Natural linseed oil for unstabilised wooden scales. Please read description box
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Sometimes I prefer to use natural Boiled linseed oil for certain woods. Some woods will not stabilise well either because they are very dense like Desert Iron wood and other hard exotic woods but others like Oak will stabilise and take resin well but it makes them look unsightly when you sand the wood. Sometimes you can see the resin in the grain which I do not like.
An overnight soak in linseed oil will normally suffice. I do not like to use linseed oil in my vacuum chamber for fear of contaminating the chamber and it simply is not necessary.
Well using Boiled Linseed Oil on my handles have kept them like new and that's years now. Thanks for sharing.
Those oak scales look great on that knife. I'm sure you know that Boiled linseed oil has metallic driers that are toxic and that the oil isn't boiled.Yes, boiled linseed oil takes a few days dry, even when you let the handle soak in thinned oil. I have come to prefer just using several thin coats of oil rather then thining the oil.The oil doesn't really absorb very far into the wood and if it does "watersoak" the wood the oil doesn't have access to the oxygen necessary for poymerization. Oak is definitely problematic because if the open grain (vessels) that fill with oil. I've seen open grain wood bleed for a very long time. BTW Varnish is often thinned for the first coat and that works great. I've been using Tried & True "Danish Oil Finish" i's pure prepolymerized linseed oil with no additives.I've also used pure tung oil. One great all weather and rough use finish is Birchwood-Caset "True-oil." Have you seen the files in the Spoon Carving Green Woodworking and Sloyd FB group on drying oils?
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Thanks for the info Lewis, Yes I did read something a while back on a spoon carving website. Also have used Birchwood Casey tru oil in the past too. I believe there are different kinds of Linseed oil, some have the chemicals in and others are true boiled linseed without the additives. The learning curve continues.
Sandy
I know of a jacklore classic with oak scales and linseed finish in need of a spring clean up 😊 It has had a very well used existence since landing in Windham. It has been all thru the Maine wilderness, New Hampshire, Vermont, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas and New Brunswick Canada. Never far from my side and always dependable. My favorite piece of kit, and that is saying something 😁 I am a gear horder! haha
Thanks for the video Sandy. I hope you and the family are well and enjoying the spring weather!
take care -Chris
Great video Sandy.
I think I prefer the natural finish of linseed oil anyway, but that's probably because I'm that old fashioned guy you were talking about in the video!
Noel
Very nice finish Sandy. I've used a few finishes as well as stabilizing but the 50/50 you mentioned I have not tried.
Thanks brother great video please make more videos.
Another awesome knife. Thanks for the video. I have recently treated all my hatchet and axe handles with boiled linseed oil.
Thanks Sandy.Much appreciated.
ATB.....Kim.
Hey man do you think another thinner would work or does it have to be white spirit?
Excellent video Sandy.
R.
Thanks Rob:)
Thanks for the video that was most helpful.
Thankyou very much sandy.
Question: can you do a video on the knife you use and why you chose that knife. If it’s one of yours also why you chose the materials, that particular model, design etc.
Sandy, great video again. Asking your opinion. You said that treatment can be done whenever knife looks 'tired'. Would you recommend fine sanding like giving 600 or 800 grit before re-oiling the handle? I would. Osmo
Hello from Sydney, Australia.. Jack, loving your videos and I am currently working my way through them. My question is regarding your reference to using a 50/50 mix of boiled linseed with white spirit for the initial application. I think you are referring to what, in the UK you call White Spirit, but here In Australia (and new Zealand ) we call Mineral Turpentine. Here Downunder, White Spirt is a more volatile solvent. Mineral Turpentine is what we would use for thinning oil-based paint, cleaning brushes etc. So is it Mineral Turpentine you are using?
Remember to submerge any cloth or rag in water after linseed contact. Can combust on it's on accord. Another great video full of knowledge
Years ago I used BLO for rifle stocks, I never knew this and luckily none of them combusted!!, I used to put the cloths in a jar and found some years later in the garage rock hard!!, I filled the jars with water and stuck them in the bin!! 👍😳
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My knife has non stainless steel along the handle. Is is safe to submurge the knife in the oil or will it rust?
A combination of Beeswax and mineral oil works well and is completely safe to use.
Sandy any idea when another knife is available for sale.?
What grit of sandpaper do you finish your handles to before using the boiled linseed oil / spirits finish?
Can walnut be applied in same way?
