Christmas 1983 on BBCtv part One (inc a quick look at tv-am & ch4)
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- Breakfast tv now in full swing. The idents actually now deserve a mention but still don't appear until quite late on Christmas Eve (and this selection) . This may have tempted fate as on part 2 the BBC1 ident gets stuck.
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Those graphics and idents are so warm. I daresay at the time they felt cutting edge and modern, but it feels so much more like Christmas than the modern versions of what we’re fed.
I agree, they do have a warmth look to them, a very organic feeling. Today they are soulless computer style graphics.
@@Embracing01 Probably nostalgia talking, as I daresay back in 1983 these look very clean and modern; wonder if kids born later who grew up with the current BBC indents will share the same nostalgic feeling for the modern style as we do for the older style?
Either way - all the old BBC stuff on UA-cam make me feel so much more festive than anything from the last 15-20 years.
Did anyone else look forward to getting the Xmas bumper edition of the Radio Times magazine or TV Times? My sister and I used to get it two weeks before and sit and plan out Xmas Eve, Xmas Day, Boxing Day, New Year's Eve and Day all to the second. A list of days, times and shows would be made every year, and of course we never got to see it all (unless we hadn't moved from in front of the tele), but the excitment at doing it and then trying to watch things on the list was amazing. It used to be planned from like 0500 until about 2200. Little things like that used to be so amazing!!!
Radio and TV Times were BBC and ITV only when I was little so it was a major scheduling task! I don’t think ANYONE else in my rather large family appreciated having their viewing dictated to them - but it was Christmas. I often came back from the toilet to find a disruption to programmes!
Wow so true. We used to check the scheduling to see if any good shows or films clashed. Magical times
Yes I did too at the time. Of course at the time in 1983, the Radio Times covered BBC1 and BBC2 on tv as well as BBC Radios 1, 2, 3, 4; whilst the TV Times covered ITV-all areas, and by then Channel 4 also. It was not until March 1991 that they and the other magazines that then started were able to do a full listings of all the channels as they do now then. I always felt that it was an odd set up although newspapers were allowed to print the same day listings too at the time.
But yes I do remember. In fact, I think 1983 Christmas time was the first time I remember too having both in advance also and planning what to see also. But yes, as others have said too, then somehow was less commercial, if that is the word, than it is today in comparison really. A shame of course, but I guess that is how it is now then. Thank you anyway!!
The March 1991 change was I think to do with the Broadcasting Act Bill of 1990 by the way as far as I know too.
Personally didn’t do it, but loved Christmas TV from the era I was a kid - between 1994-1996 was probably the golden time of it for me.
I’ve since grabbed the Christmas Radio Times from these years off eBay to reminisce.
Honestly think TV was so much better back then - was wholesome, and the whole family would gather around the living room TV. Nowadays, we’re spoiled for choice with kids on their phones, tablets or whatever else watching Netflix, Disney+ or UA-cam and it’s really taken out that feeling of togetherness we had once upon a time.
Decent christmas viewing and no ghastly Simon Cowell, Ant and Dec etc in sight!!!
Took the words out my mouth, so god damn true, that statement
@@jasecox3912 Too right mate, miss those great days of decent tv.
Buy the dvds. Have a free zone.
But Jimmy Savile 🤷🤷
@@mattgriffiths8567 oh god yes 😬
Much better times than now, i was 15 in Xmas in 83 as a kid u felt the warmth & the excitement of Christmas coming up & the Christmas tv was much better & looked Christmassy unlike now. Was simpler times but much more exciting & people were happier back then. Memories too as my parents were still very much with me along with my sisters still at home & my sister waking me up on Christmas morning. Great times & memories
Agreed.
For me, that ‘perfect’ period was the early to mid 90s.
I think the advancement of technology has led to the decline of the old traditional Christmas’ that we remember and love.
With the amount of on demand content out there now, coupled with the fact everyone has ways of watching media on their phones, tablets, etc, I think the idea of all crowding round the set over Christmas to watch TV as a family is becoming less and less traditional. It’s sad really.
Honestly feel that we were better off with less channels available to us. The quality was better due to the competition between BBC and ITV - nowadays, there are too many players out there vying for attention which has led to a dramatic decline in quality.
The same incorrect moan was made then..
I was also 15 then nearly 16 in January 1984 so I know what you mean there too really.
Pure magic, I was 10 and filled with the joys of Christmas, Wonderful memories...
