Why Somalia is About to Split Into Three States

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    Recent constitutional changes threaten to split Somalia once more, as Puntland announced that it no longer recognises the government's authority. So in this video, we'll explain what's happened, why the change is controversial and what might happen next.
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  • @TLDRnewsGLOBAL
    @TLDRnewsGLOBAL  2 місяці тому +668

    CORRECTION: As a number of commenters have pointed it, it's not quite right to say (as we do at 1:20) that Somalia is split into ethnic groups. Somalia is actually pretty ethnically homogenous, and the relevant divide here is between the various clans in the country, who don't always get along. Apologies, and thank you to those of you who pointed this out - we hope you nonetheless enjoyed the video!

    • @JustAnotherAccount8
      @JustAnotherAccount8 2 місяці тому +27

      Anything to blame it on colonialists though right?

    • @Mimas2115
      @Mimas2115 2 місяці тому +53

      @@JustAnotherAccount8 But they're not blaming it on colonialists. They're blaming it on the 3 rival clans

    • @JustAnotherAccount8
      @JustAnotherAccount8 2 місяці тому +8

      @@Mimas2115 1:11

    • @Ahmed-gg4oz
      @Ahmed-gg4oz 2 місяці тому

      well the drawn boarders is whre our problems began.@@JustAnotherAccount8

    • @Whenyouarent
      @Whenyouarent 2 місяці тому +14

      Lets just agree to recolonise Africa

  • @davidioanhedges
    @davidioanhedges 2 місяці тому +1131

    The Somali federal government is using the promise of stability to create a dictatorship... and Puntland and especially Somaliland already have stability so understandably are not fooled

    • @lubu2960
      @lubu2960 2 місяці тому +37

      somaliland is also in a civil war.

    • @mohamedabdukadir3271
      @mohamedabdukadir3271 2 місяці тому +24

      Somalia is more complex than you think,

    • @EM-tx3ly
      @EM-tx3ly 2 місяці тому +76

      @@lubu2960
      Nope
      It’s stable

    • @vyran7044
      @vyran7044 2 місяці тому +44

      @@Helloer123 Thats a rather grim lookout for the future of the UK you drew there. ;p

    • @bukhariapdelahi7072
      @bukhariapdelahi7072 2 місяці тому

      This western channel is so biased bruv these things happen in somalia it is not a big deal, the next day you will see them sitting at the same table, thsi channel always hating on somalia

  • @luishernandezblonde
    @luishernandezblonde 2 місяці тому +205

    Somalia is basically a clannish state. It has one ethnic people, but dozens of clans with completely different aims. When you have a clannish system, you either heed to a power-sharing system, or either become a fragmented nation with its own destruction.

    • @Izmoa
      @Izmoa 2 місяці тому +21

      I think the problem was that Somalia never had a proper unifying time period. There used to be several city states and somali kingdoms spread throughout, but never one controlling all somali lands. Because most people lived nomadically and were not city dwellers. After colonization everything becomes a mess. Italians and brits causes mistrust betweeen clans, bans the somali system of goverment and impose their vile colonial rule.
      Now we have people who grew up in that degenerate system, and continues it broken legacy by working further on a western form of goverment inherited by colonialist that made it with bad intentions, nor is the system catered for somali society. Western style rule is not compatible with a clan system.
      In my opinion, this edited version of western rule needs to be abolished and western countries that reinforce this rule need to be expelled. Just like how the Sahel countries are currently expelling french and american soldiers, that are stationed there to destabilize the country and siphon out resources to their homelands.
      Then there must be either an unifying war or for the major clans to comrpomise and make amends. Because the fact is that system of goverment and the current situation is beneficial for foreigners that use trawls boats on the somali coast, dump nuclear waste in the nearby ocean and plant their military bases all over the country.
      A radical anti western solution is needed, just like the ICU in 2004. But unfortunately when that happened the US and other westerners swiftly invaded the country, wreaked havoc and reinstated their western ideologies.
      The worst enemy for the west is a country that is prosperous, but it's ideologies are not aligned with their own.

    • @notyourtypicalfarah7194
      @notyourtypicalfarah7194 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@Izmoa finally someone with same opinion. You're, Somalia was never a real thing and putting different tribes and clans together was a mistake. Power sharing will never happen since a lot Somalis are narcissistic.

    • @kothar6159
      @kothar6159 Місяць тому +3

      @@notyourtypicalfarah7194 We decided to join each other, many people are missing the point, the primary issue was annexation of Somali land into Ethiopia and Kenya, the British pushed this through due to their relation with those countries.
      And then the soviet backed coup in the 60's, and the eventual downfall was the 70's war with Ethiopia when Soviets backed Ethiopia instead and saved them from defeat and permanent loss of territory through a massive airlift of military supplies worth $1 billion, the arrival of more than 12,000 Cuban soldiers and airmen and 1,500 Soviet advisors, led by General Vasily Petrov.
      Foreign intervention is a common theme with Ethiopia in the 16th century it was the Portuguese and in the 20th century the Cubans and Soviets.

    • @Izmoa
      @Izmoa Місяць тому

      @@notyourtypicalfarah7194 literally not what i said. The problem is the western form of rule is not compatible with somalis. I am against democracy because it is inherently made by gaalo for gaalo not for muslims or somalis.
      You even have the US flag on your profile picture when they have invade Somalia and countless other muslim countries. They also killed millions and stole wealth from the ummah.

    • @Izmoa
      @Izmoa Місяць тому +4

      @@kothar6159 to be honest foreign intervention is just a play on words, its usually armed foreign invasions in reality.
      Its like saying expat instead of immigrant to make it sound better.
      I agree with british being an issue. They divide the somalis along colonial borders.

  • @bababababababa6124
    @bababababababa6124 2 місяці тому +856

    You’re acting like Somalia hasn’t already split apart… it’s a free for all anarchy masquerading as a nation

    • @abby-a
      @abby-a 2 місяці тому +40

      This might be true that they have already split but many nations around the world do not recognize these nations as an independent country

    • @pigeonmane
      @pigeonmane 2 місяці тому +25

      bro theirs literally 14 different parties fight not including al-Shabaab Ethiopia Kenya uae and Qatar and the houthis its a mess ong

    • @gr8life12
      @gr8life12 2 місяці тому +58

      It only takes an honest Somali to know, there are only few people who are loyal to a flag or a nation. Everyone else is either tribalist or indifferent.

    • @Mark-gd2ti
      @Mark-gd2ti 2 місяці тому +24

      ​​they will if it suits them.
      And recognition is a strange word, look at the USA with Taiwan... Even my country doesn't recognize Palestine but has a Palestinian ambassador.

    • @pigeonmane
      @pigeonmane 2 місяці тому +6

      @@gr8life12 bro every one their is nationalist and patriotic i remember i was their during the port deal every guy was ready to go fight for Somalia and not for tribes clearly this democracy thing doesn't work for countries like these we need to find a new way to rule multiple clans

  • @tigrignareadings-5484
    @tigrignareadings-5484 2 місяці тому +313

    They are not different ethnic groups. They are all Somalis in ethnicity, but within this ethnicity, there are different clans and tribes.

    • @Planet_Hunter
      @Planet_Hunter 2 місяці тому +18

      That’s I thought, big oversight by TLDR

    • @Ahmed-gg4oz
      @Ahmed-gg4oz 2 місяці тому +32

      correct this person doesn't even know what he's reporting

    • @theancientsancients1769
      @theancientsancients1769 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Planet_HunterTDLR is spreading propaganda lies a simple Google search or Wikipedia will clarify that . Somalia is not a multi ethnic or tribal country. It has clans but there is no clan war even. There is a political conflict between few individuals which most people are tired of

    • @Gabdoon2
      @Gabdoon2 2 місяці тому +2

      @mudaneyegbicadaan8860 wtf who asked

    • @pirate5489
      @pirate5489 2 місяці тому

      @@Planet_HunterTLDR is British asset propaganda

  • @dulio12385
    @dulio12385 2 місяці тому +450

    Ethiopia is probably cackling with glee right now.