Hi again sandy
I think it was cactus juice but not totally sure but it bleeds through white when sanded,if thats any help.thankyou
The only way around it is to use a special dye in the cactus juice during t5he stabilizing process. Once it's cured you shouldn't be able to see it then. I prefer just to use Linseed for Oak handles now. I don't know of any way to fix it once the handle has been stabilised I'm afraid.
What is white spirit?
When you say White spirit do you mean mineral spirits.
what scopes on the T3 Sandy
Steiner ranger 4-12 x 56 with a nice fine illuminated red dot in the centre.
Another great video by the professor. Thank you for this very informative and important lesson. That part of the shop was looking tidy. Good job. Boiled, boiled, boiled.
Hello from Toronto, Canada. I bought a new knife with a full tang and wooden handle . Question? Is there a way to make the handle less slippery when it gets wet? Maybe I could use a leather wrap? Thanks
Sandy is Flaxseed oil the same thing ?? Ive used Danish Tounge oil in the past, but just trying Food Grade Flaxseed oil, Ive been told its the same as Linseed oil but just not sure !!
Hi! how about Honduran Rosewood Burl blanks - will this require stabilization or just linseed oil seasoning is enough?
Have a knife with olive handle and do not want to loose the grain......will this method also work......olive is quite dense.....
Great vid as always sandy! I thought I read somewhere that raw linseed oil is still a drying oil, but it doesn't have the heavy metals to speed up the drying. Raw linseed oil just takes months to dry rather than hours/days for the BLO.
I found this out when looking into how to treat spoons I've carved.
I'm happy to be corrected though if I am wrong :)
From what I have read the part about raw linseed oil drying is true, it is capable of drying given enough time.
Good advice, Sandy, as always. My favourite finishes are boiled linseed oil and Tung oil. :-) All the best, take care. Ralf
Sandy, that Classic with Oak handles is a thing of sheer beauty.
I'm totaly in awe of your knife making skills.
Will acetone work with the oil or does it have to be spirits?
Can I still order a knife from you sir?
Great video my man ! I’ll get to it straight away !
Beautiful knife and good information Sandy, remember there are two types of blo or boiled linseed oil, actual boiled which is good, or artificially boiled with chemicals which is not so good, I soak mine in blo (with no spirits or kerosine) for 24 hours then use the old wisdom of once a day for a week, once a week for a month, once a month for a year, then as needed, seems to work.
On the blade I now use olive oil to make the knife food safe, although it can dry and go a tad tacky, I used to use Renaissance wax but was worried about its toxicity in food.
This is good information Shelley. Thankyou
Commenting seven years later, haha. I make a mixture with about 2 parts mineral oil and 1 part beeswax, heated to combine. The resulting cream is good for food safe applications, like cutting boards, utensils, etc. The mineral oil seems to absorb and also leave a thin coating of the wax that can be buffed later on. You can add some lemon oil, too, if you like the citrus scent.
Another excellent video, and helpful. I have often used boiled linseed oil for protecting wood, but without diluting it, which I would now like to do. My question is: What do you mean by the term, "white spirit"? I expect we have the same stuff in Canada but know it by another name. For instance, we have a flammable liquid called "white gas", or naphtha petroleum, which is widely available for certain camp stoves and lanterns that must be pressurized before use. Do you know if that's the same stuff? Thank you.
Its called "White spirit" over here but it is a turpentine substitute.
PESKY46 In the US we call it Mineral Spirits. Hope this helps.
Another really helpful and informative video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience, you are an inspiration.
nice video, but it should be noted that raw linseed oil will eventually polymerize, it will just take significantly longer(making it impractical for most people to apply).
Also be careful when applying boiled linseed oil, although it should be safe when hardened it contains several additives(at least in the US) that are not necessarily very healthy to expose yourself to excessively.
Great video Sandy!!! I am a big fan of the 50/50 mix!!
Brilliant video. You explain everything how and most importantly why. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
That's a beautiful knife... I love the natural look of the wood. I make knives for a hobby noting fancy. I was wondering how to harding my wood handle I didn't know how to do it until know. Thank you for your tip...
Love linseed Oil, use it for cleaning my furniture makes the house smell Grrreat! PEACE :-)
Raw Linseed oil is used with cement to make glazing putty, It takes months to set!!
Do you also use boiled linseed oil to maintain you're knife in the field? Thanks for the great information maybe I'll try and make a knife.
Hi Sandy, do you soak the handle after all the finishing sanding? And if so, does the wood not swell?