I was seven years old what a great time it was to be a kid miss those xmas's now more than anything since losing my mum reminds me of much happier times when life was simple and Xmas was filled with presents Xmas dinner tins of roses or quality street lots of laughs and brilliant films cartoons and tv shows you always looked forward to the xmas announcements to see what was showing over the xmas period
Loved the Christmas telly growing up in the 1980s, they were simpler and less complicated times, and the excitement and build up to the festive season and Christmas day tv was always a fun time of year......miss those great times.
Chris Evans why Christmas has to start at the beginning of December (on tv) and ruin was ideal for three days binge tv I’ll never know. Thank you itv (who never do any good out it anyway)
It starts in June now!
Exactly so agree Christmas 1982 and 1983 were wonderful Christmas always a build up to Christmas over the weeks plus great Christmas TV programmes. Much happier simpler times
@@markdavies5933 You are so right there too!!
@bdavebaldwin the Great Christmas TV movie channel starts in September, just so ludicrous
I was born in 1983, so this was my very first Christmas! Christmas in the 1980s & early 90s was fantastic... much simpler and nicer..
Everything always is simpler and nicer when you're a kid.
@@th8257 just better times
Me too March 1983
June '83. 80s and 90s were the best!
@@vxrdrummer 70s was the best
Maggie Smith acting with David Niven 0:17! I was 16 in ‘83. Hearing the theme tunes to TVAM and Breakfast time took me right back to my school days. Where did all my school mates go? Didn’t like school much...but what I would do to go back to those days!
It's funny the memories that this brings back. Watching BBC Breakfast instantly made me feel cold - flashbacks of having to get up in winter to go to school.
God yes .I hated school !
@@melgrant7404 Never mind, school is over now. Long in our past.
@@Loverboy19691 thank goodness!
@silva geko I went to Heolddu (Heol thee) Comprehensive school in Bargoed (Bar-goyd) in Wales from 1980 to 1985 and I would wake up to Terry Wogan in the morning, starting up just after Ray Moore, this was 1980. By 1983 my stepdad started watching BBC breakfast and TV am, so many memories of those days, some good, some not so good. I still think back to those days when I'm reminded of a particular 1980's song or clips like this video.
@silva geko By the time I left school in 1985 I started my YTS near Caerphilly so I had to get up earlier so I had stopped watching TV am and saw very little if any Big breakfast, can't stand Chris Evans and Zig and Zag was just as annoying as Roland Rat LOL
Thank you for the pleasant thoughts, memories and emotions which this video evoked. The original theme tune and Title design for Breakfast Time were as always tremendously moving, the topping being Frank Bough. The quintessence of Gentlemanly Professionalism whilst maintaining the presence of a homely uncle.
At the risk of repetition, thank you once again.
I love watching TV programmes, voice announcers & commercials from this era. They are soft, well spoken, not rushed, not in your face, quieter, relaxing, warm and comforting vice announcers, adverts & prorgammes. They seem less *cold* than adverts, announcers & programmes today which are hard, loud, common (some times more ghetto sounding due to diversity quotas) fast paced, slap bang wallop editing, in your face, full on CGI effects, tense, rushed and as a result just so so 'cold' just like today's world. So I switch these on for some comfort and reassurance.
I agree with you there. Television back then was so much better and more calm than it is today. In Ireland, the national broadcasters (RTE, TV3, etc) only broadcast reality programmes, violent soap opera's, lifestyle programmes, current affairs and gameshows. Back then, there was something for everyone and the adverts and continuity before programmes was so much better and more personal than it is today. I hate nowadays. I miss the past.
You are so right there really-alas too of course!!
@@brucedanton3669 That's why I love Today on Radio 4 - no music, no jingles, no distraction - just voices.
I miss 1983
good memories and I loved the BBC2 perspex Christmas trees and the BBC One snowflake simple times but very beautiful.
Almost as beautiful as Selina Scott!
@@Tmuk2 And there was nothing perspex about Selina Scott.
God I remember that Christmas 🎄 showing Flash Gordon!
Better times for sure. If only we could go back!
@@MrEnterthehole That just negativity man. I'm not suggesting it was all good. But overall better it was.
Flash Gordon - what a film. Remember having the old VHS ready for that. I think as there were only 4 channels, more effort was made with the programming. Now all you get is reality shows, cooking shows and the X Factor.
I turned off when Peter Duncan died. Rude.
@@Strawberry_pjs I attended Peter Duncan's funeral and it was heartache. He was the life and soul of Blue Peter and the BBC Television Centre. I remember designing his white and green chequered suite for him and I felt so honoured when he wore it on tv! This was the same suite he was clothed in at his funeral. At his request they put him (his body) into the suite. They played the famous Blue Peter theme then we all cryed!
