common"
I think condos would be easier to live in because the rules are already laid down in writing and you know what you are getting in to .
@@Almei43 I'm going by what the reporter said at :30 when she says the ADU would be sold using the same rules as a "condo." I'm sure it's going to be more complicated than that. I imagine that depending upon where the ADU is on the existing lot, a tenants in common arrangement might make more sense. The only thing that I know is that I want NOTHING to do with it although I'm not opposed to others trying it.
@@Urbanhandymanexcept condos are built properly from the beginning. It's going to be incumbent on the owner to make a ton of concessions on their property to ultimately sell their converted garages to some schmuck with a $400k loan from the bank. Imagine filling bankruptcy in this state because you couldn't afford to live in a garage. That's what you're going to see on the news in ten years because this state is playing games and gouging everyone with insane fees to build anything here. At best this is a dumb law with a lot of serious problems at worst it's setting people up for a predatory chain reaction.
This is just going to create more problems. I wouldn't buy an ADU nor would I sell one.
no rich person will buy a property with an ADU unless its vacant maybe
@@glarx3089 but see, a rich person will buy a cheap large chunk of property far away from their homes. Then they chunk out the smallest parcels possible to fit as many of these shoddy micro-homes as possible. SO, that bare corner lot in your neighborhood right now, it could have 5-6 homes on it in a year or so.
@@planexshifter whats the difference between that and muti-story condominums? That would make more sense than cramming 4-5 micro homes inside a 5000 square foot lot. Rich people dont think small like you and I.
@@planexshifter👈 Want to seem smart but failed miserably.
@@hugoballscost it is much cheaper to put in a bunch of pre-fab tiny home units than it is to build a multi-story condo or apt complex. Also rules and regulations are much more lax on ADUs and tiny homes than on full fledged housing.
Destroying their own property value by losing control of part of your property.
Increasing parking problem that impacts them directly.
more noise and people in your immediate vicinity means more nuisance
F that
lol I guess you've never heard of Townhomes condos or duplexes before. Basically what you're saying is you would never take advantage of monopolizing off of your own house so that then you could sell it buy more houses and keep monopolizing. I noticed most of the idiots like you guys making these comments aren't homeowners either and there's a reason why. Most of these people making these comments also are making car payments and have never actually held the pink slip to their car before so basically they're just renting it...Broke mindsets never make cents.....
REMEMBER to "keep that same energy" God forbid anything ever happen to your job, your spouse or your or your wifes health....You'd still be so ignorant to still not monopolize off your own home?!?! You'd rather become bankrupt before you'd swallow your own pride huh? 🥴🥴🤦♂💀
BYE KAREN
What could go wrong with neighbors living too close and sharing property and or a roof. This law is insane to say the least.
You must have never lived in a city like SF or NY... neighbors live on top of each other can get along just fine...
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Lol that's a ridiculous take. Clearly you've never lived in any part of Asia. Or any major European city.
The real issue is how messy sale values are going to be.
Ever heard of Townhomes or Condos?
I guess you have never heard of bad, horrible neighbors.
Bull! This is about collecting more taxes. Stop the BS!
Wrong, it’s an attack on private home ownership
@@kaveh1836how so? What if you want your elderly parents to live near you but but quite with you? They could have their own space but you're close enough to bring them a meal, make sure they take meds etc.
I didn't think it was legal to build or buy a tiny home now or to rent out a converted garage
How can you sell something that you weren't allowed to have?
Many tiny homes are like mobile homes, on wheels. The Incredible Tiny Homes UA-cam channel is one company making them
But they're small. And need hookups for water, sewer, electric. They have areas on their land so it's set up like a mobile home. You owe the home, but still pay rent to him for the use of the land.
This would allow you to own the land and have the same benefits of home ownership. It could reduce homelessness. But absolutely creats more issues.
Mist residential areas were never designed for as many cars as people have now . Older hones were designed for one car families, never enough outlets for today's gadgets
You're both wrong, it's about creating enough housing to handle the 10k illegals per day coming into the country.