    • @lukewarm6369
      @lukewarm6369 2 місяці тому +41

      Most likely question is will the amharas revolt soon

    • @sideclipz5053
      @sideclipz5053 2 місяці тому +43

      @@lukewarm6369 Exactly you could argue things are worse in Ethiopia 2 genocides, I dont see Ethiopia staying United for long at this rate

    • @TheHajinator
      @TheHajinator 2 місяці тому +27

      They have their own problems

    • @ThePanEthiopian
      @ThePanEthiopian 2 місяці тому +29

      ​@@sideclipz5053we have been killing each other for so long that we don't even recognize it anymore

    • @divinechariot5542
      @divinechariot5542 2 місяці тому

      Ethiopia is barely better than Somalia. They literally have a major genocide going on and just finished a war that killed over half a million people.

  • @kacangajaib1563
    @kacangajaib1563 2 місяці тому +538

    Somaliland be like; "Told you, its better going Solo now"

    • @bukhariapdelahi7072
      @bukhariapdelahi7072 2 місяці тому

      This western channel is so biased bruv these things happen in somalia it is not a big deal, the next day you will see them sitting at the same table, thsi channel always hating on somalia

    • @shafsteryellow
      @shafsteryellow 2 місяці тому +2

      Wrong

    • @kilershakazulu400
      @kilershakazulu400 2 місяці тому +3

      Somalia is sovereign nation.

    • @deeqahmed2291
      @deeqahmed2291 2 місяці тому +24

      @mudaneyegbicadaan8860 why do you guys oppose Somaliland? Just curious. Sool has representation in Somaliland parliament

    • @divinechariot5542
      @divinechariot5542 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@deeqahmed2291Aside from the fact that there are many people that don't want to be apart of Somaliland, the military killed innocents and started a civil war only to later collaborate with Ethiopia on selling land away

  • @omarahmed5372
    @omarahmed5372 2 місяці тому +240

    Tragic bit is if Puntland had elected for this route 30 years ago they would have been leaps ahead major factor holding them back was the association with paper state

    • @theancientsancients1769
      @theancientsancients1769 2 місяці тому +5

      Somalia 🇸🇴 is not splitting up! Somalia is Not a multi ethnic multi multi-religious country like neighbouring countries.

    • @bereketkassahun4353
      @bereketkassahun4353 2 місяці тому +20

      @@theancientsancients1769 but it has ISIS, Alqaeda, etc. The regions are also declaring their independence, who did that in your neighboring country?? Somalia is not better in any shape or form, no matter how much you would like it to be.

    • @whatthebeepvideos
      @whatthebeepvideos 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@theancientsancients1769 Do you want to bet?

    • @BurningMad
      @BurningMad 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@theancientsancients1769sometimes ethnicity and religion isn't enough to hold a country together if the people feel a real difference. After all, Germany and Austria are not the same country, nor France and Wallonia, nor all the different Spanish-speaking countries in the America's.

    • @theancientsancients1769
      @theancientsancients1769 2 місяці тому +3

      @@bereketkassahun4353 Somaliand region is divided . With 2 of its largest regions joining the Somali federal government. Puntland 99 percent of people never ever would accept breaking away from Somalia . They are the most patriotic of Somalis it's where the pirates are from. They just don't like the current president. Nothing new
      Somalia has no IS. It has Al Shabab which largely got defeated
      So I don't know what you are talking about.

  • @kothar6159
    @kothar6159 2 місяці тому +60

    Couple mistake you make in the video, there is one major ethnic group in Somalia called the Somali(who share the same religion, language and culture) who are broken into tribal 4 major families/confederations(Dir, Darood, Isaaq and Hawiye) Puntland and SSC are primarily Darood while Somaliland is Dir and Isaaq.

    • @theancientsancients1769
      @theancientsancients1769 2 місяці тому

      It's not tribes it's clans . The is no clan conflict! I don't see a war going on based on that even. I see few corrupt foreign sponsored politicians at each other's throats

    • @timaweyyne
      @timaweyyne 2 місяці тому

      so when Garguurte slashed the constitution he wants to become a king because the Prime minister has no power while the states won't have a say.. this is recipe for doctorship

    • @mjanaalechannel977
      @mjanaalechannel977 Місяць тому +2

      Bro, stop it.. blah.. Somalis have no idea what common sense is. Unity and national identity If you do not believe in the essence of Somalia, why do people not unite! For example, a person from Bosaso who comes to Hargeisa or Borami feels like a foreigner in the region. So the concept of Somaliness does not exist 😅

    • @kothar6159
      @kothar6159 Місяць тому

      @@mjanaalechannel977 Not really Hargeisa and Borama has many foreigners and other Somali clans, there wouldn't be issues in urban areas, I have no personal experience in PL and Southern Somalia though.

    • @mjanaalechannel977
      @mjanaalechannel977 Місяць тому +1

      My brother, I am talking about Somalia as a people who do not believe in each other, and there is no feeling of unity, and there is no feeling of patriotism among the people. If someone leaves his native city to go to another city then he becomes a stranger. He sees himself in a place belonging to the clans of another people . Like in another country 🤔

  • @Ali-bu6lo
    @Ali-bu6lo 2 місяці тому +59

    1:17 The divisions in Somalia aren't from ethnic groups, they're from clans. Somalia is actually one the most homogeneous countries ethnic wise with 85% of the population being from Somali ethnicity and language.

    • @Abdulkga
      @Abdulkga 2 місяці тому +12

      The only entity that’s 100% ethnic Somalis is Somaliland; Puntland is 80% Somalis and 20% from Zanzibar and other Bantu groups; Southern Somalia- including Mogadishu- is 60% ethnic Somalis, while the rest are different Bantu groups, Barawanis, Bajunis , Banadirs ….and so on.

    • @juliusmaranga-zh6be
      @juliusmaranga-zh6be Місяць тому

      You have said a truth most Somali darood and hawiye avoid to mention all the time

    • @juliusmaranga-zh6be
      @juliusmaranga-zh6be Місяць тому

      65% is Somali 35 is the rest

    • @cushitic173
      @cushitic173 Місяць тому

      somalia is not homogenous this is a lie thats spread somalia has 13 different languages and many different tribes

    • @giaxxx5085
      @giaxxx5085 Місяць тому

      @@Abdulkgalies puntland is 100% Somali go spread your lies elsewhere gaal raac

  • @exposedclickbaitaRblx
    @exposedclickbaitaRblx 2 місяці тому +267

    I hope Somalia actually lets down these regions and modernizes what they have left instead of fighting over desert.

    • @davidioanhedges
      @davidioanhedges 2 місяці тому +70

      Somaliland and Puntland are the bits that have resources and stability ...and is not just desert

    • @Mark-gd2ti
      @Mark-gd2ti 2 місяці тому +22

      Somalia ha so many problems because it's divided and has tribal tensions it would be better for everyone if they leave each other.

    • @exposedclickbaitaRblx
      @exposedclickbaitaRblx 2 місяці тому +35

      @@davidioanhedges the only thing that puntland could actually benefit Somalia is the trade route, but since that trade route is being interrupted by Houthis, it doesn't matter so much now.

    • @exposedclickbaitaRblx
      @exposedclickbaitaRblx 2 місяці тому +3

      @@Mark-gd2ti agreed

    • @Klaus74-yd1ur
      @Klaus74-yd1ur 2 місяці тому +15

      ​@@Helloer123stop blaming other countries for your failures

  • @johnyoh6107
    @johnyoh6107 2 місяці тому +135

    the main reason our prime minister choose to recognize somalilands independence is to draw attention away from our ongoing "civil war". But motive aside i think somaliland should be independent if they want to do be so.

    • @abdirahimismail1687
      @abdirahimismail1687 2 місяці тому

      @mudaneyegbicadaan8860 u cant exist on u own like somaliland did. u either gets supported by putland or get fked

    • @ibro8855
      @ibro8855 2 місяці тому

      ua-cam.com/video/KcPuRT2uB2g/v-deo.htmlsi=dQvL3qEoVI5Yx7Q0​@mudaneyegbicadaan8860

    • @Meireles-ct4fy
      @Meireles-ct4fy 2 місяці тому +1

      Can you please explain the civil war problem? I'm European and we don't have a lot news about what happens in most African nation.

    • @sameedchowdhury2896
      @sameedchowdhury2896 2 місяці тому +6

      @@Meireles-ct4fy The youtube channel you're watching has videos all about the civil war problem.

    • @josiaha723
      @josiaha723 2 місяці тому

      You have to be incredibly stupid to believe he would risk a conflict with another nation just to draw attention from another conflict. It is for access to the sea.

