Sincerest form of flattery @ 0:07 - LOL - Hey, don't for get, I said much the same thing - RV7 is "too easy" - only, I yelled it at the top of my lungs and it took 3 hours - LOL ;) P.S. I don't cover speaker damage!!! [also yelled]
We've grown up watching all the channels we poked fun at in this video. Glad you took it the right way. Looking forward to seeing your next upload! -Zach & Ben 📦✈
The RV-7 is an RV-7. And it's very good at being an RV-7 Not a 3D airplane. Not a Bush Plane. Not an EDF jet. Once dialed in, it's an incredible airplane. Pretty much unlimited vertical. Very aerobatic. Very predictable. Cons. The factory wheels make the airplane sound like a shopping cart full of aluminum cans. And the plastic landing gear mount is poorly glued in. The fix. Loose the wheel pants, put on 3' low bounce wheels and apply glue to the plastic landing gear mount. Done. Now you got a go to airplane that you'll always love.
I bet you only have this aircraft and your protecting it with all your heart and soul so you don’t get embarrassed, and the thing is sure you can fix its problems. But it never should have come out of the box with problems.
I appreciate the fact that you guys provided an honest opinion about a RC plane... most of the video's on UA-cam about RC planes seem to be either sponsored and/or looking to get sponsored so they give glorious reviews. Its great to get some opinions both positive and negative about a RC plane before I commit $299 to it. Keep us the good work for a great channel.
Yeah the saylors were very sensitive on that one.....yes it's alot of effort but technically if your passionate about the hobby and always flying and making your wife record all the time it's more of fun or a "hobby" hence the term hobbyist and the planes are free for them.....80 hrs a week for the videos he puts out¿ Its just him flying around. Sounds like a real task to do...I tear down houses and literally sign through sewage and mold and rebuild 50 hrs a week and buy my planes and im always tired but never am I like "damn I have to go fly rc" and he gets revenue for it lmao.......crybaby
This is actually a great plane. I've been enjoying flying it a lot. It's a scale version of the real RV-7 (which I've also worked on building), and it flys as such. Which means it has excellent all around flight handling characteristics and it performs "gentlemans aerobatics" very well. With larger tires (and wheel pants removed), it does even better on grass. I've been very impressed with how stable and smooth this flys.
We don't disagree! Hence our precision acro section of the video ( 3:03 ) and mention of it being a perfect airplane for the Sunday morning pilot who likes a scale looking airplane ( 6:40 ). We reviewed this bird from our own perspective and flying style but still were sure to be honest about where she shines and is meant to shine. -Zach
I liked the little RV-7, but then again my mission wasn't mainly 3D. I sold it before I got too many flights on it so no telling weather or not it would have had long term issues, but it was good for the 10 or so flights I put on it. No denying the flex RV-8 is WAY better suited for what you fellas like to do. 😁 Fun, funny vid. Also...saw Jon's vid...AWESOME of you to take him up. What an experience for him. Well done.
The RV-7 is great as described in the finale . Yes there are better planes for specific tasks , but for the person who can only afford a few planes it's a good all rounder , choice and value IMO . I Stopped watching Rcsailors a long time ago . To nerdy , no details and arrogant . Not surprised he'd say something like that policy TBH
Some channels seem to communicate that gaining understanding excludes having fun, and that the great goal of the hobby is being able to frolic around in a rat's nest of misunderstandings. Thank you for not subscribing to that attitude. Your quiet competence feels like a breath from heaven in a madhouse. Good luck with the challenge.
Conflict of interest? I understand the RV-7 can't be better than the RV-8 you're selling through your website but it deserves better than being labelled $299 of dissatisfaction. Btw, love your channel (and also like the RV-7).
I havent done reverse thrust yet. instead I: reversed the landing gear, ditched strut fairings and wheel pants , installed 3" foam wheels. The result is eliminated "tip-overs", saved a few ozs. (2 or 3) less weight, doubled prop clearance to 3". Plus it is now Grass field capable. Swapped out rudder servo for metal gear. Also you need to add a CFI to the right. :-) PS, seriously, you are a great pilot AND your video was lots of fun! Cute pup!
Great video. I fly my rv7 fpv with headtracking. It's a blast. I run a 3300 4s hanging over the back of the battery tray. I have also glued the wheels back in and stripped a few servos. Still a fun plane 😁👍
Thanks for the review and nice footage. I actually like the rv7 alot. I went from the apprentice to the rv7 and found it fast, maneuverable, and easy to land. The flaps work well and there is not much pitch change. You need a stabilized approach to grease the landings, but that's not a big deal.
Hi Guys - I just bought my 1.1m RV7 - first flight with a 3S 2200 battery installed all the way forward - perfect takeoff and flight with very little trim inputs - landing was a full flap power on - landed on grass very well with a 3 point roll out. BUT the second flight was an absolute disaster as the standard Sectrum plastic geared rudder servo failed completely at about 3m off the ground - smashed the prop, engine mount got lose, the fuse separated infront of the elevator/rudder servo tray plus plus plus. The lesson here is NEVER trust a plastic servo if it ever jumps a tooth or has any play in it at all. Love the videos guys. Downunder Aussie.
I really enjoyed your very factual review which was very much appreciated. I sm old am not interested in doing 3D so 3s battery power works fine for me. I am a full size pilot and am just cutting me teeth on rc fixed wing stuff. Your review really helpd me decide to buy - now as an ownedy advice to others is watch the plastic Spectrum servos ad they are very suspect.
