NITRO VS THE WORLD!!! (HOW DOES JOHNNY DO IT?)
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- NITRO VS THE WORLD!!! (HOW DOES JOHNNY DO IT?)
We've read comment after comment with y'all asking when will the price of new boats start coming down? Well there's one company out there that consistently gives you the bottom of the barrel pricing....Nitro! How do they do it? We have no clue! Johnny's barcode bargain bin rig is the best priced rig out there and things are never going to change. Watch as we go into detail how he does it, why it matters and what the future holds for the competition. Comment below if you're running a Nitro and what your experience has been like!
Speed, Money & No Brakes!
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If someone held a gun to my head and told me I had to buy a brand new boat to live, Nitro is the only option. No level of fit & finish in the industry is worth an extra $20,000-$40,000, especially when you consider the issues that also come with more expensive boats. My z19 rode a bit hard, but it was a reliable boat and the best fishing platform I've ever been on. When the carpet pulls or the seats start to tear, I'll still be glad I'm not another $350 per month over budget for an extra 5 years.
Kind of my thoughts too. If the seats or carpet tear that's $3-5K maybe to replace and even upgrade. Still come out way ahead on the money and have a good boat.
100% Agreed
Have a 1648sc , nothing fancy but NO payments either & NO issues
Friends with nicer boats seem to have in the shop once a year
I had zero issues with my Z-19 Pro and rode great until I was on Great Lakes hydraulic jackplate and came out of the hole faster then anything out there.
Rich people likes to look good and showoff the more expensive boat but skunk on the water. Seen it many times😂
I have a 2021 Nitro Z18pro. It's what was available in the price range I was trying to be in. Always told myself I would never own a Nitro, but here we are now. That being said, it's been a reliable boat the past 2 years. No issues with fit or finish and handles lake michigan better than expected.
My buddy runs a z20 - loaded up - 75mph every day. He has had several brands and says hes unlikely to change off it. Right now, you can get the z20 bare bones for 54995. $4000 more at bass pro can get you two 12" Lowrance lives and $3500 more can get you a ghost and your loaded pretty well for $62,500. Vs the ranger 520r at 100k or a basscat puma at 109k? I couldnt find a way to justify that 40-50k.
Been running a Nitro Z19 for almost 2 years great boat don't care what anyone says 👍
Garbage boat especially a 19 footer . Take it on Lake Ontario or the st Lawrence when it’s rough and get back to me . All the newer boats are junk not just yours
@@petejablowski2123we run a z20 both places no issues. I run a 19 foot aluminum ranger with mostly no complaints. Obviously not going to handle as good as a fiberglass but I can get into other places I would be nervous about on the other lakes up here
"I'm a secret Nitro fan", great comment and the look on Andy's face....priceless!
Hahaha good thing Jordan said he was kidding or i would have made him go home!
Yes, Andy, your look, said, CUT, YOUR FIRED!!!!
I love it, keep up the great work, Team Marine Service!!
My dad ran a 1992 18ft nitro bass boat that ran flawlessly until 5 years ago when it gave up the ghost. We then found a 2008 nitro 189 sport with low hours. It has run absolutely flawlessly. All I have ever done is change plugs, add fuel/oil, and fish/play. People can talk trash all they want but I catch fish and the boat and trailer keeps humming with routine maintenance.
Had several Nitro's back in the day because I was cheap. Now I have a Champ 203. What a difference
Attended a local boat show about a month ago at a Ranger dealership. This one was named Ranger dealer of the year for 2022. They sell all the White River boats. In the showroom they had a Ranger, Nitro and Triton side by side. Ranger was 107 K. Nitro was 87 K and Triton was 82 K. All of theses were 20 footers with 250 Mercs. I am no expert, but the biggest gripe I have heard on Nitro are that the trailers are just junk! I would think that if all three brands are now built by same folks in same factories, if Nitro is bad, wouldn't they all be bad? Keep up the videos Andy. Always great info!
