Jim called out every piece he believed actually happened from all the stories together. With his experience in the wrestling business he can see right through all the bs, yet people still think he’s a senile old man
So this "attack" that was so violent that Tony and others feared for their lives resulted in Jungle Jack not having a scratch on him? Great reporting, Dave!
I feared for my life once but it wasn't because someone lunged for me oh no I working in a shop and three guys came in with shotguns and robbed the place now that's fearing for your life TK is and will be a pussy
My favorite part of the story is that Dave had to throw in that Jungle Boy successfully defended himself after like 6 different versions of JB getting his ass handed to him
You may notice, Dave decides to tell multiple stories about Brodie King too. None of which make him look good. Is it a coincidence that the 1 guy tight with Punk gets the Metlzer/Punk treatment of 12 different versions, all of which make him look horrible? These guys know EXACTLY what they are doing.
@ThePlayaJohn Brody King broke his hand and possibly wrist when he was angry with Punk/JB situation WHICH Brody refuted Uncle Dave report by saying he only kick the trash can and hurt his hand in the match instead of punching the wall
@@Saddler1944 90% of failed UFC fighters would beat up 99% of todays “stars” so that’s more of an indictment of the industry and its willingness to allow so many fans in the ring without the fan earning the privilege to be in there.
Because he fought manlets like Twinkle Toes, the Hardly Boyz, and Jack Fairy. Have him pull his shit with Powerhouse Hobbs, Samoa Joe, Miro, and/or Wardlow. Let's see how tough he really is (spoiler: he isn't). Do you know why WWE was the only place he ever worked where he DIDN'T get into fights? Because, for one, Vince and Undertaker didn't put up with his bullshit. For two, during his time, it was full of legitimate tough guys, not the scrawny weaklings of today. But, Chump fans are as delusional as Twinkle Toes and Hardly Boyz fans, literally will contradict themselves intentionally just to worship their favorite cancerous shit head.
Tony's "disciplinary committee " meeting probably went like: "Punk poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague unto our houses! " "He did? " "No! But are we gonna wait around until he does?! "
Man, I love how the "Elite" crony who fed Dave the fake story, absolutely HAD to include that Punk's supposed punches were oh-so clumsy and ineffective. I can practically see the Cucamonga clowns dictate it word for word. "...And don't forget to put in there that the guy who knocked me out in the dressing room at "All Out", _totally_ can't throw a punch at all! Nuh-uh! Got that? Do NOT forget to mention it, it's important!" Punk was right - he was working with children and pro wrestling is "high school".
With some stories Meltzer reports, It's very obvious who's feeding him the information, Like anything Jericho related he's ever reported Is so painfully obvious coming from Jericho.
I completely disagree...not even close to high school, far more like 4 yr old kindergarten or maybe even preschool. He gave those guys way too much credit
Yesterday I was rescueing orphans from a burning building, as CM Punk lunged at me from the dark. As I was lying on the floor, passing out I heard him say ,We don‘t do that around here‘ while he poured gasoline into the fire. The only witness was some old man, I could barely make out. His tongue was wagging out and he was stumbling over his words.
The Elite "We did it! Now we can do whatever we want whenever we want!!! YAY!!! OH YAY!!!" Tony "But you'll still be my friends yeah guys???" (Holding out bags filled with money)
Only at AEW can you get fired from a company who’s higher ups asked you to get involved in a situation involving a insubordinate performer and when said performer instigates an altercation with you in front of your boss and your boss is there to witness it, can you still be fired because people who weren’t involved told your boss “it’s best for business” he got involved because you asked him to, he was representing your company when the dude shoved him and told him “do something about it” this company is a joke This be like firing kurt angle in peak TNA because sanjay dutt shoved him and told him to lay off the Percs. I get Perry is protected by the EVPs but this is bad business all around, all tony has done is set a precedent that if you have the right friends in the company you’re untouchable.
We’re going to find out that Punk wasn’t fired, he quit. And AEW put out that he was fired in order to try and retain some credibility and control over this entire shitshow.
@@Zumii I suspect that the TNT deal that insisted on using Punk also plays in to this - if Punk can be fired with 'cause', AEW can't be held liable for not fulfilling that obligation. With that said, I think they may have really fired him, and given how much their legal team suck, I doubt they're ready for what happens in return... I don't think a non-compete clause is valid when you fire someone and effectively void the contract they had signed! I also wonder about the NDA situation...
How real men handle shoot fights: During the ruthless agression era Booker T and Batista had a backstage fight, and Vince was so impressed by Booker gaining the upper hand that he gave him a world title push.
Paul Orndorff knocks the shot out of Vader and gains even more legendary status. CM Punk takes care of a 160 lbs jobber and gets fired. Wrestling is dead.
I suspect Punk getting fired had more to do with Punk attacking Tony than Jack. Pretty sure if Paul Orndorf had tried to attack Turner, things would have ended a bit differently.
Ed Wells No, Trump did with his draft dodging, never being told no, trust fund brat entitlement, temper tantrums, whiny old woman behaviour, 7th grade soft whiny name calling campaigns on Twitter and his childish Eric Cartman like demeanour. Then every fringe radical fascist basement dwelling incel realized they could get their way by mimicking him. Donald Trump was patient 0 for this exact behaviour. Behaviour many republicans now share where they acted like men once in a blue moon before.
Pretty sure that Hangman's life is already bad enough as it is. I mean he has to live with the non-wrestler Logan Paul coming along and doing his finisher better than him and he's still a nobody after all this.
@@dannymcelroy922 I once saw a comment that never left me. "Dave Meltzer knows more about wrestling than just about everyone on the planet, and understands less about wrestling than most 6 years old who've watched it once". That's all Dave is. He knows historical facts. Who, what, when, where, why. He doesn't have the slightest understanding of what good work is, of what bad work is, what draws, why making sense matters. He's just a guy who, for most of his life has compiled data about a subject that's foreign to him.