I love this style of content, friendly fire on Brian Phillips, but it made me laugh either way. Keep up the great work, and remember it can take time for channels to grow.
I’m still loving mine.. great Sunday morning flier. Heaps of room for cameras..! I’ve had streamers, smoke, cameras and sparklers on mine..! Great fun.
I’m relatively new to RC flying. I’ve really appreciated AS3X and SAFE mode. I hear lots of experienced pilots talking about how they don’t like even having AS3X on. My understanding of AS3X is it’s not supposed to interfere with your control inputs. So what does it do that makes experienced pilots prefer flying without it?
I had a RV-7.Its a knife edge beast,fly inverted forever and good flight times but that's it.Sold it to a guy getting back into the hobby after many years and he's enjoying it.
The RC Saylors are not hobbyist sharing knowledge with the community. This is a job for them. The 'freebies' are taxable compensation. I bet the IRS would love to audit them.
Lol the reverse thrust! I did that years ago on a foam spitfire it was quickly thrown together but with a cheap 25a car esc and it’s first flight was it’s last to say the least!
I think the model comes with an oversized prop. Mine lasted just a few seconds until I broke it at take off. I replaced it with what I had at the field: a 9-inch, 3 blade propeller, and it flew well, didn´t seem to be underpowered.
+1 for the roast! An absolute fair review. For the people who were offended, Walmart carries diapers in all sizes - please make arrangements to get yours changed.
Ihave had 2, crashed the first one like a lawn dart. My fault. Bought another one because it fits easily in my semi truck for me to fly on my long layovers. I don’t fly 3d so I just put put around mostly. Great vid. I do think I will end up with the RV-8 night version .
Thanks for the honest review! I do love Horizon planes even if I had the small occasional problem out of the box with them, but it's refreshing to see someone point out the flaws of a plane, especially useful for someone who is at best an amateur at flying like myself. Honestly one of the best videos I've seen!
Yeeeessss you guys are the rc channel the YT community has been needing giving thorough and unbiased reviews unlike the other 2 mentioned. As for what you should do with the rv-7 try doing an inverted limbo challenge against you two bet that be fun to watch.
Sweet vid, loved the humours digs at the other UA-camrs.. Yo, please may you do a video on how to do that inverted flat spin? I have tried everything and can't replicate it. Thanks
I bought the RV-7 shortly after it was released. On paper, it looked like a plane I should love. I liked it just fine, but never fell in love with it. Then I saw a video over on Two Brothers Radio Control where they swapped the motor from a Maule M7. I decided to do the same to mine and it is definitely a lot more fun now. But with that said, I have to agree that it is a bit disappointing out of the box. There are certainly other planes out there that are a better value for price.
Unfortunately, we don't plan to purchase a Draco having flown a few ourselves already. It's way too heavy for what it's trying replicate due to the weight of all the added plastic scale features. If you want a nice fun replica of Draco to fly around as a scale plane, it's a great bird. If you're looking for a STOL machine that you can fly almost anywhere and even do some mild 3D with, the Timber fits that shoe well. They definitely don't fit the same missions.
Interesting!! I love the scale of the Draco but ended up buying the the TTEvolution this week at your many videos and recommendations. Love the channel, keep ‘em coming
I really appreciate the fresh perspective without any gatekeeping BS. I've been RC flying for years, but really only somewhat "seriously" for the last 2. It seems like so much of the commentary in this hobby is either "everything we test is awesome" or "every new product is beneath me". As for the RV-7, I adore mine, but I don't fly maneuvers anywhere near as advanced or aggressive as you. I fly much more scale with some mild aerobatics and the RV-7 gives me everything I need, from calm to challenging. I will say, though, that some low-bounce tires made a world of difference on pavement landings. The stock tires are awful.
@@Tharkunify I went with the Dubro low bounce 2-1/4" in front (DUB225T) and the Dubro 1" rubber tail wheel (DUB100TW). The front wheels required a very minor modification to the inside of wheel pants to create a little more clearance. You can find them at pretty much any hobby store, horizonhobby, or tower hobbies.
I have not seen a balanced RC review (+ and -) so this is new. Seems like most guys like everything which is confusing. Thanks for telling us straight. What do you actually prefer (Turbo Timber?). Looking for my next plane purchase.
I like this kind of review I like. The videos on the website hype the planes up to the point that it's hard to find out what I need to know. "It's the most awesome..!" "It flies like it's on rails!" ad nauseum.
@@TailHeavyProductions i was a bit shocked seeing the issues you had, mine takes off and lands great on grass and blacktop. I dont quite beat it as bad as you have and putting it in reverse in the air thats more of a risk i would take. Good job overall
Had to chuckle at your servo problems with this one, I've actually had more problems with Horizon plane servos than Dynam, which although not great either have at least been consistent. Horizon just seems to go with the lowest bidder for their stuff, just never know if it is going to be great or junk from product to product.
So good. Like a breath of fresh air. You all the same shit nothing specific from those other guys... I always look for your feedback before a purchase. I almost bought this plane. Thanks for the heads up.