High volume always equates to better deals and lower prices. Daughter wanted a new Toyota went to one dealer and they said they could knock $1500 of new RAV4, went to another dealer that sold 500 plus units a month and he said pick ANY RAV4 on the lot and he'd take $6000 off, which he did. Total time from test drive to out the door 2 hours. They even let her use her $500 off she got from test driving at the state fair.
Have a 2019 Z19. Had a few issues but they take care of them quickly. Love it and thinking about getting a Z21XL
Thanks for another informative video, in my opinion it your getting a new boat every couple of years Nitro my be the way to go
I bought a 2021 Z19. The gel coat isn’t as slick of of a finish. But so far I have no complaints. I considered Phoenix , Ranger , Bass cat and Skeeter. The new 2022 prices priced me out of the game. Nitro gave me more bang for my buck. I thought I had made a mistake selling my aluminum boat until I found my Nitro.
Well my 2015 paid for and I can honestly say other than a stitch separation on the driver seat and some foam in the portside rod locker having to be re glued no other issues love mine
Customer service after the fact is what Ranger use to be. I personally wouldn’t pay Ranger money now. I’m not a Bass Cat fan, but I know they make a quality boat. And I’ve heard their customer service is great! If I was in the market, I’d go with a Phoenix, Caymas, and yes, I’d consider a Nitro!
I bought new a 2020 nitro z20 pro in 2019. Love the layout and fish ability. Just some minor issues with fit and finish and rigging. Main issue has been the horrible vortex hubs. Blown 6 in 3 years.
I loved my 2005 Nitro and never had an issue with it. I always maintained it, and kept it in the garage. I will always run a nitro and with the incentives you can find a better deal.
In all honesty I love my 2020 Z19. If I was rich or had alot more money of corse I would have a Phoenix or ikon but my nitro was in my price range and I love it! Speed/Money/No Brakes.
It all comes down to what you can afford. My dream boat is a bullet but I own a 2020 tracker 190 tx. Plus I do not fish bass tournaments anymore, we Bass fish for fun plus fish for anything else if we want. My tracker does fine for what we do. I’ve owned triton as well.
Bought a 2022 , nitro z20 and love it, I have owned others and fished from most other brands and don't know why you would want to pay the extra money for a name. No issues with the boat and would definitely purchase again. Price difference also allowed me to be able to put more of the extra toys on it that I wanted.
Only one way to find out...ask to tour their factory. 😊👍
I have my 1995 nitro dc2000 with a xri 150, love it! Re decked last year with closed foam and when the motor goes I’ll find a used 225hp to put on it
I always check out the Nitros when I head to Bass Pro, and every time I think they look nice until I start opening up the lockers. I repeat this cycle every time I go 😺
Absolute same here!
Great video Andy!
I don’t know this fella… at all… but I trust him. I was against ikon until he gave his thoughts on them. Now I’m invested!
I have a 2013 Z7 so far its been treating me pretty well,
I’ve owned a Stratos, Triton, and Ranger (before it was BPS owned) and finally my 2016 nitro z18. I’d rank my nitro #2 on that list behind the ranger. They make FINE boats and by far the best boat in the 18’ class.
If we didn’t have nitro in this world, I will not be able to go bass fishing in a brand new boat I could not afford it
LOL. the commercial that popped up was Bass Pro. Great timing
My nitro keeps me on the water but ..... fiberglass chipped off in compartments on the edges, gas smell, issues with getting on plane. The wiring underneath is a rats nest for aftermarket graphs etc. My next boat will be a Basscat.
I have a Triton. 2005 made by Earl. Love it.
I chose Nitro because I could build it all a cart. The other brands all wanted a package. Plus it still came in cheaper. Doing it this way.
I've never really been a big fan of the nitro boats, and for personal reasons! But when I saw Chris Zaldains rigging video and the little intricate details that they included in the boat build really surprised me! And it was not a special build it was literally pulled off the floor.. they are definitely changing the way they do things over there but I'm still not a huge fan but I was really surprised at some of the small details that they are paying attention to now!
