What I absolutely loved about this game is how it gave the message "Monsters are not born, they are made." as shown by Oersted's story and how it ended.
Oersted, after being framed as a monster, finally lost it when he realised that his friend betrayed him, and after his lover committed suicide due to her Stockholm syndrome. Guess Joker was right: All it takes is one bad day...
You can summarize the reason oersted summon other character is because of jelousy of them having a favourable ending, while he getting betrayed, cucked and got framed as a dark lord
I don't even blame Oersted. Everything happening in the span of this chapter was in the span of a day. Too much happening too fast is bound to be damaging. Also, if he let Althea by Oersted's side, he could have become the court wizard. He may not have a wife, but he'd still have a high position regardless.
Just finished this earlier. I saw both the original & remade version of this chapter, but even then, the twist still shocks me. Rather than beat an incarnation of Odio, you BECOME him. Fucking insane.
It seems Oersted killed everyone and the blood splash everywhere in this kingdom, but I somehow still feel sorry for the kid, the only one still believe Oersted is the true hero even this happen. Did Oersted really kill him? It’s hard to imagine…
After he become Odio, Oersted wasnt himself anymore. In his last boss battle he start recover his mind in each damage de demon king receive. I dont think he would kill the kid, but Odio was in charge.
I dunno- part of what makes this so impactful is the player agency element. As the player, you've immersed yourself in the game as the character. Then like Oersted you see your efforts turned into something twisted and horrible due to circumstances beyond your control. Just watching it happen to a character might not be as effective. Kinda like Silent Hill movies where immersing yourself in the atmosphere is different from watching someone else get immersed.
Not many games do a lot of twists where the playable character begins a hero and lose everything, to the point that they give up on humanity. And those who tried can only dream of having the perfect execution Live-A-Live did. Is there any wonder why this is in my Top 10 GOATs? Heart's out for Oersted, I can relate to him to a certain extent.
@@Sephiroth08150 this is why even with the additional final boss exlcusive to the remake, oersted doesn't get to live. he's done too much, has too much blood on his hands, but at least he dies with his sanity once more and able to at least feel remorse for what he had done.
Streibough: this will not end the way you think
well, he was right about one thing
Classic Streibough
What I absolutely loved about this game is how it gave the message "Monsters are not born, they are made." as shown by Oersted's story and how it ended.
This game is certainly something else!
Oersted, after being framed as a monster, finally lost it when he realised that his friend betrayed him, and after his lover committed suicide due to her Stockholm syndrome.
Guess Joker was right:
All it takes is one bad day...
That moment where the music started at the end sends a shiver down my spine and I love it.
Amazing twist, Middle Ages is my favorite chapter so far
Mine too!
the entire plot of live-a-live happened because Streibough was too much of a sore loser to just take the L
classic entitled incel moment
You can summarize the reason oersted summon other character is because of jelousy of them having a favourable ending, while he getting betrayed, cucked and got framed as a dark lord
I don't even blame Oersted. Everything happening in the span of this chapter was in the span of a day. Too much happening too fast is bound to be damaging.
Also, if he let Althea by Oersted's side, he could have become the court wizard. He may not have a wife, but he'd still have a high position regardless.
@@Sephiroth08150 he'd also not have committed high treason, murder and then died
They did SUCH a good job on remaking this chapter! 🥰
I agree! The drama, the visuals, the music. Chef's kiss!
Glad to finally see this scene without commentary. Thanks! 👍
Enjoy!
Just finished this earlier. I saw both the original & remade version of this chapter, but even then, the twist still shocks me.
Rather than beat an incarnation of Odio, you BECOME him.
Fucking insane.
I was so surprised when I experienced that twist! Really cool!
It seems Oersted killed everyone and the blood splash everywhere in this kingdom, but I somehow still feel sorry for the kid, the only one still believe Oersted is the true hero even this happen. Did Oersted really kill him? It’s hard to imagine…
It’s obvious he eradicated everyone, and made his world infested with time paradox from all timelines. Akaria’s dungeon heavily implied this.
The interesting thing is the implication of the kid's undying belief actually hindering Orested's Odioness
After he become Odio, Oersted wasnt himself anymore. In his last boss battle he start recover his mind in each damage de demon king receive. I dont think he would kill the kid, but Odio was in charge.
The monster killed its creators. All of them. To the last.
This game could be an insane and epic anime
Completely agree!
I dunno- part of what makes this so impactful is the player agency element. As the player, you've immersed yourself in the game as the character. Then like Oersted you see your efforts turned into something twisted and horrible due to circumstances beyond your control.
Just watching it happen to a character might not be as effective. Kinda like Silent Hill movies where immersing yourself in the atmosphere is different from watching someone else get immersed.
Oersted seiyuu is Yuichi Nakamura (Satoru Gojo, etc, etc) Damn!!
Not many games do a lot of twists where the playable character begins a hero and lose everything, to the point that they give up on humanity.
And those who tried can only dream of having the perfect execution Live-A-Live did. Is there any wonder why this is in my Top 10 GOATs?
Heart's out for Oersted, I can relate to him to a certain extent.
A Joker moment years before the movie
Why am I not surprised that the Middle Ages are where everythiing goes to hell.
What happened to the kingdom after that? There was no one left alive.
It’s obvious that Odio killed them all..
Akira’s trail gave us a hint, you will find them all there and you can use his power to read their last words
After the final chapter, there's no one left to live there.
@@Sephiroth08150 this is why even with the additional final boss exlcusive to the remake, oersted doesn't get to live. he's done too much, has too much blood on his hands, but at least he dies with his sanity once more and able to at least feel remorse for what he had done.
Square became this odio now ironically.
or as I call it "the standard JRPG plot but EVERYTHING goes WRONG"