Chronology resume - Basic contacted shark to join with him - Shark contacted basic, shark : instead me, why not you join us - Shark confirmed it to hoon, Hoon instead basic, let's get Zane and mielow - Shark contacted basic, hoon doesnt need basic, - Basic contacted Carlos, hey, Hoon would take Zane from me and replacing you (this is the chat). - Carlos : internal issue with shark and got this chat from basic. One part is missing to Carlos, Instead replacing him with Zane, Hoon want Zane and Carlos unite as a team (yeah, i know in the end one of them would not play much).
It’s funny basic talking like he’s clearing things up but he just showed that everything Hoon and Zane said was spot on accurate 😂 The main discrepancy I found between Hoon and Zane is Hoon said Zane declined and Zane said he didn’t decline and he’ll be involved in the future(whatever that meant he didn’t expand on it).
So, here's the pattern: Initially, he wanted to team up with Hoon, but after M4, he changed his mind and preferred CW as his mage teammate. Then, he favored Demon as his mage, only to later backtrack, criticizing Demon's abilities and praising Apple instead, even declaring Apple as the best mage in NA in an interview. However, despite this, they removed Apple from the team and Basic recruited Marqt to replace him. So, who will be the next victim to be thrown under the bus by Basic? Marqt again?....Basic😂😂😂
Basic is basic. Nothings changed. From ulvl - basic issue. M1 rus manager - basic. Nxpe - basic issue. Yawi - basic m4. Basic is an uncurable final stage cancer.
Hoon said that's what he was doing when Outplay went to MSC last year, Basic was out partying most of the time there instead of focusing on the tournament.
This guy creates problem everywhere from NA to Ph. He left team and when shark came back he wanted to team up with hoon who already had zia. He is a snake. Kids you will meet people like him in real life so you need to recognise it
yea both Zane and Hoon pretty much verified each other's story. Now with Basic's explanation i guess that further confirms what they both said. that sucks.
The reason Hoon refused to work with Basic because there was Zia, you can't just come in and replace Zia dude, you and Shark left early from the Outplay
@@hanagakisasuke4160 I think it's not about who's good or not. It's basic habit of throwing mages under the bus. First Hoon, then CW then demon, then Nicolette
Instead of improving together, you decided to ditch Hoon and form a team behind his back. Imagine how good they would have been by now if they had stuck together after M4.
Hoon's idea was so damn lit, having bp1 n zane for NA, one play assasin the other play tank.... that would be super...but at the moment assasins dont shine much..
@@dingriksangma764 only to fuck around then get humiliated on stage by other teams and then come back to repeat this whole process from the start. NA in nutshell.
To be honest, I couldn't care less about Zane's teammates, especially those four. I only support Zane in BTK, especially now that Carti and Fwyd are no longer part of the team.
Hoon criticising basic for not being discipline and he has all the right to do Yet basic saying "a lot of better mages than hoon" purely cuz of being butthurt that he isn't wanted 💀 This guy is the real snake
I was the guy who commented on his stream saying "hope you repair your relations with Hoon." While I respect Basic's stance, I think that time really heals all wounds. I'm sure that sometime years from now Basic and Hoon will laugh about all this drama and grab a beer together
he didnt see the need to take basic too because they already had zia who was performing well, thats why hoon said he only wanted zane so they got assassin+tank jungle options
@@hoho004he just wanted to take the competition away and having one or the other as a sub means you don’t believe in their abilities as the jungle. Why not look for another mage as the sub instead? Their point of talking about a switch idea was to create a riff between btk since they just beat gg that time. They wanted to take zane not as a replacement but for possible sub so there won’t be anyone to compete against gg which is a pussy move
@jjj4997 so what if it is a pussy move? if it works it works, that is how a business/org work where you mainly care about self benefits. That's why you see NA keep trying to form a super team since M4. Another case would be like how onic took albert because they think albert is the only threat in rrq/indo in general and with albert in onic they would have a easier time in mpl id. So sure it is a pussy move but at the same time it is also a theoretical move so that you can strive better and maybe produce better results for your country? the only cutback is if the players reject the offer
@@japanglishongakubaibu2058 not like you kids are😭 The whole world knows that NA is garbage with full of ego and drama after each and every tournament🤡🤡🤡
I watched Hoon's stream and the sole reason he didn't want to team up with Basic was because of him wanting to replace Hoon saying 'Chris is a better mage then him' and what not after M4 (The Valley). To be honest, who would want to team up with someone after saying all this shit. And after GG was formed he doesn't have any problem joining Hoon (regardless of shark inviting him). We all hate Basic for a reason but not doubt he always had a decent performance on stage and that's all. Just wait until he creates some nuisance even in the team he is in right now.