OK maybe I'm stupid, but why the shot at RC Saylors at 1:38? Context? Maybe I'm missing something, as the RC Saylors seem to be pretty honest. Please correct me if I'm wrong or misinterpreted this video.
been here since 1k subs, I still don't believe that you have only 6.69k, you guys are amazing and should keep up the work! I love how honest you are in your reviews and give tips on how to make your planes better unlike other channels which just say "this plane is trash" and neglect it for 8 years, you guys are the reason my Turbo Timber Evolution got much more fun to fly.
I never liked anything about this plane, and didnt get why people raved about it. I put it down to a lack of civilian models at that point in time. Now Eflite has released several much nicer offerings. I'd much rather have a Commander, or Cirrus.
The combination of size (the short 1.1m wing makes it very transportable without disassembly), battery pack compatibility and general flight performance make the RV-7 a win for me. I’ve dragged mine all over, and it always gets positive comments at any fun fly I show up with it at. It’s a smooth flyer, does classic air show and pattern routines well and is just fun to fly. The Commander and Cirrus both predate it, being re-releases. I’d not take the Cirrus over the RV-7 personally, as I don’t like the nose gear and the long skinny wings complicate transport. The Commander would be my choice if I was looking for something a bit bigger, but it’s just big enough to be annoying to transport wing-on and so it doesn’t fill the same easy to transport role. However the Commander is big enough that I’d probably pick a Sig 4-Star instead, they turn more heads and fly as good or better. All that said, tastes are personal and you like what you like. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with disliking the RV-7, it’s not for everybody. But it’s a staple in my hangar for sure.
I know I am talking about an old video but in the video that you talked about the Turbo Timber Evolution, is there any difference between the 13x4 prop you used and the one you linked? Just asking because your looked different.
I don't have this model yet but it probably won't be long. I personally haven't had any problematic planes from eflite, only 1 from freewing which they sent the servos out quickly. I guess as with all mechanical and electronics there will be some lemons and some duds but it looks like most of the problems with that plane were simple fixes. Nice review, no talking down about the company and no sales pitch type antics just real and to the point showing upsides and downsides while still having fun with it.
I've been flying the RV-7 since last spring. It is a beautiful plane and on 4S is a rocket. I have absolutely nothing bad to say about this bird. Flown the piss out of it all season long with absolutely no equipment failures, etc. I fly only off grass and on our decently cut strip I have no problem with taxi, takeoff, or landing. I don't use SAFE at all.
I'm building a Van's RV-7 right now (not a RC version but a real one) and the Lycoming engine I'll be putting in will not have a reversible prop or do a rolling circle
@@TailHeavyProductions there is a video where the tail wheel is riveted to the tail and started to delaminate because he didn't use hardened rivets and the way the tail is he almost lost the whole tail. I'll try and find it because I'm also a build coach for the EAA for the Glasair II (Sportsman) & the III kits and this video kinda scared me for the way Swift has it
What it do gentlemen. Hope to be able to fly wit y’all if you ever back in WA. The roast was super funny. I had to pause and read it. I’d love a couple viper 90’s I might Juss talk some crap to em and try myself 😂
I accidentally activated reverse thrust on my Eflite Ultimate. I was fortunate that the landing was only a little hard some hanger rash a bent landing gear I was lucky
I made the bad decision of buying this as my second plane. 60% of my first several flights ended in some sort of damage, usually a broken propellor. My transmitter couldn;t activate the flaps unless I held down the bind button whenever I wanted the flaps UP, so I disconnected them. I got a new transmitter with a switch for the flaps, but that switch doesn't do anything. If I move the flaps plug into the only other available slot in the receiver, the flaps are controlled by the flight mode instead of the bind button. Want flaps down? Switch out of safe mode. Wanna do a barrel roll? Put flaps down. Also I never knew this thing had reverse thrust, how is it activated?? Let me guess, I probably need ANOTHER new switch that probably still wont do anything.
There is just something about this chanell that I absolutely love. You really get the true purpose of rc flying while watching your videos... love that...keep going
The build quality issues are concerning though I wonder how much of this is wanting it to be something it's not? I haven't flown it but have thought about getting it since if I get a pilots license someday an RV would be my dream plane, but then again, this does sit in a odd sort of midpoint between a bunch of their offerings in size and performance, though I do like the look over the commander.
The servo issues are endemic to the Horizon BnF’s. I’m batting about 50% with Horizon on servo failures per plane purchased (ie half the BnF’s I’ve bought have had a servo pack it in). Everybody who uses cheap servos has this issue (Flex gets a lot of flak for it for example) The elevator is probably a bit of a twist in the moulding, probably the part cooled too fast. Mine is not like that but no guarantees either way. The prop coming loose is cheap hardware, a bit hard to stomach when the plane simply isn’t cheap to buy. The gear was the landing combined with scale gear, this isn’t a bush/STOL bird and while the gear isn’t flimsy, it’s also not super rugged and keeping it scale has a downstream impact (vs the semi-scale gear used on the Flex RV-8, which is more rugged but helps contribute to the sport scale looks of the Flex vs the more accurate scale looks of the E-Flite)
@@adam_mawz_maas Weird. I probably don't fly as much as you but I've not had a single servo fail on my planes. I'm probably at about 150 flights combined on my Carbon Cub and TTE, with about 50 on an F15, Ultrix, and a couple UMXs. Some of the servos make a lot of noise though. The linkages in steerable nosewheels however, not so great...
