The Magtheridon + Cycle of Hatred is definitely a glitch. Cycle of Hatred has a stop point to check for minions destroyed. This stop also allows Magtheridon to check at the same time. From a programming stand point, they forgot to pause all other checks in the middle of Cycle of Hatred. If you have another minion that has a death check, you could probably confirm this. (Maybe Cult Master with enough health to survive Cycle of Hatred as an example)
One situational use I found for Turalyon was when I fought a "kinda-big" priest who build their big threat on the board with apotheosis spells and whatever. After striking, Turalyon was the only minion on the board so the priest couldn't build another dude. But even that can easily be countered or played around in other ways for both sides
Regarding 5:00, some spells have a death phase coded into them. I believe Poison Seeds was the first. Killing a board of deathrattles with it should proc the deathrattles before summoning the treants. Defile was another one allowing it to kill deathrattle minions. I think the thing with Cycle of Hatred is that it resolves minion deaths before summoning the 3/3s for potentially multiple reasons. It may be that it tries to count all the minions including those killed by deathrattles or it may be specifically coded to work against AOE deathrattles.
Why are you forcing me to choose between your stream or your YT? For those of you wondering, Regis is streaming right now and doing a giveaway so come over and watch!
You should watch him live and watch this on your second monitor XD or just click "water later" or keep it open in a second tab, etc etc. "WHY NOT BOTH?!"
My thought on the Magtheridon situation is that the spell has a period in it. It's 1 card with 2 separate effects, thus the game has a midway check. First the aoe hits, then it checks board and sees that Magtheridon goes off, then it checks after Mag to summon the colossus and *then* does the second effect of the spell. If the spell said deal 3 to all *then* summon, then I suspect that the ghosts would pop in before Mag goes off.
@@nathanaelwaters2509 I have two guesses, and both are bad on blizzards end. First guess is that because the Mag clear happens in the middle of the spell (by ai register standard), it counts him killing the legendary (name escapes me) as one of the kills for Hatred. Second Guess is that Mag awakening as a result of the spell triggered some kind of buggy summon flag for the card (aka, his dormant body "died" to allow his woke form to come out).
@@LostOnceLefthanded ive been playing big warr since last expansion and honestly rattlegore might be too strong,ive won a lot of games that he single handedly carried as oppenents had no way to deal with him
@@LostOnceLefthanded also, if the interaction of subduing a 9/9 rattlegore and killing it not summoning anything/ killing a 3/3 rattlegore summon a 2/2, would be more intuitive and clear. instead it summons a damn 8/8. i dont think its too strong, butwhat if i innerage my gore and then it is an 11/9, dies and summons an 8/8 ok.
Magtheridon working the way it did is like how Blizzard works. When damaging something that summons something else like for example Grim Patron it will freeze the summoned units as well.
They should mirror the Honor Student so the hammer's on the paladin side and the shield's on the warrior side. Like Commencement, it could be super thematic.
Gentleman J i think it is already good. Weapon on warrior side and shield on paladin side. There is also red glowing around hummer and light shining on shield and shoulder, so i think Blizzard already made it thematic enough.
magtheridon worked because when isnt the same as whenever, thats also the reason why counterspell works. When - immediatelly whenever - right after after - at last
Blizzard has such a weird stance on Keywords Like, Commencement is straight up Recruit then buff, why not just use the Recruit Keyword? Guardian Animals is also a Recruit card lol
And Dragonbane is straight up Inspire. Why it didn't simply had the description "Inspire. Deal 5 damage to a random enemy." is beyond me. I mean, we can mouse over the card and it says in a grey box on the side what the keyword does, so... Also, when they launched the Knights of the Frozen Throne set and the Lifesteal keyword, they changed the Maiden of Pain card (which is now called Queen of Pain) from Goblins vs Gnomes (that, by the way, rotated to Wild when KotFT came out) to be more consistent since it did exacly what Lifesteal is.
The card he played says "for each minion that dies" so he got the extra from magtheradon. For it to only get minions from the card itself is "For each minion that dies by this card"
Hey Regis, just found your channel after watching the “Soul Fragment” mechanic reveal. Been enjoying your content since, keep up the good work. I’ve been playing pure paladin since the start of the expansion and I think that right now it is a CRAZY good deck. This one seems like a cool pick too, but I have a couple of concerns. 1. Where’s Lord Barov? This guy is insane and will definitely get a nerf. Should be in every pal/war imo. 2. Nozdormu imo is a god awful card. I would never under any circumstance give my opponent 10 mana. In this deck he’s ok I guess cause of the duel and commitment but I would rather put Lord Barov instead. 3. First Day of school is a very good card. I had a game recently when I desperately needed a board clear on turn 5, so I played Barov and played First day of school, got two augmerchants (deal 1 damage to a minion) = profit!