You’re all wrong. It is because we all want to be closer to In-N-Out Burger. 😑
😂😂😂 That is so $tupid, what happens if the original home owner needs to sell their house. What new home buyer will want to share their garage/ back yard adu to a stranger. What a insane idea. Maybe if you’re ghetto you’ll love the idea.
Then as a homeowner don't put an adu on your property, it's still up to you whether to sell part of your property. Nevertheless I don't want this in our neighborhood, glad we don't live in CA.
It's a law that will increase housing choices for California's residents. Whether it's in a good area or a bad one is determined by the home's original location. There are plenty of people that will buy an ADU in a nice area because that's all that they can afford. In real estate a common phrase is "buy in the best area that you can afford" even if that means the home is smaller than you'd like. At the end of the day this law will be a drop in the bucket. It's more smoke and mirrors than an actual solving of the housing crisis.
@@Urbanhandyman You didn’t get the point. Yes, maybe some poor people will buy but your property value will decrease a lot if you do that. Then, what’s the point of doing that.
@@foxhu2287 Buying an ADU house for $200,000 to $400,000, depending on location and size, is for poor people? That doesn't sound poor to me. I live near Berkeley. I have a house on a small 3,700 square foot lot with a detached 200 square foot garage. If I sold it today I could earn $900,000, probably more. I could turn the garage into a two-story, 400 square foot, 1 bedroom, two-bath ADU, and sell it for $400,000. It would cost me around $100,000 for an okay quality but nothing fancy build. The ADU would offer one off-street parking spot in front of the ADU/former garage. I could then sell my main house on the now smaller 3,500 square foot lot for $800,000 easily. In the end I've earned $200,000 by constructing an ADU. This will work best for properties where the ADU sits as separate as possible from the original structure so that it feels truly independent. This means some properties won't do well such as with an ADU that sits far in the back that only has parking in the front or on the street and you have to walk through the main house side yard, feeling totally exposed and lacking privacy for both homes. Here in the Bay Area, it's hard to lower property value. It just keeps riding high no matter what it seems.
I guess you never heard of condo's, town homes and duplex before huh? Those people share their property with a "stranger" too but their not a "stranger" unless you just a Richard or a karen.... they are called neighbors.
This is a horrible law that needs to be repealed.
Homelessness has defied efforts to slow it down and make it come to a stop. It just keeps getting worse.
For the last 50 years, cities and counties have proven unable to make the hard decisions needed to bring homelessness under control.
So the governor and state legislature are being forced to pull rank on the cities and counties-and pass hundreds of new laws that force cities and counties to comply. It is happening in other states that have high homeless populations as well.
Would you think petition would work
@@joechen353Newsom would get rid of it just like the death penalty that was voted in and he put amendment in because him and his partner feel it's not right. I'm sure that the victims family's fell otherwise otherwise and so do i.
@@georgewolfiii1170What do they all have in common? Every one of those Cities are controlled by Democrats. Stop voting Blue, that's the only way things are going to change and that's a #FACT!
@@brucebouck6152It's NOT ONLY Newsom, it's the entire DEMOCRAT controlled legislature. The problems will not get better until people STOP VOTING DEMOCRAT!
California use to be a nice, affordable place to live before Democrats became the majority Party. Everything has gone down hill every year since then, and that's why people and businesses are flocking to more Red/Conservative (Republican) lead states.
So now you will have to pay an additional property tax and other fees when before you did not? How nice.
I think if you build it and maintain ownership that won't be the case. In the end your property tax already increases bc you added liveable square footage to your property just like any addition to your main house. That will be reassessed. But if you sell it off the other owner pays property taxes.
No, the property becomes a condominium association which means each building is private property. Some of the land becomes common areas while other sections can remain privately owned by the adjacent house. It depends on the shape and size of the lot to determine how the final arrangement is made.
I don’t think that’s how it works. I believe all of that only comes into play, if you choose to sell/title the ADU. And then the property tax would be due from the new owner.
I’m not terribly excited about this law but at the very least we should learn & understand the facts before making final proclamations on judgement.
@@pushslice people already parcel out their land if you have enough of it. Certainly it will become more crowded and sadly in most average .2 acre properties without ingress for autos to park off street, it's an issue. But otherwise, it's not necessarily bad...just that you can't claw anything back once you parcel it out and sell it to someone you end up w issues with. You gotta buy it back if you want it back. If you're smart you'd maintain it as a rental.