  • @MrCalls1
    @MrCalls1 2 місяці тому +106

    1:22 You’re not starting off well. The people of Somalia aren’t split into ethnic groups, they’re split into clans. And this is kind of relevant because Somali is ethnically quite unified and the reason it’s in the state it is, is because it attempted to unify the Somali nation by conquering the edge of Ethiopia. The Important divisions in Somalia are geographic and clan, not ethnic.

    • @rangergxi
      @rangergxi 2 місяці тому +16

      To be fair, have you heard Somalis talk of other clans? They are basically racist against them.

    • @haydencrawford8552
      @haydencrawford8552 2 місяці тому +24

      What is the difference between ethnicity and clan exactly?
      Like, the Balkan slavs are basically all the same people, but they still think of themselves as completely different.

    • @JustAnotherAccount8
      @JustAnotherAccount8 2 місяці тому +13

      @@haydencrawford8552 Not sure if this applies in Africa, but generally the word 'Clan' denotes a closer knit group, often more familial in nature. It's more of a social type of thing, whereas ethnicity share a culture and ancestry, and so it's more of a biological type of thing.
      Then again, clan could mean something completely different to them.

    • @haydencrawford8552
      @haydencrawford8552 2 місяці тому +12

      @JustAnotherAccount8 yeah.... the thing is that once clans become established, they tend to become ethnicities naturally over time.
      Look at India, two people from villages within a day's walk with each other will have completely different languages and beliefs. Not to mention the Caste system that meant that priests weren't even allowed to SEE untouchables, let alone interact with them.

    • @JustAnotherAccount8
      @JustAnotherAccount8 2 місяці тому

      @@haydencrawford8552 True enough, guess they haven't had enough time to form an ethnicity.

  • @ThePanEthiopian
    @ThePanEthiopian 2 місяці тому +26

    I'm pretty sure people of Puntland don't want to leave Somalia

    • @shafsteryellow
      @shafsteryellow 2 місяці тому +22

      They don't. It's just one leader called deni that is just trying to get more concessions

    • @pirate5489
      @pirate5489 2 місяці тому

      One day we will unite God willing they enjoy seeing Muslim divisions.

    • @bonez8246
      @bonez8246 Місяць тому +7

      @@shafsteryellowyou wrong it’s almost 40 years and Mogadishu is still a shit hole 🕳️ no progress full of criminal activity and hunger leaders stealing money and food from the poor Puntland will concentrate on its own no more wasting time. As for Deni he respond for Puntland and we support his decision 100% there will never be 🇸🇴 unity because of Hawye mentality simply.

    • @shafsteryellow
      @shafsteryellow Місяць тому

      @@bonez8246 cunto cun luugo baasto

    • @notyourtypicalfarah7194
      @notyourtypicalfarah7194 Місяць тому

      ​@@bonez8246 Wouldn't puntland fall apart since only Marjarten controls the whole thing? You think Deni won't have problems with other Daroods that live there??

  • @jotarokujo9164
    @jotarokujo9164 2 місяці тому +34

    Somalia is basically a case of a failed unification. Pretty similar to that of Yemen as Yemen's unification in 1990 has also been such a disaster.

    • @shafsteryellow
      @shafsteryellow 2 місяці тому +3

      Nope.

    • @AL-lh2ht
      @AL-lh2ht 2 місяці тому +7

      @@shafsteryellow cope

    • @Wasserfeld.
      @Wasserfeld. Місяць тому +9

      ​@@shafsteryellowwell, it's clearly not working, is it?

    • @shafsteryellow
      @shafsteryellow Місяць тому

      ​@@Wasserfeld. What's not working

  • @davidbowie5023
    @davidbowie5023 2 місяці тому +140

    I think we should remember the same Mogadishu regime was responsible to a genocide back in 1980s against the Isaaq tribe, the tribe that rules Somaliland today. They never forget that tragedy.

    • @skp8748
      @skp8748 2 місяці тому +5

      Cap

    • @shafsteryellow
      @shafsteryellow 2 місяці тому +5

      Not true.

    • @Mrobot90000
      @Mrobot90000 2 місяці тому +10

      If it’s genocide then they shouldn’t claim other Somalis land

    • @davidbowie5023
      @davidbowie5023 2 місяці тому

      @@Mrobot90000 You should watch Hargeisa holocaust and you will understand why they hate Somalia.

    • @davidbowie5023
      @davidbowie5023 2 місяці тому +26

      @@Mrobot90000 They don't. They remembered what your idol Siad Barre did to them. They only want what they have been seeking for.

  • @SadikBoom
    @SadikBoom 2 місяці тому +8

    it brings me to tears seeing my country like this and i cant do anything.

  • @elroymatekwa8702
    @elroymatekwa8702 2 місяці тому +64

    It not correct to speak of somalia as ethnically diverse....98 percent of its inhabitants are ethnic somalis with a few other minorities that do not mumber more thatn 10 in number

    • @sideclipz5053
      @sideclipz5053 2 місяці тому +15

      Exactly I called them out on this too big blunder

    • @fishconnoisseur
      @fishconnoisseur 2 місяці тому +9

      It depends on what you consider an ethnic group. The tribes that they’re referring to consider themselves their own ethnic groups under a larger Somali identity

    • @JaredDudley24
      @JaredDudley24 2 місяці тому +3

      @@fishconnoisseurthey are not tribes they r just clans, a majority of whom fall under broader bigger clans who r in some shape or way related.

    • @momon969
      @momon969 2 місяці тому +4

      @@JaredDudley24 It just goes to show that without any of the 'traditional' reasons to fight, we'll invent new ones. Even if basically everyone has the same ethnicity and religion, we'll find new ways to split ourselves into groups, just to have them fight each other.

    • @nenelelee1667
      @nenelelee1667 2 місяці тому +2

      Nope. Around 85% are ethnic Somalis

  • @proudamerican4613
    @proudamerican4613 Місяць тому

    Thank you for covering this.

  • @jugadug
    @jugadug 2 місяці тому +37

    I don't believe it is entirely accurate to describe it many ethnic groups, as the country is 85-90% ethnic somali, just that they are divided into clans, somaliland is not gonna get independence through the means they have chosen

    • @theancientsancients1769
      @theancientsancients1769 2 місяці тому

      Somalia 🇸🇴 is not splitting up! Somalia is Not a multi ethnic multi multi-religious country like neighbouring countries. They are misleading their audience!

    • @Jack_today
      @Jack_today 2 місяці тому +11

      They have independence. They are independent of the state of Somalia as Somalia has no control over them. It's just not recognised which is different. If someone refuses to look at you it doesn't mean you don't exist

    • @theancientsancients1769
      @theancientsancients1769 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Jack_today Clearly you are not educated! Somalia 🇸🇴 is a Federal country! Federal states have many powers Independent of the federal government. That's whole point of federalism 😂 Biden can't tell California or Texas what to do . The Federal government has powers over certain things like foreign policy strategic assets

    • @Therightoselfdetermination
      @Therightoselfdetermination Місяць тому

      Somaliland was a country before failed state somalia😂

    • @Therightoselfdetermination
      @Therightoselfdetermination Місяць тому

      However they don't represent Somaliland so I guess the joke is on you 😂

  • @nufailanoon
    @nufailanoon Місяць тому +7

    I want the Greater Somalia back. Somaliland back and parts of Djibouti, Ethiopia and Kenya back, is that ever possible 😢😢

    • @hussletv8155
      @hussletv8155 5 днів тому

      never happening

    • @DarthMarr2009
      @DarthMarr2009 5 днів тому

      Bad idea, would lead to catastrophic war and not even all somalis agree so you could say its unethical

    • @riru363
      @riru363 4 дні тому

      Hell nah 😂

  • @rad4924
    @rad4924 2 місяці тому +9

    I've met a lot of people from Puntland in my life.
    Wait, no, I'm getting confused with a similarly named place that begins with a C....