He is saying hoon is not good on stage, but that's the best they got in NA. Let's see how marqty will perform on stage because NACT Stage is not even close enough to stage lol
And Hoon played better in finals I swear idky ppl saying he did not… hoon was consistent in every single game literally, even when they took his Luo Yi it wasn’t as good as his
@@glorytahjidk, hoon kinda underperformed comparing it to the valley run. I also don’t get the hate on hoon’s mage performance. He was super passive but I don’t think that’s a bad thing. Every player has a way to play their own game. And his stats were obviously good in m4 which I would say wouldn’t be possible without being a decent player, having good team fight participation. I would add that he is kinda nervous on stage, we see it in his games compared to Nact. Losing confidence in making plays, overly cautious and all.
@@ryzey1538who are you to judge. U clearly lack knowledge in these game, stay out of it kiddo!. Its a team game, and if others are not performing well mages cant shine.
@@dailydose269 And why does your first statement contradict with your second? You seem to be void of any kind of self reflection when you proudly swear off someone you think is judging another person while you do the same in the next sentence you write.
I think Shark has had enough of Basic asking him to join BTK so he pitched the idea to Hoon but Hoon doesnt want Basic but Zane. And bestplayer is mad that Shark and Hoon didnt trust him. Wanting good players in your team is reasonable but getting mad cos Hoon didnt like him in his team is wild. Basically Basic ego is hurt, Shark and Hoon was reasonable. Bestplayer isn't wrong
🤣🤣 gosh, honest to God, for a long time i tried my best to like Basic despite his controversial life but this sht hard bro.. The guy probably bows and worships his portrait every morning.
He said he doesn't give a fuck but then leak the conversation all over NA discord because he's throwing a tantrum like a kid. He basically cause the rift between carlos and gg, he probably manipulated the story that he will get replaced by zane instead of them teaming up.
Hoon rejected the thought of Basic joining only because Zia was inside and he couldn’t just replace Zia. He doesn’t even hate Basic but this Basic is saying otherwise.🐍
Ngl he has full of ego which might surpass zane and even zane has got lots of redemption this days but i doubt basic gonna ever accept his fault from my pov he basically trying to defend himself by throwing hoon under the bus
I was a big fan of this guy before M1, then Paulo exposed him for being so toxic and even hitting with Deus Vult's manager. It just gotten worse and worse, and after not hearing about him for months, he's back again with another drama.
idk why Zane and Hoon dont team up tbh, Zane has a very good gaming sense of MLBB and hoon is good at shot calling. Zane Hoon Zia Chicken for me should form a team, get a coach then acterwards look for a roam that is deeicated and has morals.
If NA didn’t have drama, yall would say this shits boring and wouldn’t watch it. Now that NA has drama, yall are tuning into everything and complaining😂😂
@@rcgaming2325 yes he do too but hoon makes more mistakes if u cant see the difference then I guess you are not actually watchinf the gameplay but rooting for ur idol hoon
Basic is honestly the biggest snake in the world, first steals someone’s girl in indo, then acts like a friend to them, just to use them for his own gain,
Hoon getting exposed 😂 i always wandered he really didn't proved anything yet in the pro scene, except for getting carried and always getting surrounded by good players.
Chronology resume
- Basic contacted shark to join with him
- Shark contacted basic, shark : instead me, why not you join us
- Shark confirmed it to hoon, Hoon instead basic, let's get Zane and mielow
- Shark contacted basic, hoon doesnt need basic,
- Basic contacted Carlos, hey, Hoon would take Zane from me and replacing you (this is the chat).
- Carlos : internal issue with shark and got this chat from basic.
One part is missing to Carlos, Instead replacing him with Zane, Hoon want Zane and Carlos unite as a team (yeah, i know in the end one of them would not play much).
Perfectly explained this need to be pinned
It’s funny basic talking like he’s clearing things up but he just showed that everything Hoon and Zane said was spot on accurate 😂
The main discrepancy I found between Hoon and Zane is Hoon said Zane declined and Zane said he didn’t decline and he’ll be involved in the future(whatever that meant he didn’t expand on it).
@@maxb548 it's Valley dude
You went from a clickbait thumbnail poster to this 🥹 have a like
@@facts22423 but basic and Hoon don’t seem to want to play together
So, here's the pattern: Initially, he wanted to team up with Hoon, but after M4, he changed his mind and preferred CW as his mage teammate. Then, he favored Demon as his mage, only to later backtrack, criticizing Demon's abilities and praising Apple instead, even declaring Apple as the best mage in NA in an interview. However, despite this, they removed Apple from the team and Basic recruited Marqt to replace him. So, who will be the next victim to be thrown under the bus by Basic? Marqt again?....Basic😂😂😂
basic is the real snake 😂
maann you basically summarized everything 😂 thanks bro 👍🏻💯
Basic is basic. Nothings changed. From ulvl - basic issue. M1 rus manager - basic. Nxpe - basic issue. Yawi - basic m4. Basic is an uncurable final stage cancer.