The small details are what I keep telling ppl. They are far in advance and affordable with it
I have a 2018 z19 boat runs handles and fishes great, but i do agree the overall fit in finish could be better there just made cheaper than some of the other brands .
Bass pro has the largest established supply chains. The lean six sigma methodology is about reducing waste in their assembly process. Optimizing their methods to take as much cost out of the manufacturing as possible. It's a way to make boats cheaper. When you combine that with his buying power (economies of scale) he gets the best costs on components, glass, electronics, etc. And can then offer the best value in boats, or at least the best profit margins.
I have a tracker 175txw I've had it for 2 yrs and I've enjoyed it. But one thing that blows my mind is the hp rating I feel for the size of the boat it should be rated for at least a 115.
I think this was the nicest you have ever been to Johnny.
They probably do use cheaper carpet, seat materials, and hose materials and clamps for bilge and live wells. But all the other components (gauges, pumps, latches, switches) are manufactured by other companies. The blemishes in fiberglass are caused by workers that lay the glass and spray paint the gelcoat. If they would go to a c trailer and take a little more pride they would be a good boat. I have seen others that have 2 year old boats and there carpet and seats trashed from sun.
It's like anything else, people who take care of their shit rarely have issues and people that dont take care of their shit always have problems.
Most boats I've seen break have under 60hrs.dont care how bad ya treat it nothing should break in 60hrs on the water period.seen several phenix,ranger ballistic nitro and cats getting pulled in
@@bwspacity But you have to ask yourself with the majority breaking under 60hrs how certain are you that the person performed a proper break in?
And like everything that is mass produced you are bound to have some manufacturing duds that go out. In a perfect world this would never happen but we all know this ain't no perfect world.
Nitro backed by a great dealer is the way to go. My first two boats have been nitros. I haven’t had any major issues, but I also have an awesome dealer that took care of all the small issues. First boat was a 2013 290 sport, just sold that and got a 2022 z21. Dealer is Thayer’s marine out of Norwich CT
I'm currently running a 2013 290 sport with a 200 verado and I love it.
You made great point.if Nitro uses the best products. What are they using in the making of the Rangers.
Great wiring in my 2021 Z-19Pro had absolutely zero issued and towed from WV to Texas to St Lawrence to Chesapeake Bay , Potomac River and zero trailer issues...ZERO!
Boat performance is excellent but can only speak for 2021 to 2023 models.
Running a RANGER 520R 2022 now Zero Issues
Ranger uses a higher grade of chemical resisn from Ashland Chemical about $10k higher priced per tanker truck load.
Dandy Andy you need to make a road trip to Table Rock and ride/fish for a day with Stacey King. I went with him last week and was very impressed with the ride in particular and the quality overall. I guarantee he will always be on fish on his home lake! On December 1, 2022 I entered him and all of his accomplishment in the Congressional Record on the house floor in Washington, DC He's 74 now but runs around his boat like a 34 year old. One of the nicest guys I know to boot.
The inflation and gift cards vary on different boats and you get a extended 2 years on the warranty on mercury motors so u get 5 years total
My cousin’s fishing buddy got a new 2021 z18 and last week his rod locker bolts came off when he went to open it..😳😳😳and my cousin was gonna get one but now he’s has second thoughts! My buddy has an older one and he likes it.
Andy!!!🤠 what's up!!! Loving the hair style👍 keep the updates coming😁 what about the trolling motor challenge? 🤔 Garmin, Lowrance,Minnkota,Motor Guide🤠 let's do it!!!! If not make up something ok👍 Cool insights and view points😁
Looked at a 20 Patriot Triton last week with two 12’s and Ghost with active target for 70, just no polls on it
Whether we like it or not Johnny has the power to do whatever he pleases with this industry.
Like Putin
Yeah because people support him. I got a raw deal with a ranger I bought brand new. I will never give him another dollar.
@@davidkeppler8851 same the new ranger was a gel coat mess!
