Thanks for expanding on the opening lead/Sky Bridge computer algorithm/4th highest question, Graeme. It just goes to show that playing knowingly against a computer has many fewer imponderables than playing against a human, and that someone playing against a computer, knowing the algorithms, has got a flying start over someone who's playing against the computer as if it was a human being. Thanks again. Simon
It reminded me of the early days of chess computing, when the computer couldn't differentiate between a mistake and a strategic sacrifice, and where the good players could always beat the computer by structuring the game to be one in which they were going to be given sacrifice opportunities. The computer was always going to conclude that they were mistakes, and to act accordingly. And so the good players developed two very different game strategies - one for when the opponent was a human, and the other for when it was a computer. @@Skybridgeclub
At 32:35 you spent nearly a minute trying to decide between bidding and passing. The one thing that put me off bridge a few years ago was being accused of 'cheating' by pausing and passing. It tells my partner that I almost have enough to bid, and if he or she has another chance to bid then they can use that information (which they shouldn't have). How would your real life opponents react to you passing after a minute?
Hi @chesshead, great question. It’s something that’s often discussed misunderstood by bridge players. We’re allowed to think! Just like chess players are. The problem is when partner takes advantage of the hesitation. If I have a tricky decision I think for as long as I want but I expect my partner to ignore the hesitation. If partner takes advantage then we’re in trouble ( and I’d be looking for a new partner ). Does that make sense?
@@Skybridgeclub yes, I believe that everyone I played with at the time would have ignored my hesitation and responded to my pass as though it was quick. They knew I was learning. Maybe our opponent only wanted to introduce me to this, before it happened to me in a more serious club or tournament.
One of my partners advised me to make a bid if I can't pause quickly, even if the bid takes us too high. Better to go off, than be accused of cheating. Can you think of any other bridge etiquette wrinkles, and have you made any videos on the subject?
@@chesshead it’s a good topic. I think it would be worth talking about it from time to time so I’ll make a point of bringing it up next time I take a long time to make a decision. Thanks for the suggestion.
Hi there! I sort of use the losing trick count. I think if it as more of a guideline or second check. I find gazing at the ceiling, waiting for inspiration, is as good as any method of hand evaluation. 😀
Thanks!
Thanks, Martha, much appreciated!
Thanks for expanding on the opening lead/Sky Bridge computer algorithm/4th highest question, Graeme. It just goes to show that playing knowingly against a computer has many fewer imponderables than playing against a human, and that someone playing against a computer, knowing the algorithms, has got a flying start over someone who's playing against the computer as if it was a human being. Thanks again.
Simon
Glad it makes sense now.
It reminded me of the early days of chess computing, when the computer couldn't differentiate between a mistake and a strategic sacrifice, and where the good players could always beat the computer by structuring the game to be one in which they were going to be given sacrifice opportunities. The computer was always going to conclude that they were mistakes, and to act accordingly. And so the good players developed two very different game strategies - one for when the opponent was a human, and the other for when it was a computer. @@Skybridgeclub
Grahame i did not have a notification.
I really enjoy your " classes".
Good stuff 😊
Happy to hear that. :)
At 32:35 you spent nearly a minute trying to decide between bidding and passing. The one thing that put me off bridge a few years ago was being accused of 'cheating' by pausing and passing. It tells my partner that I almost have enough to bid, and if he or she has another chance to bid then they can use that information (which they shouldn't have). How would your real life opponents react to you passing after a minute?
Hi @chesshead, great question. It’s something that’s often discussed misunderstood by bridge players. We’re allowed to think! Just like chess players are. The problem is when partner takes advantage of the hesitation. If I have a tricky decision I think for as long as I want but I expect my partner to ignore the hesitation. If partner takes advantage then we’re in trouble ( and I’d be looking for a new partner ). Does that make sense?
@@Skybridgeclub yes, I believe that everyone I played with at the time would have ignored my hesitation and responded to my pass as though it was quick. They knew I was learning. Maybe our opponent only wanted to introduce me to this, before it happened to me in a more serious club or tournament.
One of my partners advised me to make a bid if I can't pause quickly, even if the bid takes us too high. Better to go off, than be accused of cheating. Can you think of any other bridge etiquette wrinkles, and have you made any videos on the subject?
@@chesshead it’s a good topic. I think it would be worth talking about it from time to time so I’ll make a point of bringing it up next time I take a long time to make a decision. Thanks for the suggestion.
Didn’t know about this theory,thanks
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Hi Grahame, really enjoy these sessions and thanks for sharing. Do you use the losing trick count option?
Hi there! I sort of use the losing trick count. I think if it as more of a guideline or second check. I find gazing at the ceiling, waiting for inspiration, is as good as any method of hand evaluation. 😀
Missed the live cast…. Stayed in bed (uk)….. at the Galhampton bridge club we always stop at halfway for a cup of tea and cake, we are very social.
That's the way to play!
What is wrong with a club lead
Maybe nothing! Leads are hard and I often choose the wrong suit. 😀