University Students DISAPPEAR During Phone Calls
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2023
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► Two university students from distinct corners of the world share an unusual connection. Both of them vanished from the face of the Earth without a trace mid-conversation during a phone call; leaving behind nothing but silence and a trail of unanswered questions....
► University Students DISAPPEAR During Phone Calls
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There are some eerie coincidences in these disappearances, what do you make of them?
I think they were both victims of satanic ritual murder, due to the timing. Between April 15 and May 1st (Beltane, also known as Walpurgis) is a very heavy time for satanic activity. While the 2nd boy disappeared several days before the 15th, they could have abducted him and held him against his will until they were ready to do whatever they may have done to him.
I also get the distinct feeling that the police were in on both deaths. There's nothing that says cops cannot be involved in satanic activity.
I dont think this is that mysterious men over drinking then going near water to relieve themselves then slip in drop the phone shouut in panic has the current takes em over its sad but i think that answers alot more without jumping to serial killer or supernatural that would be very rare serial killers arent super common especially ones with the same m.o. across the world
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@@davidbucky7634it's way more than that dude check out the book a sobering coincidence and David paulides missing 411
Out drinking, disappearing, mysterious phone call with nothing but otherworldly howls, found dead with no wounds in a body of water, suspicious police/community activity. Whatever happened to these two young men is the same thing that happened to Henry McCabe. It makes me wonder how many other cases there are like this.
My heart goes out to those who loved these people.
My thought is that his drinks may well have been tempered with, but what was it? That said, the screaming and uncharacteristic behavior may help with identifying it.
Its weird to me that there would be no other sound but him...that is just freaky.
Agreed completely, the way it was described sounds so ominous
I reckon he was tripping acid balls
Makes me think that it may have been out of depression / self-loathing
@@daveythesearcher agree. He could have been spiked for a laugh. That would explain his unusual behaviour.
I can understand his parents thinking something more untoward, but they are the older generation - they don't really 'get' what these drugs can do to you.
David is the exact same age as me, 39/40.
Would be nice to hear the call
How many times have we heard “His/Her body was found in a area that had already been searched’ just bizarre how this phenomena happens. Both strange cases and the fact that four more bodies where found when the authorities were looking for Dans just adds to the mystery. Great video by the way very thorough 👍
This first case here is in the documentary about the Manchester "Pusher".. andthe description of events that the mother of a David gave was absolutely horrific.
I just can't imagine being in that position where you're utterly helpless while listening to your loved ones demise. Shudder at the thought. There's NO WAY AT ALL that his death was accidental.
I’ve been following this channel for a few years now and it just gets better and better. It’s my favourite ‘mystery’ channel. The graphics, images, music and narration. All combine to make a stunning experience of mystery and wonder.
These two events are spine-chilling and horrific. But are handled here with respect for the families and victims.
Dan never fell into the river. I believe he was abducted, killed, and then dumped into the river at a much later date. The whole scenario screams foul play to me and I think the authorities know much more than they’re telling. This sort of case happens all the damn time. It also never ceases to amaze me how law enforcement will go to such great lengths to not do their jobs and to come up with completely implausible conclusions that don’t match the current evidence. I hope his family gets the closure they desperately deserve.
Random cop: "Yeah let's go with hypothermia" 2nd cop: "but what about the bluntforce trauma?" 1st cop: "bro why you wanna work so hard"
It's horrible when so many "authority" people just don't even seem to care about all of the unanswered questions. Too many things just don't make sense.
These are strange stories. Thanks Adam. Great job.
It never ceases to amaze me how this channel continually glosses over the lifestyles and behaviours of those that disappear and continually point the finger at the authorities, as if it's the authorities that are responsible for the ridiculous antics these people get up to when out of their faces on drugs. Of course, the families of these people immediately blame the authorities themselves instead of facing hard facts about the behaviours of the children they raised. And of course, there was never a conscious decision to get drunk/drugged up, it was always down to 'spiked drinks' as if clubs are full of people wasting good money on pouring drugs into the drinks of complete strangers for no apparent reason.
@@paulwilliams5121 Your opinions are quite valid. However, it isn't any more fair for you to accuse the parents and the victims than it is for them to accuse law enforcement. Neither knows of any proof of illicit problems against the others.