@@mikethetoolman8776 I'd call the factory about the gel coat issue
@@angelahuddleston740 it went back when new last fall was gone for 5 weeks fixing 27 issues look great now ut hasn't been in water yet either
One thing to think about. Everybody gets a BPS flyer in the mail.
Neve had a problem with a Nitro because I’ve never had one.
Great video. I bought a 2021 Ranger RT178. Great fishing boat. Poor hull paint job. I have had to spray paint on the hull to keep it looking good. My boat has an Ultrex 80 pd. thrust on the bow. I love it. It has the I-pilot with GPS. It is wonderful. It has a poor intake for refueling and it takes about 10 minutes just to put 5 gallon of gas in the tank. The dash is too far away from the drivers seat. Poor engineering job. But, overall, it is better quality than the Tracker which I have had 2 of them. You are right about White River Marine group. They are in control. I have 7 Johnny Morris rods and reels. Boy do they stand behind them. I had 2 situations with 2 of my reels and 1 rod. They replaced all 3 with brand new ones. No questions asked. Very happy with customer service. In thinking about a new fiberglass boat comparing the Z20 NITRO Vs. Ranger Z520R. There is about $30,000.00 dollars savings. Same equipment. That kind of money came buy a lot of new tackle and food,etc,. Its just that Ranger still carries a big name in the bass boat business. It comes down to affordability. Nitro wins on that.
2010 Z-7 200 proxs runs like a dream.
Had a mid 90s 190 dc. Definitely wasn't up to par with other boats, but I was poor and I could afford it. With that being said the hull was solid in the mid 90s
I have a 1994 190 DC with a 150XRI that’s blown. Served me well for a long time, bought it used in 2010. Finally gave up on 2019, paid 4900 dollars for it.
Own a 2021 Nitro zv20 has been to the dealer multiple times for issues from windshield to z touch panel not working. Currently it is down at the factory for the 2nd time getting fiberglass cracks fixed. These are cracks that came back a 2nd time in the same spot after they fixed it the 1st time.
I have a 2020 Z19. Have not had any issues with the boat itself. Do have issues with the trailer. The plastic caps they use over the hubs keep breaking.
With almost 20 years of LEAN experience it's just a fancy word to say "bean counters run the show and monitor every step to cut cost." We can clearly see where the shortcomings come from in the Nitro. Wood used through the hull, substandard fiberglass, seat material, carpet, hardware, wire, etc. Every step gets scrutinized to cut cost and in the end Nitro runs on the ragged edge of total failure to quality buy. Bass Cat focuses on quality, performance and customer service. You are going to pay more but get a far superior product and if there was an issue with the boat you are treated like family not like a chump off the street.
I can’t prove it but I do believe for the last 2-3 yrs they have removed the wood from the hulls. They were the last to do so in the industry.
They have some marine wood in the compartment dividers, but the stringers and transom are not wood anymore.
I rode in a Z21 at the Okeechobee Elite Series Event as a Marshall and I was impressed with the ride and the seats were actually more comfortable than the 2 Phoenixes I rode in the other 2 days. I was surprised and impressed.
There is a good weight difference between the 20ft nitro and 20ft phoenix. That alone plays a lot into the ride quality. I drove someone back in my Skeeter to weigh in when their nitro blew the motor for the second time, and now they will be looking into a skeeter 😁
@@mitchbrumbeloe7079 what does nitro have to do with blowing a motor? literally makes zero sense
Nothing, they liked the ride of my Skeeter better. Read my comment again and think about it. I thought we were talking about ride quality?? Or at least I was.
@mitchbrumbeloe7079 you make no sense the engine on the nitro is not made by nitro its like your saying the engines on a nitro are bad quality
Johnny already had a couple tournaments for non pro, white river product owners. And if I remember right it was 10k prize..
i totaly agree i had a ranger for 24 years in 2017 i traded for a z19 only for the price Pro choice marine in warsaw missouri sold a z19 ready to go for 45000 dollars the nitro fit and finish is not near as good as was my 1995 ranger
I’ve commented quite a bit about my 2020 Z20 nitro. Haven’t had many major issues except with the stupid touchpad. This winter got my switch plate conversion done so it should be a non issue now.