Last one standing is my best guess. So many wrestling publications seem to have fallen by the wayside, so Meltzer has this artificial authority because he has done this for a while, and the actual journalists have gone away
Breaking News the AEW Discipline committee is made up of Kenny Omega the Bucks Adam Page Jericho and shockingly to absolutely nobody Meltzer and Alvarez 😂
Lets be honest, who HASNT wanted to lunge at their boss for favoring the worst employess, creating avoidable problems, and doing nothing to fix those problems?
I think Jim is probably right in that so many people there have no concept of or experience with actual aggressive behavior that someone giving them the stink eye with a bit of swearing thrown in gives them the vapors.
Vince tanked a full on punch to the face from his disgruntled employee. He didn’t cry to his lawyers, he turned it into the biggest WWF angle of the 90s.
You can't believe anything Dave Meltzer says anymore, especially when it comes to AEW. He'd better scrub his email. If CM Punk sues (which seems likely) that discovery would be bad for AEW.
Dave's setting himself up to lose a massive libel suit. He'll get subpoenaed for his sources, and he won't be able to claim "it's entertainment" in one breath and "free press!" in the next.
From the pre Punk days there were multiple things that Dave didn’t report on but almost everything involving Punk or anything said about him is posted in the Observer
Yeah people didn't like him but the people who didn't like him were broadly speaking still willing to put that aside and work with him because they knew he was good in the WWE there are more people who will put that aside for the good of the business. In AEW there are guys that don't understand why that's important in wrestling.
At All Out even before the event began tonight security was taking away CM Punk signs and requiring attendees to either turn their CM Punk shirts inside out or replace them to gain entry to the United Center. That's wild
I was one of them! My sign was taken! I argued with security and he said "they are confiscating all CM Punk signs". I wish I waited til we went live to hold it up, they saw my sign before the cameras started rolling. They love controlling the narrative
Also after last year's All Out during the Elite's entrance at the Chicago show they censored the CM Punk chants on tv. I commented this 3 times on wrestlinginc too and they deleted my comment every time
Now he's changed his story. "It was worse than lunging, I toned it down". He can't make up his mind. If this was true, it would have not only come out instantly, but Punk would not be taking pictures with Samoa Joe, Jerry Lynn and Paul Turner after the match, everybody smiling, and Punk wasn't even asked to leave. He asked if he should leave, and was told that he didn't have to but that it would make things easier if he did, then he left of his own accord. Now Tony is running for the hills.💩📝
And he also said (it might have been him or alvarez or sone other idiot) that khan was hit by falling monitors. Was Khan actually injured? We’re those falling monitors, gimmick falling monitors? The fact the waters keep being muddied with unreliable reports does not help anyone.
Oh that we now have the footage and can see EVERYTHING Dave said was a lie is gold 😂 This JC video where Punk and Perry recount the event match up not only with the Ariel interview but the footage! Dave lied. Tony cried. Monitors were wobbly at worst. Punk didn't lunge. And if he did? Chris f'n Hero was between them! Punk has no chance getting past him!
Even if he "lunged" at Khan I still can't blame him, it justifies the firing but it doesn't exempt Khan or the Elite of blame. Do we blame Bret for punching Vince? All human beings have a breaking point and with Punk being outside the rather large circle of friends in AEW, he had to deal with a marathon of harassment on top of silly narratives pushed by their media buddies. Punk still gets my defense
@@williamsmith666 Facts even guys in Vince circle told Vince he was gonna have to take a hit from Bret but lol no Montreal screw job happened to Punk Khan was a mark for Punk literally gave him millions of dollars let Punk book himself gave him his own show he had control over with guys he wanted on it
@@williamsmith666He didn't stick his chin out and "let it happen" when Bret spit on him and later punched. Vince simply didn't cry about it, unlike Tony Khan Even if he "let it happen" that's STILL a credit to Vince being a bigger man than Khan
What is wrong with these soft fans today. Back in the day if someone messed with you for a year while you sat there trying to do what you were suppose to and finally after a year of the grown up version of pointing a finger in your face and saying “I’m not touching you” you blow up on one of them grown ass men would say “well you f around and you find out”. Now probably because of the internet everyone thinks it’s completely fine to bully and screw with someone and that person better not retaliate or they are the one in the wrong. It’s like living in some backwards world. The elite and their minions f’d around and they found out.
Back in the day, there wasn’t Human Relations and big corporate influences. Can’t do that anymore. Same way you can’t do that in real life for any other job.
This phenomenon extends far beyond the Wrestling business....our entire culture is riddled with it. The whole "toxic masculinity" push and in most occupations, HR protects people who gossip and stir shit, and force out normal people who will stand up for themselves. It's a crazy world out there. Don't get me started on the Entitlement almost every person under 25 has
This childish garbage is the end result of Zero Tolerance policies in schools and workplaces. It’s almost as if a little backstabbing, rumour leaking gossip weasel invented that policy somewhere. Only punish the retaliation but allow the non physical bullying all day long and even defend it in the case of the popular crowd. No tolerance for Zero Tolerance. That policy needs to be destroyed.
It was such bad journalism - here are multiple versions of an event and I'm going to try and insinuate which one I want the readers to believe in. If he really wanted to, he could rewatch the match and point out if the injured hand was used and at what points, but I guess not even Dave can bear watching an AEW trios match twice...
When Brian said "one of Dave source who was not physically there told him" there goes the credibility of Uncle Dave. The source gave him the "he said, she said, he heard, she heard" without checking whether is it real or fake and he came up with "Punk is bad" narrative and "reports" it as news show what kind of credibility Uncle Dave has ever had
Lots of journalists or news sites run news stories covering incidents or alleged incidents that at some point in their articles state “we are unable to verify the claims”. Why report something if you haven’t fully verified the claims?
if Dave's story is false, Dave will also be sued and his direct involvement with AEW propaganda leaks during Punk's lawsuit discovery phase will be brought out into the open.