@@joegroves2517 I’ve found the failures typically happen quickly, and usually its the rudder for some reason. Had that fail out of the box on my Valiant 1.3m and after maybe 25 flights on my Ultimate 3D. I don’t actually buy a lot of BnF’s either, maybe I’m just unlucky.
@@joegroves2517 Same here actually, I have several bnf's ,and I havent had a servo fail (except in accidents). I have the Commander mpd that I see a lot of people say have bad servos, but I have flown the heck out of mine for several years, and they are all still working fine.
U do know u can just switch of as3x u don't need to swap the RX out. Thought I recognised your voice! Seen you in old vids when I first got into the hobby. New sub. 👍🏾
We love our RV-8. The reason we love working with Flex is Quique said we can say whatever we want about their planes in our reviews as long as our feedback is honest. It’s very refreshing to find someone in the hobby industry who stands behind their products and isn’t afraid to let someone speak freely about them. We want nothing more than to maintain our integrity and be able to be direct and honest with the rc consumer base. If a manufacturer won’t allow that, we won’t work with them. 👍
From all models I fly, the RV-7 is the most unforgiving. You have to pilot this plane all the time. But again, decades ago I learned that scale airplanes don't fly as docile as normal "traditional" R/C models. But overall a sweet bird.
Good one Zach and Ben! People should really listen to your narration. There is wisdom between the humor. The title is a bit “click bait” (I get it, you give HH props and honest criticism) BUT your narration has many many gold nuggets of great advice. My favorite- “…stall was fairly docile… AS WITH MANY RC AIRCRAFT JUST LET GO! And a caution for pulling too hard and inducing a secondary stall. Gold advice for most aero modelers of all skill levels. Always entertaining, promotional and educational too! Thanks for the fun approach.
In fairness to HH and you freely admit it at the start, you did not use AS3X which is a design feature of these E Flite models. Yes, it can mask some not so great design characteristics and they have gone over the top with that on others (Draco!) but it is there. Maybe a compare/ contrast with an AS3x/ SAFE select stock (BNF Basic) AR631? Just sayin.
Thanks, Daren! Regarding AS3X - nope. They sell this plane without AS3X as well (plug and play). That's the version we purchased and should have made that clearer in the video. In fact, most all of their models come as a plug and play option. If it was an exclusive design feature, they wouldn't offer it without it. 👍 -Zach
@@TailHeavyProductions Not suggesting “exclusive design feature”. Absolutely they offer as PNP as with many. I thought you guys made a very fair assessment with the version you purchased. In some of the E Flite designs AS3X and SAFE (I am a strong advocate for the technology) has been over used (IMHO) as replacement for encouraging better setup since it will compensate. Just conversation. All good.
Sincerest form of flattery @ 0:07 - LOL - Hey, don't for get, I said much the same thing - RV7 is "too easy" - only, I yelled it at the top of my lungs and it took 3 hours - LOL ;)
P.S. I don't cover speaker damage!!! [also yelled]
We've grown up watching all the channels we poked fun at in this video. Glad you took it the right way. Looking forward to seeing your next upload! -Zach & Ben 📦✈
@@TailHeavyProductions pull a monster power timber!
Way to be a great sport Brian! Our hobby needs more of this and I love your channel.
The RV-7 is an RV-7. And it's very good at being an RV-7 Not a 3D airplane. Not a Bush Plane. Not an EDF jet. Once dialed in, it's an incredible airplane. Pretty much unlimited vertical. Very aerobatic. Very predictable. Cons. The factory wheels make the airplane sound like a shopping cart full of aluminum cans. And the plastic landing gear mount is poorly glued in. The fix. Loose the wheel pants, put on 3' low bounce wheels and apply glue to the plastic landing gear mount. Done. Now you got a go to airplane that you'll always love.
I bet you only have this aircraft and your protecting it with all your heart and soul so you don’t get embarrassed, and the thing is sure you can fix its problems. But it never should have come out of the box with problems.
I appreciate the fact that you guys provided an honest opinion about a RC plane... most of the video's on UA-cam about RC planes seem to be either sponsored and/or looking to get sponsored so they give glorious reviews. Its great to get some opinions both positive and negative about a RC plane before I commit $299 to it. Keep us the good work for a great channel.
Yeah the saylors were very sensitive on that one.....yes it's alot of effort but technically if your passionate about the hobby and always flying and making your wife record all the time it's more of fun or a "hobby" hence the term hobbyist and the planes are free for them.....80 hrs a week for the videos he puts out¿ Its just him flying around. Sounds like a real task to do...I tear down houses and literally sign through sewage and mold and rebuild 50 hrs a week and buy my planes and im always tired but never am I like "damn I have to go fly rc" and he gets revenue for it lmao.......crybaby
This is a job for them. The 'freebies' are taxable compensation. I bet the IRS would love to audit them.
Roasts were amazing great videos as always.
This is actually a great plane. I've been enjoying flying it a lot. It's a scale version of the real RV-7 (which I've also worked on building), and it flys as such. Which means it has excellent all around flight handling characteristics and it performs "gentlemans aerobatics" very well. With larger tires (and wheel pants removed), it does even better on grass. I've been very impressed with how stable and smooth this flys.
