One of the nice ways to actually save tons of cash on training - and it is used by some people I know - is to follow this route: 1. Find a couple of friends inclined towards pursuing the same goal 2. Buy your own airplane - a cheap one!
Very real advice in this video. When you were very young, and the other kids were chasing a ball down the street, but you stared dumbfounded at the sky with every passing airplane...need I say more. I began my career in aviation by being a carpenter, a boatbuilder and a sailmaker. Now after thirty years in aviation, yes I'm that old now, I can only look back and appreciate it ALL! If you are a person of modest means and hard working you will realize your dreams. Be prepared to make sacrifices. Keep your eye on the ball, but look up when a plane passes by.
How did you afford so much plz reply I also want to become a pilot but I can't afford and my parents say it's like jumping into fire they think that it's dangerous
Cheers for the Video! Sorry for chiming in, I would love your opinion. Have you ever tried - Rozardner Flying Bird Reality (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now)? It is a smashing one off product for how to get pilot license minus the headache. Ive heard some decent things about it and my m8 after many years got excellent success with it.
Nice Video! Forgive me for the intrusion, I would appreciate your opinion. Have you thought about - Rozardner Flying Bird Reality (should be on google have a look)? It is a good one off guide for how to get pilot license minus the normal expense. Ive heard some decent things about it and my mate finally got great success with it.
You're absolutely spot on with this - I'm towards the end of my own training and its been over 3 years since I started. Without sounding like the martyr of mount finance, it has been a sacrifice - sure I've had a social life (this is very important too, guys. Don't recluse) and I've been on vacations - but it definitely makes it possible if you're frugal and disciplined enough. Oh, work that weekend overtime too. You'll thank yourself that evening.
You were never harsh. It really inspired changed the way i thought about it. Not to say i cant afford to be a pilot but i see where it is easier to get money to finance my training!! With the idea you gave a scholarship and working could significantly reduce the mental burden!
Love this video. Flying is about passion. If you really want to fly, you will make it work. I had my first lesson when I was 31, and got my first job as a scenic flight pilot when I was 42. That year I also had 2 other jobs to make ends meet. I finally got a decent paying job three years ago aged 47 (F/O, Q300). Total spend to get to that point (PPL, CPL, Instructor rating, MEIR) was $135k (This is $NZ, About $US91k), but divide that by the 14 years over which that is spent, and it comes to $NZ185 a week. So that's not too bad. Over that time I very rarely bought myself "stuff"... new clothes, upgraded cars, electronic toys etc. Mostly everything went into flying. All of my friends who were flying did the same...multiple jobs, spend it all on flying. It's all about focus. At the end of the day finding the money is just one part of the puzzle, there are also flight tests/exams/medicals to deal with, as well as dealing with the other parts of your life. Passion and focus. That will get you there!
I always wanted to be a pilot. Ever since i was a kid. Money is the reason that now, in my 30s, im finally doing it. One thing, from my experience, that helps save money? Learn everything you can before you start taking lessons. Become a total nerd. Seek out as much information as you can find and assimilate. That has been a tremendous help to me. From my first lesson, my instructor was impressed by how much i already knew about aerodynamics, the purpose and function of various aircraft equipment, and regulatory fundamentals. Because we didn't need to spend hours teaching me about the very basics, it massively reduced the amount of time we had to spend on fundamentals, and could move straight to maneuvers and procedures. I soloed at 9.5hrs, and am POTENTIALLY on track to be ready for my checkride pretty soon after the 40hr minimum. All because i spent so much time voraciously seeking out and absorbing as much information about what i would need to know as i could, before i decided to actually start the flying. At $150-250 for every hour of flying with an instructor, the less time you have to spend on learning what every piece of the airplane does and how ot works, the faster you can learn how it all comes together and the more money you will save.
Thank you for this video. I am disabled and working on becoming a commercial UAV pilot. I have no money no car. I really needed his inspiration.... spending a ton to get equipped. But it is little by little.
Hello Mario, I don't know if you read comments from older videos but I'm posting anyways. I've heard similar advice long ago but hearing it again (from you) helped me reinforce it, and actually realize it. You helped me to buy my own airplane. With limited resources, the process made me realize that going it alone is a fool's errand. Support is necessary to prevent cheating myself out of money and experience. There were a few people helping me, you included. Thank you. I'm just starting aviation, and there's much more to learn, but I'm excited for the future, no matter how hard it might be.
Great message about being disciplined enough to save. Totally agree. Only spot I got hung up on was cancel your insurance and park your car. So...if you have a job earning money..how will you get to your job keeping in mind not every person watching your video has public transportation system?
I finally got in touch with a flight school here after getting tired of flying in sims and it was a lot easier to afford than I thought. $73 for the first lesson and only $130 a lesson after that (per hour). Another amazing way to save money is to do your ground school at home by ordering the kit so you're not paying for hours in a classroom. The full kit runs about $600 but it is a lot cheaper to pay that up front instead of in the long run.
Sound advice, Mario! To tell you the truth, I too, have a very limited income, but I'm going to do whatever it takes for me to pursue my dream of becoming a private pilot. Even before I watched this video, my attitude towards flying was (and still is) "I don't care what it takes, I'm going to become a pilot!" I don't mind saving up for it either...even if it takes me several years. I couldn't agree more with you... if you want something, whether it's to be a pilot or whatever, the only one who can really stop you is you. I know it's going to be a challenge, but I'll rise up to it. I'm a US Navy veteran qualified in submarines. It took me a little over a year with a lot of studying and proving to my fellow submariners that I had what it took to earn the privilege to be called a US Navy submariner, but my efforts eventually paid off. I will keep the same drive I had when I was working on my submarine qualifications when I do my flight training until it's completed. Those who really want to become a pilot, in my honest opinion, are not going to be offended by your bluntness. Instead, they too, will rise up to the challenge. To me, those who essentially "give up," before they even begin, don't possess the discipline it'll take to become a pilot. Again, great video Mario, you were spot on.
