One of the best things about the French Armor Museum in Saumur is that the French Cavalry Museum is right across the street. I believe it is an active military base so when we visited we presented ourselves to the sentry at the main gate and he had the officer of the day escort us into the museum. It nearly as fantastic as the Armor Museum.
I've been to Saumur. Really impressive collection! I wish I could have visited Bovington too, but I haven't had the chance to get to U.K.. Great video as always!
I am finding myself enjoying these virtual tours of the other tank museums. Firstly, it is a great way to get to know about those museums and then to get a bit of a feel for their collections. Given that I live in Melbourne, Australia, all of these museums are a very long way away from me and COVID 19 has only made getting to see those museums even harder. International travel for us is expected to be several years away from now, so virtual tours it is then.
Both british and soviets tried rearming Matilda II's. It must have been just painful to see a tank with armor comparable to basically KV-1 rapidly losing an edge even though armor was still good and speed was tolerable. Especially since it's much lighter then even KV-1S. Valentine however had proven to have that needed reserve for modernisation. It had armor comparable to T-34 and with 6 pounder or 75mm later on it basically was just smaller lighter and slower T-34-76/T-34-57. Meaning that both were still pretty good tanks even well into 1943. Not the best or most powerful, but good enough to do the job.
@ALSO-RAN ! True but I think it was faster than you would expect it to be for its size. Like its not gonna win a race but it might as well seem like a sports car to German King Tiger or JagdTiger.
Yeah, I mean, against a Crusader or a Sherman. But we're talking a heavily armoured prewar tank. The turn of speed, at least on the track, impressed me.
@@nonamesplease6288 yah i don't disagree with that. Its definitely fast enough to do its job and compared to the ww1 tanks the Matilda 2 was an impressive machine.
Another fault of the S35 is not just the lack of radio but the one man turret and the lack of vision slits and periscopes. Otherwise an excellent tank in terms of armour, armament and speed.
I thought it did have vision slits, but they were literally just vision slits, like sticking your eyeball up to the crack under a door but with extra eye-piercing danger. Nae windae glass.
I enacted a Battle of France 1940 minatures scenario. From the armor specs versus the armament penetration ability of the PzKw III and IV (in the rules), the Germans could not penetrate the Somua's armor: front or side, maybe even the rear. My only hope was either to wheel up a German AAA 88 or hit the S35's tracks.
@@mikegriffin8403 There's more to it than that. A hit need not be penetrating the frontal armour, it could disable optics and tracks, or the crew could just get scared because it's quite terrifying to get hit by a tank main gun.
@@heliogonzalezsanchez8227 Indeed, French crews were actually dwarves by today's height standards. You'd have to be to fit into tanks like the R35. On the plus side, it made them harder to hit!
This man, David Willey, in my humble opinion.. speaks english absolutely PERFECT, with some kind of "musicality" as i would like to hear from any youtube content producer. Especially "TIK" should ask for some speaking/pronouncing lessons. Thanks,
I've never considered the problems with moving a preserved AFV form one country to another. I would have assumed it was just logistics. Never thought of the poor customs bloke at 03:00 who see's a bunch of tanks rolling up to his border post. Must get some interesting looks.
Just paint the tip of the tank barrel orange. That way they know its a toy not a military vehicle. As for conservation dilema its easier with mechanical items. Anything can be fixed with enough money, skill, or time. If there is another original like tiger 131, then i believe the experierence is worth the potential to rebuild with modern recreation parts is worth the perceived slight to originality. The worse the vehicle condition the easier descision to rebuild is. Arguably a rebuilt tank can be closer to original running conditions than restored tank with with only antique components
No spare parts as far I am aware, sadly the Achilles heel of most old tanks and armoured cars the spares are few or non existent, I was at bovington before lock down, had a very interesting chat about lack of spares and the cost of running vehicles. Many of the tanks could be run but they don’t want to wear out hard to find components and in particular the tracks.
Enterprise206 there lies the problem, money, they sadly don’t have unlimited funds to repair, replace or remanufacture parts. Off on a tangent Certainly out in the military vehicle world I know of people who spend literally years looking for parts, especially for British light and medium vehicles. They were genuinely run into the ground until all the spares were used up! A friend who did national service then joined the territorial’s was still using WW2 trucks until they replaced by series 2 Land Rovers!