Thank you both :) I’ll look into it. I’ve seen Battlestar, Spaceballs (though the special effects didn’t suck), old Star Trek, and old Dr. Who, so I think the effects won’t bother me :p
I think Turalyon is 100% reactive. Getting him off of stuff like “Summon a Minion from your *insert place here*” effect would definitely be a feel bad moment unless your trying to find them for a big minion
As a magic player seeing how hearthstone triggers are all over the place baffles me, the whole chargung djin with the potion of madness was beyond idiotic
I keep getting shitty legendaries and have a low amount of cards so every deck I face destroys me in constructed in the end basically :C Just found out about you and I enjoy the content
My 1st scholomance legendary. Guess what ? Turalyon the tenured . One good thing about it , I am playing libram paladin. Guess I can replace one crusader with it.
I got Turalyon as my free legend... I'm hoping I can throw together a reno pally that can make use of him. Otherwise he'll join the corner of bad legends that won't see play. XD
In this 30-minute video, we saw no instances of Turalyon being particularly powerful. Lots of good Duels and Commencements, but no real showing from Turalyon.
He is bad in any meta where small minion spam is expected. That is the meta he exists in, thus he is bad. Honestly the 8 mana 8/8 dragon with Deathrattle to summon a 7 drop is way better in that deck.
Yk this hurts a lot more especially cuz in my first pack I got him and I was so excited for like any other legendary but I saw this and just died inside sm.
tell your editor to not to cut all your dialogue together. It's hard to focus on what's happening when he cuts everything so closely together. It just sounds like you're non-stop talking. super distracting. it's like the longest run on sentence of all time...
2 things to make the card good. Taunt and make it so if it's attacked as well to make the minion a 3/3 EDIT: On second thought never mind on the second buff. Actually might make him worse considering smaller minions.
Bad
I'm glad I could help :)
It's the mayor.
He's not bad imo
Bad for a legendary yes, he feels like an Epic or Rare.
I reckon he seems okaaaay. But the value is clearly lacking.
I got him golden, I hope he gets buffed
The Magtheridon + Cycle of Hatred is definitely a glitch. Cycle of Hatred has a stop point to check for minions destroyed. This stop also allows Magtheridon to check at the same time. From a programming stand point, they forgot to pause all other checks in the middle of Cycle of Hatred. If you have another minion that has a death check, you could probably confirm this. (Maybe Cult Master with enough health to survive Cycle of Hatred as an example)
One situational use I found for Turalyon was when I fought a "kinda-big" priest who build their big threat on the board with apotheosis spells and whatever. After striking, Turalyon was the only minion on the board so the priest couldn't build another dude.
But even that can easily be countered or played around in other ways for both sides
Regarding 5:00, some spells have a death phase coded into them. I believe Poison Seeds was the first. Killing a board of deathrattles with it should proc the deathrattles before summoning the treants. Defile was another one allowing it to kill deathrattle minions. I think the thing with Cycle of Hatred is that it resolves minion deaths before summoning the 3/3s for potentially multiple reasons. It may be that it tries to count all the minions including those killed by deathrattles or it may be specifically coded to work against AOE deathrattles.
Why are you forcing me to choose between your stream or your YT? For those of you wondering, Regis is streaming right now and doing a giveaway so come over and watch!
You should watch him live and watch this on your second monitor XD or just click "water later" or keep it open in a second tab, etc etc. "WHY NOT BOTH?!"
Turalyon feels like a The Grand Tournament legendary
so true
No
E ya no
I'm not even mad about getting turalyon for free.I enjoy using him in pure libram pally
Any time a streamer or whoever is like “man what is he doing lol” i just wanna be like “his best :(“
He is doing what a rank 10 silver/gold aways do.
My thought on the Magtheridon situation is that the spell has a period in it. It's 1 card with 2 separate effects, thus the game has a midway check.