We don't disagree! Hence our precision acro section of the video ( 3:03 ) and mention of it being a perfect airplane for the Sunday morning pilot who likes a scale looking airplane ( 6:40 ). We reviewed this bird from our own perspective and flying style but still were sure to be honest about where she shines and is meant to shine. -Zach
again i have stayed up to 12 am aus time to watch this come out and have no regrets
Brian Phillips when he wakes up: UOOOOOOOOOHHHHH I JUST CRASHED
I liked the little RV-7, but then again my mission wasn't mainly 3D. I sold it before I got too many flights on it so no telling weather or not it would have had long term issues, but it was good for the 10 or so flights I put on it. No denying the flex RV-8 is WAY better suited for what you fellas like to do. 😁 Fun, funny vid. Also...saw Jon's vid...AWESOME of you to take him up. What an experience for him. Well done.
Man's was quick with the Spirit jab XD
The RV-7 is great as described in the finale . Yes there are better planes for specific tasks , but for the person who can only afford a few planes it's a good all rounder , choice and value IMO .
I Stopped watching Rcsailors a long time ago . To nerdy , no details and arrogant . Not surprised he'd say something like that policy TBH
Some channels seem to communicate that gaining understanding excludes having fun, and that the great goal of the hobby is being able to frolic around in a rat's nest of misunderstandings. Thank you for not subscribing to that attitude. Your quiet competence feels like a breath from heaven in a madhouse. Good luck with the challenge.
Best rc airplane channel !
Keeps me entertained, thanks. 😎
Conflict of interest? I understand the RV-7 can't be better than the RV-8 you're selling through your website but it deserves better than being labelled $299 of dissatisfaction. Btw, love your channel (and also like the RV-7).
I havent done reverse thrust yet. instead I: reversed the landing gear, ditched strut fairings and wheel pants , installed 3" foam wheels. The result is eliminated "tip-overs", saved a few ozs. (2 or 3) less weight, doubled prop clearance to 3". Plus it is now Grass field capable. Swapped out rudder servo for metal gear. Also you need to add a CFI to the right. :-) PS, seriously, you are a great pilot AND your video was lots of fun! Cute pup!
Great video. I fly my rv7 fpv with headtracking. It's a blast. I run a 3300 4s hanging over the back of the battery tray. I have also glued the wheels back in and stripped a few servos. Still a fun plane 😁👍
Thanks for the review and nice footage. I actually like the rv7 alot. I went from the apprentice to the rv7 and found it fast, maneuverable, and easy to land. The flaps work well and there is not much pitch change. You need a stabilized approach to grease the landings, but that's not a big deal.
Hi Guys - I just bought my 1.1m RV7 - first flight with a 3S 2200 battery installed all the way forward - perfect takeoff and flight with very little trim inputs - landing was a full flap power on - landed on grass very well with a 3 point roll out. BUT the second flight was an absolute disaster as the standard Sectrum plastic geared rudder servo failed completely at about 3m off the ground - smashed the prop, engine mount got lose, the fuse separated infront of the elevator/rudder servo tray plus plus plus.
The lesson here is NEVER trust a plastic servo if it ever jumps a tooth or has any play in it at all. Love the videos guys. Downunder Aussie.
Wait...you mean...you didn't think our review was unfair or overly critical?! 😂 Thanks for the comment, and sorry about your servo!
No your review was good I just provided my comment on my rudder servo failure to help any others!
I really enjoyed your very factual review which was very much appreciated. I sm old am not interested in doing 3D so 3s battery power works fine for me.
I am a full size pilot and am just cutting me teeth on rc fixed wing stuff.
Your review really helpd me decide to buy - now as an ownedy advice to others is watch the plastic Spectrum servos ad they are very suspect.
I love this style of content, friendly fire on Brian Phillips, but it made me laugh either way. Keep up the great work, and remember it can take time for channels to grow.
made Brian laugh too!
I have this plane. Yes it's not easy to prop hang but it's an amazing flying plane, it's really stable and makes aerobatics a lot of fun
I bought that and it flies greats does inverted flying like a champ
Lol at that RC Sailors comment.
I’m still loving mine.. great Sunday morning flier. Heaps of room for cameras..! I’ve had streamers, smoke, cameras and sparklers on mine..! Great fun.
I’m relatively new to RC flying. I’ve really appreciated AS3X and SAFE mode. I hear lots of experienced pilots talking about how they don’t like even having AS3X on. My understanding of AS3X is it’s not supposed to interfere with your control inputs. So what does it do that makes experienced pilots prefer flying without it?
I had a RV-7.Its a knife edge beast,fly inverted forever and good flight times but that's it.Sold it to a guy getting back into the hobby after many years and he's enjoying it.
Zach roasting the big rc youtubers with no stop in this one xD
The RC Saylors are not hobbyist sharing knowledge with the community. This is a job for them. The 'freebies' are taxable compensation. I bet the IRS would love to audit them.
I took my wheel pants off and put 4 inch wheels on it and it helped a lot for taking off and landing!
Lol the reverse thrust! I did that years ago on a foam spitfire it was quickly thrown together but with a cheap 25a car esc and it’s first flight was it’s last to say the least!
I think the model comes with an oversized prop. Mine lasted just a few seconds until I broke it at take off. I replaced it with what I had at the field: a 9-inch, 3 blade propeller, and it flew well, didn´t seem to be underpowered.
Fantastic content guys, love the honest and comedy :-)
lmao I've seen some of those rc saylors comments. They like to "challenge" people
+1 for the roast! An absolute fair review. For the people who were offended, Walmart carries diapers in all sizes - please make arrangements to get yours changed.
