So Utah is having fun being the villian in the big 12? Your record doesn't back that up? It's all talk and we see how that worked out. Truth is that you didn't want to be in the Big 12 in the first place. Nothing but spin here.
@@matthewhunter6421 I don't sense that. The program is not unlike Oklahoma State, TCU, Baylor, or Kansas State who have been in post season NY6 level bowl games and have high standards, I have no problem with that. Some Utes fans however are obnoxious like some Texas fans, but that's part of College Football too.
The big question I have is: What are the risks between the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) and state-sponsored collegiate athletic programs? It seems that conferences with state-sponsored members as the majority of their members face all kinds of risks.
The Utes don’t need the headaches, the baggage, and hate they’re getting from the Big 12. The Utes still have, and will always have a home in the PAC 12, their former home, when they are ready to return.
BYU was always our Much Bigger Brother until Urban Meyer and the PAC 12 gift. Most of our fans are aware that BYU will now start dominating us for the next 35 years.. AGAIN! Depressing times, but GO UTES‼️
Lol.hahaha urban myer!? That clown coached utah for what 2 years! It was Ron Mcbride, that brought utah back to being competitive! I am 60 and BYU didn't worry about utah at all when I was growing up!
if after one bad season Utah belongs in the Mt West, then OSU UCF and Kansas should be in the Mt West like half the Big12 the past few years if you want to use that rational. I am not fond of the Utah AD! him and some obnoxious and annoying Utah fans make the university look bad. Utah will bounce back next year with a healthy team
The 4C's went from the "conference of champions" with academic/athletic prestige to the worst P4 (by far) in athletics, academics, value per team, and prestige. It may take a generation for them to culturally adjust.
Conference of bigots! The whole crap12 was a miserable, back biting, hateful, arrogant piece of trash. Utah should have been with Washington state and Oregon state since they blew up the crap12.
@@joelpead2687 Regardless of any PAC12 culture, it was clearly successful in overall sports and had a high academic reputation. It had been clearly slipping athletically. Far better than the BIG12, which is clearly NOT a peer in overall sports: 2015/16 - 2023/24 Final D-Cup Standings (2020 N/A): ACC: 23 Top 10, 48 Top 20 (includes ND, STANFORD & CAL) B12: 00 Top 10, 06 Top 20 (includes AZST, excludes TEXAS & TXAM) B1G: 26 Top 10, 45 Top 20 (includes USC & UCLA) PAC: 00 Top 10, 00 Top 20 (excludes USC, UCLA, STANFORD, CAL & AZST) SEC: 31 Top 10, 60 Top 20 (includes TEXAS, OK & TXAM) Schools that finished 8x or more in the D-Cup Top 10 (1993/4 - 2022/23) ACC: 4 (STANFORD, UNC, UVA, CAL) SEC: 3 (TEXAS, FLORIDA, GEORGIA) B1G: 5 (UCLA, MICH, USC, OHSTATE, PSU) B12: 1 (ARIZ) The BIG8, SWC & BIG12 were never academic nor overall athletics branded conferences. As a result, those factors aren't fully understood by the related fans.
Didn't Utah beat Baylor 2 times? Lmao! Utah was dominating in the Pac-12 and beating USC and the ducks. Utah had some key injures on defense last season too, and with Cam. Maybe you should focus your bears because you guys sucked too. GO Ducks!
Utah won the Pac-12 when it was very much down. Every team has a range of ability that centers around their players (not just recruiting rankings - see BYU and the service academies) and coaches, and fluctuates within that range for the most part. Utah's range was never as good as Oregon, USC or Washington, they just had their stuff together when all 3 of those programs did not.
@@fringeelements Yeah Pac-12 was very much alive and competition was the best few year ago. The fact that Utah has always been a good team all these years, just down year for them, just like BYU last year, it happens. Utah will march back up with heavy recruiting and great coaches that they hired and compete for a title in the coming years. And every team rebuilds does the same thing. Utah has a great student support system too.
😂😂 It’s always about injuries with Utah! They think they’re the only team who has injuries! Could be because your team isn’t good enough to stay healthy. Dominating the pac12? Utah won the conference 2 years when the pac completely sucked! Pac was decent in 2023 but the decade before that was horrible! Bet you’d never guess that before the 23 season the BIG 12 was 16-4 vs the pac in the previous 20 games. Yeah Utah beat baylor twice. You guys talk about how bad the refs were vs BYU when Utah ACTUALLY held, go back and watch the last play of the 1st baylor game and that’s a legit horrible no call PI! It was “STOLEN” from Baylor! 😂
@@bullseye2474 Yeah that call was legit, on Utah and BYU. Your team is a joke. Utah came and beat some good BIG10 and BIG 12 teams, Oregon beat lots of BIG 12 schools! Don't talk about my ducks, because your too scared too! Your lame and so is your team! Come on have your losing team come and play Utah next year or Oregon next year, you guys will get your A beat! Your bears will be open season! Hahahahahahaha!