I'm a bubblehead too and have taken an interest in flying. If you made it through the process of earning your dolphins, then you are capable of damn near any challenge life has to throw at you! Bring it on! $$ is the only thing in your way, man. Do what you gotta do.. :)
Nice Video! Apologies for butting in, I would appreciate your opinion. Have you considered - Rozardner Flying Bird Reality (do a search on google)? It is a good one off guide for how to get pilot license minus the hard work. Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my mate after a lifetime of fighting got great success with it.
Love this video man! I'm 20, and have been accepted into two flight schools in the UK. Passed assessments etc. They want to charge around £100,000 for my training - which I don't have :D. I'm currently at university studying Business Management and feel no passion for the course at all. It made me realise that piloting is something I have to do. I had kinda given up on the idea for a while but then I found this. Just saying thanks! You've reignited my passion that I had forgotten about :)
I was 35 and I worked as a checkout team leader at tesco when I decide to realise my dream. I quite my job spend 3500£ on hgv license and become self employed hgv driver. Now I am 38 working constantly with two weeks off since becoming hgv have 30k on my account to spend. It doesn't matter where you are going to do your ppl. I am going to Poland in June will do ppl +100h PIC hours there and the rest in the UK when I get back for that will spend 20k GBP. ATPL theory cost 5k punds for the rest of the training which I will need 30k I am planing to take Remortgage or property secured loan (lower apr) and get it done. 100k is the top UK prices for integrated courses. Teaside aviation Dundee Quoted me 75k for integrated doing modular route with them cost 55k. 14month integrated courses in Spain cost 69k euros (Guaranteed weather) same course in Dundee takes twice as long
Totally 100% True. I did it while married raising 4 small children and in my 40's!! It was my passion and I would not let anything stand in my way. I now am a Corporate Pilot making serious money flying Jets. The sacrifice was worth every penny!!! Great Advice!
Wow....I just started flight school...3 kids...in my 40s...with little money... I'm not sure if I'm stupid or crazy...all for the sake of following my dreams....
Hey, all you did was maturely tell the truth and bring things into perspective. I want to become a pilot but it'll have to wait financially. I have other priorities that take precedence. I like the way you broke things down because what I didn't know is that the pay are in stages like that. In the meantime, I'm playing MSF 2020 to learn some basic with what's what. It's real enough that I can at least start a class not totally ignorant of things. So, thanks for the ADULT perspective. SUBSCRIBED!!!
In Japan, you actually need to walk in with 50,000 USD to start taking lessons that will eventually lead you to a PPL only. Plus, 5,000 USD for admission fee.
I’m doing mine part 61. For those of you looking to become pilots as a career. You can definitely find can find flight schools roughly around: Private pilot - 6-10k Instrument -5.5k Commercial - 8-20k (lower end if splitting time, higher if solo time) Multi engine 5k Do this right and you can get cost down to around 30-35k. Much cheaper than 70k like some other flight schools. Do your research but also make sure you find the right fit for training and how you learn.
I broke my smartphone screen the other day. I've had it for 3 or 4 years now. Paid to repair the screen instead of getting a new phone. Why? Because I'm getting ready to get signed off for solo XC and want to spend my money on airplanes....
I chose to do part 61 found somebody at the local airport that was a CFI with their own plane was able to sign off on all of the ground school portion and paid roughly $5000 for all the flight time of course going along with him on his little daytrip’s splitting the cost, plus headset and maps and testing extra, start off with the PPL and work your way up
The best answer so far... If you really guys want this position badly, than you have to do what it takes ... Otherwise, there will be nothing in the world called ''success''.
There's a difference between wanting to learn to fly and acquiring an instrument multi rating early on. New private pilots simply need to proceduralise tasks so that they'll build experience, not just hours. If finances are tight during primary training, the last thing a student needs is a rating that they won't be able to afford to fly. Instead, find a flight school that is good enough to sign-off students into PIC when they're ready. Those PIC hours are cheaper than dual instruction but you'll be able to hook back up with an instructor to keep things moving along toward a check ride with temp certificate in hand afterwards. Some students go far enough for a supervised solo only. It's the cheapest way. Beware of instruction that builds hours for the instructor but leaves the student on the hook for additional costs. Coming back from a dual cross country only to be told that you'll need to go up again (for poor reasons) is a red flag. Another is private contract instructors that don't actually work for the FBO/School. They can take your money that never actually makes it into the cash register.
I am currently working two full time jobs. Each month i only keep one paycheck for myself and the rest go towards training. Working two jobs is not a necessity for me, flying is. If there’s a desire, you will make it happen!
I have a Sigtronics Gold Wing headset, a Vertex Standard Pilot Air Band handheld transceiver, an aluminum E6-B9 computer by Aero Products Research Inc, if those are still used anymore, a plastic plotter, pilot bag, miscellaneous books, and the King School DVD ground school course, all from fifteen years ago, when I thought I could fly again. I have a little time in my log book from flying during high school four decades ago. If I start studying the King course again, in a few years, when the mortgage and car are paid, maybe I can get back in the air. If ultimately I cannot, at least I have my kayak.
Very true. I have my CPL by now, but I am still building hours towards becoming employable, whenever that will be. Some people get lucky, but by the definition of luck most people dont. The truth is: it is very hard. Emotionally hard. Financially hard. Becoing a pilot (unless you have a rich uncle) is hard as f***, because it really has less to do with learning to fly and 90% to do with learning how to survive in poverty for several years. Im going to repeat that: you will learn to be poor. You will probably lose friends and often feel alone because you can't afford to go out and socialise, and have had to move to the cheapest most boring town you can find. You will walk alone through the desert for 40 days and 40 nights, but you will have that photo of you and your plane after your first solo, and that and all these vids will get you through. Know that there are hundreds of other people going through exactly the same thing you are, and just keep sending out CVs, poking around hangars, and saving for that one flight a week/fortnight. You will look back one day and wonder how you did it. Be strong brothers and sisters. Peace.