Governor hair gel is really doing a bang up job on his way for a run to President
We are 38 billion in debt and he’s passing garbage bills
More taxes, more permits and regulations for home building
Trying to make everybody go green with vehicles yet we don’t have any infrastructure to support that
Wow.. California .. weird law and weird leaders.
Next law.. able to sell camping spot in backyard.
When I was a kid, I wanted to live in San Francisco, up on the hills, where they had and still have these big two story 1880-1905 houses looming over the streets. I was only 11 years old, but I was already an expert in architectural styles and forms. I searched out Real Estate sales brochures as there was no internet in 1971. Every trip to SF and the environs on our camping trips from LA to Yosemite, I collected “FOR SALE” flyers. Those houses were listed at $120,000-$145,000 tops back then. I figured I’d have one by the time I was 30. Wrong. By the time I was 30, those houses were 1.5 million. Today, they are 5 million. Thats not regulations. Thats greed. Today, I am a landord with homes in South Pasadena and Echo Park. My rentals are leased for THOUSANDS less than the going rate. I’m doing my part NOT to add to the greed.
You're awesome! Have anything available in Echo Park? I'd love to get the heck out of sf.
I was born in San Francisco, and became disabled at 26 years old . I truly applaud you for being one of the gem landlords ! I’m scared for the future. I saw what landlord greed did to my neighborhood and my city. The amount of empty apartments in San Francisco is ridiculous. So many people are sleeping on the street while others literally hoard housing and shelter . It sounds like you truly care and are running your business ethically. Many landlords forget their “business” is human shelter . I wish you all the blessings in the world . ❤
I thought that about my landlord too for years , low rent what could go wrong . But then problematic neighbors with no boundaries, issues with the complex mainly from the neighbors that were causing property damage which affected my health so bad I couldn’t work and killed my emotional support pets. No lie , I have medical and state programs to back me up. While my landlord wouldn’t even come in and solve the issues . Come to find out , my lease illegal. My apartment illegal doesn’t have the permits for extended building and my landlord mainly does repairs himself. A lot of people have good intentions when lining their own pockets .
@@Katsnacksyour neighbors Killed your animals!??!!
The lease is coming up but I think the current renters are going to renew, sorry. College age kids, but theyre respectful, dont eff up the house. Nice people
He keeps signing into law decisions that encourage squatters
agree, commie is as commie does
Gotta make room for the 10k illegals pouring across the border per day.
And he does nothing to help comabt the squatters. Homeowners will end up paying more than they've ever made.
If I have an ADU in my backyard and someone comes through my property will be dealt with. Simple as that, but you fear mongering munkeys are just idiots. Yes, I misspelled that word.
This does not address the main reason why housing is so unaffordable in California. It’s because of all the regulations and requirements to build anything.
Yes sir......red tape galore.
Huge swathes of land from South San Jose to Morgan Hill. Protected and left as is for wildlife.
@@AKAAAKu
@@15raid maybe U??
40% of the cost to build are the rules and regulations.
Sounds like a great way to generate more tax money for the government
I own 3 properties in the bay area and I would NEVER go for this
Can you imagine...it's like row houses in Frisco.
....but you can't stop your neighbor from destroying your property value
@@onenikkione Only ghetto neighborhoods will do things like this.
@@onenikkione .......And they can't stop you from moving.....after all you're not a tree. If you don't like it sell your house in the city and buy a house in the country. Problem solved.
What about selling tree houses and forts on the property with land rights. The state is desperate for revenue here and SF Phil Ting authoring this? Phil Ting we have had our subroom selling issues in houses here. The primary property will have all the responsibility for the lot sewer and other miscellaneous things and be bothered by drone enforcement.🏡⛺
I'm a Democrat & Gavin Newsom always finds a way to surprise me in how much I can detest him as a politician.
"Lets not offer affordable places to live. No way! Lets make mother in law units cost 30% of the entire property!"
Which, if you've spent time in one, is insane.
Congrats! You voted for this.
You are also responsible for the homeless on the streets You're responsible for this mess
@@99.8Survivor
Nope.