The standard pricing was a big deal to me. When I bought new I was totally sold on a Phoenix, but between dealer fees and trade in value, the nitro was literally 30k cheaper and fully loaded.
Right now the skeeter zxr is the only package boat that is a true deal, the nitros no longer have poles as part of the price.
My 2021 Nitro Z19 Pro had same issue with touch pad. Went on for years just like the ultrex and the power switch,
I’ve had 2 Stratos and three rangers. Loved them all. Got to fish out of a 110k bass cat recently and to my surprise, although a badass boat, fit and finish wasn’t that different with any of them. Sloppy wiring, fasteners already falling out, trailer lights not fitted properly etc. sure the ride may be better from boat to boat but once you get in to a 20’ plus bass boat (modern) they are all gonna fish similar and now that I am done big tournament running, 48 years old and much wiser with my money, I’d pick a nitro strictly for financial but also understanding that resale is what it is. All bass boats are gonna need some constant TLC.
I can tell you from me excited that the fit and finish of the basscat will be better. Plus, it'll maintain that quality much longer.
Need to do a video on the mercury dts system.
I would like to know more about it
I bought a brand new 2022 nitro I had it ordered last year with custom colors. The boat is great it’s fast rides smooth no issues BUT with the paint there is some darker and lighter spots on the passenger side of the boat and also on the left side of the console like a weird flow line. Not sure if the gel dried to quick or what. You really don’t notice it unless your just really looking over the boat. That is my biggest complaint so far
I just bought a 2023 yesterday and I noticed the same thing when i got home. . Like a wax spot or something.
Well 6 sigma, waste is usually wasted movements, movements that do not add value to the customer. Volume is huge cost reduction. So this is probably the biggest cost savings. But with volume comes more manufacturing variation, which where your quality issues comes from.
Most of us can't justify spending 70k on a boat much less 100k plus. Is the quality on a ranger or cat better than a nitro, yes. Is it 25k better, that's up to the buyer to decide.
Comment below if you're running a Nitro and what your experience has been like!
I have a 2021 Z18 and have had no issues. I also do not fish every weekend like others. Biggest lake, where I live and fish is 3,060 acres. So, I do not give it the abuse that others do. What sold me on the boat was I got more boat with more features for less money than I would have got with the Ranger Z518. I really did go back and forth for 2 years before pulling the trigger. I am not sad by no means.
I have a 2004 nitro nx750 dc. Got it new and prob shouldn't talk about it but it's been flawless except a Mercury voltage regulator. My seats are original and only the passenger seat tearing at the seams due to co anglers leaning over to get tackle under passenger console. I need a new boat but even Nitro is becoming to expensive for most people. O Wait you can get 20 year loans so you can afford it lol
2000 nx 882, 150 mercury xr6. Galvanized trailer. No problems in 23 years. I do regular maintenance religiously and store it in a garage after cleaning after every outing. Maybe they had no bean counters back then. Biggest expense has been tires.
I had a Bass Tracker 1600 TF, one of the first fiberglass models they made. It was great for what it was. No issues. I also had a 2013 Nitro Z8. Huge layout, livewells were amazing, trailer was not great, but boat was really good. No issues. Lots of my friends have Nitros and they fish well. They are wayyyy cheaper than other brands.
2008 z-8 Love it ! Paid off < Now the 150 merc EFI on the back ! That's another story 😮
On a different subject I have a question? And it is , will the monster marine cranking battery be ok to run on my 2016 pro xs 250 two stroke without messing up the charging system
would be cool if you went over different boats besides glass bass boats. How about some normal joe boats? Like the ones behind you being worked on? crest liner and tracker deep v?