My friends dads a pilot and he couldn’t pay for the flight training but what he did is that when he earns money from the job , some of the money he earns is not given to him and instead pays the flight training that he did in the past , which would be easier and once that bill was done he got his full money bills until he retired , he worked for British Airways
EXCELLENT! As a pilot of some 34 years and a few ratings and endorsements...(none commercial) I completely agree with the exception of cancelling car insurance ( bummer if you get caught driving without it:). But...if it is your passion...not just a hobby...tightening your belt...adjusting your spending priorities...and putting flying first spending wise...most folks can come up with the pay as you go funds. There are also commercial flight schools that have financing available IF you want to go that route ( I didn't ). I get asked how I can afford an airplane? The short answer is it is my priority over a fancy car..phone..smoking..bowling..etc. etc. An airplane doesn't have to cost more than a good used car. Example...I have owned several...Tri Pacer..Cygnet..and now a Tailwind W8..all within the last five years.. all for less than 20 grand. There are many more out there for this outlay as well. Short advice...flying when talking about it can seem really cool to the person dreaming about it. Take a couple of introductory lessons and be honest with yourself about your continuing desire. If it truly is there...then maybe you should go out and purchase a conventional bird like but not limited to..a Cessna 150 or 172 and take your flight instruction in your own plane reducing the cost of lessons and to a degree..lessening the investment of your aircraft. In any event....flying...aviating...takes dedication but the rewards are many that words can not describe.
I'm in that same situation, however I think the answer is to work in the US or Canada(where salaries are higher) for 1 or 2 years and then come back to Mexico and get my license (~35k)
I Uber, and the Mrs and I have agreed that I can use those funds for flight training. I wanted to buy a drone the last couple of days. Glad I came across your video to help keep me on track!
No money? Go drive a truck. Companies will pay for your training. 40k your first year, 70-80 your 2and. Stack your money up while eating rice and beans and go fast track your training, get your commercial, and enjoy your pay cut 🤣 (Literally how I'm funding mine)
$80k loan is so high after you graduate. But if you believe in your self nothing is impossible. Declare yourself that you are going to be a Major Airline Pilot. No matter what it takes. 15year loan payment is harsh but.... if you trust your self you can pay off your loan early. After you get your flight Instructor job. You can save up and pay up loans. After that Believe in your self that you will be hired. And you can pay everything that you need to pay. I you really want to be a pilot like he said financial stuffs is one of the things that you need think of. But when you get a job and get hired that financial thing will easy on your part. I'm a sophomore in high school. I know I can't afford to be a pilot. But i know that i really want to be a pilot and i believe in my self that I'm going to do my best to grind and pay off my loan after graduation. Just Believe and pray. God bless y'all future pilots!
Thank you Mr.Mario.Your advice really helps me and I'm also in the same situation like you.I wanna become a Commercial pilot but I don't have a enough money so today onwards I gonna save money from today but I don't care about this how long it takes .But in future I'll definitely become a PILOT.
Bro greetings from Venezuela. Being a pilot has been a dream for me since I was a kid. I was just wondering if I can still have chance for, but just watching this video you've opened my eyes, and also inspired me to achieve that goal. Thank you so much you've helpt me, really grateful. God bless you.
Maybe it was just the flight instructor I had, but I don't know if flying just once a week is acceptable to most cfi's. I eventually had to quit because I could only do once a week but he insisted that we always review because of that. His ethos was that he wanted his students in the cockpit at least twice a week or every other day if possible. I didn't make much progress and eventually it became too expensive. It's not just about having the money but being able to supply it fast enough, or maybe I'm just being overly jaded.
Hi Phillip. I had a student who at 14y/o started working part time while still at school. Back then 16 was the minimum for going solo so he saved until then before starting flying. He kept up the school work and the part time job while learning to fly. He got an instructor job with a big school that taught Airline Cadets and made some good contacts. He's now a First Officer on the A350 with Cathay Pacific. Work hard, plan ahead, talk to people in the industry and you'll get there.
MIG 29 listen, ever since I was 8 years old I have been interested in aviation. So don’t come here and say that it’s too early to dream of becoming a pilot. It has now gone almost a year and I’m still just as interested in becoming a pilot. So please don’t be stupid and think you know everything.
I worked three jobs and one was at the FBO where I was doing my training. I eventually went to work for them full time but not as a pilot. My title was aviation line service. I was taking care of the FBO by myself at times. I also got a discount off of my training if I used an in-house flight instructor and company aircraft. More experienced pilots would come in and I would go fly with them to build time. I did many six hour one way trips just to have lunch or dinner at a specific airport. Yes, some guys really do that.
Wow no comments. Price of flying has definitely gone up significantly. The cheapest aircraft at my school now cost what the most expensive cost 5 years ago. Whatever numbers you see online make sure the rates are shown.
The truth.. I make over $80,000 per year as a linehaul driver for an LTL company moving freight from terminal to terminal. Making $80K, there is NO POSSIBLE WAY I could afford flight training. I had 17 hours of flight time in a C-152 back when I first started driving. I had to QUIT because lessons just got too expensive. (I was doing good too. My instructor didn’t even help or say anything during landings.) That was back when rental, wet wing, and instructor was only $96 per hour. It’s over DOUBLE that today. So, the bottom line is, FLYING IS ONLY FOR THE SUPER RICH. In order to progress well, you need to fly at least twice per week (IMHO). So, you are talking about a bill of about $1600 / month. If you have a home and a car, and utilities, after food, insurance, gas, and day to day expenses, you need a HUGE income to afford $1600 / month. (Don’t forget the cost of physicals, written, exams, renter’s aircraft insurance, etc. Flying is something only the super rich get to do. It is ONLY for the elite. Basically, if you WORK A JOB, forget flight training.
johnyou35 Many would gladly appreciate to be in your shoes... maybe you ought to learn how to spend wisely and save smartly... $80k per year is more than plenty to pay for at the very least, a PPL... you have to be kidding if you can’t afford it still
A degree wouldn't hurt I would think, but not a must in my opinion. I dont know anything about state funded stuff, but... if it costs less and you got nothing to lose maybe give it a try. With the state funded what is the catch?