  • @user-zz4xu5wo2c
    @user-zz4xu5wo2c 2 місяці тому +9

    Correction---SSC Khatumo is already established and acknowledged as an interim administration by the Federal Government of Somalia as of October 19, 2023

    • @Ramdelfalcao2024
      @Ramdelfalcao2024 Місяць тому +1

      They need to add AWdhal too then they is no somali land 😂😂

    • @user-zz4xu5wo2c
      @user-zz4xu5wo2c Місяць тому

      @@Ramdelfalcao2024 But unlike Awdal, SSC Khatumo has control of their territory, Somaliland still controls Awdal

    • @Ramdelfalcao2024
      @Ramdelfalcao2024 Місяць тому

      @@user-zz4xu5wo2c I know bro they are out numbered and Hassan sheik he doesn’t want to help them to fight or give them statehood

    • @user-zz4xu5wo2c
      @user-zz4xu5wo2c Місяць тому

      ​@@Ramdelfalcao2024 I agree, president Hassan is a spineless puppet of money incapable of even freeing small Al-Shabab areas, much less dealing with entire regions like Puntland or Somaliland

    • @agentopaque3776
      @agentopaque3776 Місяць тому

      @@Ramdelfalcao2024 Why do you feel the need to speak for my people? why do you compare Awdal to Khatuumo? you dumbasses have been fighting none stop for the past 15 years whilst My people in Awdal have remained not only a part of Somaliland but even Ruled it under Dahir Riyale Kahin?
      We dont want to be part of you nor do we want to be a bullshit FMS is a failed state.

  • @SenorM2867
    @SenorM2867 2 місяці тому +38

    Somalia is like 95% ethnically the same exact thing and Ethiopia and Kenya have a lot of ethnic Somalis as well. Djibouti is also overwhelmingly an ethnically Somali country

    • @daviddestefanis2989
      @daviddestefanis2989 2 місяці тому +14

      Wow. According to one ethnic map, Somalia is the most ethnically homogenous country in Africa. Which begs the question: Why is it the most failed state?

    • @Threezi04
      @Threezi04 2 місяці тому +7

      ​@@daviddestefanis2989 Clan warfare, basically like medieval Ireland.

    • @DescendIntoTheAbsurd
      @DescendIntoTheAbsurd 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes. Ogaden in Ethiopia is ethnically Somali and Djibouti is Somalis sharing with Afars (Who also have a region in Ethiopia and the southern coastal part of Eritrea).

    • @SGN30
      @SGN30 Місяць тому

      Wtf??​@@daviddestefanis2989

    • @pikapi6993
      @pikapi6993 Місяць тому

      @@daviddestefanis2989 Clans and Islam

  • @eldios831
    @eldios831 2 місяці тому +90

    Somalia is a strange country..largely homogenous but can fight each other justine because you come frome a different clan

    • @ldahmy
      @ldahmy 2 місяці тому +18

      It's actually quite common all over. You have China and Japan and also Mongolia before ginkez khan united it and also the Arab world. They all fought because they Com from different clans and tribes.

    • @eldios831
      @eldios831 2 місяці тому +5

      @@ldahmy but you see those countries have seen sense in uniting...Somalia so far doomed

    • @ldahmy
      @ldahmy 2 місяці тому +7

      @@eldios831 so I don't disagree but again these are considered nomadic tribes or cattle herders in nature. And to unite tribes under one banner you usually find one tribe that has an overwhelming power relative to other ones and they simply submit to them. Somalia had no such luck.

    • @eldios831
      @eldios831 2 місяці тому +2

      @@ldahmy I don't dispute that....Somalia has to bite the head on the nail because disagreements and fighting will bring nothing other than stagnation....The leaders need to agree on a constitution that encompasses everyone...Democracy is very expensive and that sacrifice needs to be made

    • @abdirahmanhassan1848
      @abdirahmanhassan1848 2 місяці тому

      @@eldios831 easier said than done

  • @andrewrogers3067
    @andrewrogers3067 2 місяці тому +58

    Ethiopia: Dew it.

    • @ThePanEthiopian
      @ThePanEthiopian 2 місяці тому +10

      Don't put us into this shit

    • @bukhariapdelahi7072
      @bukhariapdelahi7072 2 місяці тому

      they will never get a sea ethopia is failed country

    • @lionman4191
      @lionman4191 2 місяці тому +4

      Aidethiopia have their own civil war going on lol you don’t understand the Horn of Africa politics

    • @Izmoa
      @Izmoa 2 місяці тому +1

      Ethiopia are currently in a civil war committing genocides against themselves.

  • @campfireeverything
    @campfireeverything 2 місяці тому +2

    Cracking jumper 👌
    This madness is well-explained too, thanks!

  • @nathaniel1207
    @nathaniel1207 2 місяці тому +1

    My Genuine first reaction to the title was "it's not already?"

  • @biggie9116
    @biggie9116 2 місяці тому +9

    Tribilism is a biggest curse

    • @muhidinabdulahi3553
      @muhidinabdulahi3553 2 місяці тому +2

      They are one tribe but in different clans

    • @abduking4204
      @abduking4204 Місяць тому +1

      @@muhidinabdulahi3553 no there four clans but all ethically the same

  • @BagelBoy97
    @BagelBoy97 2 місяці тому +11

    Flex tape can’t fix that.

  • @GastyX153
    @GastyX153 Місяць тому

    Good job not putting the sponsorship slap in the middle of the video, I wish everyone would just put it at the end like you did

  • @Whenyouarent
    @Whenyouarent 2 місяці тому +61

    You’re phrasing this as if Somalia was united before this…. It’s basically anarchy

    • @TheHajinator
      @TheHajinator 2 місяці тому +4

      Somalis did choose to merge into one state after independence

    • @magivkmeister6166
      @magivkmeister6166 2 місяці тому +8

      @@TheHajinator For the first time in their history.

    • @JustAnotherAccount8
      @JustAnotherAccount8 2 місяці тому +6

      @@TheHajinator The balkans also decided to merge into one state called yugoslavia... just because they merge, doesn't mean they were united.

    • @questionmaker5666
      @questionmaker5666 2 місяці тому +1

      @@JustAnotherAccount8 Did they choice, or were they forced? Yes, you are right.

    • @AL-lh2ht
      @AL-lh2ht 2 місяці тому +2

      @@JustAnotherAccount8 Nope. They forced to both due to serbia having the only real military and so to not be annexed by the russians.

  • @bikkiikun
    @bikkiikun 2 місяці тому +25

    Somalia was never a united country to begin with. It wasn't even a single colony.
    The example of French Somalia (a.k.a. Djibouti) shows quite clearly, that it works better to be "good neighbours" rather than being forced to live in the same house.

    • @skp8748
      @skp8748 2 місяці тому +4

      Yes it was

    • @wizhargeisa3338
      @wizhargeisa3338 2 місяці тому +3

      That very loughable 😂 learn the history of Somalis better before you speak about it

    • @bikkiikun
      @bikkiikun 2 місяці тому +7

      @@wizhargeisa3338 : Oh Master, please tell me, when was Somalia (as in the internationally recognised borders) ever united??

    • @wizhargeisa3338
      @wizhargeisa3338 2 місяці тому

      @@bikkiikun There is Five parts of Somali territory were the Colony divide it and two Parts of that were liberated in june 1960 and they Formed what the world knows today as Somalia where you get this information like it was never Somalia recognized country make you look very dumb really 😅

    • @skp8748
      @skp8748 2 місяці тому +3

      @@bikkiikun lol superimposing western conditions of what constitute a nation is hilarious. You clearly don't know somali society how it operates, land rights, individual sovereignty or the laws that govern all somalis.
      The entire concept of 'nation states' is less than 150 years old 😂
      Somali contiguous territories, jurisdiction, unified identity and more have existed well before that.
      Somali is a unambiguous ethnicity with somali lands being well established for millenia. There's a reason we don't speak Arabic, Italian or have different ethnic groups unlike all our neighbours

  • @AbshirMohamud-np9zt
    @AbshirMohamud-np9zt Місяць тому +4

    Puntland and Somaliland are two regional governments in Somalia that do not have an agreement and recognition according to international and African Union rules.

    • @menassies3224
      @menassies3224 Місяць тому

      Things will change

    • @ElfinHat96
      @ElfinHat96 Місяць тому +4

      I doubt Somaliland cares what International groups think of them. They shouldn't have been part of Somalia to begin with especially when Somalia's attempt getting rid of Somalilands population in the past.

  • @PShawtx
    @PShawtx 2 місяці тому +2

    Nord works with a company that mines info form the internet which is a conflict of interest for Nord VPN.

  • @muhammadhabibieamiro3639
    @muhammadhabibieamiro3639 2 місяці тому +2

    Now this is interesting

  • @luthandomdadane
    @luthandomdadane 2 місяці тому +8

    This is getting out of hand! Now there are three of them!?