Basic got cancelled in his own country. That alone is a clear indication that he's always the problem.
So that's how CW became the best marksman in MPL ID. Truly an adventurous backstory he got there.
Dude speaking exactly like the kids nowadays who says "no offense but" and proceed to say some offensive shyt.
typical kids nowadays 😂
Disclaimer 😂😂
Hoon also said basic is more focused on sleeping with young girls in asia then practicing, everyone is just ignoring that part lol
It's the truth though
I mean we can’t say he’s wrong for thinking that
Hoon said that's what he was doing when Outplay went to MSC last year, Basic was out partying most of the time there instead of focusing on the tournament.
This guy creates problem everywhere from NA to Ph. He left team and when shark came back he wanted to team up with hoon who already had zia. He is a snake. Kids you will meet people like him in real life so you need to recognise it
The retri gods
Even in indo he created problems when they went for m5
Two snakes creating drama
Man says “kids” when this guy is likely a teen himself 😂
So basically, what Hoon said were true. Basically
yea both Zane and Hoon pretty much verified each other's story. Now with Basic's explanation i guess that further confirms what they both said. that sucks.
BASICally 😂
@@feederchua will you be kind enough to tell what Hoon and Zane said? I just wanna catch up.
The reason Hoon refused to work with Basic because there was Zia, you can't just come in and replace Zia dude, you and Shark left early from the Outplay
Now he is just throwing hoon under the bus lol
Typical basic💀 he's a well known snake in the PH
Is hoon really that good ?
He is the best mage in NA @@hanagakisasuke4160
@@hanagakisasuke4160 I think it's not about who's good or not. It's basic habit of throwing mages under the bus. First Hoon, then CW then demon, then Nicolette
@@hanagakisasuke4160better than this basic guy for sure
Instead of improving together, you decided to ditch Hoon and form a team behind his back. Imagine how good they would have been by now if they had stuck together after M4.
Blud is a walking L 💀
After listening everyone's opinion...its clear ZANE is the GOAT of NA...even his enemy wants him😅
True😂😂😂😂
After listening to everyone Shark is the GOAT of NA
@@Known684 that's y he lost with 4 international players team 😂😂😂😂 cry kid
@@ScorpioUncle-pk7br How about ? 1.zane,
2. Shark
@@yeswhynot12341. Goat Zane
2. Goat Mielow. There no Shark. Even Mee Hoon want Goat Mielow
Hoon's idea was so damn lit, having bp1 n zane for NA, one play assasin the other play tank.... that would be super...but at the moment assasins dont shine much..
I could totally see that! but what about Deez? is he supposed to be the 3rd sub?
Basic is a terrible person.... No other words to describe him 🤷🏻♂️
But emoji can 🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍
He’s so mad that hoon doesn’t want to play with him that’s the only reason he said he’ll never play with hoon just to save his face 🤡
But now what only matter is basic going to msc 🤡
@@dingriksangma764 only to fuck around then get humiliated on stage by other teams and then come back to repeat this whole process from the start. NA in nutshell.
@@karanmakhija6985 we both will enjoy hoon watch party at home 🤡
@@dingriksangma764 hehehe … you forgot M1 , oh you are just a kid.
@@dingriksangma764 what do garo forest people know anything about msc 🫢
Im BTF die hard fan but everything bad happened was beacuse of basic..
We all lnow everywhere he go there is always a problem
To be honest, I couldn't care less about Zane's teammates, especially those four. I only support Zane in BTK, especially now that Carti and Fwyd are no longer part of the team.
If u r BTF die hard fan u don't u go there n comment ... This is no BTF jurisdiction ..mind it !!!
I think hoon is right about basic 😆
Everyone is right about basic pinoys his own people calls him snake and despise him
@@Tmpr77he cannot be a good person after doing all that bullshit even in ph,how you gonna just have sex with your best friend girl like wtf
Basic and Shark are super tight.. no surprise. The two most toxic in NA
Snakes to snakes
Basic The well known snake in The PH 💀
dude has the pakboi haircut that's a red flag 😅
Goat Mielow > Basic
Everybody call him second Lucifer please.
What did he do in ph
He used his godly retri skills in ph that's y people called him retri god@@-DA-ONE-
its funny that they survived together in Gosu for years, they are like little girls fr.
Hoon criticising basic for not being discipline and he has all the right to do
Yet basic saying "a lot of better mages than hoon" purely cuz of being butthurt that he isn't wanted 💀
This guy is the real snake
GUYS WAIT
WAIT…… Basic will do something again in btk. MSC will bring lots of drama😂😂
Nah bro I thought those two was chill but instead hoon was pretty chill with zane
Ratatouille, the master of cooking drama.