Some countries have national commercial pilot training academies that offer free training to those who apply and qualify. I think for those who can't afford the 60k dollars to become a commercial airline pilot it is most viable to join the military serve the time and then become a commercial pilot afterwards.
I just soloed yesterday. I'm $7,000 in the hole and it looks like I'm gonna have to put my training in hold for a bit to save some more money. I can't imagine how I'm gonna get another 30g for a commercial rating. Sucks!
This got me motivated. I am just giving it all up for being a pilot but till i watch this video. Btw i am from philippines and i am telling you that earning money here is harder than other states or countries. So my parents have to work to the other country for our dreams and am really thankful and blessed even we were apart we get things through.
Mario you talk about (can I afford to become a pilot,) in your story you like one major player out of your story what if someone cannot pass the FAA health physical test from the doctor's office?
Seriously, there are things you can do if you have the drive. I know several pilots who dealt meth just to pay for training. I even knew one who started hooking. These aren’t the only good options, but you get the point.
Instead you can apply for a fighter jet pilot career and retire from that to become a commercial pilot , it would be easier aswell because you would have more flight experience from your previous job and as Air Force training is cheap , you can earns money while doing that and when you go back to commercial, you have earned lots of money , and the great thing is that you get to fly!
Singing Vibes Really can we do this?? but maybe air force don't allow their pilot to leave easily because they spend too much money in the training of their Defence Air Force Pilots...
That is not how it works. To be a pilot for the military, you have to be an officer. To be an officer you will need a college dagree, if you have one you need to be about top 10% of the classes to even get a plane. With that money you could of just did flight training anyways. And then your experience out of the military will suck since many airplanes are not even rated for certain instrument approaches and you will need civilian licenses anyways.
not everyone can go that route, though. i don't have 20/20 but you need it to be an air force pilot. you don't have that condition for civilian flying, though. just 20/20 with glasses is fine.
Yeah getting in debt for 100k+ to get a frozen ATPL with no guarantee of being able to repay back the loan seems very reasonable. And no, by the time you can save up 100k (more like 130k) you'll be old and unable to get an aviation job(and remember you still will need to get those flights hours up to unfroze your atpl so yeah good luck with that). CPL is 40k, CPL will only get you some banner towing jobs (that are also quite rare to find).
Man that’s the damn truth, the schools for becoming an airline pilot are like 35k or more a year and that’s harsh as fuck. It sucks i know so much about aviation and flying. I just graduated high school and I know the student loans would kill me for going to a aviation school. I’m so lost it’s not even funny.
Flight training seemed impossible for me a year ago, until I started. Exactly as you say, if you really want, you can.
Ministry Of Twang how’s it going
Barabyk I wanna become pilot soo bad ## but I’m still in high school 🏫 and I’m poor
@@warya1289 hahaha me too but Allah is with us walal you're not alone I wanna fly for United 1 day insha allah
Did you gain a scholarship ?
Warya 1 i think i should be a military pilot and transition to commercial pilot which would be easier
One of the nice ways to actually save tons of cash on training - and it is used by some people I know - is to follow this route:
1. Find a couple of friends inclined towards pursuing the same goal
2. Buy your own airplane - a cheap one!
Cheapest airplane you can get is above 40k
So either way I'm fu*ked🤷🏾♂️
Flying Long Range Automated FPV could be a good flight alternative. Cheap to get started. FAA licenses are easy to get.
Very real advice in this video.
When you were very young, and the other kids were chasing a ball down the street, but you stared dumbfounded at the sky with every passing airplane...need I say more. I began my career in aviation by being a carpenter, a boatbuilder and a sailmaker. Now after thirty years in aviation, yes I'm that old now, I can only look back and appreciate it ALL! If you are a person of modest means and hard working you will realize your dreams. Be prepared to make sacrifices. Keep your eye on the ball, but look up when a plane passes by.
How did you afford so much plz reply I also want to become a pilot but I can't afford and my parents say it's like jumping into fire they think that it's dangerous
I always look up in the sky
You will find a way.
That is the answer.
'Life finds a way.'
Cheers for the Video! Sorry for chiming in, I would love your opinion. Have you ever tried - Rozardner Flying Bird Reality (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now)? It is a smashing one off product for how to get pilot license minus the headache. Ive heard some decent things about it and my m8 after many years got excellent success with it.
Inspirational but not true. I wish it were.
Nice Video! Forgive me for the intrusion, I would appreciate your opinion. Have you thought about - Rozardner Flying Bird Reality (should be on google have a look)? It is a good one off guide for how to get pilot license minus the normal expense. Ive heard some decent things about it and my mate finally got great success with it.
I wish
Not harsh at all, thanks for sharing the truth!
You're absolutely spot on with this - I'm towards the end of my own training and its been over 3 years since I started. Without sounding like the martyr of mount finance, it has been a sacrifice - sure I've had a social life (this is very important too, guys. Don't recluse) and I've been on vacations - but it definitely makes it possible if you're frugal and disciplined enough. Oh, work that weekend overtime too. You'll thank yourself that evening.
You were never harsh. It really inspired changed the way i thought about it. Not to say i cant afford to be a pilot but i see where it is easier to get money to finance my training!! With the idea you gave a scholarship and working could significantly reduce the mental burden!