Yep, where sre the usual hardcore AEW cretins (not regular fans, but theit worst ones).to come.out of thr woodwork on videos like this one? Like the tide went out 😂
Footage is out. You were so wrong Dave. Again 😂 Perry and Punks versions line up until Dave goes off on one! Punk even said what Perry said he did. Their accounts line up. The punching part is clearly added by Dave and is false. The lunging? Yeah that's Dave. That also didn't happen. He didn't lunge. lunge noun a sudden forward thrust of the body, typically with an arm outstretched to attack someone or seize something. He's pointing and shouting. Cry me a river Tony 😂
@@neilbiggs1353 That would be interesting. I think if he does return he will fill Brocker’s “shoes” when you think about it. Brock is one foot out the door over there and who better to fill his spot then Punk. One interesting match would be Punk vs La Knight. Two good talkers who feel like the company never appreciated them and relied on the fans to push them.
The only "lunging" being done was uncle dave letting tony/kenny/matt/nick/adam lunge him as he was bent over a desk as he wrote out the 5 star matches from Wembley
I want CM Punk to slowly recruit a squad of "overlooked talent" from NXT to go to Survivor Series, and to get AJ Lee in the hall of fame for her contribution to women's wrestling in the WWE. He doesn't have to rush, and I could see WWE being petty enough to offer him legal help!
One thing that CM Punk was supposed to have said to Miro, jokingly or serious was "Do you want to fight me as well?" That gives me the impression Jungle Boy was up for a fight but it didn't go the way he wanted when he was trapped in the guillotine.
Lets be real people, The whole blame for this whole situation can be traced to Tony Khan, The Young Bucks, Dave Meltzer, Brian Alvarez, Jack Perry, & to a lesser extent, Kenny Omega & Adam Page..... It all starts with them & it's just too bad that CM Punk was pushed to react like he did and if people were honest about it, they would be fighting back too.....
Impressive Jim was correct on the whole situation, despite it being mostly speculation. Shows his experience in the business, been there, done that. While other podcasters mostly jumped on the Punk hate train, regurgitating Daves talking points.
At the end of the day I laugh because all these young buck marks raving that punk is gone are just happy because the guy who was never supposed to be there Outdrew, outsold, and outperformed their boyscouts by far without trying and while having his mind occupied with a million other things
@@namelessjedi2242 if I was in Tony’s position I’d have fired Punk and the Elite+ their cronies The show ran smooth when all of them were out anyway and they just crash ratings Give Jericho his wetdream and let him have more screen time, with Moxley, Christian, Danielson, FTR, Joe, young talent and decent midcard guys you would be set and not have to worry about drama anymore
Jericho has a major hand in it too and drives off viewers with his bad comedy. I’d shitcan him too, then ban the Observer and their stooges period. No more press conferences either. The dirt sheets can get fucked and go under.
@@tcincali9642 OH you're one of those people who thought Rollins was serious. He was cosplaying as Adam Page, it was a joke, look again. Rollins and Punk are cool in real-life and the SHIELD was Punk's idea, he chose Rollins and Ambrose although he didn't choose Reigns and disagreed with Reigns being apart of that group; which is why Reigns never liked Punk
I made this up and told my buddy uncle Dave to make this statement on my behalf without saying my name on the report. Me and my California friends can now have super kick parties in our treehouse without any interference whatsoever Edit: Only costed us a boy from the jungle
Meltzer basically said that when he was reporting Windham Rotunda’s death - he knew it was worse but didn’t report it. Meltzer always has try to prove that he’s the smartest guy in the room.
A neutral source has reported "Punk lunged at Tony Kahn and violently yelled 'YOU HAVE A VAGINA' while knocing over monitors even though he was being physically restrained
Punk was Hulk-ing Up backstage knocking over monitors and chairs, Khan shrieks 'WERE ALL GONNA DIE!?!?!" then Punk turns to Khan and gives him the Hogan finger and says "YOUUUUUUU!!!" #truestory
My only question is who's next? First it was Cody, now it's Punk. Seems like anyone that's more over than the "Elite" eventually faces the wrath of Cucamonga kids and their smear campaign. If I were MJF and FTR I would watch my back very closely.
Sounds like they wanted to fire Punk all along and just waited for the perfect situation to "cook the books" or "stack the deck" against Punk, now they're painting this picture of danger to try and avoid a lawsuit. It's actually pretty funny to see people run a company based on kliqs and being friends, I mean Dave is literally bitter behind the fact that WWE doesn't give him access. Tony definitely was on TV acting and it was a load of shit btw talking about he felt threatened.
So after all that, we finally saw the "lunge" 😂
Yeah, and the so-called "lunge" was non-existent! 😂
Jim called out every piece he believed actually happened from all the stories together. With his experience in the wrestling business he can see right through all the bs, yet people still think he’s a senile old man
So this "attack" that was so violent that Tony and others feared for their lives resulted in Jungle Jack not having a scratch on him? Great reporting, Dave!
Have you ever been LUNGED at? Terifying
Ah but you forget Cm punk’s punches had no effect on Jungle Jack.
Even though he seemingly knocked out Matt Jackson.
Make it make sense Dave.
I feared for my life once but it wasn't because someone lunged for me oh no I working in a shop and three guys came in with shotguns and robbed the place now that's fearing for your life TK is and will be a pussy
My favorite part of the story is that Dave had to throw in that Jungle Boy successfully defended himself after like 6 different versions of JB getting his ass handed to him
Jack Perry couldn't defend himself from Punk if you gave him an AK47 with extended mags.
@@karma_coinLMAO I was hoping I'd see someone say something like this... and it's true!
@@karma_coinAnd 3 grenades.
Damn how bad did cm punk whoop his ass they make it seem punk dragon fist his ass backstage!!! Hahahahahahahaha!!!
@@karma_coin he would shoot himself to prove that it's a real gun
The anti-Punk sentiment rn is so insane, considering AEW marks cried in joy when CM Punk return on Rampage years ago
I'm sure they didn't expect him to have a mid life crisis and ruin the hype of there biggest show they ever done cuz he's a fake tough guy
You make no sense lol yes they wanted him back does that mean they wanted him to go nuts and try to attack his boss ? You make no sense
Wrestling fans have never been praised for their intelligence
@@marcrapaccuiolo2406I agree, he's an unhinged maniac that needed to be stopped✋️
@@SasukesSharingan. Idiot.