    • @abdulkadirosman2816
      @abdulkadirosman2816 2 місяці тому +5

      Somalia stretches from Spain to Sweden, its a large country and has the right to split into many

    • @luthandomdadane
      @luthandomdadane Місяць тому

      @@abdulkadirosman2816 It was a star wars reference, not a comment on Somalia's ongoing national mitosis

    • @Aafiyaah
      @Aafiyaah Місяць тому

      @@abdulkadirosman2816it does not have to split tho, it brings no good. Don’t let these people that are promoting division outsmart you. They support it cause they know it’s bad and makes them all weak.

  • @Felix0587
    @Felix0587 2 місяці тому +60

    As a flag enthusiast, new banners and colors really stimulate my neurons, so I look forward to the dopamine rush the new countries would give me. Go for it!

    • @DenDave_
      @DenDave_ 2 місяці тому +46

      Bro wants war and discourse just so he can look at a new assembly of colours on a piece of cloth, crazy.

    • @AdDaiAlMusafir
      @AdDaiAlMusafir 2 місяці тому +15

      LoL at least we'll get new countries in Eu4 extended timeline

    • @Felix0587
      @Felix0587 2 місяці тому +7

      @@DenDave_ Lmao, who said anything about war? These countries are already independent, and theres nothing the mayor of Mogadishu can do about it. I support responsible self governance, not the imperial aspirations of one man.

    • @bobbobby3085
      @bobbobby3085 2 місяці тому +3

      @@Felix0587This’ll cause war and suffering it already has what he said pretty much sums of your attitude and the fact you can’t see that you may have made an insensitive comment is concerning why he callous to just look at some flags?
      (Ps their flags are kinda shut anyway so I wouldn’t be celebrating rn)

    • @niggacockball7995
      @niggacockball7995 2 місяці тому

      let me guess you support russia in ukraine too?

  • @nasfrom-da-ldn7362
    @nasfrom-da-ldn7362 Місяць тому +2

    Puntland is not the wealthiest state, but it is one of the more stable states.

  • @justskip4595
    @justskip4595 2 місяці тому +20

    It sounds like Somaliland and Puntland are trying to make a sustainable future for themselves while main government is trying to turn to dictatorship and there's also islamic madness happening too. I don't blame those two for not wanting a part of with those sort of things.

    • @abdirahmanhassan1848
      @abdirahmanhassan1848 2 місяці тому +1

      whats islamic madness

    • @justskip4595
      @justskip4595 2 місяці тому +1

      @@abdirahmanhassan1848 Well, youtube tends to remove comments that mention that sort of activity that was discussed in this video briefly. The not so good neighbor behavior. There was recently some of it manifesting in Russia too that was rather big news.
      Oh how I do hate the language restrictions that americans specially are so keen on.

    • @Ilawaalo.
      @Ilawaalo. Місяць тому +2

      I'm from there Puntland. Absolutely I'm with dude!

    • @bugazi3037
      @bugazi3037 Місяць тому

      @@abdirahmanhassan1848 infidel always blame Islam

    • @bigwaahuu8848
      @bigwaahuu8848 Місяць тому

      What is call puntland it not same issue on somaliland is't it is region inclusive somali italian atonomy.

  • @ricardo.acdhnd
    @ricardo.acdhnd 2 місяці тому +6

    You should make a video on the Mexico - Ecuador situation. (Ecuador entered, raided and arrested a man taking political asylum inside the Mexican embassy; followed by Mexico the severing the diplomatic relations with Ecuador)

    • @samuela-aegisdottir
      @samuela-aegisdottir 14 днів тому

      You can propose new topics for videos directly to them by a form they have, the link is in the description.

  • @JaredDudley24
    @JaredDudley24 2 місяці тому +30

    Here to fact check this video as a Somali from Puntland, first there is only one main ethnic group in Somalia- Somalis! Minority ethnic groups exist in coastal areas but make up a negligible amount and have been incorporated into the main somali ethnic group. Second, somaliland and puntland’s issue stem from the disputed region being inhabited by clans related to and part of the broader clans on Puntland. The constitutional amendments were illegal and while there was a suspension of relations the residents of puntland remain steadfast and apart of unionist somalia. Third Puntland while being an autonomous state in Somalia it like all the other Federal Member States and like the other 5 FMS it enjoys its own seperated but integrated autonomy like different states in Somalia. Somaliland itself suffers from different unionist strong holds in its controlled and claimed regions.

    • @skp8748
      @skp8748 2 місяці тому +5

      Exactly lool and Deni doesn't even have full MJ support let alone the people Puntland 😂
      Just like Bihi thinking he can claim British borders and can subjugate the Gadabuursi, dhulbante and habr jeclo to habr awal rule 😂
      It's just like HSM thinking he can dictate to Raxaweyn and Sheekhal when he's scared of Habr Gidr
      These guys are ALL self interested clowns whose PRIMARY victims and opponents are other subclans from their own clan but they try to use fear/oppression of other clans as an excuse to rule their own.

    • @agentopaque3776
      @agentopaque3776 Місяць тому +4

      @@skp8748 I am Gadabuursi, kindly stop using my people to prove your bullshit points. My people right now are majority pro-Somaliland just cause we're against a port deal doesnt mean we want to rejoin a wartorn shithole occupied by foreign AU forces. Focus on your own people instead of always mentioning mine.

    • @user-fr3kw2rf3z
      @user-fr3kw2rf3z Місяць тому

      1:02

    • @Rofflestomper
      @Rofflestomper Місяць тому

      This reeks of misinformation lmao.

  • @itsallogre6411
    @itsallogre6411 2 місяці тому +2

    Loved the video as always but please give Chris-Chan there shirt back

  • @Thiago_TT_MIA
    @Thiago_TT_MIA 2 місяці тому

    hmmmmm wont go over too well. Get ready to rumble

  • @sagittariusa7662
    @sagittariusa7662 2 місяці тому +33

    To be fair Somali people have never had a territory as big as Somalia before in their history and their culture doesn't support large territorial administrations. Most reasonable would be to be a bunch of Cantons, but this doesn't work well in Somalia's effort to be like their neighbors and try to become more relevant. So I suggest maybe becoming three separate countries is the best step forward.

    • @sideclipz5053
      @sideclipz5053 2 місяці тому +12

      You dont know history then, The region once controlled and native to Somalis is much much larger then this, And Somalis have enjoyed stability but havent for a while now

    • @Aural1
      @Aural1 2 місяці тому +13

      Yes we did buddy search up ajuuran had colonies in Mozambique And Madagascar Even Adal empire stretched majority of the horn you clearly don’t know Somali history 🤦‍♂️

    • @user-fn5el2pp9x
      @user-fn5el2pp9x 2 місяці тому +1

      Only good for their local development. To stay together will make Somalia great Nation.

    • @KURENANI
      @KURENANI 2 місяці тому

      Read a history book

    • @abdirahimismail1687
      @abdirahimismail1687 2 місяці тому +1

      @@user-fn5el2pp9x that was the aim in 1960s but look what it got us. we need stability in somali people it dont matter if its in 1,2,3,10 countries anymore.

  • @BarkhadSamane
    @BarkhadSamane 2 місяці тому +7

    First of all, I salute you.
    Secondly I'm from Republic of Somaliland, you've done a great job posting this video with information,
    and I'm delighted with your fairly and balanced information. thank you once again.

    • @Aafiyaah
      @Aafiyaah Місяць тому

      As an isaaq I’m telling you to wake up. This division thing does not bring us any good and never will and never has. Playing the victim role will never make you succeed in life. Without peace none of these regions will ever progress. Don’t let these cadaan people that are promoting division outsmart us. They support it cause they know it’s bad and keeps us all weak. Which is their goal. WAKE UP!

  • @MohamedAli-rd7rn
    @MohamedAli-rd7rn Місяць тому

    Thanks a million for sharing this amazing information about Somalia 🇸🇴
    I have a question based on your research
    Compare Somaliland and puntland.
    Which one is more powerful, richer ?and more populous?
    Looking forward to hearing from you insha Allah

  • @faarjano2430
    @faarjano2430 2 місяці тому +1

    Iam Somalia I didn't know much about Somalia u made easy to understand well done 🎉

    • @ahmedsahal6588
      @ahmedsahal6588 Місяць тому +4

      incorrect video. because somalis are one ethnic.

  • @zakriyeabdiabdi6170
    @zakriyeabdiabdi6170 2 місяці тому +22

    as puntlander we never gonna split

    • @et_matrix
      @et_matrix 2 місяці тому

      Puntland people don't like the federal gov't.

    • @abdaleali609
      @abdaleali609 2 місяці тому +7

      ​@@et_matrixIf we didn't like doesn't mean we will split from somlia.