Love this video. Flying is about passion. If you really want to fly, you will make it work. I had my first lesson when I was 31, and got my first job as a scenic flight pilot when I was 42. That year I also had 2 other jobs to make ends meet. I finally got a decent paying job three years ago aged 47 (F/O, Q300). Total spend to get to that point (PPL, CPL, Instructor rating, MEIR) was $135k (This is $NZ, About $US91k), but divide that by the 14 years over which that is spent, and it comes to $NZ185 a week. So that's not too bad. Over that time I very rarely bought myself "stuff"... new clothes, upgraded cars, electronic toys etc. Mostly everything went into flying. All of my friends who were flying did the same...multiple jobs, spend it all on flying. It's all about focus. At the end of the day finding the money is just one part of the puzzle, there are also flight tests/exams/medicals to deal with, as well as dealing with the other parts of your life. Passion and focus. That will get you there!
I always wanted to be a pilot. Ever since i was a kid. Money is the reason that now, in my 30s, im finally doing it.
One thing, from my experience, that helps save money? Learn everything you can before you start taking lessons. Become a total nerd. Seek out as much information as you can find and assimilate.
That has been a tremendous help to me. From my first lesson, my instructor was impressed by how much i already knew about aerodynamics, the purpose and function of various aircraft equipment, and regulatory fundamentals. Because we didn't need to spend hours teaching me about the very basics, it massively reduced the amount of time we had to spend on fundamentals, and could move straight to maneuvers and procedures. I soloed at 9.5hrs, and am POTENTIALLY on track to be ready for my checkride pretty soon after the 40hr minimum. All because i spent so much time voraciously seeking out and absorbing as much information about what i would need to know as i could, before i decided to actually start the flying.
At $150-250 for every hour of flying with an instructor, the less time you have to spend on learning what every piece of the airplane does and how ot works, the faster you can learn how it all comes together and the more money you will save.
Thank you for this video. I am disabled and working on becoming a commercial UAV pilot. I have no money no car. I really needed his inspiration.... spending a ton to get equipped. But it is little by little.
Hello Mario, I don't know if you read comments from older videos but I'm posting anyways. I've heard similar advice long ago but hearing it again (from you) helped me reinforce it, and actually realize it. You helped me to buy my own airplane. With limited resources, the process made me realize that going it alone is a fool's errand. Support is necessary to prevent cheating myself out of money and experience. There were a few people helping me, you included. Thank you. I'm just starting aviation, and there's much more to learn, but I'm excited for the future, no matter how hard it might be.
That is awesome! Good luck 😀
@@PilotEffect Thank you!
Great message about being disciplined enough to save. Totally agree. Only spot I got hung up on was cancel your insurance and park your car. So...if you have a job earning money..how will you get to your job keeping in mind not every person watching your video has public transportation system?
I finally got in touch with a flight school here after getting tired of flying in sims and it was a lot easier to afford than I thought. $73 for the first lesson and only $130 a lesson after that (per hour). Another amazing way to save money is to do your ground school at home by ordering the kit so you're not paying for hours in a classroom. The full kit runs about $600 but it is a lot cheaper to pay that up front instead of in the long run.
At least I got something to lift up my spirit ,special thanks to you...am gonna do whatever it takes to become a pilot☺
You have my spirit
Sound advice, Mario! To tell you the truth, I too, have a very limited income, but I'm going to do whatever it takes for me to pursue my dream of becoming a private pilot. Even before I watched this video, my attitude towards flying was (and still is) "I don't care what it takes, I'm going to become a pilot!" I don't mind saving up for it either...even if it takes me several years. I couldn't agree more with you... if you want something, whether it's to be a pilot or whatever, the only one who can really stop you is you. I know it's going to be a challenge, but I'll rise up to it. I'm a US Navy veteran qualified in submarines. It took me a little over a year with a lot of studying and proving to my fellow submariners that I had what it took to earn the privilege to be called a US Navy submariner, but my efforts eventually paid off. I will keep the same drive I had when I was working on my submarine qualifications when I do my flight training until it's completed. Those who really want to become a pilot, in my honest opinion, are not going to be offended by your bluntness. Instead, they too, will rise up to the challenge. To me, those who essentially "give up," before they even begin, don't possess the discipline it'll take to become a pilot. Again, great video Mario, you were spot on.
Fantastic determination on your part.
Pilot Effect Thank you
I'm a bubblehead too and have taken an interest in flying. If you made it through the process of earning your dolphins, then you are capable of damn near any challenge life has to throw at you! Bring it on! $$ is the only thing in your way, man. Do what you gotta do.. :)
Nice Video! Apologies for butting in, I would appreciate your opinion. Have you considered - Rozardner Flying Bird Reality (do a search on google)? It is a good one off guide for how to get pilot license minus the hard work. Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my mate after a lifetime of fighting got great success with it.
music4ever1981 Did You start flying? I'd be happy to talk with you or encourage you if wanted.
Doran
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The other thing is being able to distinguish a career from something you just think is cool and like to watch videos about on UA-cam now and then.
This one right here.
Love this video man!
I'm 20, and have been accepted into two flight schools in the UK. Passed assessments etc. They want to charge around £100,000 for my training - which I don't have :D. I'm currently at university studying Business Management and feel no passion for the course at all. It made me realise that piloting is something I have to do.
I had kinda given up on the idea for a while but then I found this. Just saying thanks! You've reignited my passion that I had forgotten about :)
I was 35 and I worked as a checkout team leader at tesco when I decide to realise my dream. I quite my job spend 3500£ on hgv license and become self employed hgv driver. Now I am 38 working constantly with two weeks off since becoming hgv have 30k on my account to spend. It doesn't matter where you are going to do your ppl. I am going to Poland in June will do ppl +100h PIC hours there and the rest in the UK when I get back for that will spend 20k GBP. ATPL theory cost 5k punds for the rest of the training which I will need 30k I am planing to take Remortgage or property secured loan (lower apr) and get it done. 100k is the top UK prices for integrated courses. Teaside aviation Dundee Quoted me 75k for integrated doing modular route with them cost 55k. 14month integrated courses in Spain cost 69k euros (Guaranteed weather) same course in Dundee takes twice as long
Thanks man, I've been a PPL for 10 years, tried everything just got to chip away at it...happy landings!
