Medtner - Forgotten Melodies I, Op.38

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  • Опубліковано 25 гру 2024

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  • @PentameronSV
    @PentameronSV  6 років тому +64

    0:02 - 1. Sonata reminiscenza
    13:01 - 2. Danza graziosa
    15:54 - 3. Danza festiva
    21:16 - 4. Canzona fluviala
    23:51 - 5. Danza rustica
    26:28 - 6. Canzona serenata
    30:13 - 7. Danza silvestra
    33:50 - 8. Alla reminiscenza

  • @sabrinaschantz
    @sabrinaschantz Рік тому +14

    theres just something that stands out about medtners music, something intimate and inviting, im not sure how to explain it, but its really spectacular.

  • @sama.4471
    @sama.4471 3 роки тому +41

    Such a high level masterpiece, all eight of these incredible interconnected pieces. Medtner was such a genius and the Op. 38 is one of the supreme examples of his legacy

  • @alguiennanimo2135
    @alguiennanimo2135 Рік тому +4

    Dude that ad right after the reexp of the A theme in first piece killed me 🤣😅🥲 Thanks so much for uploading tho😍

  • @NozarMortazavi
    @NozarMortazavi 4 роки тому +48

    Medtner so forgotten himself, underrated, at least outside Russia.

    • @catherineanstett126
      @catherineanstett126 4 роки тому +8

      Oui!!!!! Un compositeur merveilleux, un homme qui fait rêver. A dream-man, unknowned, so mervellous

    • @andrewpetersen5272
      @andrewpetersen5272 Рік тому +8

      Not underrated, underperformed.

    • @TonyHuang-e2l
      @TonyHuang-e2l 2 місяці тому

      More people need to experience the genius of his music

  • @gavincannon8385
    @gavincannon8385 4 роки тому +11

    03:50 This melodic peak. wow.

  • @LukeFaulkner
    @LukeFaulkner 6 років тому +63

    Such beautiful works... I hope to record them myself someday.

  • @marnieholdsworthgreen8449
    @marnieholdsworthgreen8449 9 місяців тому +5

    34:50 oh my GOD MY HEART

  • @aristotle719
    @aristotle719 5 років тому +22

    Forgotten melodies can inspire a lot of composers like Medtner to show their personal side. Although the Sonata was a bit too fast (Richter shows a slower, more intimate side), it still has a nice catch to it. It's never easy to play pieces that reflect such hardships no matter what it is. Playing it all in one shot's a major challenge no matter who dares to do so.

  • @frosted3
    @frosted3 3 роки тому +9

    18:59 love this leggierissimo section, plus its really fun to play lol

  • @conan2717
    @conan2717 6 років тому +18

    Thank you very much! I really appreciate your work. This is such precious music...

  • @JoshuaPluta
    @JoshuaPluta 5 місяців тому

    The coda is one of the most beautiful things I’ve ever heard what an ending to an amazing piece

  • @PetrichorAllegory
    @PetrichorAllegory 3 роки тому +15

    After listening to this work, I find it hard to disagree with Rachmaninoff's assessment of Medtner as the greatest composer of his generation.

    • @ericastier1646
      @ericastier1646 Рік тому +3

      Rachmnaninoff made some strange accolades statements. I believe Scriabin was also of that generation, Medtner is great but it is strange for Rachmaninoff to say something like that, it really is not his authority to say that true or not. He also said Hoffman was the greatest pianist which was clearly not true. Maybe because he was a polar opposite to Rachmaninoff whith short hands small stature (he even had a piano built just for him with narrower keys !), opposite attraction.

    • @wellknown3249
      @wellknown3249 8 місяців тому +1

      @@ericastier1646 Well, he had his opinions... we all have

    • @polynoominen
      @polynoominen 4 місяці тому

      @@ericastier1646 kinda autistic comment. It is clear that it's only an opinion, it's impossible to be objective about such a subjective subject that a music is.

  • @ericastier1646
    @ericastier1646 Рік тому +1

    I guessed what the meaning of sonata reminiszenza was for the composer from hearing the music from other pianists, i didn't know the title nor the composer, and wrote it down. Here in the description the answer is given and low and behold by intuition was correct.

  • @tarikeld11
    @tarikeld11 2 роки тому +5

    26:53 reminds me of Greek folkmusic...

  • @Lircking
    @Lircking 5 місяців тому

    me sinking down through the ocean of past memories: 6:59

  • @liquiditey
    @liquiditey 2 роки тому

    One of my favorite Medtner pieces =~}

  • @PianoScoreVids
    @PianoScoreVids 6 років тому +33

    Thats a great one. It truly shows medtners capabilities, nice melodies, everything kind of connected together in a logical way. But the first piece, the gorgeous sonata reminiscenza was waaaaay too fast for my taste, sadly.

    • @DihelsonMendonca
      @DihelsonMendonca 4 роки тому +2

      Perhaps you like this: ua-cam.com/video/UqsRO2KIDis/v-deo.html

  • @Broken_3026
    @Broken_3026 4 роки тому +14

    계속 메트너 곡을 추천해줬던 쉬시킨 그는 대체..

  • @mlpbronydreams3554
    @mlpbronydreams3554 4 роки тому +5

    canzona-serenata❤️

    • @ericastier1646
      @ericastier1646 Рік тому

      No, you have to like #1 Sonata reminiscenza of which canzona-serenata is just a short rebound.