@@patriciajrs46 I'm not sure what you are saying but I will tell you that we are all responsible for our own choices and behaviours once we reach adulthood, and parents are responsible for teaching their children the difference between right and wrong. 99% of the time something bad happens to us it's nobody's fault except the person looking back at us from the mirror every morning. Blaming the authorities for situations we have primarily caused ourselves is weak.
Regarding the Dan Zamlin investigation and cause of death; if I remember correctly, the autopsy report indicated that there was no water in his lungs.
Yeah his mom was saying that drowning wasn't 100% confirmed
@@MissingVoidTVThat doesn't make sense, drowning should be easy to pick up in an autopsy.
These entities are getting bold to take someone talking on the phone.
I'm leaning here, too. Tho the idea that he had a seizure (offered up by another commenter here) could be the case. But ppl dont usually scream while experiencing seizures, correct? The UK case certainly is creepy in the sense that he seemed to see something horrifying advancing on him.
Sometimes people scream when they're having seizures, but I don't believe that was the case here.
@@Jay-n262 Oh, wow. I never knew that. My son never has, so I assumed. 😔
@@nelsaf365 You can scream during a seizure, but not speak. Well, there are types of seizures that don't disturb your ability to speak, but they don't disturb your ability to move either, so they wouldn't really cause you to fall into a river. Anyway, if he fell in due to a seizure, I don't think he'd have made such clear statements. During that kind of seizure, your vocalizations are more like gasps and groans. It's called an ictal cry. The vocalizations can be really loud, as your diaphragm and other torso muscles rapidly contract and spasm, sucking in a bunch of air or expelling it. You wouldn't be able to move your vocal cords and tongue and lips in the complex motions required to make words or even do a normal "scream."
I think what we see as a scream is actually a relatively complex vocalization. The groans and gasps I'm thinking of are much simpler, it's like the simplest noise you can make, just "uhhh" haha. I've had myoclonic seizures myself and this exact kind of thing has happened to me. Vocalization is rare but on a few occasions it caused my back and torso to flex and made me loudly groan. Though myoclonus is not nearly as threatening as grand mal seizures, the main type of seizure capable of making you fall, my understanding is that it has basically the same physiological effects as myoclonus, only longer and potentially more severe. So you'd have even worse fine motor control during a grand mal seizure.
With that said, I would like to propose another hypothesis. Some people with epilepsy can sense when they are about to have a seizure, because the seizure is preceded by certain familiar symptoms, like a sense of anticipation, tingling, stars or flickering in the visual field, headache, all kinds of things really. If you've had 10 seizures and they were all preceded by 30 seconds of those same symptoms, then you'd quickly learn to associate those symptoms with seizures, and if you experienced those symptoms again, you'd immediately interpret them as a harbinger of seizure, and start panicking. And this pre-seizure syndrome is not itself a seizure, so you'd still have intact fine motor control. You'd be able to make some quick preparations for the seizure, for example. You'd be able to warn the people near you and explain what's about to happen. For most people, seizures come on abruptly without warning, so this is a minority of sufferers, but it's still pretty common. Idk the exact statistics but you hear about it quite a lot. So it's not outside the realm of possibility that he felt a seizure coming on and started screaming in anticipation.
Still, it's a bit of a stretch. If there was an easy mundane explanation for these cases, they wouldn't get so much attention online. At least to my mind, these cases really cry out for a supernatural, paranormal explanation. The presence of GHB is weird for sure. It obviously points more in the direction of homicide. But humans would not be able to abduct someone without making a sound or leaving a trace, nor would they be able to dump a body in a river that's being actively searched for bodies without anybody noticing. You'd think a human with this level of mastery over the murderous arts, who's able to silently abduct a man while he's on the phone, would just bury the bodies in the woods, or completely disintegrate the bodies. Someone could just drain the blood into a toilet, cook all the flesh to feed to a dog or throw away, crush and grind all the bones into powder and flush them down the toilet. Only the bones are really recognizable as human, and those can be ground into dust. And there are plenty of other disposal methods. Point being, if you had the ability to commit such a perfect murder, why would you dump the body in a river that's already being searched/surveilled by the police?