Totally 100% True. I did it while married raising 4 small children and in my 40's!! It was my passion and I would not let anything stand in my way. I now am a Corporate Pilot making serious money flying Jets. The sacrifice was worth every penny!!! Great Advice!
Edward Lopez thank you!!!!
Wow....I just started flight school...3 kids...in my 40s...with little money... I'm not sure if I'm stupid or crazy...all for the sake of following my dreams....
Did you come across any barriers due to your age? I'm starting in a few months(just turned 30) and numerous people have said I'm too old.
Thank you!🙏🏽 You've motivated me
Daniela Polo facts💪🏿💯
Hey, all you did was maturely tell the truth and bring things into perspective. I want to become a pilot but it'll have to wait financially. I have other priorities that take precedence. I like the way you broke things down because what I didn't know is that the pay are in stages like that.
In the meantime, I'm playing MSF 2020 to learn some basic with what's what. It's real enough that I can at least start a class not totally ignorant of things.
So, thanks for the ADULT perspective. SUBSCRIBED!!!
Yup, I stopped saying "I can't" and asked "HOW", then found your video lol thank you for this!
This was very inspirational! This is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you for the great advice!
In Japan, you actually need to walk in with 50,000 USD to start taking lessons that will eventually lead you to a PPL only. Plus, 5,000 USD for admission fee.
In South Africa, You Can Get Your PPL And CPL For 50000 usd. Then Start Working
I’m doing mine part 61. For those of you looking to become pilots as a career. You can definitely find can find flight schools roughly around:
Private pilot - 6-10k
Instrument -5.5k
Commercial - 8-20k (lower end if splitting time, higher if solo time)
Multi engine 5k
Do this right and you can get cost down to around 30-35k. Much cheaper than 70k like some other flight schools. Do your research but also make sure you find the right fit for training and how you learn.
You literally encouraged me to overcome my fears of not becoming a pilot because of money
3:24 That new iphone, new graphics card and that game on steam. HAHAHA thats exactly what I blew I money on.
marryson123 same 😂
Same 😂😂😂
I broke my smartphone screen the other day. I've had it for 3 or 4 years now. Paid to repair the screen instead of getting a new phone. Why? Because I'm getting ready to get signed off for solo XC and want to spend my money on airplanes....
Hahaha same here he forgot csgo skins and its perfect
I chose to do part 61 found somebody at the local airport that was a CFI with their own plane was able to sign off on all of the ground school portion and paid roughly $5000 for all the flight time of course going along with him on his little daytrip’s splitting the cost, plus headset and maps and testing extra, start off with the PPL and work your way up
I needed this!!! Definitely inspiring!
The best answer so far... If you really guys want this position badly, than you have to do what it takes ... Otherwise, there will be nothing in the world called ''success''.
Instructions unclear I still don't have enough money
There's a difference between wanting to learn to fly and acquiring an instrument multi rating early on. New private pilots simply need to proceduralise tasks so that they'll build experience, not just hours. If finances are tight during primary training, the last thing a student needs is a rating that they won't be able to afford to fly.
Instead, find a flight school that is good enough to sign-off students into PIC when they're ready. Those PIC hours are cheaper than dual instruction but you'll be able to hook back up with an instructor to keep things moving along toward a check ride with temp certificate in hand afterwards.
Some students go far enough for a supervised solo only. It's the cheapest way.
Beware of instruction that builds hours for the instructor but leaves the student on the hook for additional costs. Coming back from a dual cross country only to be told that you'll need to go up again (for poor reasons) is a red flag. Another is private contract instructors that don't actually work for the FBO/School. They can take your money that never actually makes it into the cash register.
I am currently working two full time jobs. Each month i only keep one paycheck for myself and the rest go towards training. Working two jobs is not a necessity for me, flying is. If there’s a desire, you will make it happen!
I have a Sigtronics Gold Wing headset, a Vertex Standard Pilot Air Band handheld transceiver, an aluminum E6-B9 computer by Aero Products Research Inc, if those are still used anymore, a plastic plotter, pilot bag, miscellaneous books, and the King School DVD ground school course, all from fifteen years ago, when I thought I could fly again.
I have a little time in my log book from flying during high school four decades ago.
If I start studying the King course again, in a few years, when the mortgage and car are paid, maybe I can get back in the air.
If ultimately I cannot, at least I have my kayak.
Thanks for the tips
Very true. I have my CPL by now, but I am still building hours towards becoming employable, whenever that will be. Some people get lucky, but by the definition of luck most people dont. The truth is: it is very hard. Emotionally hard. Financially hard. Becoing a pilot (unless you have a rich uncle) is hard as f***, because it really has less to do with learning to fly and 90% to do with learning how to survive in poverty for several years. Im going to repeat that: you will learn to be poor. You will probably lose friends and often feel alone because you can't afford to go out and socialise, and have had to move to the cheapest most boring town you can find. You will walk alone through the desert for 40 days and 40 nights, but you will have that photo of you and your plane after your first solo, and that and all these vids will get you through. Know that there are hundreds of other people going through exactly the same thing you are, and just keep sending out CVs, poking around hangars, and saving for that one flight a week/fortnight. You will look back one day and wonder how you did it. Be strong brothers and sisters. Peace.
You only said the truth ! Thank you so much
That was motivating thank you so much
My friends dads a pilot and he couldn’t pay for the flight training but what he did is that when he earns money from the job , some of the money he earns is not given to him and instead pays the flight training that he did in the past , which would be easier and once that bill was done he got his full money bills until he retired , he worked for British Airways
EXCELLENT!
As a pilot of some 34 years and a few ratings and endorsements...(none commercial) I completely agree with the exception of cancelling car insurance ( bummer if you get caught driving without it:). But...if it is your passion...not just a hobby...tightening your belt...adjusting your spending priorities...and putting flying first spending wise...most folks can come up with the pay as you go funds. There are also commercial flight schools that have financing available IF you want to go that route ( I didn't ).
