Absolutely beautiful and very helpful and deep! I'm a singer-songwriter getting ready to record my second album and have been praying about whether to record with a click track or not, and I'm definitely leaning strongly towards NOT after seeing your video. I just want to really forget about the timing and let the emotion shine through as clearly as I can... thank you!!!
It’s got a real plain chant, holy feel and the spiritual sense is enhanced with the final video. If you went for a second A section, think about leaving your vocal in for that final medieval holy feeling. Nice work, good tips. Thanks Sam.
What a cool idea! I often do like to start writing with a free-form part played without click, but lining up other parts afterwards is often problematic... closest I've gotten is by watching the initial part piano roll scroll by and playing along to the notes I can see there. But this approach seems a lot more natural and open to additional expression. Thanks for sharing :-)
I agree. Have gone through this. It’s very effective and natural to do this way. I think after coming up with the melody, we have to tempo map accordingly to have everything structurally align with the beats and bars ( beat mapping )
You could iof course use a flexible tempo track, but it isn't necessary, and I didn't do that this time. I guess it depends on the genre. Thanks for your reflections.
Although I can read music and understand the theory, this is very similar to the way I compose. I do sometimes try and start with a Key Signature, Tempo and Time Signature but I find it constricts me somewhat because I feel I have to make what I'm composing fit in with the theory, so I really do find this approach very good, and as you said, that's for me at least.
@2:55: Enchanting effect! I could see this sound being used in a flashback movie/show scene (just the voice line plus piano). Need to try this. :D I wonder if voice actors do this too? It's like a visual guide. Also, I really hate the click track when trying to record something. I find that I usually just set the click track to only the first 4 beats in my DAW because it gets too distracting otherwise. I like to hum whichever part of the song I'm working on, and the click track just messes with me every time lol. Your final piece was really beautiful! Thanks!
Thank you! I can tell you that voice actors sort of do this, because they look at the original video when dubbing, or perhaps a video that they are adding their voice to.
1:16 ok this is ya a very smart and original trick! We can use the movie track to conduct ourselves or , even better, to conduct whoever shares the same project. Great tip, although i don´t know how much I need it. This melody is good to show on video but for this improvisation alone still looks to be enough, unless the voice just inspires you better or you are a good singer
Great tip. I've been looking for ways to escape the metronome and write more rubato pieces. A helpful follow-up to this video (for those of us wanting to output our works to sheet music in Sibelius or etc) would be to tell how to align the notes with the bars afterward. Sonar use to have "Fit Improvisation" for this but I had trouble with it. How would you do that in Cubase or other DAWs?
I'm afraid I don't know what that function is exactly. But you could set the tempo track to follow the conducting, drawing lines up and down to follow the rubato. Cheers.
great approach being your own conductor....that's cool for music without drum beat ,but does it work for other genres? The style of music reminds me of Schindler's list....you are very talented!
Thank you, very kind. I actually think it works for all musik. Back in the day, before DAWs, people played together and had to follow each other, so no song was perfectly aligning a beat or grid. It makes music sound more expressive and alive. A song with a beat could speed up or down slightly to get a more dynamic feel. Some soul music does this in fact, where the beat feels behind, or a bit off Cheers!
thank you very much to you for everything, for your explanations it helps a lot. I bought EW opus Hollywood orchestra and it's fabulous. I now only work with him.Thank you from France.Tony
❤wow iam a new producer still under training but I will need something extra to follow on UA-cam so I am glad that I came across your video. Please do you have materials and tutorial that can help? Thanks alot
Wonderfull, I made the music for my wife song like that not click track some time I have to do some tempo changes. What kind of headphones do you are using? Thank you
I have using the ATH fo many years but the rober around the ears is not the good quality this is the only reasong that I need to find something different. Tahnk
It turns out it works! I've made a track some time ago without click and quantization and... It really works! Awesome melody!
Yes, it is funny that we tend to believe we can't work without click tracks. Thank you Yevhen!
Absolutely beautiful and very helpful and deep! I'm a singer-songwriter getting ready to record my second album and have been praying about whether to record with a click track or not, and I'm definitely leaning strongly towards NOT after seeing your video. I just want to really forget about the timing and let the emotion shine through as clearly as I can... thank you!!!
Best of luck with your project!
Thank you!
It’s got a real plain chant, holy feel and the spiritual sense is enhanced with the final video. If you went for a second A section, think about leaving your vocal in for that final medieval holy feeling. Nice work, good tips. Thanks Sam.
Thank you. I might try that. Cheers!
Thank you so much !
Thanks you very good 👍
Great stuff Sam, very effective
Cheers Mark!
What a cool idea! I often do like to start writing with a free-form part played without click, but lining up other parts afterwards is often problematic... closest I've gotten is by watching the initial part piano roll scroll by and playing along to the notes I can see there. But this approach seems a lot more natural and open to additional expression.