Had a 2014 Nitro and it lasted 4 years then carpet and seats started coming apart. Garage kept and back then I fished maybe 1 once a month on average. Now a Ranger owner and honestly I dont see anything that tells me I bought into a better quality boat. Nitro is the way to go for the price. That being said prices in 2014 I paid $36K for an ‘18 ft. 175 pro xs. Todays price with the options you’re well north of $65K. It’s crazy and unfortunate how much boats have gone up.
Good video as usual Andy
Thanks 👍
Awesome videos
Doesn’t he already own the BPT pro tour. Being facetious. I agree with you completely.
Great Video-Business Model is simple as it is based on an economy of scale. To the average angler, the difference between a Z21 and a 21' Ranger is the Brand recognition and a few gadgets. I have owned both. I actually live in Flippin, AR so I have seen and talked to line workers at both Ranger and Triton. Doubtful Triton will be in the portfolio long. My last purchase was soured by building a boat on line with quote guaranteed for 6 months. It was a Nitro ZV21. After 4 months went to Springfield to complete build only to find out that they would not honor the build or quote. Left pissed off and bought a 2175 lund. I wish Johnny the best and I am sure that as the industry gets smaller (Brunswick, White River, ....) the margin for error will get smaller. Note-This is how to kill a giant
I'm a bullet owner and if I had the money I would own an older Allison XB2003 as well. And a bullet 20cc.
Craftsmanship and quality over quantity.
Never owned or spent time in a nitro so I won't say bad things about them but I just don't think mass produced products can compare to hand made pride.
I definitely wish the evinrude Etech bolted to my Carolina a different motor manufacturer
The contingency money is 8,000 this year. Last year it was 7,000. As long as it's a sanctioned tournament, with at least 60 boats, and u win said tournament, then u get paid by them. Nitro, ranger, or triton
Been running my 22 Z-19 for a little less than a year now and the only complaint I have is with the trailer but other than that the boats fast, smooth, and comfortable to fish on
I have a 2016 skeeter I bought new and think that trailer is junk too.
I’m sorry but this industry is way out of site for the average blue collar worker like myself. These boats are and always have been for the Richman.When they decided to make them affordable which will be never then I will decide to look at them but I feel everybody builds shit! Today
I ran a z20 for 4 years. I had zero issues with boat and trailer. The Merc on the other hand was a pos. Nothing but issues. Not saying the bot was the best there is, but the only thing I can complain about was the ride. She was a bit stiff in the chop.
Johnny Morris does own a tournament trail. Biggest payout tournament in history. Bass pro tour US Opens. Have to run a Johnny Morris boat and be a amateur (under 100k in winnings). Championship payout is 1 mil
Unfortunately working for a automaker at one point I understand the quality issues. Most people are overworked and underpaid and things slip through the cracks. Happens in all manufacturing. The other brands are smaller and can take their time to make a better boat. But at almost 30 to 40 k cheaper it’s the average mans only option sometimes
And I do have to say that Johnny Morris does take care of his employees
You got that right. Been with Bass Pro Shops for 18 years and they take care of us like no other company.
The lady at Ranger parts told me the same thing about JM !!
I have a 1981 ranger with a 115 hp sea horse and regional ranger trailer still kicking like a chicken.
When you see Ott Defoe, Edwin Evers, KVD and Chris Zaldain running Nitros… they are some of the best in the world and could choose any brand but run nitros should say something… I run a 2020 Z21 Nitro and love it and it’s fishability…
....because they are paid to run Nitro's! ;)
@@TeamMarineService I realize there is a money factor involved but as a professional I feel like they wouldn’t put their life and career in jeopardy in an inferior or sub par boat… no one’s fishing in a tournament in a kingfisher or a terry lol
@@jrsfishingchannel8082 Or take the biggest paycheck. Since your livelihood depends on it, as you said.
The pros only use them 1 yr. They are is paid to use the Nitro. If anyone else offered a better boat they would jump. KVD is so tied into BPS and White river. He isn’t going anywhere.