I get asked how I can afford an airplane? The short answer is it is my priority over a fancy car..phone..smoking..bowling..etc. etc. An airplane doesn't have to cost more than a good used car. Example...I have owned several...Tri Pacer..Cygnet..and now a Tailwind W8..all within the last five years.. all for less than 20 grand. There are many more out there for this outlay as well.
Short advice...flying when talking about it can seem really cool to the person dreaming about it. Take a couple of introductory lessons and be honest with yourself about your continuing desire. If it truly is there...then maybe you should go out and purchase a conventional bird like but not limited to..a Cessna 150 or 172 and take your flight instruction in your own plane reducing the cost of lessons and to a degree..lessening the investment of your aircraft.
In any event....flying...aviating...takes dedication but the rewards are many that words can not describe.
I'm in that same situation, however I think the answer is to work in the US or Canada(where salaries are higher) for 1 or 2 years and then come back to Mexico and get my license (~35k)
Fly or fly not, there is no try 🧐... I love this channel! You have great content! Thank you for taking the time to make these!✌️
I Uber, and the Mrs and I have agreed that I can use those funds for flight training. I wanted to buy a drone the last couple of days. Glad I came across your video to help keep me on track!
You are not harsh at all, you are just saying what most people think and you get straight to the point. Thank you for this video 😀
Changed my feelings🤕
Man I love planes❤️✈️
Exactly what i needed to hear
Same
thanx a lot was very good Advice and information .....................!!!
I've been struggling so much in life the only thing that can save me is becoming a pilot but I can't afford it
Zakk Poptani TV being broke is a struggle, finding wealth/financial stability is a struggle... choose your struggle
You are not alone
No money? Go drive a truck. Companies will pay for your training. 40k your first year, 70-80 your 2and. Stack your money up while eating rice and beans and go fast track your training, get your commercial, and enjoy your pay cut 🤣
(Literally how I'm funding mine)
Same here you got your cdl ma’am
Not harsh at all, great video
Brilliant video!!! I am currently on the road to becoming a pilot and sharing my journey along the way :) Such a fantastic career!! Breaking Barriers!
$80k loan is so high after you graduate. But if you believe in your self nothing is impossible. Declare yourself that you are going to be a Major Airline Pilot. No matter what it takes. 15year loan payment is harsh but.... if you trust your self you can pay off your loan early. After you get your flight Instructor job. You can save up and pay up loans. After that Believe in your self that you will be hired. And you can pay everything that you need to pay. I you really want to be a pilot like he said financial stuffs is one of the things that you need think of. But when you get a job and get hired that financial thing will easy on your part. I'm a sophomore in high school. I know I can't afford to be a pilot. But i know that i really want to be a pilot and i believe in my self that I'm going to do my best to grind and pay off my loan after graduation. Just Believe and pray. God bless y'all future pilots!
Thank you Mr.Mario.Your advice really helps me and I'm also in the same situation like you.I wanna become a Commercial pilot but I don't have a enough money so today onwards I gonna save money from today but I don't care about this how long it takes .But in future I'll definitely become a PILOT.
Did you become one?
Bro greetings from Venezuela. Being a pilot has been a dream for me since I was a kid. I was just wondering if I can still have chance for, but just watching this video you've opened my eyes, and also inspired me to achieve that goal. Thank you so much you've helpt me, really grateful. God bless you.
Awesome Video!
Great breakdown, thank you!
Maybe it was just the flight instructor I had, but I don't know if flying just once a week is acceptable to most cfi's. I eventually had to quit because I could only do once a week but he insisted that we always review because of that. His ethos was that he wanted his students in the cockpit at least twice a week or every other day if possible. I didn't make much progress and eventually it became too expensive. It's not just about having the money but being able to supply it fast enough, or maybe I'm just being overly jaded.
Great encouragement dude👍
Thank you so much, yes it is inspiring..
Great video! Seriously. I am dreaming of being a commercial pilot for Norwegian. Im 13 y/o. Thank you for advice and all.
Hi Phillip. I had a student who at 14y/o started working part time while still at school. Back then 16 was the minimum for going solo so he saved until then before starting flying. He kept up the school work and the part time job while learning to fly. He got an instructor job with a big school that taught Airline Cadets and made some good contacts. He's now a First Officer on the A350 with Cathay Pacific.
Work hard, plan ahead, talk to people in the industry and you'll get there.
Darren Williams thank you, very motivational.
MIG 29 listen, ever since I was 8 years old I have been interested in aviation. So don’t come here and say that it’s too early to dream of becoming a pilot. It has now gone almost a year and I’m still just as interested in becoming a pilot. So please don’t be stupid and think you know everything.
Valuable advice!
love your videos man keep em coming I just recently got my ppl and I'm planning on going all the way to the cpl and start a career in the industry
Zackary Fry hey bro gimme your WhatsApp no. Or email address I want to become pilot
Zackary Fry all the best
@@tipu_0074 use google you idiot. He's smart enough to not give out his info in public
Very motivating speach thank you sir i understand now
Thank you.
I live in southern california how can I find a list of the best flying clubs. Im looking at the spot.
I worked three jobs and one was at the FBO where I was doing my training. I eventually went to work for them full time but not as a pilot. My title was aviation line service. I was taking care of the FBO by myself at times. I also got a discount off of my training if I used an in-house flight instructor and company aircraft. More experienced pilots would come in and I would go fly with them to build time. I did many six hour one way trips just to have lunch or dinner at a specific airport. Yes, some guys really do that.
Great advice, thank you so much!
Thank you.
THANK YOU I WON'T GIVE UP!!! I WILL BECOME A COMMERCIAL AIRLINE PILOT NO MATTER WHAT!
Wow no comments.