Thanks for sharing :-)
I agree. Have gone through this. It’s very effective and natural to do this way. I think after coming up with the melody, we have to tempo map accordingly to have everything structurally align with the beats and bars ( beat mapping )
You could iof course use a flexible tempo track, but it isn't necessary, and I didn't do that this time. I guess it depends on the genre.
Thanks for your reflections.
Yes..great way to not be chained to a click.
Excellent option, Sam. I'll definitely try it.
Let me know if you come up with something nice 🙂
@@SecondTierSound Thanks 🙂... Just about to make a new intro track so let's see.
Great Idea Thanks for sharing
I hope it is useful!
Although I can read music and understand the theory, this is very similar to the way I compose. I do sometimes try and start with a Key Signature, Tempo and Time Signature but I find it constricts me somewhat because I feel I have to make what I'm composing fit in with the theory, so I really do find this approach very good, and as you said, that's for me at least.
Theory is a good tool, but sometimes you don't need tools, cause it ain't broke 🙃
Useful channel, glad to find it! Thanx!
Thank you!
Thanks for this post! I looked into the topic of composing without a metronome on vi-control's forum and I think this is a brilliant idea.
Thank you. This one is the most fun, I think.
Very interesting idea. Thanks 👍
Thank you for letting me know🙂
I love this idea!!!
I love it too🙃
@2:55: Enchanting effect! I could see this sound being used in a flashback movie/show scene (just the voice line plus piano). Need to try this. :D I wonder if voice actors do this too? It's like a visual guide. Also, I really hate the click track when trying to record something. I find that I usually just set the click track to only the first 4 beats in my DAW because it gets too distracting otherwise. I like to hum whichever part of the song I'm working on, and the click track just messes with me every time lol. Your final piece was really beautiful! Thanks!
Thank you! I can tell you that voice actors sort of do this, because they look at the original video when dubbing, or perhaps a video that they are adding their voice to.
@@SecondTierSound Interesting, you are right thanks!
1:16 ok this is ya a very smart and original trick! We can use the movie track to conduct ourselves or , even better, to conduct whoever shares the same project. Great tip, although i don´t know how much I need it. This melody is good to show on video but for this improvisation alone still looks to be enough, unless the voice just inspires you better or you are a good singer
Yes, anything that inspires you. As I mentioned, it can be just an audio recorder, which I use myself mostly
Amazing technique!
Thank you
This is a fantastic tip!! I really enjoy your videos. Thank you!
Thanks a bunch for letting me know! 🙂
Wonderful Sam. Thank you so much! Well worth a try. :)
You're so welcome!
Very interesting technique. Did you play in the other instrument parts by ear or write them out? The piece was really great. Thanks
Not this time. I have an idea in mind and then I work it out on the piano. Sometimes I do small changes afterwards. Thank you🙂
Great tip. I've been looking for ways to escape the metronome and write more rubato pieces. A helpful follow-up to this video (for those of us wanting to output our works to sheet music in Sibelius or etc) would be to tell how to align the notes with the bars afterward. Sonar use to have "Fit Improvisation" for this but I had trouble with it. How would you do that in Cubase or other DAWs?
I'm afraid I don't know what that function is exactly. But you could set the tempo track to follow the conducting, drawing lines up and down to follow the rubato.
Cheers.
Could you make your own grid with the the new tempo. If for example this section would appear again in the composition?
In cubase you can 🙂
What a great idea. Thanks!
You're welcome 🙂
great approach being your own conductor....that's cool for music without drum beat ,but does it work for other genres? The style of music reminds me of Schindler's list....you are very talented!
Thank you, very kind. I actually think it works for all musik. Back in the day, before DAWs, people played together and had to follow each other, so no song was perfectly aligning a beat or grid. It makes music sound more expressive and alive. A song with a beat could speed up or down slightly to get a more dynamic feel. Some soul music does this in fact, where the beat feels behind, or a bit off
Cheers!
thank you very much to you for everything, for your explanations it helps a lot. I bought EW opus Hollywood orchestra and it's fabulous. I now only work with him.Thank you from France.Tony
That's great Tony. Enjoy the library!
Thank you...
❤wow iam a new producer still under training but I will need something extra to follow on UA-cam so I am glad that I came across your video. Please do you have materials and tutorial that can help?
Thanks alot
Wonderfull, I made the music for my wife song like that not click track some time I have to do some tempo changes. What kind of headphones do you are using? Thank you
Great it works! I use Beyer dynamics 770 pro
Thank you I need to replace my Audio Technic ATH-M50x
They are not bad actually
I have using the ATH fo many years but the rober around the ears is not the good quality this is the only reasong that I need to find something different. Tahnk
Then the Beyer dynamics series is a good choice
Join the rebel alliance against click tracks.
what about adding drums ?
Harder to play rubato that way. But go ahead and try.
Sounds like LOTR