Dual Basis Example

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  • Опубліковано 21 чер 2019
  • In this video, I show how to explicitly calculate dual bases. More specifically, I find the dual basis corresponding to the basis (2,1) and (3,1) of R^2. Hopefully this will give you a better idea of how dual bases work.
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  • @marcoaraujo__
    @marcoaraujo__ 4 роки тому +26

    I study mathematics at the University of São Paulo (USP), and in this quarantine time I can't go there. My course is very abstract and I have many difficulties to understand the algebraic examples. I'm practicing the English, and you helped me so much in English and maths. Thanks

    • @ericluz6054
      @ericluz6054 4 місяці тому +1

      3 anos depois, eu tô tendo algelin II com a professora Leila no IME-USP e o Dr. Peyam tá me salvando hahahahahaha

    • @marcoaraujo__
      @marcoaraujo__ 4 місяці тому

      @@ericluz6054 Parabéns por ter entrado no IME!!! A Leila é um amor e o Dr. Peyam salva muito!!!
      No fim, percebi que boa parte dessa dificuldade com abstrações era por não ter um propósito claro na Pura e a frustração de pensar "poxa, por que to aprendendo isso?", situação essa que mudou após eu ter migrado pra Estat

  • @apolloo9068
    @apolloo9068 Рік тому +1

    Three years later the video is still really useful, and it will be for years to come! Thanks for taking the time to make it.

  • @pythagorasaurusrex9853
    @pythagorasaurusrex9853 4 роки тому +94

    So long story short: "How to calculate the dual basis?"
    1) Write your basis vectors as column vectors in a matrix.
    2) Invert that matrix
    3) Your dual basis vectors are the row vectors of your inverted matrix

    • @javierpicazo2107
      @javierpicazo2107 4 роки тому

      But id you that how can you get the expression he got?

    • @done7216
      @done7216 3 роки тому +66

      Yesterday i had my linear algebra exam and i literally forgot that dual basis even existed so i didn’t learn it. 10 minutes before the exam started i quickly tried to look if someone made a short video about it but this was the only one i found and i didn’t had that much time to watch it. Then i read your comment and this was the only thing i knew about this topic. Ironically, i had to calculate a dual basis and i did it exactly like you said (it was correct). Now i got the results and i passed it very very close.
      Long story short: without your comment i would have failed the exam and had to redo the class next year. So thank you stranger from the internet, you saved my semester 🙏🏻

  • @cezarionescu75
    @cezarionescu75 2 роки тому +4

    I'm doing my PhD and bachelor degree in physics (at the same time, long story) its nice to revisit old subjects that you taught you understood to find new ways of looking at them. I enjoyed this video a lot, will look at more of your videos and subscribe

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you!!!!

    • @robertbistone5366
      @robertbistone5366 2 роки тому +2

      How do you do a PhD in physics and a bachelors in physics at the same time?

    • @hansbaeker9769
      @hansbaeker9769 Рік тому

      @@robertbistone5366 I knew an undergraduate math major who took just about every graduate course in math as an undergraduate and aced them.
      So it doesn't seem impossible for someone to do both a PhD and BS (or BA) in the same subject simultaneously.

  • @valentinfontanger4962
    @valentinfontanger4962 4 роки тому +18

    As a math student in quarantine, you are now my new hero

  • @61rmd1
    @61rmd1 2 роки тому +2

    very nice and useful video; it is easily transposed on R3 (and on Rn, of course...), with, for example (210), (310), and (011) as basis. It runs without any problem

  • @Paul-jq1wo
    @Paul-jq1wo 3 роки тому +1

    thank you so much. It seems so easy explained like this.

  • @darkseid856
    @darkseid856 2 роки тому +6

    While finding f1(x,y) , you expressed (x,y) in terms of standard basis , that is , x(1,0) + y(0,1) , But why ? In the problem , it's given that beta is our basis , (2,1) and (3,1) . So why didnt we express (x,y) in terms of these basis ?

    • @lynny7868
      @lynny7868 10 місяців тому

      my exact question

    • @student99bg
      @student99bg 9 днів тому

      I didn't understand that too. Also, he said f(x,y) = 2x - 5y is arbitrary, but then he got 2x-5y by not plugging that f(x,y)=2x - 5y information anywhere. He got 2x - 5y just by picking the basis vectors to be (2,1) and (3,1).
      So, I don't understand how is f(x,y) = 2x - 5y arbitrary when he got 2x - 5y by only plugging in the information that basis vectors are (2,1) and (3,1)
      I would like to see an example of a vector expressed with bases (2,1) and (3,1). For instance, I would like to see what happens if the input vector is 11(2,1) + 7(3,1)

  • @navyawhig
    @navyawhig 4 роки тому +7

    ABSOLUTELY AMAZING THANKYOU SO MUCH

  • @nickname6764
    @nickname6764 3 місяці тому

    Thanks a lot for this video!

  • @sumers9396
    @sumers9396 Рік тому +1

    great explanation!!

  • @dgrandlapinblanc
    @dgrandlapinblanc 4 роки тому +1

    Interesting. Thank you very much.