The fact that the body was found in the river does point to accidental drowning, but there's so much else that points away from it. So when I hear these stories, the image that appears in my mind is demons or aliens or some kind of malevolent supernatural entity. I can't wrap my head around that either, but it's just the only image that fits all the data points.
@ToxicallyMasculinelol Sorry, didn't read your entire reply. My son suffers from absence seizures. He talks, albeit slower, during them.
Fun fact, you can drop electronics into water and they should short circuit, but won't have their components irreparably damaged... most of the time. It's when you apply an additional, external source of electrical current while the device is wet that will fry it. So you can pretty much dunk a laptop into the water and as long as you don't try powering it up or putting in a charger it will be fine once it completely dries.
Old news, the Navy washes their circuit boards just like anyone washes their laundry.
Yes and no, if it dries but leaves residues it can still short circuit when you power it up
Put it in rice 😆
That's something I do when I clean extremely dirty circuit boards.
Man, I've never heard of this first case. It's so much like the case responsible for "Brandon's Law" in the USA + the other cases where people had GHB found in their system
That sounds so horrific for the parents, and just so utterly bizarre. It makes no sense for them to hear a single yell, and no splash. .
These cases are gonna make me lose sleep
Looks like someone spiked his drink with GBH or another substance ?
Yeah it actually is very reminiscent of the case that caused Brandon's law, completely agree
@@MissingVoidTV. Brandon Law...was it the guy who was yelling « they’re after me! » before disappearing in the wilderness ?
Those cases are all drug related, willingly or not. The victims had hallucinations and wandered off to their death. It is so very sad on so many levels. It is unbearable to listen and to think « I hope that it never happens to my children or my grandchildren ».
I wish healing to the families.
@@littleredwitch But there was more to it to simply conclude it was hallucination. He was running and gun shots were hurt in phone call. Also there was heard other voice talking. Phone call is online, its not very clear but other voice is heard saying stop or something like that
@@littleredwitch Brandon Lawson, disappeared in Minnesota. He was walking through a field on the phone with his parents. Everything was fine and then outta the blue he Screamed Oh Shit!! and the phone cut off. He was in a different area than he thought so he gave his dad bunk directions... They found his car in a ditch and.SAR searched with dogs for over a week and NO sign of him was EVER found! People still look for his remains until this day but nothing has ever turned up....
I never understand why they use "the legal driving limit" as a threshold. That does not mean a lot of alcohol. The whole point of the legal driving limit is that it is low, and you aren't drunk. It's not illegal to have that much alcohol, it's only illegal to drive past that limit, which again, is very intentionally a low threshold.
Many young men have gone missing along Manchesters canal.
One day a had a soccer game. While we was playing I noticed that the sky changed his colour. It was suddenly blue, purple and pink. When I looked around everyone disapeared. No sound. It was silent. I was so afraid and walk the feld. I wanted to go home. It wasnt far away but something told me not to do that. After a while everything turned normal. No one noticed my disapearence. Thy sky was blue again. I still dont know what happen on that day. But i know someone was watching me.
I would love to hear more details if you don't mind how long were you gone ? What was weather before u wére gone? While u were gone ? When u came back ? What time of year ? Anything else u didn't mention please
@@thatvampirelorraine I played soccer from 2003 until 2005. I think it happen Summer 2004. I soccer game always was on Saturday or Sunday morning at 10.30 o clock. It happend before the half time break. I think it was 11.00 o clock. One game was only 60 minutes not 90 Minutes. The wetter was beautiful blue with some clouds and then it changed to that purple pink blue. It was dark. So i looked to the skys. And when I looked to the game I noticed thst everbody disapeared. No noice. But everthing looked exact the same. I walked the feld and get panik. I wanted to walk home but this voice in my head said no. I only took view steps from the feld if there is someone there. But nobody. It felt like i was there for one hour maybe? When i stood on the place where i noticed the change. I was suddenly back. But nobody noticed my disapearance. I think i disapeared only for 1sec. But I think this only happen in my mind maybe. That my body never left the place? I dont know. I still dont know what happen there.