I voted against Gavin Newsom in every election I've ever had the option to do so. I voted for the former mayor of L.A., instead of Newsom, the first time Newsom ran for Governor & voted _for_ Newsom's recall. Including signing the measure to get it on the ballot in the first place (also recruiting others to go sign it). So don't you put his bullshit on me.
@@DoobieKeebler Any Dem you've voted for has brought CA to where it is today. So ya, you are a part of this.
@@DoobieKeeblerYou have my respect. I hope we can get this clown out of office and get someone more qualified.
I’ve worked hard my whole life and apparently it’s my dream to live in your backyard..
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I’m seeing so many California license plates in Texas neighborhoods, much better option than a renovated chicken 🐓 coop in someone else’s backyard
They are 'Californicating' Texas as we speak. Besides, hair gel Newson will slither his way to the WH in '28.
Push then out before they destroy Texas! I live in Cali and would never want these people voting for changes in my city if I were you. These destroyed CA then moved to TX and AZ!
I'm seeing so many Texas license plates on my California streets... chicken coops must be better than hurricanes
@@TheIncomparableGolfer Lol, people in Texas don’t live in chicken 🐓 coops so we’ll never know 🤣
@@propblast82nd who do you think rents these renovated chicken coops?? It's people from states like Texas who are here to collect California wages...
I did not know Seattle had become it's own state... 2:00
This is how you build high density hovels.
Make no mistake, this is an attack on private property ownership. Imagine your neighbors doing this. This is going to drastically diminish the quality of life in neighborhoods. Imagine 8 people living next door
They gotta do something to handle the influx of illegals... 10k a day across the southern border, they gotta live somewhere...
You know who are those people ( Coyote)
This comment makes no sense. The government is not involved in who you sell or rent to.
@@obf213 no but they’re trying to get people to move into the inner cities and into vertical construction. They’re trying to do away with the automobile and pass legislation that destroys single family home neighborhoods. They don’t want you being a private land owner
Like a trailer park...
This is crazy. My mom use to live in Santa Clara. Everytime a house sold in her neighborhood a person or family moved in and illegally converted their garage into 2 or 3 rooms and rented them out. After a while there were no spaces in the street to park, People parked in front of her home of 60 years with disregard for others who needed those spots for visitors or company. Now that ADU are legal it is going to get worse. Meanwhile Newsome has his winery he can retreat to.
That's what happen when y'all 🗳 vote for democratic
The median rent in California is 1900. Lower that first
Omg this happened in my parents neighborhood we have a corner rancher plenty of parking spots nowadays omg so many cars you can’t even get a spot in front of your own house. Good Lord so much congestion
Where I live in California. You would have never seen a car parked on the street 10 years ago. Because everybody was parked in the driveway. Now there's almost no parking. If you park in front of my home, I will cut your tires. I will shoot your windows out. And with the proper planning, it's a b**** to prove who did it. Cause you are not allowed to set up cameras on a property. That is not yours, so when you park 3,4 houses away in front of somebody else's house. And you're relying on your car camera. And if somebody has privacy, bushes in front of their house and your camera can't clearly see what's going on in that property. Or drones dropping rocks through windshields. And if you don't like what I just wrote out because you live in one of these. Oh well Moving to an actual house don't make a neighborhood worse than it already is leave the f****** state. I don't care, stop f****** up my home. Stop making it where my dogs bark every 5 minutes. Stop making it where I hear car doors Close in front of MY HOUSE every couple minutes. Stop driving down the street with your base vibrating the home. Then you also have to think about. Fires, fires happen all the time. The homeless constantly start fires. Do you really want to risk a fire on a property that you're converted into a multi unit? Insurance doesn't pay out on arson.
same thing happened to my home in fremont CA. horrible law, hope we can repeal it
Wow we're doing this instead of like, protecting real affordable housing from developers making luxury condos/apartments that are 1/3 or more vacant?? Smh
Yes! You are correct. Every year tens of thousands of perfectly good homes whose mortgages are paid off are demolished and hauled off to a landfill so some land speculator can put up two new homes that cost two or three million each, and that only the top 2% can afford to buy.