Great video, you guys are the new age of RC content on youtube
Filtered "YOU TUBE ITS BRIAN PHILLIPS!!" got me laughing so hard.
I made it to 1:39, and instantly knew I needed to sub to your channel. Nice Work!
What a refreshing funny review of an EF bird, thanks. Subscribed, looking forwards to more.
Ihave had 2, crashed the first one like a lawn dart. My fault. Bought another one because it fits easily in my semi truck for me to fly on my long layovers. I don’t fly 3d so I just put put around mostly. Great vid. I do think I will end up with the RV-8 night version .
Thanks, I was about to ask for this one for christmas 😂
Thanks for the honest review! I do love Horizon planes even if I had the small occasional problem out of the box with them, but it's refreshing to see someone point out the flaws of a plane, especially useful for someone who is at best an amateur at flying like myself.
Honestly one of the best videos I've seen!
First time seeing your channel. Quality videos with humor and some sarcasm, I’m in! Subscribed.
Awesome, thank you!
Yeeeessss you guys are the rc channel the YT community has been needing giving thorough and unbiased reviews unlike the other 2 mentioned. As for what you should do with the rv-7 try doing an inverted limbo challenge against you two bet that be fun to watch.
Sweet vid, loved the humours digs at the other UA-camrs..
Yo, please may you do a video on how to do that inverted flat spin? I have tried everything and can't replicate it.
Thanks
Yet I love how it changes colour from blue to red and back again.
0:18 perfect definition hahaha
These are the kind of reviews we need. Under 10 Minutes, the good and the bad. Hopefully the channel gets traction and you get models sent to you!
I bought the RV-7 shortly after it was released. On paper, it looked like a plane I should love. I liked it just fine, but never fell in love with it. Then I saw a video over on Two Brothers Radio Control where they swapped the motor from a Maule M7. I decided to do the same to mine and it is definitely a lot more fun now. But with that said, I have to agree that it is a bit disappointing out of the box. There are certainly other planes out there that are a better value for price.
Funny and great reviews...nicely edited ....love the reference to stale RC flyers🤣🤣🤣
I learned that reverse thrust mid flight is a thing, I hope I can figure out why!
Great landing gear, can take a hard bounce and not bend
Can you guys review the Draco and compare it to the the turbo timber? Does one substitute the other?
Unfortunately, we don't plan to purchase a Draco having flown a few ourselves already. It's way too heavy for what it's trying replicate due to the weight of all the added plastic scale features. If you want a nice fun replica of Draco to fly around as a scale plane, it's a great bird. If you're looking for a STOL machine that you can fly almost anywhere and even do some mild 3D with, the Timber fits that shoe well. They definitely don't fit the same missions.
Interesting!! I love the scale of the Draco but ended up buying the the TTEvolution this week at your many videos and recommendations.
Love the channel, keep ‘em coming
This thing can do way more then I thought it could!!! 💪🏼🔥
Yo my RV7 was terrible. 2 flights and prop came apart and tore the motor halfway out before I hit the throttle cut.
I really appreciate the fresh perspective without any gatekeeping BS. I've been RC flying for years, but really only somewhat "seriously" for the last 2. It seems like so much of the commentary in this hobby is either "everything we test is awesome" or "every new product is beneath me". As for the RV-7, I adore mine, but I don't fly maneuvers anywhere near as advanced or aggressive as you. I fly much more scale with some mild aerobatics and the RV-7 gives me everything I need, from calm to challenging. I will say, though, that some low-bounce tires made a world of difference on pavement landings. The stock tires are awful.
Where can I order better rv7 tires? That would be a nice mod.
@@Tharkunify I went with the Dubro low bounce 2-1/4" in front (DUB225T) and the Dubro 1" rubber tail wheel (DUB100TW). The front wheels required a very minor modification to the inside of wheel pants to create a little more clearance. You can find them at pretty much any hobby store, horizonhobby, or tower hobbies.
Great honest review where you really put her through the wringer. 👍
I have not seen a balanced RC review (+ and -) so this is new. Seems like most guys like everything which is confusing. Thanks for telling us straight. What do you actually prefer (Turbo Timber?). Looking for my next plane purchase.
Thanks! The Timber is a completely different airplane than this mission wise. What are you looking for in an airplane?
i loved this Video, Honest Review with some added Jokes, Awesome!
Fun Fact: Karen in Portuguese is pronounced "Nate"
AWWWW DANG. YOU SAID IT. LMAO 👊 🤣
I like this kind of review I like. The videos on the website hype the planes up to the point that it's hard to find out what I need to know. "It's the most awesome..!" "It flies like it's on rails!" ad nauseum.
Gotta love these videos.
Never had any issues with mine.
Wanna trade? - Ben
@@TailHeavyProductions i was a bit shocked seeing the issues you had, mine takes off and lands great on grass and blacktop. I dont quite beat it as bad as you have and putting it in reverse in the air thats more of a risk i would take. Good job overall
i subbed just cuz you roasted those guys. first time watching your vids. will dive in deeper. lets get those 2 Vipers
Did you see that part fall off at about 1:19 what was that?
Spinner
Had to chuckle at your servo problems with this one, I've actually had more problems with Horizon plane servos than Dynam, which although not great either have at least been consistent. Horizon just seems to go with the lowest bidder for their stuff, just never know if it is going to be great or junk from product to product.