Price of flying has definitely gone up significantly. The cheapest aircraft at my school now cost what the most expensive cost 5 years ago. Whatever numbers you see online make sure the rates are shown.
I like this guy. He doesn't pull any punches.
Thank you 😀😀
Thanks For the motivation
I know that i am going to make it in the next 6 years 🙌👌🏻
Yes you will!
Would you suggest becoming a pilot for the airforce?
Not unless you really want to. Research.
The truth.. I make over $80,000 per year as a linehaul driver for an LTL company moving freight from terminal to terminal.
Making $80K, there is NO POSSIBLE WAY I could afford flight training.
I had 17 hours of flight time in a C-152 back when I first started driving. I had to QUIT because lessons just got too expensive. (I was doing good too. My instructor didn’t even help or say anything during landings.) That was back when rental, wet wing, and instructor was only $96 per hour. It’s over DOUBLE that today.
So, the bottom line is, FLYING IS ONLY FOR THE SUPER RICH. In order to progress well, you need to fly at least twice per week (IMHO). So, you are talking about a bill of about $1600 / month. If you have a home and a car, and utilities, after food, insurance, gas, and day to day expenses, you need a HUGE income to afford $1600 / month. (Don’t forget the cost of physicals, written, exams, renter’s aircraft insurance, etc.
Flying is something only the super rich get to do. It is ONLY for the elite. Basically, if you WORK A JOB, forget flight training.
johnyou35 Many would gladly appreciate to be in your shoes... maybe you ought to learn how to spend wisely and save smartly... $80k per year is more than plenty to pay for at the very least, a PPL... you have to be kidding if you can’t afford it still
$50000 gets you your PPL and CPL in South Africa.
well said
Really difficult to me, I only get my first formal job out of aviation at 27 years old.
That's awesome advice my question is what do you think about an aviation science degree and getting your flight training at a state funded university?
A degree wouldn't hurt I would think, but not a must in my opinion. I dont know anything about state funded stuff, but... if it costs less and you got nothing to lose maybe give it a try. With the state funded what is the catch?
@@PilotEffect there is no catch, state funded only means there's scholarship and grant opportunities as well as in state tuition discounts
That sounds amazing. Are you planning on the degree?
@@PilotEffect I have to get my initial 40 at my local airport then yes and my Va benefits will cover it
Thank you man i needed to hear that.
Awesome advice! Thank you
It cost 150 000 In the uk what is more when converted in to dollars.
geez that is rough. could be almost anything at 150k.... i guess u really gotta wanna be a pilot at those prices.
Some countries have national commercial pilot training academies that offer free training to those who apply and qualify. I think for those who can't afford the 60k dollars to become a commercial airline pilot it is most viable to join the military serve the time and then become a commercial pilot afterwards.
I just soloed yesterday. I'm $7,000 in the hole and it looks like I'm gonna have to put my training in hold for a bit to save some more money. I can't imagine how I'm gonna get another 30g for a commercial rating. Sucks!
This got me motivated. I am just giving it all up for being a pilot but till i watch this video. Btw i am from philippines and i am telling you that earning money here is harder than other states or countries. So my parents have to work to the other country for our dreams and am really thankful and blessed even we were apart we get things through.
Mario you talk about (can I afford to become a pilot,) in your story you like one major player out of your story what if someone cannot pass the FAA health physical test from the doctor's office?
Seriously, there are things you can do if you have the drive. I know several pilots who dealt meth just to pay for training. I even knew one who started hooking. These aren’t the only good options, but you get the point.
Damn bro congrats on the low f stamp lens....now bump it up to about 3.2
Most inspirational video !!
for a future pilot
That was really inspiring. Thank you!
this was really clear, thankyou
Greatest advise ever! You really helped me out.
GOD bless you thank you
The advice is much appreciated!
If i work as atc how many yrs will it take
Its possible to get a loan specifically for flying training
In Canada I was able to, however it was only 50 percent of the required cost... so that was pretty rough.
Instead you can apply for a fighter jet pilot career and retire from that to become a commercial pilot , it would be easier aswell because you would have more flight experience from your previous job and as Air Force training is cheap , you can earns money while doing that and when you go back to commercial, you have earned lots of money , and the great thing is that you get to fly!
Singing Vibes Really can we do this?? but maybe air force don't allow their pilot to leave easily because they spend too much money in the training of their Defence Air Force Pilots...
That is not how it works. To be a pilot for the military, you have to be an officer. To be an officer you will need a college dagree, if you have one you need to be about top 10% of the classes to even get a plane. With that money you could of just did flight training anyways. And then your experience out of the military will suck since many airplanes are not even rated for certain instrument approaches and you will need civilian licenses anyways.
not everyone can go that route, though. i don't have 20/20 but you need it to be an air force pilot. you don't have that condition for civilian flying, though. just 20/20 with glasses is fine.
On top of that the commitment is nearly 10 years now!
Thanks bro .... u got it right save money work for it I will do it ...... thanks a lot
Thank you for good advice
Majority of people could come up with $10K in a hurry if they had to for an emergency or for something they really wanted.
hahahahaha
Nah
@@christowers7307 I see it done all the time.
@@Robert-po8jn Maybe the people you are around could, I believe you've seen it
Thanks you just motivated me ❤️ and I’m gonna be a pilot one day I’ll try my best
Yeah getting in debt for 100k+ to get a frozen ATPL with no guarantee of being able to repay back the loan seems very reasonable.
And no, by the time you can save up 100k (more like 130k) you'll be old and unable to get an aviation job(and remember you still will need to get those flights hours up to unfroze your atpl so yeah good luck with that).
CPL is 40k, CPL will only get you some banner towing jobs (that are also quite rare to find).
Man that’s the damn truth, the schools for becoming an airline pilot are like 35k or more a year and that’s harsh as fuck. It sucks i know so much about aviation and flying. I just graduated high school and I know the student loans would kill me for going to a aviation school. I’m so lost it’s not even funny.