Utahs going to rebound strong next year. Cam Rising being hurt was the reason they fell flat. If Utah really is the team that everyone hates in the Big12 then just open the floodgates now cause you're gonna hate them even more when they start winning back to back Big12 titles.
The current Big 12 is a tougher conference than the Pac-12 was when Utah won it. In 2022, Utah lost to Florida by 3 and Penn State by 14, despite winning the Pac-12. And in 2021 BYU won the Pac 12 silly! BYU of course similarly lost against non-conference opponents Baylor, Boise and UAB.
The good thing about the BIG 12 is anyone can win the championship. Other conferences hate that because it challenges the status quo. They see it as instability.
@PhillipHollins-qh3vt youre wrong. You can't play lights out defense all game long when your offense is three and out. Utah showed on most occasions they could stop you when they wanted. Was it there best defense ever? No. But it was still good enough to win you games and Utahs offense didn't do them any favors.
So Utah is having fun being the villian in the big 12? Your record doesn't back that up? It's all talk and we see how that worked out. Truth is that you didn't want to be in the Big 12 in the first place. Nothing but spin here.
Polarizing? Nah just some Ute fans
Nah, it's the school, and program.
@@matthewhunter6421 I don't sense that. The program is not unlike Oklahoma State, TCU, Baylor, or Kansas State who have been in post season NY6 level bowl games and have high standards, I have no problem with that. Some Utes fans however are obnoxious like some Texas fans, but that's part of College Football too.
The big question I have is: What are the risks between the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) and state-sponsored collegiate athletic programs? It seems that conferences with state-sponsored members as the majority of their members face all kinds of risks.
DOGE is about shoveling public money into private companies attached to the right people. Not sure how that relates to college athletics.
Based on what exactly?
Based of this year they should be in the mt west
Utah the New Utah ST 🤣
It's an 11 hour drive from Ames to Dallas. That's quite a haul.
Or a 2 hour flight.
@@joelpead2687 He was talking about the DRIVE.
@@NativeTexan really!? Thanks for the explanation! Duh!
@@joelpead2687 You're welcome.
If you're talking about attendance or lack thereof, Utah fans need to check out the attendance at UCLA, USC, Stanford, and Cal.
The Utes don’t need the headaches, the baggage, and hate they’re getting from the Big 12. The Utes still have, and will always have a home in the PAC 12, their former home, when they are ready to return.
Our Academics entrance requirements are like a junior college. Eventually, I think we’ll be sent back to the Mountain West Conference. GO UTES‼️
But wait I thought Utah was gonna run the big 12?! 🤣🤡
BYU was always our Much Bigger Brother until Urban Meyer and the PAC 12 gift. Most of our fans are aware that BYU will now start dominating us for the next 35 years.. AGAIN! Depressing times, but GO UTES‼️
Lol.hahaha urban myer!? That clown coached utah for what 2 years! It was Ron Mcbride, that brought utah back to being competitive! I am 60 and BYU didn't worry about utah at all when I was growing up!
Utah has 62 Wins to 32 losses and 4 ties to BYU. Go out side and touch grass, maybe stop smoking it, your bishop wouldn’t approve.
@@joelpead2687McBride was great. I wish he were still around
Utah is lame honestly. They aren’t,even on anybody’s radar as a big name or big program.
JT is the biggest homer in all of Locked In lol.
Utah and the B10? Lolololol
Utah isn't having fun and playing the villain, but if that's how you want to spin acting like a bunch of entitled tools, so be it
Big 12 needed a new bad guy after Texas left for a power conference.
Utah is not Texas😅
Toxic fans are toxic fans
I like the Utes, watch that BYU game?
if after one bad season Utah belongs in the Mt West, then OSU UCF and Kansas should be in the Mt West like half the Big12 the past few years if you want to use that rational. I am not fond of the Utah AD! him and some obnoxious and annoying Utah fans make the university look bad. Utah will bounce back next year with a healthy team
Texas is gone. Big 12 NEEDS someone else to step up and be the villain, so they have a place.
Big 12 doesn't have any actual major programs, not even one!
@bigfootwalker5399 it has eight or nine good ones that can take turns being as good as those programs.
I want to have the Utes in the conference. I love watching my BYU cougars play them yearly it is like the state of Utah's Superbowl!
The 4C's went from the "conference of champions" with academic/athletic prestige to the worst P4 (by far) in athletics, academics, value per team, and prestige. It may take a generation for them to culturally adjust.