You may notice, Dave decides to tell multiple stories about Brodie King too. None of which make him look good. Is it a coincidence that the 1 guy tight with Punk gets the Metlzer/Punk treatment of 12 different versions, all of which make him look horrible? These guys know EXACTLY what they are doing.
Meltzer has multiple version of answers to questions so that one of them can be right
What has he said about Brodie King? I only really hear of Meltzer's comments through these videos
Wtf he say about Brodie king 👑
@ThePlayaJohn Brody King broke his hand and possibly wrist when he was angry with Punk/JB situation WHICH Brody refuted Uncle Dave report by saying he only kick the trash can and hurt his hand in the match instead of punching the wall
@@brendonbosch1376those answers are usually "oh um ah eh erm urm er like like like you know it's like it's like it's like um eh Li Li Like"
Punk is 4-0 in real fights in AEW.
Hahahahaha. And remember the first time he was forced to kick ass, he was already injured!
@@victory7763 He was also outnumbered. Even if you count Larry and Ace's injured wife.
Really shows you the state of the AEW locker-room if a failed UFC fighter can go undefeated.
@@Saddler1944
90% of failed UFC fighters would beat up 99% of todays “stars” so that’s more of an indictment of the industry and its willingness to allow so many fans in the ring without the fan earning the privilege to be in there.
Because he fought manlets like Twinkle Toes, the Hardly Boyz, and Jack Fairy. Have him pull his shit with Powerhouse Hobbs, Samoa Joe, Miro, and/or Wardlow. Let's see how tough he really is (spoiler: he isn't). Do you know why WWE was the only place he ever worked where he DIDN'T get into fights? Because, for one, Vince and Undertaker didn't put up with his bullshit. For two, during his time, it was full of legitimate tough guys, not the scrawny weaklings of today. But, Chump fans are as delusional as Twinkle Toes and Hardly Boyz fans, literally will contradict themselves intentionally just to worship their favorite cancerous shit head.
Jack Perry had his chest puffed out tanking all of CM Punks marshmallow punches. That's one hell of a story spin goddamn.
Like classic superman just tanking the bullets with his chest 😂
Now I’m picturing Jack doing the chest out block animation from the AKI wrestling games.
Tony's "disciplinary committee " meeting probably went like:
"Punk poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague unto our houses! "
"He did? "
"No! But are we gonna wait around until he does?! "
Man, I love how the "Elite" crony who fed Dave the fake story, absolutely HAD to include that Punk's supposed punches were oh-so clumsy and ineffective. I can practically see the Cucamonga clowns dictate it word for word. "...And don't forget to put in there that the guy who knocked me out in the dressing room at "All Out", _totally_ can't throw a punch at all! Nuh-uh! Got that? Do NOT forget to mention it, it's important!"
Punk was right - he was working with children and pro wrestling is "high school".
Even after he said that, they kept doing things to prove every word he said was true.
At this point, if I'm Punk, I'm going after Meltzer for libel.
With some stories Meltzer reports, It's very obvious who's feeding him the information, Like anything Jericho related he's ever reported Is so painfully obvious coming from Jericho.
I completely disagree...not even close to high school, far more like 4 yr old kindergarten or maybe even preschool. He gave those guys way too much credit
@@ChrisStoecker Dave as a kindergarten teacher: "And to my good little fawns for all the kicks and flips, you get five star stickers!"
Yesterday I was rescueing orphans from a burning building, as CM Punk lunged at me from the dark. As I was lying on the floor, passing out I heard him say ,We don‘t do that around here‘ while he poured gasoline into the fire. The only witness was some old man, I could barely make out. His tongue was wagging out and he was stumbling over his words.
Anyone that believes Meltzer or Alvarez at this point are AEW marks who hate CM Punk
This was the first time I listened to Corny and felt my well being in danger.....my life even!
Long as you ain't a right winger you are safe👌
This was not the first time I saw that joke in Corny comments today. lol
@@Billinois78 Well i just woke up lol
@@Roger-fs5yoor Russo.
@@JimCornetteIsMyDad exactly
The one thing that still remains unresolved throughout this entire fiasco is what was Punk's Nandos order?
I dunno man but I heard he lunged at the waiter when he asked him did he want peri-peri sauce with his chicken.
Muffins
Who knows. Legend has it the staff were fearing for the lives when punk placed his order.
@@brianohalloran4059Brilliant 😂
@@TheJayLordx Thank you kind Sir.
The Elite "We did it! Now we can do whatever we want whenever we want!!! YAY!!! OH YAY!!!"
Tony "But you'll still be my friends yeah guys???" (Holding out bags filled with money)
This is the funniest comment I've ever seen. Thank you!
Thanks guys 💀😂🤣
@@victory7763you are welcome!
Only at AEW can you get fired from a company who’s higher ups asked you to get involved in a situation involving a insubordinate performer and when said performer instigates an altercation with you in front of your boss and your boss is there to witness it, can you still be fired because people who weren’t involved told your boss “it’s best for business” he got involved because you asked him to, he was representing your company when the dude shoved him and told him “do something about it” this company is a joke This be like firing kurt angle in peak TNA because sanjay dutt shoved him and told him to lay off the Percs. I get Perry is protected by the EVPs but this is bad business all around, all tony has done is set a precedent that if you have the right friends in the company you’re untouchable.
💯
To quote Mr. Phil Brooks “tell me where I’m telling lies!” I’m really looking forward to AEW crumbling to the ground.
I'm not a huge fan of CM Punk......but you're absolutely spot on with this
We’re going to find out that Punk wasn’t fired, he quit. And AEW put out that he was fired in order to try and retain some credibility and control over this entire shitshow.