Great video Andy, sad but true nobody can compete with Johnny nor even God. Can we say monopoly
I would buy one if I could get it rigged to my liking. I got a vexus instead. Lots of money but I got it just how I wanted it
I have a 23 z19 pretty much bone stock and the only thing i have found that really burns me for the price is the passenger side consol. The inserts keep pulling out and drives me nuts, but that would b nice to have a bass pro circuit especially on the north east coast cause there is nothing here like that
I have a 1996 Nitro 884 Savage. Runs great. Looks horrendous... Well, it did... I just had the hull compounded, buffed, polished, sealed, and waxed. She looks great but needs the carpet replaced (typical old boat stuff). I am in the poor man category and cannot drop $70, $80, or even $100K on a boat. I don't even have a chartplotter, much less DI or SI. I love my old boat but it does have some quirks due to age. I have always been a fan of Allison, Blazer and some of the other high end boats but budget dictated my purchase and budget will dictate what I buy when I replace my old craft.
Who else sells fiberglass bass boats internationally? They are surely making bank from overseas aswell. Here in sweden its only Ranger, Trition and Nitro fibreglass bass boats for sale at one shop.
Hey Andy, I’ve been running a Tracker 195TXW for a couple of years and love how shallow I can get in it. However, rough water scars the hell out of me because I’m worried about losing the majority of my gear if it gets swamped. Do you know if the Tracker will sink to the bottom or just to the gunnels like the fiberglass boats?
I was at Cabela’s and a ranger bass boat fiberglass$96,000,000 and a ranger aluminum bass boat $36,000,000
They could do an invitational like seaark does. Can only enter if you own that boat. Could you imagine how huge a Nitro invitational would be???
Couple years ago Johnny did a million dollar open
I was in the marine business for over 20 years owning my own dealership. We sold a high end fishing boat and a mid/low end fishing boat. I sold 3/1 mid range to high end. We had as many issues with the high end as the low end, AND the customer with the high end boat many times made the sale of that boat almost unbearable. Not always, but in our experience the customers made the difference in the buying/service experience. I now own a Nitro, and knew going in the build quality was not as good as some other boats, but was willing to forgo that for the cost differences. My boat has been flawless, and whatever I did to it was for the enhancement of the boat, not on a repair. If I had any gripe it would be for service and the customer care at Bass Pro and Cabella's. They are just terrible, and with any product..........it is how you service your customer after the sale that makes the difference. I picked up my boat..........took it home, and spent the week rigging and propping it correctly. 95% of the population can't do that. So..........is a Nitro the Bentley of the boat world, NO............but you have trouble with Bentley's too, at 10X the price of a Ford. Buy your boat..........take care of it...........service it correctly............and it will give you the long life you expect. Or you can be this guy, that brought me his 2010 Evinrude and said..........."Best motor I have ever had........I have not done one thing to it since it was new" Gearcase looks like road tar, spark plugs have no electrode left, mice have lived in the powerhead for centuries....and I can't even get the prop off to lube the prop shaft. Don't even want to touch it...........because whatever happens after this........ITS MY FAULT.
You are right on all of this Judy! Thanks for the comment
nitro, the bayliner of bass boats
Here's my $.02 buddy. Get a used Nitro or Bass Tracker as a first boat to get in the game. Get soms time on the water and figure out what you like, what you want, what you need, and most importantly how you settle into fishing. Sell said White River product and get the glass boat to fit your itch for the next boat or get a GatorTrax for the rest of your life if you know EXACTLY what you want.
They are advertising the Z20 with a proxs250 for $54,995. A Phoenix of this nature would be $90,000-$100,000. They say it’s tournament ready,whatever that means
I used to think KVD was crazy back in the early 90s to be fishing from a Nitro when he could fish all those other great boats. I guess he saw something nobody else saw
$$$$
He used to go through a few a year
@@quintinkale1242 I’m sure he did
And KVD was their best salesman.