I watched Flash Gordon that Christmas Eve on a portable black and white telly with my sister. I was 7 she was 12 or there abouts. I remember it well but would never have been able to date it but for this.
I was in my final year at school, leaving in May 1984, & I remember the brilliant diversity of programmes across the 4 channels. I remember watching the TV premiere of Flash Gordon on Christmas Eve on BBC ONE, followed by the live stereo simulcast on Paul Young's concert on BBC TWO & Radio 1 before concluding the night with Santa Claus vs The Martians (no kidding) that was the concluding film in Channel 4's "The Worst Of Hollywood" season. A world away from the banal, one-dimensional schedules today
Back then it really was xmas unlike today.
Marc Law so true. It really felt special in those days. Now it just feels like a massive corporate cash grab with the soul ripped out of it.
I can't wait to get out of this hell hole at Christmas. Its as if everyone thinks they're missing a bargain and have to be at the shops at 5am boxing day to fight over a tv they don't need. I save up all year to go to spain or Portugal rather chill with a beer
Roger Mellie it did then too, you've just forgotten.
@@marcusphoenixish quite right.i am off to Tenerife for Christmas
@@donna1420 I'm looking at tenerife next Christmas it's supposed to be warmer than mainland Spain and Portugal. I'm not far from Barcelona this Christmas. You enjoy yourself 👍
The rush of nostalgia watching this was wonderful. Thanks.
This was when Christmas Tv meant something it was as exciting as opening your presents now it's just endless soaps and repeats...
I was 12 back then but I remember all these programs clearly.. I know I was a kid but I loved Christmas then.. Things seem so uptight now.. I often think a trip back in a time machine for just one more 80s Christmas......,,,,
That’s a regular wish. I’d probably have a full Tardis
Ahhh better and simple times when it really felt like Christmas and in my opinion better TV.
So many memories
Thank you
The days when Christmas shows were top quality
I love at 13:08 the BBC's programme schedule backdrop. It looks like someone popped out to the market and bought some wrapping paper 😂
“The Circus World Championships’
Or as it’s known today, “Britain’s Got Talent “
Think this for me is the worst of the 80s Christmas ident, still a fantastic video, and thanks for uploading
I love the way Nick Knowles kicks off a 6:25am show with a cheery ‘hello again!’
Dang, love the good morning britain intro sequence, not seen that in a long time !
Funny, I remember Tv-Am being on ITV. I was only six years old at the time so I probably don't remember what I was watching but it was probably more fun than it would appear to have been. 😉
When Christmas was Christmas
I can clearly remember the excitement throughout the country to find out which carol was going to be sung live by Men Only.
Pure Heaven. We moved into our first house in 1983. I was 7 and kind of half remember the music logos and sounds.
Val Doonican seemed to be a Christmas presence for most of the 70s and 80s. He bounced between working for BBC and ITV during the years, but was nearly always on over each festive season with his usual dollop of Christmas soup for the soul.
Thanks so much for this excellent quality upload, don't know how I haven't seen it before. BBC Breakfast was such a class act, the titles done in only the way the BBC could do it, just lovely, I could watch it all day; it was so very sad when they went to the formal news format, it seemed like a death at the time!! Amazing to see the making of the idents & the actually see them on screen well done David, the BBC1 star was stunning. My only criticism or suggestion, this clip show is great, but why not upload whole shows, you seem to have them & in very good quality, I'd love to see hours of this, as I'm sure would many, it would be a great archive addition to YT - PLEASE ;-) Subbed!
loved the bit showing the BBC tech folk making the idents!
+richard mattocks All those cans with the Christmas programmes in. Imagine the duty monkey opening one up like The Two Ronnies and - SHIT! IT'S EMPTY! WHAT DO I PUT ON NOW?!
I did too I loved seeing the perspex trees and snowflake!
It took a terrestrial tv channel 7 years to buy Rocky!
Before Sky's cheque book appeared we had to wait a minimum of 5 years before a TV showing and then it went to the highest bidder - usually bundled with a load of back catalogue stuff to sweeten the deal. Disney went rogue years before. Seeing the Christmas value of his movies he refused TV showings of the classic ones and made tv crawl for the rest
@@bdavebaldwin First it was 5 years, then 3 (with some exceptions - Tim Burton's Batman had its TV premiere 2 years after its cinema release), then 1... now it's usually about 6 months.
The joys of being 18 when this was broadcast
I was thirteen!