@@Zumii I suspect that the TNT deal that insisted on using Punk also plays in to this - if Punk can be fired with 'cause', AEW can't be held liable for not fulfilling that obligation. With that said, I think they may have really fired him, and given how much their legal team suck, I doubt they're ready for what happens in return... I don't think a non-compete clause is valid when you fire someone and effectively void the contract they had signed! I also wonder about the NDA situation...
How real men handle shoot fights: During the ruthless agression era Booker T and Batista had a backstage fight, and Vince was so impressed by Booker gaining the upper hand that he gave him a world title push.
Thats a whole different sort of toxic. Mac mahon jr is a nut job, not someone who is admirable
These gen Z folk and grown snowflakes cannot comprehend such a thing. They think people should be able to talk sht and not have to back it up.
@@marcbasil Settle down Marcy.
@@edwells4769 mac mahon Junior wouldn’t p!as on you if you were on fire. Go to bed, mark 🎯🤤🥴
Also, Booker tee was the drizzling you-know-whats. Never drew a penny, and got the shove due to the racism lawsuit in dubya see dubya 🤦🏻
Paul Orndorff knocks the shot out of Vader and gains even more legendary status. CM Punk takes care of a 160 lbs jobber and gets fired. Wrestling is dead.
Say it louder for the people in the back! Preach!
This is a sickness of our country, not wrestling. You can't be a man anymore. Sadly, Jim's political proclivities have led us down this path.
I suspect Punk getting fired had more to do with Punk attacking Tony than Jack.
Pretty sure if Paul Orndorf had tried to attack Turner, things would have ended a bit differently.
Ed Wells
No, Trump did with his draft dodging, never being told no, trust fund brat entitlement, temper tantrums, whiny old woman behaviour, 7th grade soft whiny name calling campaigns on Twitter and his childish Eric Cartman like demeanour. Then every fringe radical fascist basement dwelling incel realized they could get their way by mimicking him.
Donald Trump was patient 0 for this exact behaviour. Behaviour many republicans now share where they acted like men once in a blue moon before.
And after reviewing the tape, we can see that that was a lie…
Maury agrees!
And still Hangman never faced any consequences for starting all this.
They took Punk off the cover of their stupid video game and then added Adam Page... it's ridiculous
Pretty sure that Hangman's life is already bad enough as it is. I mean he has to live with the non-wrestler Logan Paul coming along and doing his finisher better than him and he's still a nobody after all this.
@@rishnixLogan Pauls got it bad his own self with Dillon Danis roasting LPs girl on Twitter for weeks
As Jungle Boy would say, cry me a river
Why not they show the footage???
They are letting Uncle Tongue jizz all over this shit..
How did anyone ever take Meltzer seriously?
His historical facts are spot on. Just don't ask his opinions
Nobody does except his sycophants. This comment is so fucking played out.
@@dannymcelroy922 I once saw a comment that never left me. "Dave Meltzer knows more about wrestling than just about everyone on the planet, and understands less about wrestling than most 6 years old who've watched it once". That's all Dave is. He knows historical facts. Who, what, when, where, why. He doesn't have the slightest understanding of what good work is, of what bad work is, what draws, why making sense matters. He's just a guy who, for most of his life has compiled data about a subject that's foreign to him.
Last one standing is my best guess. So many wrestling publications seem to have fallen by the wayside, so Meltzer has this artificial authority because he has done this for a while, and the actual journalists have gone away
I say this ALL THE TIME
I'd pay a week wage to see the security footage of Punk vs Perry
It'll be a very short video 😂
@@victory7763 it would be worth it 😂
Would clear up what happened.
It will get leaked!
@@j_mad I could think of a million much better things to spend your money on
Thanks to AEW putting the footage out, now we know Punk's version was completely accurate
I’m afraid to look at the thumbnail with Punk looking at me like that. I’m fearing for my life. I feel he’s about to lunge at me at any moment.
In all my years of looking at Travis Heckel thumbnails I’ve never before feared for my life until now!
The fact that dave's sources are telling different stories abt the same incident tells u all u need to know 😂😂
EXACTLY
Breaking News the AEW Discipline committee is made up of Kenny Omega the Bucks Adam Page Jericho and shockingly to absolutely nobody Meltzer and Alvarez 😂
Lets be honest, who HASNT wanted to lunge at their boss for favoring the worst employess, creating avoidable problems, and doing nothing to fix those problems?
😂 exactly 💯
Admitted problems, even! Tony sure sat there and agreed with everything Punk said at that scrum last year.
@@namelessjedi2242 And then doubled down on all the shit Punk said was a problem!
I think Jim is probably right in that so many people there have no concept of or experience with actual aggressive behavior that someone giving them the stink eye with a bit of swearing thrown in gives them the vapors.
Vince tanked a full on punch to the face from his disgruntled employee. He didn’t cry to his lawyers, he turned it into the biggest WWF angle of the 90s.
Never been a big fan of Punk, but I’ve gained respect for him not putting up with any shit from a bunch of entitled pipsqueaks.
You can't believe anything Dave Meltzer says anymore, especially when it comes to AEW.
He'd better scrub his email. If CM Punk sues (which seems likely) that discovery would be bad for AEW.
He should have when the evps pulled their shit
Why would he care? Wrestling is a work and wrestling journalism is a work too.
If course Punk sues, he couldn't win a fight against anyone, so file the paperwork
Dave's setting himself up to lose a massive libel suit. He'll get subpoenaed for his sources, and he won't be able to claim "it's entertainment" in one breath and "free press!" in the next.
He can’t sue, if anything they will sue Punk, the cc tv footage incriminates punk.
CM Punk! CM Punk!
No! AEW!! AEW!!
@TheGameGallowsPlayBrilliant.
From the pre Punk days there were multiple things that Dave didn’t report on but almost everything involving Punk or anything said about him is posted in the Observer
Real drama trumps fake drama any day.
Yup. Dave's a good little worker for the EVPS and Khan. Alvarez, too. Both-fake as F--k; couldn't pay me to read the bullsh-t they both spew.