Great information!
So good. Like a breath of fresh air. You all the same shit nothing specific from those other guys... I always look for your feedback before a purchase. I almost bought this plane. Thanks for the heads up.
OK maybe I'm stupid, but why the shot at RC Saylors at 1:38? Context? Maybe I'm missing something, as the RC Saylors seem to be pretty honest. Please correct me if I'm wrong or misinterpreted this video.
been here since 1k subs, I still don't believe that you have only 6.69k, you guys are amazing and should keep up the work! I love how honest you are in your reviews and give tips on how to make your planes better unlike other channels which just say "this plane is trash" and neglect it for 8 years, you guys are the reason my Turbo Timber Evolution got much more fun to fly.
Thank you! Means a lot. Glad to hear you're having a blast with the Timber!
Brian Phillips is a great sport. RC Sailor's got mad at me, till logic made them delete their comments! 😂
I think the landing gear is ugly
I think that you rv8 with bushwheels looks waaaaaaaay better
I never liked anything about this plane, and didnt get why people raved about it. I put it down to a lack of civilian models at that point in time. Now Eflite has released several much nicer offerings. I'd much rather have a Commander, or Cirrus.
The combination of size (the short 1.1m wing makes it very transportable without disassembly), battery pack compatibility and general flight performance make the RV-7 a win for me.
I’ve dragged mine all over, and it always gets positive comments at any fun fly I show up with it at. It’s a smooth flyer, does classic air show and pattern routines well and is just fun to fly.
The Commander and Cirrus both predate it, being re-releases. I’d not take the Cirrus over the RV-7 personally, as I don’t like the nose gear and the long skinny wings complicate transport. The Commander would be my choice if I was looking for something a bit bigger, but it’s just big enough to be annoying to transport wing-on and so it doesn’t fill the same easy to transport role. However the Commander is big enough that I’d probably pick a Sig 4-Star instead, they turn more heads and fly as good or better.
All that said, tastes are personal and you like what you like. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with disliking the RV-7, it’s not for everybody. But it’s a staple in my hangar for sure.
I know I am talking about an old video but in the video that you talked about the Turbo Timber Evolution, is there any difference between the 13x4 prop you used and the one you linked? Just asking because your looked different.
One is black and one is grey. That's it. 👍
Just found your channel and I love it.
The Rc saylors roast made me lol 😂
I just found your channel. Enjoying the content. Another level for RC. Reminds me of Fireship style. Subscribed
Thank you!
I don't have this model yet but it probably won't be long. I personally haven't had any problematic planes from eflite, only 1 from freewing which they sent the servos out quickly. I guess as with all mechanical and electronics there will be some lemons and some duds but it looks like most of the problems with that plane were simple fixes. Nice review, no talking down about the company and no sales pitch type antics just real and to the point showing upsides and downsides while still having fun with it.
I've been flying the RV-7 since last spring. It is a beautiful plane and on 4S is a rocket. I have absolutely nothing bad to say about this bird. Flown the piss out of it all season long with absolutely no equipment failures, etc. I fly only off grass and on our decently cut strip I have no problem with taxi, takeoff, or landing. I don't use SAFE at all.
Wanna trade?
I'm building a Van's RV-7 right now (not a RC version but a real one) and the Lycoming engine I'll be putting in will not have a reversible prop or do a rolling circle
Nice! Love flying full scale RVs…although I think the Globe Swift still beats it for me 😁 -Zach
@@TailHeavyProductions there is a video where the tail wheel is riveted to the tail and started to delaminate because he didn't use hardened rivets and the way the tail is he almost lost the whole tail. I'll try and find it because I'm also a build coach for the EAA for the Glasair II (Sportsman) & the III kits and this video kinda scared me for the way Swift has it
@@av8tore71 I prefer not to paint everyone with the same brush. That's what a good preflight and if needed, IA is for. 🙂
What it do gentlemen. Hope to be able to fly wit y’all if you ever back in WA.
The roast was super funny. I had to pause and read it. I’d love a couple viper 90’s I might Juss talk some crap to em and try myself 😂
I accidentally activated reverse thrust on my Eflite Ultimate. I was fortunate that the landing was only a little hard some hanger rash a bent landing gear I was lucky
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Brian Phillips Filter had me laughing hard.
I made the bad decision of buying this as my second plane. 60% of my first several flights ended in some sort of damage, usually a broken propellor. My transmitter couldn;t activate the flaps unless I held down the bind button whenever I wanted the flaps UP, so I disconnected them. I got a new transmitter with a switch for the flaps, but that switch doesn't do anything. If I move the flaps plug into the only other available slot in the receiver, the flaps are controlled by the flight mode instead of the bind button. Want flaps down? Switch out of safe mode. Wanna do a barrel roll? Put flaps down.
Also I never knew this thing had reverse thrust, how is it activated?? Let me guess, I probably need ANOTHER new switch that probably still wont do anything.
How often do you guys fly at your field
Awesome video bros
There is just something about this chanell that I absolutely love. You really get the true purpose of rc flying while watching your videos... love that...keep going
The build quality issues are concerning though I wonder how much of this is wanting it to be something it's not? I haven't flown it but have thought about getting it since if I get a pilots license someday an RV would be my dream plane, but then again, this does sit in a odd sort of midpoint between a bunch of their offerings in size and performance, though I do like the look over the commander.