Plenty of money and willingness to remanufacture German parts, would be nice to see a Crusader and Cromwell running to represent the buggers that got blown up by the Tigers etc.
last time i passed Saumur, was 2 years ago, on my motorbike, at 42°C... i decided to not stop and keep driving to the coast... if i had stopped and spend some hours there, i am not sure i had made it alive... i am not kidding, i consumed 5 liters in 3hrs driving after Saumur..
Are you telling me that all you got out of this 18 minute video was a dirt spot on the camera lens. I liked the video personally. Good job Tank Museum.
Its just a pity that firms like eSim who make a decent tank / combined arms simulation aren't big enough to sponsor this sort of event, instead of this inferior product.
6:00 Crusader isnt cruiser III tank. Cruiser III/IV was the A13mk I/II respectively, A14 is Covenanter (the cruiser V) then A15 Crusader. So cruiser VI. Unless I misheard him?
*Hey Tank Museum! If you have to censor comments, why not stating it clearly in the description and explain the rules while you’re at it? Or do you enjoy the sneaky way best?*
12:25 - so it's just that Allied French and English leaders sucked hard; they had the equipment, but didn't have ____________? Perhaps a video is in order as to all the reasons why - naming names of poor commanders and poor leaders / government officials - as to why the Allies got bent over so badly if they had the best equipment.
@Oliver Viehland Yah same could be said for a Tiger 1 a Tiger 1 was pretty fast for a heavy tank I think it could go like 25mph or 45kmhs roughly. I mean that may seem slow but that is pretty good for a tank that weighed almost 60 tons back in the day. But sadly not the case for a Tiger 2 the crew be lucky to pull a top speed of 30kmh probably. As it still used the same engine as the tiger one which was good enough to propel a 57 ton tank . But strained under the wait of 68 ton tank basically having to power a tank that was about 10 tons heavier than its predecessor. So I could see the engine not wanting live anymore lol. Not that these specific tanks can compare to the earlier war models we have seen here. But it can be surprising that some tanks may seem as slow as an elderly Tortise on paper can have a pretty decent or acceptable speed in practice. Like light and medium tanks in WW2 were expected to be fast as light tanks were good for scouting and harassing some weaker flanks and medium tanks were the bulk of the amoured assaults to the had to move quick and cut throw enemy lines. Heavy Tanks typically were used as break through tanks to punch holes in the enemy strongest defenses allowing for the medium tanks to push on with the attack while supporting in a powerful anti tank capacity when needed to. So typically heavy tanks since they relied more on armour and fire power didn't have to overly fast. Just fast enough to from point a to b to be able support the main forces offensive or survive in some mobile defense capacity if having to defend. So for the hybrid troop support/ cruiser tank design of the valentine I guess the speed was fast enough for its roles.
@@yagdtigercommander Why are you going on and on and on and on and on about the Tiger 1, when the guy posted about the Valentine .. so many words saying so little .. stick to the topic instead of discussing a completely different tank .
Who upon earth hit the dislike button? What was there not to like? I feel sorry for you; your life must be positively miserable if you cannot find enlightenment in this series.
@@ottovonottsville476 😂 I'm just being annoying, also can't be bothered going through archive video/photos just for fat-spotting. It's a funny thought trying to picture those 2 escaping a burning tank. Cheers
It a pity that the first thing we hear on these productions now is a thank you to WOT, a Balarus owned gamming platform and financial behemoth. WOT has little real interest in historical accuracy and IMO is actively involved in furthering a bias and distorted view of history. However you feel on the subject , in cannot be a good thing when we start to trust a foreign owned gamming platform with the telling of any part of our collective national story , no matter the financial reward. War gaming should be kept as far away from the repository of our historical truths as possible, lest the tail start to wag the dog and history ends up being told to sell games.
"This is the first tank used by France in WW1" . Maybe the subtitles couldn't translate the French into the English NAME of the tank. And that's not the only one! He tells us about 'the most popular tank in France' but never NAMES the tank.....Fire this guy.
6:20 Sign says in German:"Fahr nicht so schnell Du Dösköpp!" 😅 ("Do not drive so fast you dumbhead!)
"...dozehead!"
@@11Kralle Maybe "dozepaddle" 😁
One of the best things about the French Armor Museum in Saumur is that the French Cavalry Museum is right across the street. I believe it is an active military base so when we visited we presented ourselves to the sentry at the main gate and he had the officer of the day escort us into the museum. It nearly as fantastic as the Armor Museum.
Amazing tip for those that don't know! I've been lucky to do the same.
Love the inclusion of the French museum! I'd seen the Chieftain videos about some of their vehicles and it was nice to see a bit more of the place.