Yeah people didn't like him but the people who didn't like him were broadly speaking still willing to put that aside and work with him because they knew he was good in the WWE there are more people who will put that aside for the good of the business. In AEW there are guys that don't understand why that's important in wrestling.
At All Out even before the event began tonight security was taking away CM Punk signs and requiring attendees to either turn their CM Punk shirts inside out or replace them to gain entry to the United Center. That's wild
WTF Really lol AEW trying to erase CM Punk like WWE did Benoit 🤦♂️
I was one of them! My sign was taken! I argued with security and he said "they are confiscating all CM Punk signs". I wish I waited til we went live to hold it up, they saw my sign before the cameras started rolling.
They love controlling the narrative
That's shitty about the signs, but who the fuck would buy and wear a CM Punk shirt?
Also after last year's All Out during the Elite's entrance at the Chicago show they censored the CM Punk chants on tv. I commented this 3 times on wrestlinginc too and they deleted my comment every time
Yea can’t wait to hear Jim talk about that
Thank you Dave Meltzer for giving Jim Cornette more reason to talk about this 😂😂
lol. Punk went in, beat some ass, and left. That was his AEW run.
He couldn’t beat up a mannequin
@@marcbasil punk whooped on the smallest dudes on the roster, that's a fact. Jingle boys twink who was let go was lucky he wasn't still there
@@edwells4769 cm twurp couldn’t whoop his ladiboi-looking wife, nevermind another grown man. The guy is pop punk/emo, for crying out loud lmfao
@@marcbasilundefeated against wrestlers who think they tough guys😂😂😂
@@BigDic-m6t true, he couldn't whoop a grown mans ass, but he wasn't fighting grown men, he fought gas station twinks
When that “ Pre Order now as a bonus and play as Cm Punk in WWE 2k24” hits the timeline it’s gonna have wrestling twitter in a chokehold
If Punk would have hit Tony, he may have knocked some sense into him
If only we could turn back time and Tony was Stossel 😔
Sense* 😂😂😂
@@Brndn350Z Thanks lol.
I was hoping he would Tony needs it
Now he's changed his story. "It was worse than lunging, I toned it down". He can't make up his mind. If this was true, it would have not only come out instantly, but Punk would not be taking pictures with Samoa Joe, Jerry Lynn and Paul Turner after the match, everybody smiling, and Punk wasn't even asked to leave. He asked if he should leave, and was told that he didn't have to but that it would make things easier if he did, then he left of his own accord. Now Tony is running for the hills.💩📝
And he also said (it might have been him or alvarez or sone other idiot) that khan was hit by falling monitors. Was Khan actually injured? We’re those falling monitors, gimmick falling monitors? The fact the waters keep being muddied with unreliable reports does not help anyone.
Oh that we now have the footage and can see EVERYTHING Dave said was a lie is gold 😂
This JC video where Punk and Perry recount the event match up not only with the Ariel interview but the footage!
Dave lied.
Tony cried.
Monitors were wobbly at worst. Punk didn't lunge. And if he did? Chris f'n Hero was between them! Punk has no chance getting past him!
Dave reporting is like a gossip, it was based on gossip without any investigation by dave
He has a direct link from the elite
Jericho had to go to Nandos to see what Punk ordered. Didn't have time to get the story straight.
Meltzer is an absolute embarrassment.
The lunge is so dangerous that mjf and Adam Cole almost made it the set up for a double clothesline
I’ve been a wrestling and Jim Cornette fan for over 40 years and now I’m starting to fear for my life
You've been a wrestling hahaha 😅
Even if he "lunged" at Khan I still can't blame him, it justifies the firing but it doesn't exempt Khan or the Elite of blame. Do we blame Bret for punching Vince? All human beings have a breaking point and with Punk being outside the rather large circle of friends in AEW, he had to deal with a marathon of harassment on top of silly narratives pushed by their media buddies. Punk still gets my defense
Yeah and that made Punk assault his coworkers and attempt to attack his boss 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@FforFakeVince has bigger balls than Con... I mean Khan
Bret was already out when he punched Vince, and according to everyone around them he let it happen.
"I'll give you one."
Pretty big difference there.
@@williamsmith666 Facts even guys in Vince circle told Vince he was gonna have to take a hit from Bret but lol no Montreal screw job happened to Punk Khan was a mark for Punk literally gave him millions of dollars let Punk book himself gave him his own show he had control over with guys he wanted on it
@@williamsmith666He didn't stick his chin out and "let it happen" when Bret spit on him and later punched. Vince simply didn't cry about it, unlike Tony Khan
Even if he "let it happen" that's STILL a credit to Vince being a bigger man than Khan
What is wrong with these soft fans today. Back in the day if someone messed with you for a year while you sat there trying to do what you were suppose to and finally after a year of the grown up version of pointing a finger in your face and saying “I’m not touching you” you blow up on one of them grown ass men would say “well you f around and you find out”. Now probably because of the internet everyone thinks it’s completely fine to bully and screw with someone and that person better not retaliate or they are the one in the wrong. It’s like living in some backwards world. The elite and their minions f’d around and they found out.
Back in the day, there wasn’t Human Relations and big corporate influences. Can’t do that anymore. Same way you can’t do that in real life for any other job.
That is the pro-wrestling fandom.
WWE has casual fans. AEW has devoted nerds. WWE shares some of those same devoted nerds.
This phenomenon extends far beyond the Wrestling business....our entire culture is riddled with it. The whole "toxic masculinity" push and in most occupations, HR protects people who gossip and stir shit, and force out normal people who will stand up for themselves. It's a crazy world out there. Don't get me started on the Entitlement almost every person under 25 has
This childish garbage is the end result of Zero Tolerance policies in schools and workplaces. It’s almost as if a little backstabbing, rumour leaking gossip weasel invented that policy somewhere.
Only punish the retaliation but allow the non physical bullying all day long and even defend it in the case of the popular crowd.
No tolerance for Zero Tolerance. That policy needs to be destroyed.