The servo issues are endemic to the Horizon BnF’s. I’m batting about 50% with Horizon on servo failures per plane purchased (ie half the BnF’s I’ve bought have had a servo pack it in). Everybody who uses cheap servos has this issue (Flex gets a lot of flak for it for example)
The elevator is probably a bit of a twist in the moulding, probably the part cooled too fast. Mine is not like that but no guarantees either way. The prop coming loose is cheap hardware, a bit hard to stomach when the plane simply isn’t cheap to buy. The gear was the landing combined with scale gear, this isn’t a bush/STOL bird and while the gear isn’t flimsy, it’s also not super rugged and keeping it scale has a downstream impact (vs the semi-scale gear used on the Flex RV-8, which is more rugged but helps contribute to the sport scale looks of the Flex vs the more accurate scale looks of the E-Flite)
@@adam_mawz_maas Weird. I probably don't fly as much as you but I've not had a single servo fail on my planes. I'm probably at about 150 flights combined on my Carbon Cub and TTE, with about 50 on an F15, Ultrix, and a couple UMXs. Some of the servos make a lot of noise though. The linkages in steerable nosewheels however, not so great...
@@joegroves2517 I’ve found the failures typically happen quickly, and usually its the rudder for some reason. Had that fail out of the box on my Valiant 1.3m and after maybe 25 flights on my Ultimate 3D.
I don’t actually buy a lot of BnF’s either, maybe I’m just unlucky.
@@joegroves2517 Same here actually, I have several bnf's ,and I havent had a servo fail (except in accidents). I have the Commander mpd that I see a lot of people say have bad servos, but I have flown the heck out of mine for several years, and they are all still working fine.
You should do a video about DLG Gliders next!
It’s about time someone roasts Brian 😂
U do know u can just switch of as3x u don't need to swap the RX out. Thought I recognised your voice! Seen you in old vids when I first got into the hobby. New sub. 👍🏾
Yep, we’re aware, but we already had a spare AR620 so no reason to buy the BNF version. 👍 Welcome to the channel!
Also had a prop strike on landing with this plane and sold it to a friend.
In Australia this models lands at 500 AUD. IF these issues are a constant thing, thats a hard pass for me.
Glad you guys don’t blow sunshine up a major brand’s a$$🙂, calling it out like it is. Great content and presentation style🫡
You mean like FLEX INNOVATIONS (COUGH COUGH)😂😂😂
@@arnstvanbuell2811 I have flown the Flex Innovations RV-8. It is indeed a very well behaving plane in many aspect. I agree with their assessment🙂
We love our RV-8. The reason we love working with Flex is Quique said we can say whatever we want about their planes in our reviews as long as our feedback is honest. It’s very refreshing to find someone in the hobby industry who stands behind their products and isn’t afraid to let someone speak freely about them. We want nothing more than to maintain our integrity and be able to be direct and honest with the rc consumer base. If a manufacturer won’t allow that, we won’t work with them. 👍
@@TailHeavyProductions hear, hear!
@@TailHeavyProductions says every YT influencer . ;-))))))
From all models I fly, the RV-7 is the most unforgiving.
You have to pilot this plane all the time.
But again, decades ago I learned that scale airplanes don't fly as docile as normal "traditional" R/C models.
But overall a sweet bird.
Well done
Good one Zach and Ben! People should really listen to your narration. There is wisdom between the humor. The title is a bit “click bait” (I get it, you give HH props and honest criticism) BUT your narration has many many gold nuggets of great advice. My favorite- “…stall was fairly docile… AS WITH MANY RC AIRCRAFT JUST LET GO! And a caution for pulling too hard and inducing a secondary stall. Gold advice for most aero modelers of all skill levels.
Always entertaining, promotional and educational too! Thanks for the fun approach.
In fairness to HH and you freely admit it at the start, you did not use AS3X which is a design feature of these E Flite models. Yes, it can mask some not so great design characteristics and they have gone over the top with that on others (Draco!) but it is there. Maybe a compare/ contrast with an AS3x/ SAFE select stock (BNF Basic) AR631? Just sayin.
Thanks, Daren!
Regarding AS3X - nope. They sell this plane without AS3X as well (plug and play). That's the version we purchased and should have made that clearer in the video. In fact, most all of their models come as a plug and play option. If it was an exclusive design feature, they wouldn't offer it without it. 👍 -Zach
@@TailHeavyProductions Not suggesting “exclusive design feature”. Absolutely they offer as PNP as with many. I thought you guys made a very fair assessment with the version you purchased. In some of the E Flite designs AS3X and SAFE (I am a strong advocate for the technology) has been over used (IMHO) as replacement for encouraging better setup since it will compensate. Just conversation. All good.
it needs a smart ESC one that can go up to 6s
I wish I could beat up on planes like you guys. My luck they wouldn't be easily repairable
It needs tundra tires instead of the small wheels and wheel pants!
Compare the flex 170 to the flex rv
Bwaaahaaaa 😂 even though I don’t find Bruce neither stale nor old. 😇😄
Haha neither do we. Been watching x-jet since I was a kid. I just thought that thumbnail was perfect for that part while I was editing. - Ben
@@TailHeavyProductions it was perfect. And I’m sure he appreciates the gesture, humor is not lost on him 😉