Don't they have to find water in the lungs to determine if someone has drowned? It just seems crazy to me that they couldn't say for sure. I feel so bad for their family and friends. The not knowing is the hard part I'm sure. May they rest in peace.🙏
Yes they absolutely find water in the lungs if someone drowns. A lot of these cases the person is found in bodies of water with no water in their lungs and the cause of death is unknown. There's another case exactly like the first case in this video, and the man's name was Henry mccabe. He was out drinking with his friends just like Dan and after drinking throughout the night there was a point of separation from his friends just like with Dan and the friends for some reason left henry at a closed gas station in the middle of the night without his keys or wallet, even though they described him as being very intoxicated... He still had his phone now and called his wife twice but she was sleeping and he left her two horrific voicemails, the police released parts of the voicemails you can find them if you search for Henry McCabe's voicemails on UA-cam, henrys wife describes the voicemails the same way Dan's mother described the phone call, there was howling and screaming and at points he was crying but there was no other background noise and no other voices for the duration of the voicemails.... When they eventually found Henry's body he was also found in a body of water but yet he had no water in his lungs and he had no wounds, no obvious signs of trauma and nothing to indicate why he was screaming or howling or crying and those voicemails
Actually I'm sorry I just looked up the case I was talking about and it oddly says the exact same thing. It says "Henry McCabe's likely cause of death was fresh water drowning". Extremely strange bc these 2 cases are the only times I've ever heard "likely cause of death". When someone drowns it's obvious so I don't understand this. I also just read that in other parts of the voicemail he claims to have been involved in an altercation and was shot but when his body was found there were no gunshot wounds.
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First of all, Cheers, Adam, and thanks for another great video!! 😊
Dan’s case: “Your son was a very troubled young man???” How the heck does that cop know THAT?? And who says something like that to a MOTHER?? 🤦🏼♀️I’m sorry but that comment in itself is suspect. What does that cop know? The facts in this case plus his comment to Dans mom make me think the cop is protecting someone. Fishy. As in; this smells like something’s being covered up.
My ❤ goes out to both these young men’s’ loved ones. And I hope some intelligent detectives deserving of the title take a second look at these cases and mb bring some closure to the poor families.
These cases are now worldwide. My son is a police officer in Russia and they have the same disappearances of young male uni students.
I think it’s the same entity that is hunting people in national forests.
Perfect thing to listen to for the 30 min drive to visit my parents for the weekend. Best damn channel of its kind, in my opinion. Been subscriber/patreon member for over 4 years now, and you have yet to disappoint.
I Absolutely Agree. For 4 years He has been my favorite channel. I still listen to the older videos each night. Some U know word for word😊 Thats just how good his content is🎉🎉🎉
The case about David Plunkett reminds so much of the case of Henry McCabe. It is bizarrely and eerily creepy how the cases have the same screaming and howling and they both apparently "drowned"
Thank you Top Mysteries for another fantastic video. Bravo!!❤
I agree!
@@candyrain09able hell yeah! Found the channel I think early / mid 2019. Really liked it, but had only watched a handful of episodes, because I was busy doing /watching other stuff.. but once covid hit/ quarantine started... Binged every episode, more than once.. really helped me get through early quarantine days.
And yeah, it really is eery as hell. And the whole bodies always turning up any areas where they've already thoroughly searched multiple times, is just... Well, to say it's a weird / creepy would be a massive understatement.
This channel, Beyond creepy and Bob Gymlan are without a doubt my favorite UA-cam channels. A lot of it is actual documented cases, but yeah, if you're into mini UFO and alien sightings / experiences, strange cryptid personal experiences, other paranormal stuff, timeslip/reality shifts, etc, Beyond creepy is beyond ANY doubt, the ABSOLUTE best channel of its kind. Bob Gymlan is pretty much about sasquatch/bigfoot stuff, if you're into that. He looks at it all critically and quite analytically.. he's actually super credible... watching his stuff makes me feel far less of a weirdo/nut job for believing or at the very least believing in the POSSIBILITY of sasquatch. Seen many comments on this channel from people saying they were complete skeptics, but just from watching many of his videos, they became very open to the idea/ possibility.
Know you didn't ask, but figured since you are as much of a fan of this channel as I am, I might as well mention those 2. The missing enigma is a pretty good channel, too.. I'm sure since you've been subscribed/viewer of this channel as long as I have, you have most definitely seen it, or at least know if it, already ..so don't need to recommend that haha
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Regarding the first guy who disappeared near the River, I remember hearing about that incident long ago & the fact that were several other ppl who disappeared with similar circumstances nearby a river, later being found in the river days after the river had been searched making it appear that the victim had been placed there after they died. There was also a lot of suspicion directed at the police & the mortician's verdict about all of the victims had died by accidental death with no traces of any violence done to the victims to prove if they were criminal acts.