  • @BlackanBlue00
    @BlackanBlue00 4 роки тому

    Thank you this is very helpful

  • @thecarlostheory
    @thecarlostheory Рік тому

    thx you a lot for this exercices. I´m impressed how we can discover the vector of the basis of a function.... each basis of each function must hide a very exiting natural and geometry meaning! i´m so impacient to discover that!

  • @user-lv8xu3ij3z
    @user-lv8xu3ij3z 3 місяці тому

    Thanks so much brother!

  • @RB-jz1rr
    @RB-jz1rr 4 роки тому +2

    Can this problem be solved by not using standard basis, but rather the basis you used in beta? So insead of writing f_1(x,y) = (f_1(x(1,0) + y(0,1)) we would write x and y in terms of (2,1) and (3,1)

  • @lordexa
    @lordexa 5 років тому +21

    I love that positivity, keep it up.

  • @tgeofrey
    @tgeofrey 5 років тому +8

    I love ur devine Mathematician

  • @oli7908
    @oli7908 4 роки тому

    Thank you for this video

  • @rogue6343
    @rogue6343 Рік тому

    Incredible video

  • @sajidhaniff01
    @sajidhaniff01 3 роки тому

    Thanks so much!

  • @santiagogomezpu
    @santiagogomezpu 4 роки тому

    Wonderful!

  • @Ixam13
    @Ixam13 Рік тому

    Thanks mate!

  • @ambrishabhijatya7842
    @ambrishabhijatya7842 4 роки тому +5

    0:21 "Today I wanna sort of garnish it"
    My man be teaching Maths like a michelin star chef cooks dishes.

  • @xichengtang584
    @xichengtang584 3 роки тому

    Hi Dr. Peyam, I have a question about dual space.
    Suppose we have vector space U = P2, polynomials with degree up to 2.
    How do we use dual basis to express functional f(p(t)) = p(6)?

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  3 роки тому

      It’s in the playlist :)

  • @wiloux
    @wiloux 5 років тому +1

    Nice

  • @student99bg
    @student99bg 9 днів тому

    Can someone show me what happens if the input vector is 11(2,1) + 7(3,1)? Can someone calculate it please and show me the steps? I think that will help me clear things up a bit

  • @hammockfinance3028
    @hammockfinance3028 3 роки тому +2

    I was looking for a video on Dual Basis Rule of taxation in the USA. I guess I'm in the wrong place.

  • @NAMEhzj
    @NAMEhzj 5 років тому

    Hey Dr. Peyam, cool stuff, but you probably didn't want ppl to see this yet right? (since it isnt listed)
    It can be seen on the dual spaces playlist right now.

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  5 років тому +5

      I do want people to see it, in case they’re curious (and for my students), but I’ll release it on Saturday

    • @NAMEhzj
      @NAMEhzj 5 років тому +1

      @@drpeyam Ah I see :)

  • @nelsondavidcarbajalcusi9955
    @nelsondavidcarbajalcusi9955 5 років тому +2

    I love you

  • @highermathematics6494
    @highermathematics6494 4 роки тому +1

    B= { 1, x, x^2} how to solve dual basis

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  4 роки тому +1

      It would be {f1,f2,f3}, where f1(a+bx+cx^2)=a, f2(a+bx+cx^2) = b etc.

    • @highermathematics6494
      @highermathematics6494 4 роки тому

      Pls solve this one?

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  4 роки тому

      That’s the solution...

  • @ThemJazzyBeats
    @ThemJazzyBeats 2 місяці тому

    Didn't we just end up computing the inverse of the matrix that has the 2 basis vectors of V as rows ? It seems that the 4 coefficients we solved for ---> f_1(1,0), f_1(0,1), f_2(1,0) and f_2(0,1), are respectively -1, 3, 1 and -2. If we organize (-1,3) as the first column of a matrix and (1,-2) as the second, than that matrix is precisely the inverse of the matrix containing the 2 basis vectors of V as columns. This CANNOT be a coincidence

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  2 місяці тому

      You’re right, it’s not a coincidence and it’s precisely because of what you said!

    • @ThemJazzyBeats
      @ThemJazzyBeats 2 місяці тому

      @@drpeyam We end up inverting because of the canonical basis that forms the identity matrix right ?

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  2 місяці тому

      Basically yes

  • @xnorgate5894
    @xnorgate5894 5 років тому +2

    Um, I'm new here, I just can't figure you out bro. You sound arabic and german at the same time, look indian, what exactly are you?

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  5 років тому +9

      I’m Persian but grew up in Austria and moved to the US when I was 16 :)

  • @sanelprtenjaca9776
    @sanelprtenjaca9776 5 років тому +3

    Please make video in croatian. It is year after historical World Cup 2018 🗺⚽️🇭🇷

    • @user-sj2vg8hb5q
      @user-sj2vg8hb5q 5 років тому

      Croatia lost, so he would have to do it in french

    • @sanelprtenjaca9776
      @sanelprtenjaca9776 5 років тому

      @@user-sj2vg8hb5q No, no. Croatia won our hearts