I've been to Saumur. Really impressive collection!
I wish I could have visited Bovington too, but I haven't had the chance to get to U.K..
Great video as always!
I am finding myself enjoying these virtual tours of the other tank museums. Firstly, it is a great way to get to know about those museums and then to get a bit of a feel for their collections. Given that I live in Melbourne, Australia, all of these museums are a very long way away from me and COVID 19 has only made getting to see those museums even harder. International travel for us is expected to be several years away from now, so virtual tours it is then.
Both british and soviets tried rearming Matilda II's. It must have been just painful to see a tank with armor comparable to basically KV-1 rapidly losing an edge even though armor was still good and speed was tolerable. Especially since it's much lighter then even KV-1S.
Valentine however had proven to have that needed reserve for modernisation. It had armor comparable to T-34 and with 6 pounder or 75mm later on it basically was just smaller lighter and slower T-34-76/T-34-57. Meaning that both were still pretty good tanks even well into 1943. Not the best or most powerful, but good enough to do the job.
Love hearing about early war tanks.
Great video. I always read that Matilda 2 was really slow. This video shows it going a lot faster than I expected.
@ALSO-RAN ! True but I think it was faster than you would expect it to be for its size. Like its not gonna win a race but it might as well seem like a sports car to German King Tiger or JagdTiger.
@ALSO-RAN ! Yah
Yeah, I mean, against a Crusader or a Sherman. But we're talking a heavily armoured prewar tank. The turn of speed, at least on the track, impressed me.
@@nonamesplease6288 yah i don't disagree with that. Its definitely fast enough to do its job and compared to the ww1 tanks the Matilda 2 was an impressive machine.
A top 1500 meter runner is going about a mile a minute. The Matilda II, in that 1500 meters on a road, is going about the same.
Elegant the Matilda 1.
Pz l ausf f
Another fault of the S35 is not just the lack of radio but the one man turret and the lack of vision slits and periscopes. Otherwise an excellent tank in terms of armour, armament and speed.
I thought it did have vision slits, but they were literally just vision slits, like sticking your eyeball up to the crack under a door but with extra eye-piercing danger. Nae windae glass.
I enacted a Battle of France 1940 minatures scenario. From the armor specs versus the armament penetration ability of the PzKw III and IV (in the rules), the Germans could not penetrate the Somua's armor: front or side, maybe even the rear. My only hope was either to wheel up a German AAA 88 or hit the S35's tracks.
@@mikegriffin8403 There's more to it than that. A hit need not be penetrating the frontal armour, it could disable optics and tracks, or the crew could just get scared because it's quite terrifying to get hit by a tank main gun.
Shame France didn't had enough manpower to be put into their tanks. I've heard many times that was the reason french tanks had so little crew inside
@@heliogonzalezsanchez8227 Indeed, French crews were actually dwarves by today's height standards. You'd have to be to fit into tanks like the R35. On the plus side, it made them harder to hit!
These bits n pieces r just as good as the whole show was in one sitting yall. Way to go 🤙🙂
Brilliant video! What a treat! THANK YOU. :-)
Great Video! Excellent commentary!
I had no idea the French designers came over here and helped work on the Grant!
Yes, they willingly came over, nothing to do with the german machine guns
Right? Thanks France! Again!
The lee is my favorite tank which it’s basically the same tank with a a change or two
Grant? You mean the US Tank, Medium, M3 Series?
Jeffrey Root, Yes sir.
Well done Gentlemen another awesome video.
I think the char b1 is such a cool looking tank !!!
Good to see the Valentine DD tank. I've dived on a few of the submeerged wrecks of them off Swanage
we are coming down on the 12th August can't wait all booked
TY for the great content!
It's always good to see a video with Richard "Challenger" Cutland on it. Thanks!
Excellent show!
That Matilda II. 😘 Beautiful
One of my personal favorites to Run in WoT Blitz
Thing is still damn tough to fight against 🤭😅 careful how u show those side slats over the radiators. If u didn't know that yet.....
Really amazing to see all those tanks in running condition.
This man, David Willey, in my humble opinion.. speaks english absolutely PERFECT, with some kind of "musicality" as i would like to hear from any youtube content producer. Especially "TIK" should ask for some speaking/pronouncing lessons.
Thanks,
I love seeing that S35 neutral steer.
Excellent presentation!