Building departments facilitate this evil process by selling demolition permits for less than $500!
Yes, this is what we allowed
who also get tax payers dollars to develop
What’s next property tax on garden sheds ? Will my existing property tax be reduced ? Do we have a separate utility bill for electric with infrastructure fee that increase each year ?
Yes separate bills for water,sewer, gas,electric, all other utilities and yes fees and taxes will continue to increase.
Good questions... Will be waiting for updates on this.
Somebody find a real job for Phil Ting to do. Like have him draw up zoning for homeless encampments. Sheeesh.
The problem is that the homeless problem has defied efforts to halt it, primarily because cities and counties haven’t had the political will to make the hard choices. So it is forcing the states to pull rank on cities and counties to force them to comply with all kinds of new state laws designed to build more low-income housing.
@@georgewolfiii1170 Foreign investors with huge assets buying up properties under an umbrella company to drive up housing prices is the problem. CA needs to follow NY and ban AirBnB's. Limit people and especially corporations to owning fewer properties.
This is not going to end well.
Wait until they start forcing home owners to add an ADU in any unused space in the backyard.
Or start to have home owners to rent a room to homeless
you are wize!!❤️❤️😳😳👏👏👏🥰
Oh hell no! If that happens I move elsewhere
Dumb... The Government is more likely to take your property for building a highway
This is the worst Idea ever! Now I know why my area was giving breaks on ADU permits and on lot line encroachment . Because this is just other way California is going to charge more taxes!
BOO HOO. Cry about it. 🤣
Favelas
People in this country have been subdividing for the last 200 years.
"A little bit cheaper" now that's hilarious.
There needs to be a HOUSING INITIATIVE, not giving landlords more venues to exploit people for rent and extend poverty. No path for home ownership = no path for retirement.
No no, you have it wrong. You can own my garage though 😂 idiots.
The Democratic party doesn't function..... Rezoning near the cores of cities reduces costs in the suburbs surrounding them. Like Tokyo or parts of Texas...
Blaming the voters is more appropriate, as they have no concept of supply and demand.
Wow they don't care about quality of life they care more about the bottom line. Tax money
My neighbor is currently building an ADU in his “front” yard. The design looks like a tuff shed from Home Depot. This is a suburb neighborhood so it will look terrible but there is nothing the county can do because of the new state ADU laws. This will do nothing to help the homeless problem. It will only turn nice neighborhoods into bad ones.
There is a new bill under consideration for renting rooms out.
No smart homeowners will do as you claimed.
@@tommydong8070 lol I guess you've never heard of Townhomes condos or duplexes before. Basically what you're saying is you would never take advantage of monopolizing off of your own house so that then you could sell it buy more houses and keep monopolizing. I noticed most of the idiots like you guys making these comments aren't homeowners either and there's a reason why. Most of these people making these comments also are making car payments and have never actually held the pink slip to their car before so basically they're just renting it...Broke mindsets never make cents.....
REMEMBER to "keep that same energy" God forbid anything ever happen to your job, your spouse or your or your wifes health....You'd still be so ignorant to still not monopolize off your own home?!?! You'd rather become bankrupt before you'd swallow your own pride huh? Yeah thats real "smart". Good going Sherlock. 🥴🥴🤦♂💀
@@tommydong8070 I believe they will, and if they don’t, corporations are all lined up to create their own communities and charge ridiculous homeowner association fees. I live in Palos Verdes we have always had strict moratoriums due to land movement. Where I live, I don’t feel I have taken a risk, but I specifically chose this area because of the moratoriums. Even Rolling Hills Estates, a very exclusive gated community in this area must comply. It’s happening.
The homeowners like it, I saw one for rent and it was still about 3,000 for a one-bedroom, near the beach. lol
It actually gives a state more taxes. I guess they think we're freaking fools.
As an outside observer, Gavin does
Newsome only cares about his tax money. He don't care about crime or quality of life.
Just about to finish my ADU and PG&E told me I had to wait a year to get it connected because the transformer needs to be updated or fixed. No off-grid option. I wonder how many of those new ADU's being built will be in this same situation before they can be rented or sold.