Have you ever tried using the vacuum stabilising chamber but loading the jar with your linseed mix. Would that work ? Or would you expect the same problems you get with the cactus juice ? cheers a.t.b.
You would get more oil into the fibres for sure but it would be a right mess to clean the tank afterwards and also the vapours may not be so good for the vacuum pump. I think I will just keep the tank reserved for the resin.
Thank you so much for this information, very much appreciated..
As you say Sandy the aim is to get the boiled linseed oil into the wood.... I am wondering if the same vacuum process you use with cactus juice on other woods could be used on a finished knife or would it make little difference.?
Good question John that has been answered in the description box:)
My knife looks like the one you showed at the end of the video. Thanks for the info and take care.
I coat a lot of my US Civil War relics with linseed oil to preserve them.
Sandi.
refind linseed oil and tru oil finish loads up the poors really good ..
Most useful information! Thank you good Sir.
You sure make a nice looking knife. Hoping one day to own one.
Another thoroughly enjoyable video. Going slightly off topic a few months ago you bought a battery powered respirator from Axminster tools, how are you finding the unit after a few months use?
Thank you.
Andy Brocklehurst it's good I use it every day but have to vacuum clean the filters often.
Hello Sandy, do you take the unstabilized wood to the buffer? Your finish looks great! I would be concerned with the open grain loading up with the compound.
You can buff on a wheel but you have to have a fairly fresh and clean mop and no compound. As you say the pores will just fill with compound otherwise.
hi sandy
Sorry to bother you as i know your really busy,i have a question about oak scales.
I have a knife with stabilised oak scales,as you stated i a recent youtube video the resin bleeds through when trying to finish the scales,do you know of anyway to remove this,sos linseed oil can be use as you've explained.if you haven't the time to answer dont worry i understand that your busy and i think theres nothing that can be done.thankyou
Wayne fox
What sort of resin was used Wayne?
I believe the old saying for treating with linseed oil is, "Once a day for a week, once a week for a month, once a month for a year then once a year." Someone please correct me if I have this wrong.
You will find that is called "The London stock finish". I covered it in another video on my other channel Wiltshireman:
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I spotted a T3 in 243!
LOL that is right:)
A jacklore is any wood with any finish is a work of art .
Chuckled at the quick flash of the new rifle Sandy , nice bit of kit
Come visit us in Sunny South Africa Sandy, that 243 is a perfect rifle for Springbuck hunting in our Karoo or semi desert region. We do what they call voorsit hunting where you get dopped off in the veld and you sit and wait for the Springbuck to walk and graze past you if they stop you get the oppurtunity to get a shot in. You are alone in the wide open veld for the whole Day which is an Amazing experience!! 243 is good until the wind start howeling then a 270 or 308 with a 150 grain bullets works better. Springbuck fillet on a hard wood coal fire will be the Best meat you will ever taste.....
True master of your craft sir.
Good advice hope all well atb scott
does the white spirit not damage the epoxy? is there certain epoxy we should avoid?
Should be fine once it is fully hardened. Not 100% sure though. I am trying this on my first knife now.
hi sandy good tip mate
get a vacuum chamber ma dude!
Hi Sandy , great video. What would be the end result if put only the finished knife in the vacuum chamber, then pulled it out , submersed it in a small container with the boiled linseed oil and then stuck the whole works into your pressure pot. ??Rob
Sandy asked us to read description box :), - otherwise why not.
I did read it, Just wondering if the pressure pot would help to force it in deeper, faster.
Sooey 911 I think the liquid like cactus oil is really thin stuff like they say and linseed with white spirit isn't that thin. So, cannot confirm that. They have tried various stuff in vacuum chamber without bigger success. Anyone knows better, please...
As soon as you remove the vacuum air being thin will immediately fill the vacuum Nature abhors a vacuum. You have to have the wood submerged in the oil before you apply the vacuum. There is also the chance that volatiles will boil away from the linseed and could cause damage to the pump.
What is the ratio of white spirits to linseed oil?
Thank you.
Most guys I've heard say 50/50
Beautiful knife!
Yet again a great video.
Thank you for another great video! I anxiously click the "Click here to see knives available now page" button several times a day. Hopefully you will have some soon!
I got a little chuckle out of this one. If I went to to one of the big home improvement stores over here across the pond and asked for white spirit, I would be the most racist SOB ever. LOL. Thankfully, we are now beginning to backtrack on the radical political correctness that has been growing exponentially for the past few years over here. A Google search confirmed my thought that this is called mineral spirits here.