It's impressive that they all look brand new
I've never considered the problems with moving a preserved AFV form one country to another. I would have assumed it was just logistics. Never thought of the poor customs bloke at 03:00 who see's a bunch of tanks rolling up to his border post. Must get some interesting looks.
i visited the museum on Thursday for the first time and got some models and an inflatable 17 pounder
Great to see Richard, hope he is keeping well.
I would've like to hear a little bit about the armored car driving behind the char B1. Seemed neat!
I think it is a staghound I’m not sure though
It's a Daimler Armoured Car
@@mateuszolesinski6169 Thanks!
the dude that disliked this video must feel good
He was hoping for some beer...
Char b's are cute tanks but matilda will always be my favorite early ww2 tank
4:15 ... Well the Valentine might not have thick armour but definetely some thicc commanders 😂
Very well done. Excellent enthusiasm by lieutenant-colonel Pierre Garnier.
love it keep it up
Realy Fantastic
Very good
Crusader tank with a Brodie helmet on the turret, very British
Visited Saumar Tank Museum in 2012
Great video.
Just paint the tip of the tank barrel orange. That way they know its a toy not a military vehicle.
As for conservation dilema its easier with mechanical items. Anything can be fixed with enough money, skill, or time. If there is another original like tiger 131, then i believe the experierence is worth the potential to rebuild with modern recreation parts is worth the perceived slight to originality. The worse the vehicle condition the easier descision to rebuild is. Arguably a rebuilt tank can be closer to original running conditions than restored tank with with only antique components
Awesome to see these old "war horses" on parade..:) Great Video..:)
TIL: guinea pigs were the common currency in pre-WW2 England.
4:23 - Is that Circon.
French presenter is great!
Always loved the S35 a criminally underrated tank an a great what could have been
What about BT-5, BT-7M, T-34?
What about them??
Wasn't BT series using the same Liberty engine? Or at least licensed copy.
Why do you no longer run the Crusader?
No spare parts as far I am aware, sadly the Achilles heel of most old tanks and armoured cars the spares are few or non existent, I was at bovington before lock down, had a very interesting chat about lack of spares and the cost of running vehicles. Many of the tanks could be run but they don’t want to wear out hard to find components and in particular the tracks.
You can have parts made but probably just as expensive to make if not more to a original part
Enterprise206 there lies the problem, money, they sadly don’t have unlimited funds to repair, replace or remanufacture parts. Off on a tangent Certainly out in the military vehicle world I know of people who spend literally years looking for parts, especially for British light and medium vehicles. They were genuinely run into the ground until all the spares were used up! A friend who did national service then joined the territorial’s was still using WW2 trucks until they replaced by series 2 Land Rovers!
Plenty of money and willingness to remanufacture German parts, would be nice to see a Crusader and Cromwell running to represent the buggers that got blown up by the Tigers etc.
4192362 yes it would be nice to see more British tanks in any show arena
last time i passed Saumur, was 2 years ago, on my motorbike, at 42°C... i decided to not stop and keep driving to the coast... if i had stopped and spend some hours there, i am not sure i had made it alive... i am not kidding, i consumed 5 liters in 3hrs driving after Saumur..
How much of a heresy would it be if someone had taken ruined B1bis and tried to make a mock up of B1ter from it?
Great video as always! I cannot wait, maybe one day, cooperation with Kubianka tank museum in Russia :)
Anyone know if the arena tanks are accessible for viewing all through the year?
WoT somewhat bought me here
It's missing the a10
Could you please tell us what battles the Matilda II won? Were they vs Italians in North Africa before the Germans arrived with medium tanks?
?????????????????????
Thought so.
I love how ugly and simple the Matilda 1 is. It's got no luxuries, no frills.
5:32 Black Country Flag...
10:04 "Welcome to F'ance" oh is he really going to speak English
"Nous sommes a Saumur" nevermind
THE BATTLE THAT WAS LOST BUT DID NOT LOSE THE WAR - MUCH LESS WIN THE WAR.
What's the tank at 11:05?
Do you mean the King Tiger..
It's "john d'arms" Bunkey.
Anyone else see that annoying dirt spot in the centre of the screen?
It looks like a CCD/CMOS sensor issue on one camera possibly.
Anyway, great video and much appreciated. Tank you to the museum
Are you telling me that all you got out of this 18 minute video was a dirt spot on the camera lens. I liked the video personally. Good job Tank Museum.
Its just a pity that firms like eSim who make a decent tank / combined arms simulation aren't big enough to sponsor this sort of event, instead of this inferior product.