Yep! Manchester Canal Deaths! ALL written off by authorities as NO foul play!! BULLSHIT!!!
There is another very similar case where guy was dropped on some convenient store/gas station at night after drinking with friends n was walking back home but never showed up n next day his wife realized she received a voice message from him last night with his frightened screams like he is being attacked or something n after some days his body was also found in river...that voice message was also released but one couldn't even hear it due to horrible screaming n strange noises being made by him...really unexplained like these cases...
I think top mysteries might have covered it
The Henry McCabe case?
Perhaps! Getting s drunks not such agoods ideas for us all's !! As it leaves are smarts delightful amazing brain s behinds us all's ! As we wake up s are heads apoundings the next day ! That's ifns we haven't become victim s of fouls plays murders or self inflicted fate s !! As we are vonnerables drunk's !! Darlins!!!!!!❤️💜❤️💜💜❤️🤩
Yes, that one was creepy!!!
Yes! That's what hes thinking of! Imagine being his poor wife! And she missed the call cuz it was about 3 am. She'll forever feel terrible that all of that was left in her voice mail... just fucked
Yes that vm was so creepy
Whenever I hear stories about this kind of indifference and incompetence all I think about is some of the offices are involved in the cover-up
SHABOOOOOM!! You hit the bullseye with this comment!!
Same here!
Im not joking I always thought this too!!! I'm so glad someone thought the same regardless of whether it's possible. ❤ thanks
@@wendycregan2147 it’s elementary
The police have been infiltrated by several groups
“The most dangerous thing to a good cop is all the other cops”
If it is an accident, then they don't have to investigate. Waste of time, money and resources with virtually no chance of success. Easier for the Law to ignore it altogether.
Being diabetic, indeterminate cause of death, high levels GHB, strangely reappearing, decomp not matching the exposure/elements, esp the distressing sounds like Henry McCabe… shall I continue? We simultaneously somehow know what happened yet have no clue whatsoever what happened. Highly disturbing and just so sad, esp that they had to hear it.
These cases invariably make the investigating agency look like incompetent fools. The best analogy I can think of is this:
It’s like a group of fish trying to locate a missing fish. They search the whole pond and turn up nothing. The missing fish was last seen chasing after something shiny & another one saw him being yanked toward the surface & never seen again. They can’t possibly comprehend what happened without knowing what a fishing pole and lure are.
That’s a really good analogy! I believe it’s something paranormal and unfamiliar to our reality. I think these young men are mysteriously put into a trance by some nefarious, unseen entity and lured away from safety, often into the woods or water. GHB is usually found in their system and their shoes are always missing or taken off, along with other bizarre circumstances. Feels like a missing 411 case
Very odd and tragic. Wonderfully presented as usual. Loved the eerie drawings. Your storytelling is brilliant.
So many unexplained deaths, in which the bodies are found but cause of death cant be determined. The fact that David's parents heard him screaming and tyen nothing,makes me wonder if these people are dying of fright for some reason.....
He was so drunk he drowned but there’s no evidence of “substance abuse.” The cultural double standard towards alcohol is just mind blowing to me.
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I'm almost outraged. Almost.
Recreational drinking does not mean someone has a substance abuse problem. Young adults sometimes drink too much until they learn.
If a person drowns in a fast flowing river and get wedged into under rocks and branches, the force of the water keeps them wedged until the gases from decomposition causes the body to rise. Makes perfect sense to me. I trained in college to be a mortictian, worked in funeral homes for years, and am also getting ready to retire from a 25 year career in law enforcement and also had over a decade with a local fire department. I live and work in an area with a prominent river and many other bodies of water. Just saying.🤷♀️
@louiciousthewerewolf4819 Not necessarily. There is a phenomenon called dry drowning, where the body will cause the lungs to spasm to prevent water entering them.
They have to start checking for ghb in toxicology tests for autopies.
Agreed, I wonder just how regularly they'd find it with these water related cases in population centres
Absolutely especially in these very strange cases.
Now my day is complete, much love.