All that's missing is for Tony Khan to have his Dad call John Walsh and put CM Punk on the next episode of "America's Most Wanted." 😂
Or call Chris Hansen so he can ask punk to take a seat.
Omg that Brody King story had me rolling 🤣
😂😂
Most violent part of this whole fight was King vs Wall.
It was such bad journalism - here are multiple versions of an event and I'm going to try and insinuate which one I want the readers to believe in. If he really wanted to, he could rewatch the match and point out if the injured hand was used and at what points, but I guess not even Dave can bear watching an AEW trios match twice...
When Brian said "one of Dave source who was not physically there told him" there goes the credibility of Uncle Dave. The source gave him the "he said, she said, he heard, she heard" without checking whether is it real or fake and he came up with "Punk is bad" narrative and "reports" it as news show what kind of credibility Uncle Dave has ever had
Lots of journalists or news sites run news stories covering incidents or alleged incidents that at some point in their articles state “we are unable to verify the claims”. Why report something if you haven’t fully verified the claims?
if Dave's story is false, Dave will also be sued and his direct involvement with AEW propaganda leaks during Punk's lawsuit discovery phase will be brought out into the open.
100%
Can't wait for punk to take legal action.
he will get a settlement probably lols@@Melo_Soul
I sure hope Dave's ass is sued
@@jimstienbarger6388 "he deserves it" 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 😂
These stories are made even better now that the footage has been shown to the world
Yep, where sre the usual hardcore AEW cretins (not regular fans, but theit worst ones).to come.out of thr woodwork on videos like this one?
Like the tide went out 😂
As of this moment, 9:44 pm central. CM Punk has lunged at 8k viewers. Absolute monster
Just waiting for the ratings to lunge towards 400k viewers...
We might as well get a “ Cm Punk All In Altercation” omnibus at this point.
Footage is out.
You were so wrong Dave.
Again 😂
Perry and Punks versions line up until Dave goes off on one! Punk even said what Perry said he did.
Their accounts line up.
The punching part is clearly added by Dave and is false. The lunging? Yeah that's Dave. That also didn't happen.
He didn't lunge.
lunge
noun
a sudden forward thrust of the body, typically with an arm outstretched to attack someone or seize something.
He's pointing and shouting.
Cry me a river Tony 😂
Content creators are going to cash some nice checks thanks to CM Punk. Imagine Bret vs Shawn in today’s world.
I had a can of soup "lunge" at me because of my stupidity, I didn't fire the shelf
If TK sent Punk to the ring after all of this happened, the lawsuit is over. Punk will get his money.
A bunch of million dollar lawyers with tiny hats approved. Punk isn't getting shit, not when all the judges wear the same hats.
Didn't realize we got fucking Matlock over here
Im struggling to believe TK feared for his life. They don't remove him ASAP really? Nonsense
The AEW locker room stuff is more interesting than the actual in-ring product. Imagine pulling this shit with Harley Race in the locker room.
If they were lucky, Harley would shoot 'em....if he decided to just mangle them instead they would probably end up begging him to just shoot 'em😂
Uhhh that is literally ALL of rasslin post-kayfabe, you slobbering smark
I realized that so quit watching. I’ll still follow the reporting and Corny, of course!
Apparently yelling at someone means lunging now.
Once again the backstage drama is more entertaining than the in ring drama
Man if only TK could harness all of that backstage drama into the television programming. They'd have great ratings and I might consider watching it.
@@chanthathanh1031ikr, but tony is an idiot and not an actual promoter. A real promoter would of taken advantage of this!
Ikr I wanna see that show lol
Lmao who even cared about all out? 💀😂🤣
Always has been
I didn't think it was possible to dislike Tony Khan anymore
Punk saying things like, "You know I could f--k you up at any time" makes me like him even more.
You know Vince and Triple H are already talking about how they can get Punk involved with this year’s Survivor Series in November.
My fantasy booking is that Punk brings up a bunch of people from NXT who feel overlooked by management, so he operates as a player coach...
@@neilbiggs1353 That would be interesting. I think if he does return he will fill Brocker’s “shoes” when you think about it. Brock is one foot out the door over there and who better to fill his spot then Punk. One interesting match would be Punk vs La Knight. Two good talkers who feel like the company never appreciated them and relied on the fans to push them.
😉
It sounds like Dave Meltzer’s source is Jungle Boy Lmfao and Jungle Boy needs to thank Samoa Joe for saving his life.
Cm twurp couldn’t beat up a mannequin
@@marcbasilBeat up the Bucks and had Jungle Boy in a guillotine. Explains why the product sucks.
@@marcbasilstill can choked fake wrestlers like bucks and jackoff
@@erik8787-x2r he’s never choked his chicken, let alone another grown man
@@kellerblair2952 ….?
Good Old Uncle Dave Riding That Buck Shlong again🤣🤣🤣
I bet that Ghengis Khan is somewhere in the afterlife shaking his head at what a softie his descendant Tony Khan turned out to be.
Punk glared at Tony so hard, Bob Sapp tapped out
Just hearing them talking about the lunge makes me fear for my life
The only "lunging" being done was uncle dave letting tony/kenny/matt/nick/adam lunge him as he was bent over a desk as he wrote out the 5 star matches from Wembley
I want a loose cannon cm punk in WWE NOW!
He needs to be on either Raw or Smackdown ASAFP! 😂
And BRING THE BELT WITH HIM.
If not, I hear Freddie Prinze Jr. is hiring.
Lunge Cannon
I want CM Punk to slowly recruit a squad of "overlooked talent" from NXT to go to Survivor Series, and to get AJ Lee in the hall of fame for her contribution to women's wrestling in the WWE. He doesn't have to rush, and I could see WWE being petty enough to offer him legal help!
AEW is like highschool drama. 🤣🤣
True. And it makes sense, look at how much publicity all this shit gets them. Far more interesting than their TV product.
Only the students are in their 30s pushing 40.
Just with less maturity...