    • @ogolow570
      @ogolow570 Місяць тому

      Delusional people keeping yourself attached to this destroyed country

    • @Puntland1
      @Puntland1 Місяць тому

      Caqli badan malihid SOMALIA 🇸🇴 was state founded by ITALIAN COLONISTS Puntland was annexed by Italy to incorporate us into it's southern territories we have nothing do with South or north we used to be our own state who traded with china india Yemen oman and Zanzibar (during said baraqash rule)

    • @granted3203
      @granted3203 Місяць тому

      Putlander? Just say you are Somali from puntland

  • @asepheleleshabalala1352
    @asepheleleshabalala1352 2 місяці тому +15

    "Cue Suzerain Crisis theme"

    • @seankellygaller6902
      @seankellygaller6902 2 місяці тому

      What's Suzerain?

    • @Pilchowski01
      @Pilchowski01 2 місяці тому +2

      ​​@seankellygaller6902 Game where you play the President of an unstable fictional country caught in the middle of Superpower Cold War politicking

    • @seankellygaller6902
      @seankellygaller6902 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Pilchowski01 sounds dope is it like irl nation thing?

    • @maheedeeman354
      @maheedeeman354 2 місяці тому +4

      such a niche comment but happy to see it here

    • @Pilchowski01
      @Pilchowski01 2 місяці тому +1

      @@seankellygaller6902 No, fictional universe, but with very clear real world parallels (the main campaign nation is heavily inspired by post-Kemal Turkey)

  • @tpasi2020UG
    @tpasi2020UG 2 місяці тому +3

    I have a headache.

  • @erdnasiul87
    @erdnasiul87 2 місяці тому +4

    To quote Fantano:
    THAT'S ENOUGH SLICES!!!

  • @JohnYucesoy
    @JohnYucesoy 2 місяці тому +4

    We didn't get a definitive answer, clickbait title and thumbnail

    • @skp8748
      @skp8748 2 місяці тому +1

      Because its nonsense. Deni doesn't even have enough power in puntland to make that decision.
      And in somaliland 2/5ths of it have rejected independence and want to be federal states of Somalia.
      This video is complete lunacy.
      Somalia is one of the most ethnically homogeneous countries in the world

  • @iNTERS22
    @iNTERS22 2 місяці тому +11

    Been "splitting" for 50 bloody years

  • @HameSe
    @HameSe 2 місяці тому

    This would be nice

  • @karimabidi8312
    @karimabidi8312 2 місяці тому +2

    Politicians be like: working together is nice.... Normally. But we aren't exactly the same person so let's split

  • @RealLooktea
    @RealLooktea 2 місяці тому +7

    Tbh being president of Somalia sounds like the worst job in the world

    • @Bavariandude123
      @Bavariandude123 2 місяці тому +3

      Haiti is better?

    • @agentopaque3776
      @agentopaque3776 Місяць тому

      There really isnt a President of Somalia since the last dictator Siad Barre died. Most Somalis call the current "President" the Mayor of Mogadishu because that is literally all he controls lol
      and to maintain control of that city he still needs 20k AU forces 🤣

    • @braineater6058
      @braineater6058 Місяць тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Clank12
      @Clank12 Місяць тому +1

      Imagine having to deal with internal state conflicts and politics, enemy neighbor interferences, extremists terrorists, Western (US/UK) and Arab (UAE) sabotage, all at the same time. Such a tough job, I feel sorry for him.

  • @arnoldmbuthia2687
    @arnoldmbuthia2687 2 місяці тому +5

    Somalia is essentially the only country in Africa that is a nation-state.

  • @user-le3ki9dp5f
    @user-le3ki9dp5f Місяць тому +1

    Asc - khatumo is regional government and it's part of the federal government .

  • @vibhav_m
    @vibhav_m 2 місяці тому +1

    9:13 I don't think this was hosted by Zac lol

  • @Aural1
    @Aural1 2 місяці тому +8

    Somalia doesn’t have “multiple ethnic groups” it’s quite literally one of the most homogeneous countries which the Somali ethnic group makes up 98% of the population the other 2 percent are Somali Bantu and Somali Barawani(Non native) the strange thing is the Somali people although united by ethnicity,religion,culture,language etc still fight each other because of tribalism this is cave man mentality we need to change as Somali people think of the Germanic people before they were united they lost to the Roman’s after major unity the Germanics finally overthrew the Roman’s

    • @skp8748
      @skp8748 2 місяці тому

      😂 these people are lunatics

    • @agentopaque3776
      @agentopaque3776 2 місяці тому +2

      The problem is that those tribes might aswell be ethnic groups because they despise each other. Somaliland is mainly inhabited by 2 tribes Gadabuursi and Isaac, they both get along and the result is a stable and peacefull region that has had multiple free elections. Puntland is similar, all tribes there get along and function on a "everybody eats" model. The south is another story, might aswell be mad max.

    • @abdirahmanhassan1848
      @abdirahmanhassan1848 2 місяці тому

      @@agentopaque3776 puntland recently had skirmishes due to clan warfare and somaliland had a civil war that ended in somaliland retreating just last year somalia is a very confusing place nothing is as it seems

    • @agentopaque3776
      @agentopaque3776 2 місяці тому +2

      @@abdirahmanhassan1848 Somaliland's so called "civil war", as many from Somalia are calling it, is already over. The region that Somaliland supposedly lost has always been disputed and riddled with violence. Somaliland heartland is absolutly peaceful. Its funny watching you try to compare Somaliland to the clusterfuck that is South Somalia. Your civil war is hands down the worst and has been raging for the last 15 years.
      Both Somaliland and Puntland are leagues more stable than the central government that barely excercises control outside of the capitol and has many foreign troops within its lands.

    • @Aural1
      @Aural1 2 місяці тому

      @@agentopaque3776 Somaliland actually has 3 Isaaq,Harti,Gadabursi

  • @kingszeno
    @kingszeno 2 місяці тому +4

    I guess you could say soma lil land left.
    I'll see myself out.

  • @GeediGeediMuse
    @GeediGeediMuse Місяць тому +2

    Somalia is not splitting up into 3. But uniting and greatersomalia is coming

  • @CptMark
    @CptMark Місяць тому

    @1:18: yeah for a guy in Croatian jersey. stay safe, man!

  • @FelixGordon23
    @FelixGordon23 2 місяці тому +4

    In what has been a tumultuous post-colonial landscape, the region the finds itself in what is really a geopolitical battleground between Arab states. The UAE has wielded a lot of sway in the Horn of Africa for a long time using its vast oil money to garner political influence and assert control over any wealth the country does have. Consequently rival states such as Iran and Qatar are overwhelming responsible for Al-Shabab driving the country into ever further turmoil. Any progress that Somalia made fiscally and diplomatically over the past decade have been decimated by this. As well intensifying the challenges it does have, the region is particularly vulnerable to climate change and the relentless exploitation the country very productive fisheries, further crippling its economy. It does very much present an incredibly unfortunate situation for the countries 20 million people.

  • @innerlight7018
    @innerlight7018 2 місяці тому +5

    Now, imagine, that the african population will double until 2050. 😖

    • @skp8748
      @skp8748 2 місяці тому +3

      What's that got to do with anything

  • @sriharshacv7760
    @sriharshacv7760 2 місяці тому +2

    It is not about Somaliland not being independent. It is about the rest of the world not establishing diplomatic relations with them. It is a shame on all of our governments.

  • @bradbrad9561
    @bradbrad9561 2 місяці тому

    My favorite youtube news channel. Anyways...

  • @merlinbreaud7379
    @merlinbreaud7379 2 місяці тому +4

    What is the position of Turkey on all of this ? They're the big guys in Mogadiscio, so having their nascent satellite state splitting this way isn't neutral at all for them. Is Puntland supported by other powers, for instance ?

    • @Valaame
      @Valaame 2 місяці тому +1

      Responding to this comment to boost it, does anyone know anything about this?