Selling them is not wise. Then they have equal rights as the original homeowner. SB9 allows for splitting the lot and then you could sell lot and ADU as its own - no HOA or anything to be created. Seriously though, HOA's are rarely (if ever) a good idea.
Destroying our way of life one law at a time
Then you have more cameras going up for easy money
How is allowing someone to sell their ADU on their property destroys your way of life?
@@tommydong8070 over crowding neighborhood's turning them into ghettos. A house designed for two cars will now be a house with an ADU and four cars. Ghetto
Welcome to America if you don't like it just remember you're not a tree you can move to another country. But im sure you'll find plenty of things to complain about there too. 🤣
@@elitebeats8414nothing wrong about expressing disgust with our governor turning the entire state into a ghetto
Maybe lower the median rent in this state first before passing worthless laws that aren’t helping anyone. An ADU is at least 80 grand to put in.
And can be sold for $400,000 here in the Bay Area. That's CHEAP.
45 years ago, in 1978, I converted my mother’s one-car garage into an ADU. Even though it has a 3/4 bathroom (shower but no tub), and a small, but complete kitchen, I was able to do it all for $3,000. But that was 45 years ago.
This is an underhanded way for the assessor to increase his bottom line.
Buying and living in a garage is not a “home ownership opportunity”
Where do children play? Congestion where to park. Repainting of their cars, hope it doesn't hail. Limited storage for all. Unless one has a large lot, this is going to create many arguments among the owners.
You lost me at, "repainting of their cars, hope it doesn't hail."
This is dumb and setup for many painful processes, taxes, fees, and legal battles. The winner is the city here
Have they decided to put any rules at all around airbnb's in short term rental house holding corporation LLC s? No.
This is a temporary fix that would lead to even more problems.
BIG news. Will this presage a change in parcel numbers?
Assuming people want to sell maybe like 15% of their private property... wtf
Done all the time...can you say time share...
How can you sell an ADU? An ADU is on your property. When you sell the ADU, do you also subdivide your property or do you sell the ADU and lease the property the ADU sits on to the buyer? Anyway you look at it, its crazy.
This is a parking nightmare and probably increased fire hazard.
This is the solution to the overtaxation problem and irresponsible government spending in California. Tax more and keep going, as a lifelong Californian I’m finished.
Overtaxation and still a $32B deficit.
@@dc8201 extremely irresponsible
I wonder how his will effect the property taxes? The ADU would become separate and essentially a condo....and taxed at a price reflecting its market price as such.
Sacto must love this.
Which is why they're doing it, the state wasn't getting any taxes from people renting out ADUs
Yep Cali needs a lot more taxes to pay for their Government Pensions that are under water.
So if I buy a Adu what happened if homeowners foreclose house. Do bank get my Adu also or is they stuck with me..
Make no mistake, this has nothing to do with extra housing options and everything to do with more tax revenue.
Stupid crazy ass idea 😂😂😂😂 the list of problems is nuts 🥜 😂😂😂
Sounds like a massive parking problem to me.
So that’s what going on. In the recent months a few of my neighbors have been lugging in these big backyard structures and closing down streets to use cranes to put them in their yard. Always wondered what they were doing till now. Tbf I can see the value too. My neighbor is renting his studio ADU in his yard for 2400 a month so it’s not bad.
Thats not the main reason, the reason is corporations buying up all the housing driving up the price and leaving nothing for the rest of us, greedy people who use housing as investments opportunies, I'm currently working for a landlord who has 13 rental properties. No one can even buy houses cause this a hole has all of them.
Sounds like a headache and a bunch of redtape for cities/counties to profit.
Its called sub dividing. Its not a knew thing, it's been the process forever. Folks have always rented space, but unless it was an approved sub division you couldnt sell part of your property. The difference here sounds like it quickens the process, so if it's quicker & easier, more folks will do it, bringing in even more revenue for the state. It's always about squeezing more juice from the lemon.
Only in liberal California does this make sense
I visited Michigan and the housing market there over the last 7-8 years is unlike anything I’ve ever seen. Homes that were bought for $130K in 2015 are now being sold for $490k. I’m talking about tiny, disgusting, poorly built 950 square foot shit boxes in quite mediocre neighborhoods. Then you’ve got Better, average sized homes in nicer neighborhoods that were $350K+ 10 years ago selling for $750k+ now. Wild times.