Me to born October 65
The Breakfast Time weather graphics were decades ahead of their time. It's very similar to the style that the BBC use today. Remember, this was an age where weather forecasters placed cloud shapes cutouts onto a board.
Perhaps the BBC weather graphics of today are simply decades BEHIND their time? Or perhaps they just couldn't improve on the 1980s?
I'd just turned 17 when these were broadcast, had left school earlier in the year, and was spending my first Christmas as an A Level college student. I always look back on those days with great nostalgia, but watching this now, I have to say that it don't 'alf look stuffy! 😁
Love it Good Morning Britain studio looked like an explosion in a tinsel factory, whereas Breakfast Time was all prim and proper decorations.
TV-am were probably glad they had survived up to Christmas 1983, as they nearly collapse in May 1983 on the verge of bankruptcy.
It's amazing how accents have changed since then
This would have been my first Christmas! 😂 I couldn’t have remembered but weird to think I was a new born while all this was happening.
1:37 Glitterball has always stayed in my mind! I always think of it when they’re plugging movies at Christmas
I've been trying to find out the name of that film for years! I remember we had it taped on Betamax (!). I remember the ball eating through things :-)
@@FranzSanchez-ky9up Looking back, it wasn’t the biggest movie for Christmas Day! But because of the build up and the slot it was in, I’ve never forgotten it.
Although Temple of Doom and Back to the Future in the same slot in later years were slightly better movies 😂
@FranzSanchez-ky9up it loved custard 😂
AHH the BBC was so lovely and innocent in 1983
it was going well till jimmy saville popped up
agreed...that could do with being edited-out
Yes sadly
The BBC would probably prefer if it was edited out, pretend it never happened, forget they covered it up for so many years. I prefer it left untouched.
Now then, now then...
Was that an intended pun? :D
1983 was a MASSIVE improvement than 1982
Selina Scott...... yummy
Thanks for sharing this
1983 was a great year…T.V AM was so welcoming..While BBC’s Breakfast Time seemed so stuffy…Glad to see that something’s don’t change.!
Oh blimey i can remember my dad recording rocky and hooper ,on betamax video , this brings back so many memories
it's comforting to know that TV was as crap back then as it is now
Well it was really the BBC that were crap,
@@admiralackbar9307 other thn BEEB we only had ITV
Only four channels, yet we always found something to watch.
Ahh - but it was Quality crap!!
We need a time machine 😟
When Christmas was Christmas how I wish I could go back to better times than the crap that's going on know 😁
I've still got Flash Gordon recorded on VHS tape when it was shown on Xmas Eve!
Four years later all the recordings are digitised by the broadcasters so recording it becomes a waste of time
Ahhh..Those were the days. Only 1 Bobby needed to guard the streets !😂
Back when Christmas started in December not fucking October.
Loved Xmas day at home...all the hubbab of opening pressies mum doing the dinner . going to pick up nan.. loved it
I'm surprised how modern the weather maps were.! I remember more the magnets. Magnetic clouds n sun shines stuck on to a board!
Hahaha! Love the trailer for Khartoum - with Laurence Olivier as "The Mad Mahdi" - clearly written by Lance Corporal Jones - "Them Fuzzy-wuzzies don't like it up 'em!"
I don't mean to be pedantic but TVAM was ITV not BBC! Love the tinsel & proper decorations however, annoys me they don't do that now.
Haha, Anne Diamond looks cute here. Man I was just a kid back then lol; loved TVam :-)
Although it's been said many times (and even though 4 channels were up and running by 1983) viewers really did have to take what they were given (essentially BBC1 v ITV) or switch off..
I always remember a movie in my head , a Christmas movie. I don’t know the name, but it had an alien disguised as a human , but left green footsteps where it has walked in the snow
Christmas on BBC....How did TV-AM get in there......lol. Good memories though.🎁
lent on the remote control sorry hahaha
Oh my god I remember most of this.
This was great
Wonderful
Selenea Scott introducing "Men Only", fucking hell, haha!
Did anyone spot the slight blip in one of the rotating perspex fir trees on the BBC2 logo towards the end there?
In 1983 BBC Breakfast Time had a break for their first Christmas. Their last edition before Christmas was on Friday December 23rd, and they would not return until Wednesday December 28th. Their commercial rival TV-am had no such break. They were on air everyday no matter whether it was Christmas or not.
Good old TV tech , would been busy working in the BBC's tech department making those trees and the snowflake!