    • @ucey-mi2wr
      @ucey-mi2wr Місяць тому

      @@user-zz4xu5wo2c ur forgetting the usa was funding the icu's adverseries due to washington's fears a hardline islamist somalia could harbour taliban members

    • @shafsteryellow
      @shafsteryellow Місяць тому

      Puntland is somalia lmao... its one Governor that is upset that the elected ministers from his state didn't obstruct the federal govt and gain more concessions

    • @shafsteryellow
      @shafsteryellow Місяць тому

      ​@@Valaamethat would be illegal and violation of Somali sovereignty

    • @XayaatAbdi324
      @XayaatAbdi324 12 днів тому

      ​@@shafsteryellow hawiye futo madoobe

  • @mohamedabdukadir3271
    @mohamedabdukadir3271 2 місяці тому +6

    No somalia will not spilt and puntland can't dare to declare secession from Somalia, it is just political manoeuvre by puntland leader to stop the constitutional change which honestly is illegal, when the election time comes near puntland will change its position

    • @XayaatAbdi324
      @XayaatAbdi324 2 місяці тому +3

      Can't dare? Who will stop them? They already have seceded temporarily until who knows when so why nobody stopped them?

    • @mohamedabdukadir3271
      @mohamedabdukadir3271 2 місяці тому

      @@XayaatAbdi324 no, puntland did not seceded but withdrew recognition from the federal govt which are two different things, Puntland leader can't dare to declare secession because the people in the region don't accept secession

    • @XayaatAbdi324
      @XayaatAbdi324 2 місяці тому +1

      @@mohamedabdukadir3271 The formal secession has to come with a vote from the people of Puntland then with that referendum Puntland government can declare independence. As for the people of Puntland they're tired from the drama and the instability in the south and I wouldn't be surprised if the people of Puntland vote for secession.

    • @shafsteryellow
      @shafsteryellow Місяць тому

      ​@@XayaatAbdi324 beenta

    • @XayaatAbdi324
      @XayaatAbdi324 Місяць тому

      @@shafsteryellow runta miyeey ka xanaajisay warya?

  • @majid7925
    @majid7925 2 місяці тому

    It seems that state building needs purpose and legimitacy and seeing the fractured and lack of historic foundation that is credible... breaking Somalia into smaller groups could allow for future unification or integration in some form such as trade deals and cooperation rather than going for the federal route that only brings mistrust and lack of purpose.

  • @ladanesalwe8245
    @ladanesalwe8245 Місяць тому

    Thanks 🙏 you are very well updated and fare and free of course je side 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 thanks Iam from puntland State of Somali 🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @mohamuddahir5772
    @mohamuddahir5772 Місяць тому +3

    Somalia is one Country ✅

    • @Remake5182
      @Remake5182 Місяць тому

      Somalia is one Country, with a lot of issues.

  • @soundscape26
    @soundscape26 2 місяці тому +9

    TLDR is definitely good at splitting countries.

  • @AjaySivaram-by8vl
    @AjaySivaram-by8vl Місяць тому

    = 12 years old and new conversation

  • @ImHim200
    @ImHim200 Місяць тому +2

    They just found out Somalia isn’t begging them to stay😂😂😂 they’re confused now. They wanted the Somaliland treatment😂

  • @sporttv24timmar
    @sporttv24timmar 2 місяці тому +3

    Ssc Katumo is a force to be reckoned, no matter how you slice it.

  • @n7cb3e597
    @n7cb3e597 2 місяці тому +23

    I wish you would stop making video's about Somalia because almost every video you make on somalia is poorly researched and terribly framed. Firstly, Somali states are not split on ethnic lines. Somalis are one ethnic groups they have different clans/sub clans not ethnic groups because they share one common language, culture and heritage; the states are split up on tribal linages. The Somali states of Somaliland is predominately Isaaq and Puntland is predominantly Darood in Clan identity (qabeel). The reason why SSC Khatuumo want to create another tribal state in the region is because they're another minority tribe in the region called the Dhulbahante which are a sub-tribe of the Darood and have historically faced persecution and repression from the majority Isaaq tribe in the region. The Somalia Federal government recognised their state which lead to the Ethiopia port deal by the Isaaq state of Somaliland to spite the Federal government. The reason why this is significant is because on an ethnic basis (Somalis as a whole) have had a turbulent relationship with Ethiopia, from the ongoing genocide and ethnic displacement of Somalis in the Oagden region by Oromo militia, the Ogaden war and the Ethiopian invasion of Somalia in 2006. So no it's not a matter of "one state just made an economic deal with another state" it has a far more bloody ethnic history.
    Now onto the Puntland issue. The reason for the constitution amendments and the centralisation of the Somali system is precisely to move on from clan rule. The Somali 4.5 system essentially makes it so the 4 main clans get equal representation but the minority essentially get 0.5, I don't think I need to spell it out to you what happens in an region where inter-clan tension is the norm but if you want to read more about it: www.refworld.org/reference/countryrep/ukho/2017/en/117027
    The reform was unanimously voted in by the Somali parliament with no abstentions or rejections for this particular reason because almost all non-self interested somali political actors realise the only way forward is the abolition of the Clan system. As you can imagine Clan ran states are not particularly a fan of such reforms and losing their monopoly on power. The issue of the president appointing the prime minister again is not something that anyone whose familiar with Somali politics would be against. Historically the two positions have never worked with one another unanimously and has always created political conflict and in the case of the last presidency of Farmaajo and his prime minister Rooble almost lead to the democratic system of Somalia collapsing and the country falling into armed conflict over election delays.
    My personal opinion and the opinion of most Somalis is of universal suffrage which has been promised and failed to be delivered until now. The country will ultimately balkanise into poorer and violent Clannist states is it does not centralise and uphold certain standards guarantee basic humanitarian rights for minorities. The Federal governments war against insurgents in the South of Somalia is going well but if Somalia balkanises, it will be replaced by the Al-Shabaab which has a functioning psuedo-state in the the south and expansionist, pan-somali aims which is still an incredibly popular sentiment with native Somalis. This spat is not a case of the country splitting into 3 states democratic stable states but it will be a case of 3 isolated states facing 3 disprate insurgencies (SSC Khatuumo clan militias, ISIS in puntland and Al Shabab).

    • @m.s.e.4192
      @m.s.e.4192 2 місяці тому +7

      I disagree with you how you say TLDR should stop making Somali videos. I got to read a quite interesting analysis of a situation from you thanks to them making a video about it. It wouldn't have happened otherwise.

    • @tanoiason
      @tanoiason 2 місяці тому +2

      Good read this post, thanks for sharing

    • @cushitic173
      @cushitic173 Місяць тому

      somalia is ethnically diverse theres many different tribes and 13 different languages

    • @ahmedsheikh9356
      @ahmedsheikh9356 Місяць тому

      What a poorly written twisted comment, you forgot to mention that Somalia government is a shit hole and brought shame to all Somalis for the last 35 years and now we are called terrorists, pirates, hungry people all because of the federal government while Somaliland and Puntland are a true success stories and they brought peace, development and prosperity to their regions. Somalia government should take advice from those states on how to rule but in the contrary they leave them out. Also the MPs sitting in Mogadishu that cant even go to the places they “represent” cant take a fake vote while being bribed and act like they represent anybody. For example Puntland citizens and their government disagrees with the amendments yet their suppose MPs voted in favor of it so who the hell are they representing 😂 Also Somaliland MPs cant go to Somaliland which have no idea what amendments was going on in the first place. Bottom line Somalia government should respect and take advice from Puntland and Somaliland success story and listen to them instead of side lining them

    • @bugazi3037
      @bugazi3037 18 днів тому

      @@cushitic173micro Somali or accent isn’t language

  • @Rushrush13
    @Rushrush13 Місяць тому +1

    Title is misleading. Puntland is upset but they are not leaving Somalia. It would be foolish of them to go that far.

    • @Remake5182
      @Remake5182 Місяць тому

      Temporarily leaving Somalia.

  • @FeysalCajin
    @FeysalCajin 6 днів тому

    As somali citizen we had never been splitted and we will never ever be splitting we are one nation one people and one country. So proud to be a 🇸🇴💪

  • @gr8life12
    @gr8life12 2 місяці тому +10

    Somalia, the place that you can surely bet money will never get a break, only constant and never ending anarchy and strife.

    • @agentopaque3776
      @agentopaque3776 Місяць тому

      The region that wants to break away, Somaliland, has maintained peace and stability for over 30 years yet the international community insists to "talks" with Somalia smh

    • @shafsteryellow
      @shafsteryellow Місяць тому

      ​@@agentopaque3776 peace yet had a civil war and has entire regions saying they want to be their own federal state

  • @abby-a
    @abby-a 2 місяці тому +3

    I wonder if this is going to happen. Because I remember hearing ppl talking about this years ago but nothing ever happened

    • @ucey-mi2wr
      @ucey-mi2wr Місяць тому

      most ppl from puntland dont support unification. its just political bait

  • @hikodzu
    @hikodzu 2 місяці тому +2

    Somalia in a not splitting apart challenge be like

  • @00alexander1415
    @00alexander1415 Місяць тому +1

    Do they have Nukes? No? let them figure it out themselves.