They have amazingly found one more reason to not live in California...
How about this one for size 2 separate property taxes. And if you don't sell, those taxes you will be paying on both properties.
It's entirely possible that your newly built tiny ADU will have a bigger property tax liability than your large 50 year old home. I'm pre Prop 13. My property tax is about 20% of my neighbors on each side with the identical model and lot size. Fortunately we are two small to add anything with proper easements but the two houses behind us on a cul de sac have fairly large wedge shaped lots and the corners behind me would be perfect to do this.
Sure, you have control over who you choose to sell the ADU to, but if the new ADU owner wants to sell at a future date you will not have any say as to who they ultimately choose to sell it to.
And all garages will be converted in rooms wow now where is cable going to go
ADU: "😃Unit for sale. Ocean views, close to Epicurian markets, posh restaurants and private schools.35sq ft dog house with alarm, keyless gated entry, acess to AI controlled hose and manicured backyard with compost area..😍 A bargain at $1.5 Million plus 30% closing costs.🤣😂🤣.
This is just stupid. So some schmuck buys a granny flat, but doesn't hold title to the land it's on. What happens when the deed holder dies or sells? With no title to the land, what is going to happen to the ADU 'owner'? This is like owning a trailer in a trailer park, but not the land. You will get screwed.
Yup, we call it a "condo conversion".
Yeah and were do they park?????
i have an empty adu. it needs so much work that theres no way i could even rent it as it is right now. but to sell? heck no.
What a horrible law to pass, but again the voters keep voting for stupid people.
Voting. Bro the systems rigged now. We saw that with the Trump Biden election. The old America this worked. Now we're all fucked.
Do you really believe there is someone out there who will put the people first? I am not happy with Gavin Newsom, but I was more concerned about the guy who was running against him, who was a conservative developer. I thought he would be the one to do something just like what’s happening now. I don’t know how we can get out of this situation, because money manipulates and talks. There are decent people out there who would like to do the right thing, but they will never get pushed to the top and visible to the people. Do you agree? I’m afraid it’s too late and the politicians have gotten too good at the game.
P.S. I am a registered Democrat, but will always vote for the person who I believe will do the best job. I can’t remember his name, but I was very close to voting for him. The fact that he was a developer made me nervous. The writing was already on the wall with what is happening here.
What do I know
It's just creating two-unit condominium associations in some cases where the owner opts to sell the ADU. This isn't going to solve the housing crisis since it's just a drop in the bucket. This is a law that makes a lot of noise but at the end of the day nothing really changes.
Drops in the bucket add up. This law is just one of sbout 75 new laws signed into existence over the last 6 years. They add up!
This will adversely change the population density in some neighborhoods.
@@renel7303 "Adversely" is a socio-political statement. The entire point of ADUs is to offer more affordable housing. That could be to a librarian, a fast food worker, a Russian tech immigrant, or a young family with a newborn baby. More people will mean more cars on the street in the short term. More people will mean the occasional annoying party next door with one of those big inflatable trampolines. Despite that it's going to help our society far more than hurt it. We can't pretend it's 1965 any longer.
Social distancing is over but it's so profitable 🤑
It WILL increase the number if cars in the area. It would be nice for karger oroperties, like an acre or so. They have room for another driveway, carport outdoor space.
An acre? That's 43,000 square feet of land. The average lot in a "traditional" single-family home with a yard is around 5,000 square feet here in the San Francisco Bay Area.
anyone who can afford an acre isnt going to move strangers in on top of themselves.
@@Urbanhandyman my home in that area was 1/10th of an acre. 50 feet wide by 100 feet deep
@@recoveringsoul755 Almost. It's somewhere between 1/11th and 1/12th of an acre. 5,000 square feet is really common from the late 1950s until the 1990s here in the Bay Area. I live in a house from the 1940s and the lot is 3700 square feet. The largest lot near me is around 6,000 square feet while the smallest are around 2,500 square feet. Since my neighborhood predates cookie-cutter suburbia by ten years that explains why the lot sizes are a bit random. I have a garage that's detached from the house and is on the other side of my rear garden. I could turn the garage into a studio ADU for $100,000, sell it for $400,000, and live comfortably from the money until I fall face first into my pond. But I would never want that kind of hassle, of living with someone RIGHT next to me. We'd end up sharing the wide driveway for parking our cars. No way. But my next door neighbor could do it. Who knows?