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This is just bloody creepy
My drunken night 8 years ago in Manchester when I got massively drunk and woke up next to the canal is now not as funny to me ! Great channel I’ve been listening a year now keep up the good work
You don’t remember anything?
@@ambergrislo1070 unfortunately not it’s the only time ever with no memory so if I was spiked or not I don’t no but I don’t drink anymore so it’s all 👍
Was Dan at a hockey game? Bc I remember a case so similarly bizarre with it being possible that the gf drove by the victim
Very tough on loved ones left behind. Thank you for raising awareness on both situations 😢
Sounds similar to the Henry McCabe story - one of the scariest things i’ve ever heard. He was on the phone with his wife on a rural road at night walking home when attacked - the whole thing had been recorded
That is some of the freakiest screaming I have ever heard! Henry sounded inhuman! I replayed it a dozen times and each time a serious chill ran down my spine!!
Some think he might have been tazered by cops.
I'm not even f*cking joking, but I said the EXACT same thing to my mum who was listening too. Thanks mate :D
@@markpettie681 if you’ll listen close the trilling sound you hear is not Henry but the entity that is attacking him
@@earnold1896 there were no signs of tazering on body - coroner only found large amounts of GBH which is used to render someone frozen and unable to move but fully awake
The 2nd case, there were lawsuits, rumors and allegations made about student abuse at that school… it’s a Catholic school, with a church on the grounds, with a full clerical staff… so you know where I’m going. But also student on student. Other true crime channels have brought this point up, because apparently some of the students were investigating and made it sound like the missing student was part of this group and “knew something” and that’s the real reason he was disposed of. Rumors and Allegations I said!
Sounds like a satan worshipping cult , maybe freemasons.
Crazy to think these things keep happening + terrifying.
Tfsharing these videos.
Have a great weekend.
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Most welcome Nancy, and you too, have a good one 👍
It is clear that alcohol played a decisive role in both disappearances. RIP boyos
FYI everytime you make a cell phone call your phone sends your GPS location to the tower and if you are moving it tracks you to hand off to another tower.
It doesnt send a gps signal to the cell tower, thats completely different type of signal. When you use your phone it connect to the cell towers nearest to you. This can be used to triangulate your estimated location at the time of the call. Usually an area not an exact location. Gps works using satellites
I mean, his parents were witnessing behavior they were unfamiliar with in their son. Whiskey and the like at high levels is a quasi hallucinogen.
Whisky is not a hallucinogen
Awesome as always thanks
Great job on this video.
Well done telling these stories.
This was enjoyable thank you
You do good work and thank you
Another excellent video done with great professionalism and class!! BIG LOVE BRO✌
Thank you for another great video ❤
Most welcome, thank you
I was thinking about the first case. If you had been drugged with GHB, you may have been paralyzed, this might explain why he chose to scream and cuss. It was the only defense he could employ.
Love this channel ❤
Excellent channel loved it!
Oh, and insensitive cops are a prerequisite in American life.
Wouldn't an autopsy have determined if he had drowned or not though if his lungs had been full of water wouldn't they have been able to detect it
That's my understanding, which makes the confusion all the more unusual
Adam, you have a great voice, accent, and manner of speaking for this type of video. Looking forward to the next one.
Another great video...
Top Mysteries is the best channel covering mysterious disappearances
It's incredible that so many of these young men (and they're almost always men) find themselves separated from the friends they were with at the club as well as being ejected from the venue. If they weren't causing any disturbance and 90% of the time they're not, why were they kicked out? And if this young guy's mother was able to contact him on the phone, why didn't he answer the phone when (I assume) his friends tried to contact him? Better still, why didn't he call his friend as soon as he found himself outside so he could let them know where he was?
I'm so happy to see how fast your channel has grown congrats. I enjoy your work very much and have been a sub for 5 years? Thank you so much Adsm
Some weird stuff goes on in Manchester, which is disquieting because one of my daughters' lives there....
People underestimate the recklessness that goes hand in hand with drunk dudes. The smiley face killer, etc is a reach.
They brought problems on them selves and are very ignorant about alcohol
Such sad stories.Condolences to both families😢❤
Surely an autopsy would be able to determine how long the body was in the water for?