One thing that CM Punk was supposed to have said to Miro, jokingly or serious was "Do you want to fight me as well?" That gives me the impression Jungle Boy was up for a fight but it didn't go the way he wanted when he was trapped in the guillotine.
Are we just not going to refer to Brodie King punching the wall as “Wall-In”?
Uncle Dave and Bryan Alvarez has to be the absolute lamest version of a real life Rick and Morty.
Now I want to see Travis Heckel artwork of that! 😂
I was taking a dump at Chili’s, and suddenly CM Punk kicked down the door and lunged at me!
I believe this more than anything Uncle Dave writes about Punk.
Lets be real people, The whole blame for this whole situation can be traced to Tony Khan, The Young Bucks, Dave Meltzer, Brian Alvarez, Jack Perry, & to a lesser extent, Kenny Omega & Adam Page..... It all starts with them & it's just too bad that CM Punk was pushed to react like he did and if people were honest about it, they would be fighting back too.....
Jericho & TK are Meltzers greatest sources. Mind blowing that this isnt obvious to everyone
Jericho is the one telling all of the lies about Punk
That line of Jim Ross having a special entrance….was he going to parachute down from the top of Wembley into his seat at the announce table?
The snowman is the softest guy ive ever seen lmao 🤣😂
Impressive Jim was correct on the whole situation, despite it being mostly speculation. Shows his experience in the business, been there, done that. While other podcasters mostly jumped on the Punk hate train, regurgitating Daves talking points.
Dave's sources is that "He made it the FUCK up"
I agree with that or that the EVP's told him what to say.
@unknownsample4801 the EVPs probably typed the response and emailed it to Dave
Worst kept secret in wrestling; Dave’s getting paid handsomely by Snowman Tony Khan.
Tony should book a tournament to see who's version of the story is correct.
At the end of the day I laugh because all these young buck marks raving that punk is gone are just happy because the guy who was never supposed to be there
Outdrew, outsold, and outperformed their boyscouts by far without trying and while having his mind occupied with a million other things
In the end, coddling the Elite and Tony does them no favors. AEW could be so much more popular by now if it weren’t for their nonsense.
@@namelessjedi2242 if I was in Tony’s position I’d have fired Punk and the Elite+ their cronies
The show ran smooth when all of them were out anyway and they just crash ratings
Give Jericho his wetdream and let him have more screen time, with Moxley, Christian, Danielson, FTR, Joe, young talent and decent midcard guys you would be set and not have to worry about drama anymore
Jericho has a major hand in it too and drives off viewers with his bad comedy. I’d shitcan him too, then ban the Observer and their stooges period. No more press conferences either. The dirt sheets can get fucked and go under.
Moxley I’d put back in rehab. He’s clearly drinking again and he’s added a cutting fetish.
@@nickhughes8179 you can tell someone’s drinking by how fat and wide their faces get lol
I see it
I tried watching this on my TV and it asked for AGE VERIFICATION 😂😂😂 Had to sign in ❤
I hope Punk goes home to WWE and works with Cody, LA Knight, Roman, or even Brock on his way to retirement. He deserves it after all this BULLSHIT!
Cody, Rollins, and Reigns
@@victory7763Rollins isn’t gonna work with him. Probably Reigns too.
@@tcincali9642 OH you're one of those people who thought Rollins was serious. He was cosplaying as Adam Page, it was a joke, look again. Rollins and Punk are cool in real-life and the SHIELD was Punk's idea, he chose Rollins and Ambrose although he didn't choose Reigns and disagreed with Reigns being apart of that group; which is why Reigns never liked Punk
I made this up and told my buddy uncle Dave to make this statement on my behalf without saying my name on the report. Me and my California friends can now have super kick parties in our treehouse without any interference whatsoever
Edit: Only costed us a boy from the jungle
I love how Dave “knew” it was worse, but gave punk benefit of the doubt. But knew it was way worse 😂
Meltzer basically said that when he was reporting Windham Rotunda’s death - he knew it was worse but didn’t report it. Meltzer always has try to prove that he’s the smartest guy in the room.
Any relation to Percy or Mike Sledge?
There was definitely symbolism in last night's PPV when Joe put MJF into Guillotine Choke. Like they were replaying the incident on display.
A neutral source has reported "Punk lunged at Tony Kahn and violently yelled 'YOU HAVE A VAGINA' while knocing over monitors even though he was being physically restrained
CM Punk's AEW tenure: "Wreck Everyone & Leave".
Lunge and leave 🤣
Now that we've seen the footage, tony clown cant defend himself anymore
Round 2. Double gem for the night from Jim
Can we please have a trilogy of Pepsi Phil on the drive thru eating Muffins?😂
Punk was Hulk-ing Up backstage knocking over monitors and chairs, Khan shrieks 'WERE ALL GONNA DIE!?!?!" then Punk turns to Khan and gives him the Hogan finger and says "YOUUUUUUU!!!" #truestory
I love that after watching the footage and hearing Punk explain it that his “side” of the story was 100% spot on
Ah yes 3 videos in a row! Let’s Go Corny and Brian! R.I.P. AEW 💯😂😂
My only question is who's next? First it was Cody, now it's Punk. Seems like anyone that's more over than the "Elite" eventually faces the wrath of Cucamonga kids and their smear campaign. If I were MJF and FTR I would watch my back very closely.
Noted elite fanboy meltzer said it so it must be true
"I know what will make the marks hate punk more, he LUNGED at Tony Khan!" - Dave probably.
Sounds like they wanted to fire Punk all along and just waited for the perfect situation to "cook the books" or "stack the deck" against Punk, now they're painting this picture of danger to try and avoid a lawsuit. It's actually pretty funny to see people run a company based on kliqs and being friends, I mean Dave is literally bitter behind the fact that WWE doesn't give him access. Tony definitely was on TV acting and it was a load of shit btw talking about he felt threatened.
Nope, punk bad
There is video footage of the altercation. Someone just release the damn video, and then we can all make up our own minds.
How do u sucker punch someone when your face to face