  • @navinbhatia9936
    @navinbhatia9936 2 місяці тому +26

    Briliant topic & analysis.
    Next time we have to ask Indian Navy which Somali pirates have they arrestted- Somaliland or Puntland or Southern Somalia ?

    • @user-cv6gs1fg9i
      @user-cv6gs1fg9i 2 місяці тому +18

      Most of the Somali pirates are from puntland and somalia
      Somaliland is more stable and has their own navy that prevents pirates and illegal things

    • @siciidxuseen1984
      @siciidxuseen1984 2 місяці тому

      It's well known all pirates are From puntland while all terrorists are from Somalia

    • @ssnaut1871
      @ssnaut1871 2 місяці тому +8

      ​@@user-cv6gs1fg9ieven more reason to recognise Somaliland

    • @bukhariapdelahi7072
      @bukhariapdelahi7072 2 місяці тому

      @@user-cv6gs1fg9i yeah that is Bs somaliland is not stable cry harder

    • @KURENANI
      @KURENANI 2 місяці тому

      Ask yourself this why are there even pirates in the first place,the easy answer to this is that other countries illegaly take fish from the sea and dump toxic waste killing the local markets and forcing the fish men to take drastic measurements to survive.

  • @hatrez3679
    @hatrez3679 2 місяці тому +18

    What’s about the Turkish Army that has been deployed in Somalia? They train their army, giving them weapons, drones, etc. and build a navy for them.

    • @ProudTurkroach
      @ProudTurkroach 2 місяці тому

      They are as useless as Turkish army

    • @ektekp
      @ektekp 2 місяці тому +9

      As if it will change anything lol

    • @crocodileguy4319
      @crocodileguy4319 2 місяці тому +9

      Such a waste

    • @DADAahmed-iz4xw
      @DADAahmed-iz4xw Місяць тому

      that is true, this thing is smll thing inside situation but, media can't make big problem

    • @bugazi3037
      @bugazi3037 Місяць тому

      @@crocodileguy4319infidels opinion don’t matter to us

  • @awetd.batista2315
    @awetd.batista2315 Місяць тому +2

    No different ethnic groups in Somalia. Rather Somalia 🇸🇴 has one ethnic one religion.

  • @RedVandal626
    @RedVandal626 2 місяці тому +1

    what a mess omg

    • @skp8748
      @skp8748 2 місяці тому +5

      No where near ethiopias 5 way civil war killing millions

    • @datniggaeazye.5968
      @datniggaeazye.5968 2 місяці тому

      @@skp8748 what does that have to do with anything

  • @verygoodboy5724
    @verygoodboy5724 2 місяці тому +3

    As a Somali there is no place in Somalia that's peaceful whether it's the Somaliland state where out of the 3 clans that inhabit that region 2 of them want the union therefore waging war at the Somaliland administration Puntland also has some insurgent groups and the south has fallen so it would be inaccurate to say that Some regions are peaceful or better than the other it's so unfortunate that All the leaders in all the states of Somalia are foreign agents and puppets and will always be conflict of interests so don't fall for propaganda i pray for peace and good leadership in that country

    • @pirate5489
      @pirate5489 2 місяці тому

      Exactly brother only Sharia can bring stability to our country not the corrupt constitution impose on us by Pagon Europeans and their agents. This Chanel is funded by the British government just like the BBC to spread propaganda and hatred. Book of Allah is the only solution to our problem.

  • @dahabilyrics
    @dahabilyrics 2 місяці тому +32

    REPUBLIC OF PUNTLAND🇸🇱🔥💪🏽👏🏽MY COUNTY❤🇸🇱❤

  • @GaariAli
    @GaariAli Місяць тому +2

    Allow inaga qabo cadawgaan inakalaqaybinaayo 😢😭😭😭
    We are one 1⃣
    We are somali 🇸🇴🫡😭

  • @maha9890
    @maha9890 Місяць тому +2

    Tdlr, Somalia only has *one* ethnic group. Not even two or more, but ONE. This is a very basic factor which you missed. Somalia like many other African countries is made up of different clans.
    Somaliland will be an interesting case study in the coming years as it will surely break from within and ultimately rejoin Somalia as it is the path it is on now. A significant portion of Somaliland (SSC Khatumo) has broken away from Somaliland and only pledges its allegiance to Somalia after fighter a year long military battle with Somaliland to break away from it who were holding them forcefully. Other clans residing in Awdal region which have been marginalised in Somaliland since its inception have also been making strong political moves to join Somalia (much to the dismay and anger of Somalilands leader). Publicly and privately Somaliland deals very different with Somalia. Publicly they speak as though they have broken away from Somalia completely and have no ties, however privately they work hand in hand with the FG. Discussing and receiving development projects, working hand in hand in all capacities which is their entitlement as a region that is legally still part of Somalia. None of this has changed even after Somaliland’s defunct port deal with Ethiopa.
    PL has threatened to break away from the Federal government for as long as PL has existed any time that PL did not get its way with the FG. unfortunately PL does not believe in political negotiations, only demands. It had begun this again recently when the PS appointed a prime minister from a tribe that has never held a major position in the FG, whereas the leader of PL wanted the position for himself first or second someone from his clan. He ceased working with the FG pretty much since then.
    Somalia has made much progress with the new government in fighting terrorism, increasing security, working on completing the new constitution which are all of the things the PL leader has boycotted. The PL leader is the only one who has campaigned incessantly to stop these progresses whereas others have given great support and effort in to it.
    No one in Somalia is surprised by PL’s announcement. Besides the PL leader, the people of PL see themselves as an integral part of Somalia and will not let petty political demands make them break away from their own country.

  • @sal-the-man
    @sal-the-man 2 місяці тому +3

    Somalia is like the Balkans of Africa.

  • @colincuratolo1645
    @colincuratolo1645 2 місяці тому +11

    Somaliland Deserves Recognition!!!

    • @003mohamud
      @003mohamud 2 місяці тому +4

      why? 2/3 of it's territory is against secession, with 1/3 having already left. Eventually there'd just be 3 cities.

    • @shafsteryellow
      @shafsteryellow 2 місяці тому +3

      Gtfoh recognise north cyprus

    • @ayaanyusuf5065
      @ayaanyusuf5065 Місяць тому +2

      That's on its way Insha Allah ❤🤍💚💯❤

    • @fmjjjjn7510
      @fmjjjjn7510 16 днів тому

      You’re literally asking for us to be killed

  • @bakerkawesa
    @bakerkawesa 2 місяці тому

    That might actually fix their problems.

  • @maxmudxareed1345
    @maxmudxareed1345 Місяць тому +1

    Corrections
    1. There is no different ethnic groups in somalia
    2. Soomaliland doesn't control the disputed area.

  • @qaranyuusufcaliburmad8696
    @qaranyuusufcaliburmad8696 Місяць тому +7

    You don’t mislead the people!
    Somalia is a federal, right, Somalis are one ethnicity, but we have different clans!
    #SSC-Khatumo is now under the federal government, it's one of the federal member states.
    No disputed area in Somalia 🇸🇴

    • @dilara-jj5yj
      @dilara-jj5yj Місяць тому

      Qandhiciley iga dheh majeerteen waaa diffrent ethic gaaladuna waa ogyihiin😂

  • @nachoolo
    @nachoolo 2 місяці тому +3

    The obsession of some African countries with forming centralized states is absurd. It only brings conflict.
    The Ethiopian president is doing the same and that's what let to the Tigray War and the current ethnic conflict.

    • @Ilawaalo.
      @Ilawaalo. Місяць тому

      That's true. Example I'm from Puntland and we hate Big Government like One Central Government!!

    • @annaannna6402
      @annaannna6402 Місяць тому +1

      That not true. TDLF goverment action was the reason.

    • @shafsteryellow
      @shafsteryellow Місяць тому

      ​@@Ilawaalo. It's one federal govt with states

  • @IbrahimAli-co9gk
    @IbrahimAli-co9gk Місяць тому

    🚨Correction (SSC Khatumo - state of somalia is federal state member and it’s located between Somalialand and Puntland)

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 2 місяці тому

    taking a punt I see