    • @mlpbronydreams3554
      @mlpbronydreams3554 Рік тому +1

      @@ericastier1646 I found sonata op38#1 quite difficult piece, maybe, to listen up to the end, because of some specificity of its form and music. This little piece is just rebound of it, and I know it. But that beauty of some of details and structure - like some of polyphonic variations of the first part in the end, haunting movement in the middle part, and, at the same time simplicity of this music - they are breaking my heart and taking me to the paradise a.s.t.!😭😍 so stunning. Sonata 39#1 is much bigger at all, and I think in « miniature » style of that canzona those melodies got the most perfect form

    • @ericastier1646
      @ericastier1646 Рік тому +1

      @@mlpbronydreams3554 bravo, i susccribe to your musical analysis, i feel the same way. I completely get what you mean about sonata 38 #1 being difficult to listen to. But it's odd, sometimes it capture me in awe and days later i hear the same soundtrack and it's as you say, i feel like "wait how come it sounded so good the other day ?!". I think the form is a bit faulty, harmonic cues and his rhythmic language are sometimes the wrong thing to concentrate on, only in certain state of minds will make you ignore it and feel the amazing hidden continuity from beginning to end. This probably also makes it a risky piece to perform as it may sound like a bore on the wrong day. The miniature canzona serenata only picks choicy bits and is more reliably effective. I was going to learn it.

    • @mlpbronydreams3554
      @mlpbronydreams3554 Рік тому

      @@ericastier1646 wow, many thanks! Feeling very relatable for your thoughts about hearing something ‘boring’ days later.. sonata is complex piece to perform and requiring much skills, I wish you good luck to learn it!)
      And I’m very sorry for my bad English! I’m really glad to see there people who likes Medtner’s music at all😄

    • @ericastier1646
      @ericastier1646 Рік тому +1

      @@mlpbronydreams3554 i am going to learn the Canzona Serenata for all the reasons we discussed, not the sonata. Just now i found the pianist is also a bit responsible, take for example @1:50 "legatissimo" the pianist goes "Oh yep melody in the left hand" and brings the left and drowns the right hand too much, some critical harmony notes setting are uneven ppp (it's hard to make an even pianissimo) and if you're not actively listening to the right hand you miss a great moment in the music. And yet, this is the best recording i heard of the group of pieces and i heard Luganski, then Medtner woman student and others. Your english is perfectly fine why you even mention it.

  • @Xyriak
    @Xyriak 9 місяців тому

    25:52 Chopin Mazurka in C major

  • @КонстантинЩоголев-и8ц

    Даааааа это классика пианино вау

  • @soupelintunes
    @soupelintunes Рік тому

    I really enjoy the second one

  • @lucasdelliosiv7493
    @lucasdelliosiv7493 4 роки тому +3

    8 58 kinda reminds me of Prok 3 3rd movement

  • @markos3940
    @markos3940 2 роки тому +2

    19:00

  • @PrestissimoMasterStation
    @PrestissimoMasterStation 4 роки тому

    8. Alla reminiscenza - Just Like Waltz.

  • @handledav
    @handledav 10 місяців тому +1

    forgotten

  • @프로틴-n8z
    @프로틴-n8z 3 роки тому +2

    35:50

  • @shyne6413
    @shyne6413 Місяць тому +1

    Да, не только "забытые мелодии", но и забытые композиторы. Жаль, что именитых пианисты зациклились на именитых композиторах. А могли бы в своих концертах/записях популяризировать музыку менее известных. Вот и не было бы забыты.

  • @pghagen
    @pghagen 5 місяців тому

    Horowitz did play Medtner, as well as Severin von Eckartstein did. I specially like the first part. Alexander Malofeëv played it very well and not too fast.

  • @pghagen
    @pghagen 5 місяців тому

    This Geoffrey Tozer is a dam'nd good pianist.! As those pieces are very difficult to play.

  • @adanactnomew7085
    @adanactnomew7085 3 роки тому +10

    Guess whose music is copy right freeeeee

  • @ericastier1646
    @ericastier1646 Рік тому

    1. Sonata reminiscenza ❤

  • @Xyriak
    @Xyriak 9 місяців тому

    4:33

  • @shyne6413
    @shyne6413 Місяць тому

    "не было бы забытыХ"

  • @흠호호
    @흠호호 3 роки тому +3

    라떼는 쇼팽 폴로네이즈랑 라벨이였다 열심히들해라 귀요미들

  • @정원-p5c
    @정원-p5c Рік тому

    5번

  • @피아노콩
    @피아노콩 4 роки тому +1

    서울대 2차 시험곡이네요 ㅠㅜ

    • @josephsmusicdiary8855
      @josephsmusicdiary8855 4 роки тому

      곡들 전체 다 쳐야되요? do you have to play everything?

    • @피아노콩
      @피아노콩 4 роки тому

      @@josephsmusicdiary8855 그중에서 하나만 하는 걸로 알고있어요

  • @ClassicalPianoRarities
    @ClassicalPianoRarities 3 роки тому +3

    Wrong tempo.

    • @Hyde2997
      @Hyde2997 3 роки тому +1

      LuL

    • @lisztomani4c
      @lisztomani4c 3 роки тому

      it sounds good, but the pedalling is too mushy and the articulation is single-handed.

    • @GUILLOM
      @GUILLOM Рік тому +3

      Bruh

    • @ericastier1646
      @ericastier1646 Рік тому +6

      wrong comment

    • @edgarreitz7067
      @edgarreitz7067 6 місяців тому

      When this refers to the whole opus: clearly no. Tempi are well balanced and stand to each other in an emotionally certain relation. But i love Gilels recording of the sonata so much, that if there would be only no.1 i would quite agree. Little too hushy for my taste. But the dances sound so fresh! And the alla reminiscenza ... !