@@Urbanhandyman yes our driveway was long sking the side of the house into the backyard. Where the detached garage was built after the house. Carport on the side so covered parking for 3. Plus a bunch more cars could be in the backyard or driveway and two spots in front of the house. But it's hard to take out the garbage. Would there be two sets of bins?
Court lots had much larger yards. Every other house in my block had a built in garage the others had no garage. But someone built ours.
Means a smaller bit of grass
These ADU laws are another example of the government passing ITS responsibility on to citizens. Selling these separately make no sense except for homeowners who want to cash in.
Feel by neighbors have, did it? No parking noise is outrageous...to many people in one around
Oh hell no
It's all about $$$. Imagine the mess. You build an ADU then that gets taxed. But if you allow an ADU you lose your privacy and access is a nightmare for you and the now ADU. So what about parking? Water? Property upkeep! Oh and good ole property taxes. This isn't about an in-law home this is about more environment destruction and overcrowding. If the ADU doesn't become an ABNB it will be a miracle. This law needs to go into the trash.
And don't forget handicapped stares
ADU is called an in law unit?
So much for affordable rentals.
They are just doing this because they want you to pay doble bills of water, gas, electricity, garbage, fees... fees and more fees... is not about resolving the housing problem... they are the problem no having regulations for the prices of the rent.. now that people is renting their garage have to pay some money from that... who is helping who?... this is just so ridiculous ...
It would make more IMMEDIATE sense to sell these homes on existing lots the same rules as trailer parks: you don't own the land, but you pay trash, water, hydro, tech. until this sorts itself out.
Yes, I think this could be a solution going forward. I have sold "modular" homes that are effectively on a lease with park with rental payments, separate taxes for the "modular", same with tax bills, insurance, utilities, etc. These units are on VERY SMALL LOTS with just a few feet to separate them, and yet these communities function very well even with close neighbors who are owners not tenants. The difference here is that "modular" could be moved as a separate structure but in reality that never happens. If the owner default on the lease, or is in violation of the park "rules" they forfeit their property. They must qualify to reside in the park and must be voted in. So I think this structure makes more sense as a CONDO plan is very complex document and needs to be simple for all to understand.
Yeah, it's called: DENSITY. Hardly a new concept.
I'm against ADU this is just I want you to VOTE FOR US. 🗳 That's Sucks I think. ( Opinion Only Applies)😢
It costs more than 30% of the current home value to build these ADUs, so it makes more sense to rent them out.
this is clearly not gonna end well
Interesting money wise that is win 50/50 some negatives and some positives please no HOA. but overall if you got this rent it out dont sell it, If you are single then yea probably sell it but most people got kids and family so it is a headache I think in terms of new owner who could be nice people but might just be a headache overall or what if they rent it out to someone who is headache to deal with..
This is only going to increase the prices for housing
what a terrible idea
I'd think it is still subject to a current HOA's rules!
That’s the key, separate property taxes and utilities more money for the man
It goes deeper than that you're a wealthy property owner in California you've probably noticed less people making offers to rent your property well now you can rent it out for half the price because that property is two properties this was a hundred percent designed for the wealthy property owners
This is not good
That's
The resale value will be negatively impacted. I'd never buy a home if the unit over the garage, or in the backyard, didn't belong to me.
Former California girl here. 20 years ago I was faced with finding it a challenge to survive in the bay area - I moved to Oregon and bought a affordable house and have no regrets. My once wonderful state " the City By The Bay- is destroyed.
You can thank all the woke liberals/democrats
Can you imagine you want to take a nap and your neighbor is having party at the garage and you can do anything because he's owned property 🥴🤭
Don't worry. I have been checking out the prices. They are not cheaper! Or at least the cheaper we actually need!
I do like the move to sell churches and stuff as housing though...could get creative