First the aoe hits, then it checks board and sees that Magtheridon goes off, then it checks after Mag to summon the colossus and *then* does the second effect of the spell. If the spell said deal 3 to all *then* summon, then I suspect that the ghosts would pop in before Mag goes off.
@@nathanaelwaters2509 I have two guesses, and both are bad on blizzards end.
First guess is that because the Mag clear happens in the middle of the spell (by ai register standard), it counts him killing the legendary (name escapes me) as one of the kills for Hatred.
Second Guess is that Mag awakening as a result of the spell triggered some kind of buggy summon flag for the card (aka, his dormant body "died" to allow his woke form to come out).
if they buff him so he silences when attacking he could be viable
@@LostOnceLefthanded ive been playing big warr since last expansion and honestly rattlegore might be too strong,ive won a lot of games that he single handedly carried as oppenents had no way to deal with him
@@LostOnceLefthanded also, if the interaction of subduing a 9/9 rattlegore and killing it not summoning anything/ killing a 3/3 rattlegore summon a 2/2, would be more intuitive and clear. instead it summons a damn 8/8. i dont think its too strong, butwhat if i innerage my gore and then it is an 11/9, dies and summons an 8/8 ok.
Magtheridon working the way it did is like how Blizzard works. When damaging something that summons something else like for example Grim Patron it will freeze the summoned units as well.
That first guys deck was pure entropy. When Regis used Duel I was hoping Deathwing would pop out just because.
Very neat deck! Kudos for trying the black sheep legendary of the expansion, too XD
Love the new "hey buddy watch this"
They should mirror the Honor Student so the hammer's on the paladin side and the shield's on the warrior side.
Like Commencement, it could be super thematic.
Gentleman J i think it is already good. Weapon on warrior side and shield on paladin side. There is also red glowing around hummer and light shining on shield and shoulder, so i think Blizzard already made it thematic enough.
magtheridon worked because when isnt the same as whenever, thats also the reason why counterspell works.
When - immediatelly
whenever - right after
after - at last
Yugioh "when" and "if" then
Nathanael Waters like i said because its immediat, and there is a dot in the text of cycle of hatred. 2 separate actions.
Blizzard has such a weird stance on Keywords
Like, Commencement is straight up Recruit then buff, why not just use the Recruit Keyword?
Guardian Animals is also a Recruit card lol
Yea, didn't the recruit mechanic existed before the *recruit* keyword? Kinda weird.
And Dragonbane is straight up Inspire. Why it didn't simply had the description "Inspire. Deal 5 damage to a random enemy." is beyond me. I mean, we can mouse over the card and it says in a grey box on the side what the keyword does, so...
Also, when they launched the Knights of the Frozen Throne set and the Lifesteal keyword, they changed the Maiden of Pain card (which is now called Queen of Pain) from Goblins vs Gnomes (that, by the way, rotated to Wild when KotFT came out) to be more consistent since it did exacly what Lifesteal is.
Because keywords are specific to expansions, while mechanics aren't. Perhaps to reduce confusion for new players? No idea.
I love that paly is now good again, I really like the class :D
Man both Druid and Paladin got some huge buffs in this expansion, can’t wait to see some counters to these decks.
This is one of the most hype decks from the expansion. Sadly, Terulyion is looking a bit useless, since you can just use librams
Your intros 😂 Mars Attacks!
The card he played says "for each minion that dies" so he got the extra from magtheradon. For it to only get minions from the card itself is "For each minion that dies by this card"
Great intro! 😄😄😂
Your videos are sooo good! Love the fact that you talk while playing and in the end you mostly win 😂
What an intro!!!! Turalyon attacks!!!
Hey Regis, just found your channel after watching the “Soul Fragment” mechanic reveal. Been enjoying your content since, keep up the good work. I’ve been playing pure paladin since the start of the expansion and I think that right now it is a CRAZY good deck. This one seems like a cool pick too, but I have a couple of concerns.
1. Where’s Lord Barov? This guy is insane and will definitely get a nerf. Should be in every pal/war imo.
2. Nozdormu imo is a god awful card. I would never under any circumstance give my opponent 10 mana. In this deck he’s ok I guess cause of the duel and commitment but I would rather put Lord Barov instead.
3. First Day of school is a very good card. I had a game recently when I desperately needed a board clear on turn 5, so I played Barov and played First day of school, got two augmerchants (deal 1 damage to a minion) = profit!
20:29 , is my reasoning for why HS should have a built in decktracker.