Hey I’m not nocking them a boats a boat I’d rather fish out of a nitro then sit at the house if it’s what the person likes and can afford why not. I have a bass cat myself love it but if I had to buy a new boat and was restricted to 45k I’d be in a nitro and getting the best bang for my buck
I can't say about the way nitro builds their boats but I know at Ranger the quality control is a huge factor and they double check the boats every step of the way
Really? I have a 2018 Ranger Riata that I bought new. Rear livewell leaked over the top enough to flood the rod locker. Back to the factory to get it fixed, two months later supposedly fixed… still leaking over the top. Found out they knew there was a problem with the top cap not sealing around the live well. Got some minnows put them in the front baitwell it was leaking over the top flooded rod locker again. Went fishing in the rain rod locker flooded because the drain drains directly into the rod locker. Went fishing early morning, mooring light didn’t work it had never been connected the wire was laying in the bottom, needless to say no fishing that day had to spend half the day looking for the wire and connecting it up.
There is always water in the bilge because the drains from the livewell etc are a dripping water at the transom. “ Buy a Ranger buy the best” 😂😂😂😂 whoever did the quality control on my boat must’ve been gone that day.
@@adrianharrison4728 I'm not saying nothing slips by as I'm sure from time to time it does. But I worked at the ranger plant and now I am at a bass pro store and I see how some of the other manufacturers boats come in and a ranger would never make it out the door the way some of the other arrive.
@@adrianharrison4728 sry to hear about your bad experience.
@@angelahuddleston740 I’m going to see if I can fix the remaining problems when it warms up. Have a great day.
Waited 2 years for new Bass Cat .... I watched Pro Staff get new boats, but never got mine.
When I canceled my order to buy a used boat, the dealer refused to refund my deposit
Question is how low quality is the boat is it gonna be messed up in just a short period of time or is gonna be broken down or having problems are you having issues on a vacation and wind up going out the window me personally I would much rather pay the extra money for a damn good quality boat that I know I don’t have to worry about but that’s just me
Johnny has his own tour in the mlf.
Purchased my 2023 Z20.
List of problems :
1) carpet in lockers are poorly cut to fit, looks like my 10yr installed it.
2) driver console internal wiring full of fiberglass dust
3) Driver console wire loosely installed and just thrown in , I had to zip tie everything down.
4) plier/cup holder next to the built in ice chest was over cut that the top screws was installed and screwed into air only. Had to drill another hole higher were the was fiberglass below.
5) trolling motor wires pinched under the foot bracket from the factory, just poor production floor people who just don’t care.
6) driver console had noticeably gel coat defect which I informed basspro, they said they will warranty it, 4 months now, all is quite.
7) trailer wheel cover stepping rubber pad on trailer lifting of the from day one. I peeled it off and replaced with aluminum Diamond plate.
8) battery tray with strap useless, battery slides around everywhere. Replaced with better trays with no movement.
9) manufacturing dust all over boat and inside lockers. Found carpet trimming under locker.
10) randomly loose screws from factory, I went through and tighten the entire boat.
11) built in ice chest poorly design on holding sandwich tray, that thing just flops around with nothing securing it.
12) No shut off switch to cut all battery power. I had to install one that truly shut all power 100%.
13) Trolling motor support pad installation was not aligned. I had to unscrew and reposition it to be in the center.
14) edge finish on the wind deflector should be smooth but they just bandsaw cut and install with rough edges.
15) Fuse box full of grim and dust on the inside.
There’s more, but I’ve listed enough. You get what you pay for.
TOP Quality, not by a long shot. Lowest price YES.
Being honest though, most boats other than maybe basscat will have similar issues.
Took my Z20 out 4 times and every time I have at least 1-2 gallon of water build up in the hull.
Cheap and poor installation with silicone added to the end plumbing of all tubing.
Both live well leaks. Now I have to redo all the plumbing to make sure no more water leaks.
Keep in mind my boat is brand new 2023.
Just wait till Johnny Morris sees Andy’s team marine wrapped Ikon boat.