42:45, ok what the heck are these numbers? 852 died not over 900...the numbers of nationalities also dont add up, there werent even 375 Estonians onboard, but 347 total (of which 62 survived). I know mistakes can happen when making documentaries but thats one big mistake which is quite strange if you ask me...
The boat had no reliable passenger list so the amount of passengers is not fully established. The number you're referring to was published in 1996, two years after this documentary, but even today it's unclear and 2014 an investigation was made which quoted 921 deaths with 1058 passengers when comparing the national criminal police's ID commission list with the official memorial. The Swedish Wikipedia article has a long section about the back and forths regarding number of passengers.
@@Akrob55555 Ah ye that would make more sense....anyhow the number 852 has been going around for so long now as the official number that I still find it strange that even today they would debate about that number.
From Sweden, Gotland: I remember the disaster, it spread in large circles across the Baltic Sea and affected, among other things, Gotland society. The second biggest ferry disaster in the Baltic Sea since the M/V Wilhelm Gustloff was torpedoed by a Soviet submarine shortly after nine in the evening on January 30, 1945, about 9,000 people followed the M/V Wilhelm Gustloff to the bottom of the Baltic Sea. The difference between MV Wilhelm Gustloff and M/S Estonia is that the reason for M/V Wilhelm Gustloff has a simple explanation.
@@RalphHund It was war, therefore they took refugees in as much as they could, but because of the lack of time, they have not been able to record all refugees in this chaos. So yes there were thousand of deads.
@@HaideggeriDon't know. But a small "town" called Lindesberg with about 9000 inhabitants lost 33 people. School catering staff mostly. Conference trip.
@@Haideggeri At least six Gotlännings - Arthur Sigvard Enggrön, 66 years old from Visby, Ulla-Britt Rose-Marie Gutelind, 45 years old from Visby, Elis Clas-Göran Larsson, 40 years old from Visby, Dagny Johny Gustava Stengård, 82 years old from Visby , Kerstin Margareta Stengård-Havossar, 61 years old from Visby, Jan Erik Emanuel Vetterlund, 51 years old from Visby
Hur många gånger tror du inte överlevande berättat samma historia? Det blir ju som ett manus till slut med lite känsla. När de skulle återberätta händelseförloppet för första gången inför haverikommissionen kan jag tänka mig att det blev många tårar.
This documentary is not by (Swedish) SVT but (Finnish) YLE.
In this documentary subtitles are in Finnish, interviewees talk Swedish and Estonian.
I wish I could understand this! It seems like it would be highly interesting.
please add English Subtitles
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Hello from Sweden 🇸🇪
Hade ju vart skönt med svensk text när de intervjuade finska personerna?
Dom är inte finska dom är estländare
@@sweden413galv5 och spelar roll Finska, Estniska svensk text hade varit fint.
@@sweden413galv5 spelsr roll???
@@mikaelfalk2044det är en finländsk dokumentär som sändes i Finland via Yle.
Undertexter är på finska. Intervjupersonerna är svenska och estniska.
Please add English subtitles !!!!
this is very strange that lot of estonian videos dont have subtitles. sad
Väldigt bra och intressant, men med textning på engelska så hade det varit ännu bättre. Tack
42:45, ok what the heck are these numbers? 852 died not over 900...the numbers of nationalities also dont add up, there werent even 375 Estonians onboard, but 347 total (of which 62 survived).
I know mistakes can happen when making documentaries but thats one big mistake which is quite strange if you ask me...
The boat had no reliable passenger list so the amount of passengers is not fully established. The number you're referring to was published in 1996, two years after this documentary, but even today it's unclear and 2014 an investigation was made which quoted 921 deaths with 1058 passengers when comparing the national criminal police's ID commission list with the official memorial. The Swedish Wikipedia article has a long section about the back and forths regarding number of passengers.
@@Akrob55555 Ah ye that would make more sense....anyhow the number 852 has been going around for so long now as the official number that I still find it strange that even today they would debate about that number.
From Sweden, Gotland: I remember the disaster, it spread in large circles across the Baltic Sea and affected, among other things, Gotland society. The second biggest ferry disaster in the Baltic Sea since the M/V Wilhelm Gustloff was torpedoed by a Soviet submarine shortly after nine in the evening on January 30, 1945, about 9,000 people followed the M/V Wilhelm Gustloff to the bottom of the Baltic Sea. The difference between MV Wilhelm Gustloff and M/S Estonia is that the reason for M/V Wilhelm Gustloff has a simple explanation.
9000? The boat only took 1495 passengers.
@@RalphHund It was war, therefore they took refugees in as much as they could, but because of the lack of time, they have not been able to record all refugees in this chaos. So yes there were thousand of deads.
Did Gottland lose any of its people aboard Estonia? There were a lot of swedish victims....
@@HaideggeriDon't know. But a small "town" called Lindesberg with about 9000 inhabitants lost 33 people. School catering staff mostly. Conference trip.
@@Haideggeri At least six Gotlännings - Arthur Sigvard Enggrön, 66 years old from Visby, Ulla-Britt Rose-Marie Gutelind, 45 years old from Visby, Elis Clas-Göran Larsson, 40 years old from Visby, Dagny Johny Gustava Stengård, 82 years old from Visby , Kerstin Margareta Stengård-Havossar, 61 years old from Visby, Jan Erik Emanuel Vetterlund, 51 years old from Visby
Hemskt att hamna i en sån här situation, kämpa slg upp, för att mötas av ett svart,kallt, blåsigt hav, samtidigt som man ser båten sjunka.
Please someone add English subtitles
12:30 är detta Estonias riktiga hyttkorridorer?
Nei. Estonias hyttekorridorer var brune.
You can see clips of the interiors from this channel. ua-cam.com/channels/e8C8sDLVOn2Xp5ruILZYSQ.htmlvideos
You can see her real cabin corridors in this clip " Onboard Viking Sally 8 "
Mannen vid 23 min låter som han läser ett Manus.
Hur många gånger tror du inte överlevande berättat samma historia? Det blir ju som ett manus till slut med lite känsla. När de skulle återberätta händelseförloppet för första gången inför haverikommissionen kan jag tänka mig att det blev många tårar.
I do not understand hurdy gurdy.
Estonia hände aldrig.
SVTs snyft reportage
Nej, det är finländska Yle. Allt är inte svenskt 🙄