Does the Tyralyon effect work with Duel?
Yes
I think turqlyon is good against big minion control decks, since the meta gonna shift to it
Been saying this you’re right. Stats over value generation
Especially druid with those buff cards
They did Turalyon dirty he was an iconic WC2 character Sons of Lothar and took up Lothar's sword. I hate that Blizzard did this.
Perfect intro!
Mind sharing what movie it’s from? It looked like something I’d enjoy.
@@Bobal27 Its called Mars attacks, its a 1996 movie with CGI to argue such lol
@@Bobal27 He's right. It's from Mars Attack.
Thank you both :) I’ll look into it. I’ve seen Battlestar, Spaceballs (though the special effects didn’t suck), old Star Trek, and old Dr. Who, so I think the effects won’t bother me :p
That was the best intro I've ever seen
summoned "another" spirit because it did happen mid spell.
I am perrsonally have good success with burrowing scorpid in highlander decks.
I think Turalyon is 100% reactive. Getting him off of stuff like “Summon a Minion from your *insert place here*” effect would definitely be a feel bad moment unless your trying to find them for a big minion
That intro is perfect.
As a magic player seeing how hearthstone triggers are all over the place baffles me, the whole chargung djin with the potion of madness was beyond idiotic
31:31 Regis Poggers
I keep getting shitty legendaries and have a low amount of cards so every deck I face destroys me in constructed in the end basically :C Just found out about you and I enjoy the content
0:23 Skipperino Regiserino
My 1st scholomance legendary.
Guess what ?
Turalyon the tenured .
One good thing about it , I am playing libram paladin. Guess I can replace one crusader with it.
Turalyon isn't as trash as people think it as
He's a sleeper
Your Darkness Beckons Regis. The Void Is Pleased...
I got Turalyon as my free legend... I'm hoping I can throw together a reno pally that can make use of him. Otherwise he'll join the corner of bad legends that won't see play. XD
is that fan art in the intro or a hearthstone card? it's hard to tell these days hahaha
Turalyon isn't bad .. i found a control pure paladin deck that seems to be working good with him
Liked because of the editor.
watching as I play duel, 2 games in a row, they have hard clear for my Vargoth duel.
To be able to witness this 7 seconds after its out, what a pleasure.
When you watch these decks get played on stream and then see them on YT 4 hours later.
You sir are running a business. 👀
Tyralion could be a common card that nobody knows and uses
Makes me feel better about opening a golden Turalyon.
18:22 assassin paladin :)
I got him in a free pack, really not a big fan of him considering how paladin has many better options for dealing with big minions for much less.
Why don’t you run first day of school to support the early game a bit better?
In this 30-minute video, we saw no instances of Turalyon being particularly powerful. Lots of good Duels and Commencements, but no real showing from Turalyon.
Is turalyon bad or broken?
if its card text was Un'Goro belongs to the titans!
You should assert your dominance with blessing of authority
things like this makes me wish people remembered poison minions exist
5:23 this kinda of stuff is why I enjoy LOR so much, there's consistance
If you want consistency try MTG. MTG rules are immovably rigid. The only issue is most players don't understand a lot of them lol.
69° (nice) lukewarm lol
He is bad in any meta where small minion spam is expected. That is the meta he exists in, thus he is bad. Honestly the 8 mana 8/8 dragon with Deathrattle to summon a 7 drop is way better in that deck.
Yk this hurts a lot more especially cuz in my first pack I got him and I was so excited for like any other legendary but I saw this and just died inside sm.
I saw TB!
I just pulled him too 😂
I want what Regis smoke his intro are funny
Built this deck and am 1-7 pretty bad
tell your editor to not to cut all your dialogue together. It's hard to focus on what's happening when he cuts everything so closely together. It just sounds like you're non-stop talking. super distracting. it's like the longest run on sentence of all time...
HIT THE WIFF
i got a golden Turalyon ;~;
turalyon really needs to not buff minions he attacks. i see why he sucks now
I would say Turalyon is bad because if he attacks a 9/9 Rattlegore, the Rattlegore comes back as an 8/8 and not a 2/2 like you'd think it would.
This has nothing to do with duels lol
Just bad, Regis ;)
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2 things to make the card good. Taunt and make it so if it's attacked as well to make the minion a 3/3
EDIT: On second thought never mind on the second buff. Actually might make him worse considering smaller minions.