That Pebble Mill theme is such a banger
Alan Partridge would fit in well on 1983 breakfast time
That's pretty much where the inspiration for Alan partridge came from. He's a mix of TV and sports presenters from the 80s
BBC Breakfast is so corporate neutral today. Sorry, I know Uncle Frank had his problems but I much preferred the production values of this era. Today, much as I like Sally Nugent et.al I feel like I'm watching a corporate training dvd on manual handling.
33 years ago it was Breakfast time vs TV AM and it's still going 33 nearly 34 years later.
Wincey’s bumper Christmas hampers
2:45… oh wow! Nick and Anne!
4:38… and Selina Scott!!!
Morning TV presenter Sweaters have a lot to answer for.
7:48 Do I have to?...Oh, I don't! 🤣
Anybody got the rotating Christmas pudding? Hope it survived 😀
Dear God, it seemed grim. I was 19 in 1983, and thought it was all so wonderful. How low our expectations were.
Yup, it's easy to forget just how dreary times were then. A grey, dull country. It can be a bit startling when you see things from the time like this.
T H it's probably grimmer now, but marketing is better. We now live in a world were we think everything's great, but it isn't.
same as I was 20 I thought this was great except boughs comb over . the films premiered were absolute crap
Now I remember why I spent so much time in the pub! 🤪
@@philjones45 very true.
Things are more cynical and more manipulative now.
Can't imagine that you would have a singing group called 'Men only' now!
I recorded over most of the programme because I quite honestly thought it was a waste of tape. Last year the daughter of one of that group wanted a recording as no other copy exists and she wanted a memory of her dad. Ooops.
@@bdavebaldwinThat's a shame, but at least she got a bit of the video showing her dad though☺️
Frank Bough caught in the Dungeon!
God it was raining even back then.
So poshly spoken!
Re-living my childhood :) Im sure GMB was on itv though?
It was Christmas so I invited the neighbours to take part
Jimmy Saville...14:08 ...If only we knew back then ...Used to love Jim'll Fix It as a kid ...So creepy to think about it now
When you add in Stuart Hall and Rolf Harris it saves us from watching a lot of old programming
Frank Bough - What a star - Later found by the cops coked-up and wearing a Gimp mask while chained to the ceiling in an S & M dungeon. You would never guess to look at him. Must give that a try.
Perversion was rife at the BBC, they employed loads of sleazy characters. Apparently Bough was desperate to bone that German singer Nena. He was a right dirty bastard.
Good old Frank
Rebecca Nokes really was he into German hairy armpits in a big way ?
Frank BOughNER
Stay away from the Christmas candles with that hair Anne!
Frank sat there with full block and tackle beneath his clothing 🤣
Day off from Miss Whiplash
@@bdavebaldwin 🤣🙏👍🇬🇧
Selina Scott with her boots on the coffee table... 5:26
Love how relaxed she always seemed. On the subject of boots I seem to recollect she often had her shoes off I think
She would be about 90 now.....
craig davidson eh she is actually 68
Poor old nigel he was on a place in france rip.
Didn't realise James Stewart owned Lassie for a while
Going by the acting in that clip you'd think he was related to it
That clip of TVam always s confuses me every time I watch this lol. I keep thinking “I’m sure Anne and Nick weren’t on the been back then.
Not these days sadly. But the extra bog paper comes in handy
2:14 I knew BBC one had TV am.....
Jimmy , in the thick of it
Sideshow "Jinxed" Jimmy "Sadic" Saville. Otherwise known as both The Abusive Violator and The Violator Abuser.
Waiting seven years for Rocky to turn up on T.V seems unfathomable these days.
Tv had to take, leave it or get in a bidding war. BBC once dithered in a deal with Disney- who simply offered the package to itv.
@@bdavebaldwin I saw a video on here the other day of the BBC 2 premiere of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest in late 1988... that's 13 years after it had been originally released! I'm guessing the delay was more due to the film's controversial subject matter, though.
@@FranzSanchez-ky9up when Alien was shown on itv, any swear words were simply cut out leaving a jump in the film. Soldier Blue likewise. For many years the dream sequence in Oklahoma was chopped out by the BBC because they reckoned it bored people.
@@bdavebaldwin The overdubbing they did for some of those T.V edits have become legendary for how pathetic they were ; a lot of them were American network television cuts that BBC/ITV would import, rather than do their own cutting (though they did sometimes). For years, I associated NTSC transfers with editing... like the censorship just made them sound like that :-)
@@bdavebaldwin Hi David, GMTV? This is from 1983, a whole ten years before GMTV launched David. I think you meant TV-am
BBC TV XMAS.......how did TV AM get there....lol