6:00 Crusader isnt cruiser III tank. Cruiser III/IV was the A13mk I/II respectively, A14 is Covenanter (the cruiser V) then A15 Crusader. So cruiser VI. Unless I misheard him?
Note the chief in thE UK has to have a tie on and coat .......what ho old boy !
What is the tank at the back?
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The Matilda 1 looks like a hot rod..
05:45 Saddam Hussein is commanding that Crusader
*Hey Tank Museum! If you have to censor comments, why not stating it clearly in the description and explain the rules while you’re at it? Or do you enjoy the sneaky way best?*
12:25 - so it's just that Allied French and English leaders sucked hard; they had the equipment, but didn't have ____________? Perhaps a video is in order as to all the reasons why - naming names of poor commanders and poor leaders / government officials - as to why the Allies got bent over so badly if they had the best equipment.
..... Valentine was fast?
@Oliver Viehland Yah same could be said for a Tiger 1 a Tiger 1 was pretty fast for a heavy tank I think it could go like 25mph or 45kmhs roughly. I mean that may seem slow but that is pretty good for a tank that weighed almost 60 tons back in the day.
But sadly not the case for a Tiger 2 the crew be lucky to pull a top speed of 30kmh probably. As it still used the same engine as the tiger one which was good enough to propel a 57 ton tank . But strained under the wait of 68 ton tank basically having to power a tank that was about 10 tons heavier than its predecessor.
So I could see the engine not wanting live anymore lol. Not that these specific tanks can compare to the earlier war models we have seen here. But it can be surprising that some tanks may seem as slow as an elderly Tortise on paper can have a pretty decent or acceptable speed in practice.
Like light and medium tanks in WW2 were expected to be fast as light tanks were good for scouting and harassing some weaker flanks and medium tanks were the bulk of the amoured assaults to the had to move quick and cut throw enemy lines. Heavy Tanks typically were used as break through tanks to punch holes in the enemy strongest defenses allowing for the medium tanks to push on with the attack while supporting in a powerful anti tank capacity when needed to. So typically heavy tanks since they relied more on armour and fire power didn't have to overly fast. Just fast enough to from point a to b to be able support the main forces offensive or survive in some mobile defense capacity if having to defend.
So for the hybrid troop support/ cruiser tank design of the valentine I guess the speed was fast enough for its roles.
@@yagdtigercommander Why are you going on and on and on and on and on about the Tiger 1, when the guy posted about the Valentine .. so many words saying so little .. stick to the topic instead of discussing a completely different tank .
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Who upon earth hit the dislike button? What was there not to like? I feel sorry for you; your life must be positively miserable if you cannot find enlightenment in this series.
Were there any fat people in ww2?
Hermann Goring
@@kmc7355 ok. One.
@@ottovonottsville476 Winston Churchill
@@kmc7355 Never fought while fat. Neither did Goering for that matter.
@@ottovonottsville476 😂 I'm just being annoying, also can't be bothered going through archive video/photos just for fat-spotting.
It's a funny thought trying to picture those 2 escaping a burning tank. Cheers
"Germains" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It a pity that the first thing we hear on these productions now is a thank you to WOT, a Balarus owned gamming platform and financial behemoth. WOT has little real interest in historical accuracy and IMO is actively involved in furthering a bias and distorted view of history. However you feel on the subject , in cannot be a good thing when we start to trust a foreign owned gamming platform with the telling of any part of our collective national story , no matter the financial reward. War gaming should be kept as far away from the repository of our historical truths as possible, lest the tail start to wag the dog and history ends up being told to sell games.
Political fundraising adds.
"What's that in new money?" No one said ever - don't be a pedant
Not in the UK, but "what's that in new money" get s6400 hits on Google, so someone is, at least, posting about people saying that. Not sure why.
"This is the first tank used by France in WW1" . Maybe the subtitles couldn't translate the French into the English NAME of the tank. And that's not the only one! He tells us about 'the most popular tank in France' but never NAMES the tank.....Fire this guy.
Some was kept out in translation, he for example did mention the crusader aa's name but it wasn't in the english text
first ;)
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@@britishjunkbotintonk839 I've seen this kinda thing before. On my screen, you've replied 7 mins ago to a post that was put up 4 mins ago. huh ??
tubby town OH NO WHAT HAPPENING AAAAAAAH
Never count your chickens before they hatch 🤣
@@britishjunkbotintonk839 what I saw imgur.com/a/2tujY6A
Hate to go to the French museum -- no English.The german museums have alternative English