Not really, an educated guess if anything
Yessss. Life is perfect for these few moments
Not for these victims and their families.
Good video
Abducted, abused and then thrown into the water. A complete coverup or lazy police because so many are actually being killed in this way in USA and UK with many, many missing cases and they are neglecting to recruit more officers for the missing and murdered and truth rarely is being heard in these cases too. I wondered if the families actually saw the torso of the bodies after death and it calls out to me foul play. The family was right to question this because both men were afraid and in fear.. what would make one feel so much fear in there situation. I hope the families find answers.
I also would like to add that if one is in fear they would not howl but just scream and swear and the howl could well of been something that was actually abusing him.. shock trauma/scared to death also kills yet often is not detected. So sad yet i would want to see the body for too many cases like this are covered up. My conclusion is, 'he among many others had been scared to death.
Love your channel and Love it when you say, "Good actual Lord!" Cracks me up every time!
The first case with the person screaming and or howling. I wonder if he suffered a very severe concussion? I had a child who did and at times would have ungodly screams every 3-5 minutes and she couldn’t talk during this time until we brought her in to the hospital where they were able to get her pain under control. Finally after a hour or so she started talking a little. It was crazy that her pain was so bad she couldn’t talk at all.
These videos are freaky after watching them i can't stop thinking about them all day, wish i had some kinda vision powers so i could go out and be able to see what really happened them
What is actually happening with these "young"?
I wonder was a thorough autopsy done on them?
Something weird is going on...there's too many cases...and the similarities makes you think that they're not random.
My heartfelt prayers goes out to their families.
Do we need to put some type of tracker on our family members?
Too many people are going missing to not start questioning why.
Stay safe out there please.
I know how weird this sounds, but it's as if there's some sort of "being" or entity among us thats yet to be discovered, and the only clues are incidents such as these. Scary thoughts either way.
Poor young men disappearing without a sound. Families going through that, not knowing what happened.
Maybe someone put drugs in his drink....he may have been hallucinating...just a thought...
Many of these missing & murdered individuals are encountering something I think might stretch the limits of our imaginations. Are we even dealing with a human culprit in some of these cases? When a person is under attack, it tends to come out in their language: “Stop/Who are you/Stop touching me/Take my wallet/Leave me alone”. Instead, an unearthly howl, and no sound at all from the attacker.
The best answer is usually not the paranormal one, but there are too many uncomfortable questions. (Listened to the entire Henry McCabe voice mail. One of the few pieces of audio I’ve ever heard that induced goose-bumps and chills)😢
What it is with people taking their shoes off?
Both cases are very sad! It seems like both men were frightened to death by something, whether real or imagined. Supposedly, GHB affects o nly last about 12 hours. I suppose it would be possible they would fear people looking for them. Every one responds to drugs differently, especially with alcohol. It's possible that some rare interaction occurred, leavingvthem un able reason or even suffer anesthesia? They may have entered the water and successfuly got down the river a ways.... but honestly it is far more likely that they were drugged for a reason? Or there would have been more persons affected those nights.
Holy moly super weird poor souls😳
They could be what's left of the Cynocephali.
Isn't the 1st one from Manchester pusher?
i think they were drugged and pushed in the rivers.
The first case sounds remarkably similar to the Smiley Face Killer teheory that happened in America.
Thought the same thing.
It probably was actually said! The police officers are always very busy. They just want cases closed. Their case-loads are very many.
If he "just got drunk and slipped into thevwater" Then why would he scream that way. It was not normal. Something made this man, and Henry McCabe, scream in such unusual and horrifying ways. Check out his case too. They are way to similar. Someone or something is taking these men. Government testing then putting them back...who knows. But these are not natural deaths. They are not simply falling into the water.
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Edit. Both David's and Dan's cases are entirely consistent with the Smiley Face killings inthe US. And, yes, it seems like they were dosed.
Creepy,, defo something odd going on
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Its obvious you havent had ny dealings with American law enforcement. My cousin went missing 17 years ago and the local law enforcement sent about one day looking. To this day i still spend my free time walking the woods looking for her remains.
These sounds super creepy! 😮
Drugs. Bad tripping.
As someone that lives in an area with a dozen bars about a block from the Mississippi River, even if it’s difficult for family to accept, intoxicated people fall in water a lot. The police in Dan’s case were callous, but I believe they said it.