Lol.hahaha conference of champions!? More like conference of chumps!
Conference of bigots! The whole crap12 was a miserable, back biting, hateful, arrogant piece of trash. Utah should have been with Washington state and Oregon state since they blew up the crap12.
@@joelpead2687 Regardless of any PAC12 culture, it was clearly successful in overall sports and had a high academic reputation. It had been clearly slipping athletically. Far better than the BIG12, which is clearly NOT a peer in overall sports:
2015/16 - 2023/24 Final D-Cup Standings (2020 N/A):
ACC: 23 Top 10, 48 Top 20 (includes ND, STANFORD & CAL)
B12: 00 Top 10, 06 Top 20 (includes AZST, excludes TEXAS & TXAM)
B1G: 26 Top 10, 45 Top 20 (includes USC & UCLA)
PAC: 00 Top 10, 00 Top 20 (excludes USC, UCLA, STANFORD, CAL & AZST)
SEC: 31 Top 10, 60 Top 20 (includes TEXAS, OK & TXAM)
Schools that finished 8x or more in the D-Cup Top 10 (1993/4 - 2022/23)
ACC: 4 (STANFORD, UNC, UVA, CAL)
SEC: 3 (TEXAS, FLORIDA, GEORGIA)
B1G: 5 (UCLA, MICH, USC, OHSTATE, PSU)
B12: 1 (ARIZ)
The BIG8, SWC & BIG12 were never academic nor overall athletics branded conferences. As a result, those factors aren't fully understood by the related fans.
Didn't Utah beat Baylor 2 times? Lmao! Utah was dominating in the Pac-12 and beating USC and the ducks. Utah had some key injures on defense last season too, and with Cam. Maybe you should focus your bears because you guys sucked too. GO Ducks!
Baylor is going to a bowl game. Every team has injury issues to deal with.
Utah won the Pac-12 when it was very much down. Every team has a range of ability that centers around their players (not just recruiting rankings - see BYU and the service academies) and coaches, and fluctuates within that range for the most part. Utah's range was never as good as Oregon, USC or Washington, they just had their stuff together when all 3 of those programs did not.
@@fringeelements Yeah Pac-12 was very much alive and competition was the best few year ago. The fact that Utah has always been a good team all these years, just down year for them, just like BYU last year, it happens. Utah will march back up with heavy recruiting and great coaches that they hired and compete for a title in the coming years. And every team rebuilds does the same thing. Utah has a great student support system too.
😂😂 It’s always about injuries with Utah! They think they’re the only team who has injuries! Could be because your team isn’t good enough to stay healthy.
Dominating the pac12? Utah won the conference 2 years when the pac completely sucked! Pac was decent in 2023 but the decade before that was horrible! Bet you’d never guess that before the 23 season the BIG 12 was 16-4 vs the pac in the previous 20 games.
Yeah Utah beat baylor twice. You guys talk about how bad the refs were vs BYU when Utah ACTUALLY held, go back and watch the last play of the 1st baylor game and that’s a legit horrible no call PI! It was “STOLEN” from Baylor! 😂
@@bullseye2474 Yeah that call was legit, on Utah and BYU. Your team is a joke. Utah came and beat some good BIG10 and BIG 12 teams, Oregon beat lots of BIG 12 schools! Don't talk about my ducks, because your too scared too! Your lame and so is your team! Come on have your losing team come and play Utah next year or Oregon next year, you guys will get your A beat! Your bears will be open season! Hahahahahahaha!
Your right more like wac or mountain west 🌵
Lol.hahaha with teams that have winning records vs the short horns and the gooners!
Utahs going to rebound strong next year. Cam Rising being hurt was the reason they fell flat. If Utah really is the team that everyone hates in the Big12 then just open the floodgates now cause you're gonna hate them even more when they start winning back to back Big12 titles.
No disrespect but Utah's defense was equally as bad. Cam's situation was just part of the problem.
The current Big 12 is a tougher conference than the Pac-12 was when Utah won it. In 2022, Utah lost to Florida by 3 and Penn State by 14, despite winning the Pac-12. And in 2021 BYU won the Pac 12 silly! BYU of course similarly lost against non-conference opponents Baylor, Boise and UAB.
The good thing about the BIG 12 is anyone can win the championship. Other conferences hate that because it challenges the status quo. They see it as instability.
@PhillipHollins-qh3vt youre wrong. You can't play lights out defense all game long when your offense is three and out. Utah showed on most occasions they could stop you when they wanted. Was it there best defense ever? No. But it was still good enough to win you games and Utahs offense didn't do them any favors.
Lol.hahaha! Big mouth does not win championships! Total domination! Hehe he hahaha! Unt fans!