Wouldn’t someone else have heard the screams of either guy. Weren’t they close enough to civilization that someone else should’ve heard the screams? Both are very similar to Henry McCabe. I have heard part of that voicemail and it is utterly frightening!!!
The first story reminds me of the gentleman that was accountant United States, and they found his cell phone, but sorry, they have recording of him screaming on his cell phone and he was found dead later. Do you guys remember that
Smthg definitely weird happened with his disappearance, I'm curious to where do they go..the gvmt has to know what's going on.!!🤨🤔
For me its quite obvious that if someone vanishes without a trace and there are bodies of water in the near, they Fell into the water and drowned. Heck, here in Germany a few years ago an old Lady vanished in a public bathing Lake, only her stuff Was found on the beach. No trace of her until she, Well, washed up 2 or 3 years later in the same lake she vanished from, dead oc. Police said that she somehow got under an underwater landslide or so and was sucked under water and buried under soil.
//edit: Looked it up. It Was in the German City of Rodgau. Went missing 2017 and the corpse resurfaced 2021.
Wow that's weird isn't it! I wonder what stage of decomposition she was in.. do you know?
@@jackbuff_I the reports Do not state anything about that. But the body floated on the water, so I assume it was decomposing. It was in the City of Rodgau, the woman went missing 2017 and resurfaced 2021. I think wherever under water she was, there was not much oxygen, so the body didnt decompose very much. For some reason, after a few years oxygen reached the body and the decomposition began, thus, she resurfaced. The employees were quite shoked, oc, especually because she went missing under mysterious circumstances (her stuff was still lying on the beach, no one saw her leaving etc.)
IMHO most of the missing 411 are in some Kind of body of water.
Maybe these cases are part of the missing 411 phenomena xxx just a thought
I left a party at college early in the morning completely faded. I remember nothing. I feel lucky I made it back to my apt.
First one sounds like badly injured himself in a fall of some kind and ended up sliding down into the water where he drowned
That brought back a memory for me your first story gave me a feeling I was forgetting something then the full version brought the memory back. I was 13 at school it was lunch break and I took a few steps then pow I was running down a woodland path with a boy ahead of me he stópped turned and said who are you ? I turned and ran back up the path to where I first appeared then just like that I was back in school yard. No one noticed but it was about 30min I was gone but being in a specific place to vanish and then the same to return ! No one notice but for the next hour or so I felt really spaced out and very confused as to what happened and how but moving to a specific place was of paramount importance!
Perhaps he walked into a dimension that was opened by something else on purpose, and could still be heard and he saw what was there and was horrifed and shocked.
Portals, big 🦶, skin walkers, aliens, lockness monster, Thunderbirds, this community really need to tone it down.
There was another case like this in the USA, an African immigrant got drunk and was walking through a regular neighborhood, talking on the phone when he suddenly because making these INSANE sounds. At some point the sounds stopped and we just hear another voice say calmly 'stop' or 'quit', I can't recall but what ever is happening, I'd think twice before getting loaded and walking out and about.
"surely, usually, he would never"..🙄 All i see here is two wasted people who fell in the river and a ridiculous attempt to build a mystery out of nothing
I think the second case a number of young men vanished then were found in local rivers
Im having hard time with this “Oh well, he was drunk & troubled, he simply drowned”-situation. Sure, it happens, but why not investigate every case like its your own child? Same with suicides, its not always what it seems and gets determined too soon. Family & friends deserve answers, in order to move on.
Because it's easier for them to just say he did it to himself. If he was murdered then they'd have to look for the murderer and that's just too much paperwork lmao
@@visassess8607 Yeah, doing the work youre actually paid to do, is just too much..
I remember a case from Denmark (or Sweden?), where the cops decided in 15 minutes it was a suicide and left the family with million questions. Former detective & FBI profiler re-opened the case, surprisingly it really was a suicide (guy jumped from the 3rd floor window, very odd). Both were pretty vocal about the OG investigators for not doing more thorough investigation, nothing should get resolved right on the scene, certainly not before coroners report and final look at the evidence. But at least they found out the missing answers to the family, who werent sure you can even die like that. One full day instead of 15 mins, and the ones who are left behind, dont have to spend their lives wondering what really went down.