I was the guy who commented on his stream saying "hope you repair your relations with Hoon." While I respect Basic's stance, I think that time really heals all wounds. I'm sure that sometime years from now Basic and Hoon will laugh about all this drama and grab a beer together
That sounds disgusting, why u want a normal people to have a good relationship with a snake 🐍?
It's never gonna happen they both are adults and have that kind of nature in them
Basic is fake and egotistical, never gonna happen
Only fydchicken left to give his thoughts on the drama. Patiently waiting
2:15 He doesn't care but he does
yup 💯😂
basic toxic friend like they do in yawi
Can someone explain to him that he doesn't want to team up with him because of Zia playing with them since TOB was created.
So was Carlos but Hoon wanted Zane to replace bp1. What's your logic 🗿
@@volfgankamei5348he didn't want to replace he wanted both... Basically hoon wanted to fak BTK withoue Zane they had no threat.... 😂
he didnt see the need to take basic too because they already had zia who was performing well, thats why hoon said he only wanted zane so they got assassin+tank jungle options
@@hoho004he just wanted to take the competition away and having one or the other as a sub means you don’t believe in their abilities as the jungle. Why not look for another mage as the sub instead? Their point of talking about a switch idea was to create a riff between btk since they just beat gg that time. They wanted to take zane not as a replacement but for possible sub so there won’t be anyone to compete against gg which is a pussy move
@jjj4997 so what if it is a pussy move? if it works it works, that is how a business/org work where you mainly care about self benefits. That's why you see NA keep trying to form a super team since M4. Another case would be like how onic took albert because they think albert is the only threat in rrq/indo in general and with albert in onic they would have a easier time in mpl id. So sure it is a pussy move but at the same time it is also a theoretical move so that you can strive better and maybe produce better results for your country? the only cutback is if the players reject the offer
This clippers are so lit and concern about NA ego and drama mannnn😭😭😭
Man is milking it 😂 I mean im entertained
Beggars.. looking for scraps
Don't act like ya'll not enjoying the dramas
@@japanglishongakubaibu2058 not like you kids are😭 The whole world knows that NA is garbage with full of ego and drama after each and every tournament🤡🤡🤡
I mean you are the one watching it.
Oh so basic just salty cuz he think hoon stole shark from him. This some bl sht ngl.
I watched Hoon's stream and the sole reason he didn't want to team up with Basic was because of him wanting to replace Hoon saying 'Chris is a better mage then him' and what not after M4 (The Valley). To be honest, who would want to team up with someone after saying all this shit. And after GG was formed he doesn't have any problem joining Hoon (regardless of shark inviting him). We all hate Basic for a reason but not doubt he always had a decent performance on stage and that's all. Just wait until he creates some nuisance even in the team he is in right now.
Cant wait what drama Basic going to give us in this MSC. We all know everywhere he goes there is always something happen 🫣
Good for hoon ...Thank you basic for doing great job by thinking not to teamup with him
He is saying hoon is not good on stage, but that's the best they got in NA. Let's see how marqty will perform on stage because NACT Stage is not even close enough to stage lol
And Hoon played better in finals I swear idky ppl saying he did not… hoon was consistent in every single game literally, even when they took his Luo Yi it wasn’t as good as his
@@glorytahjidk, hoon kinda underperformed comparing it to the valley run. I also don’t get the hate on hoon’s mage performance. He was super passive but I don’t think that’s a bad thing. Every player has a way to play their own game. And his stats were obviously good in m4 which I would say wouldn’t be possible without being a decent player, having good team fight participation. I would add that he is kinda nervous on stage, we see it in his games compared to Nact. Losing confidence in making plays, overly cautious and all.
@@ryzey1538who are you to judge. U clearly lack knowledge in these game, stay out of it kiddo!. Its a team game, and if others are not performing well mages cant shine.
@@dailydose269 how low is your reading comprehension?
@@dailydose269 And why does your first statement contradict with your second? You seem to be void of any kind of self reflection when you proudly swear off someone you think is judging another person while you do the same in the next sentence you write.
Brothers To Enemies damn even tho he said he doesn't hate hoon ik he does
Wouldnt call it enemies sometimes people just outgrows each other.
I think Shark has had enough of Basic asking him to join BTK so he pitched the idea to Hoon but Hoon doesnt want Basic but Zane. And bestplayer is mad that Shark and Hoon didnt trust him.
Wanting good players in your team is reasonable but getting mad cos Hoon didnt like him in his team is wild.
Basically Basic ego is hurt, Shark and Hoon was reasonable. Bestplayer isn't wrong
Bro can’t stop crying, Hoon did the best on stage
ur high
Lmao
Crying for victory is the best 👍
lol hoon did the worst kda player
Hoon choked hard .. he did many error which isn't noticeable to you guys but I guess u will find out later when u grow up
Hoon is nervous on stage, Apple is nervous on stage...next we will hear Marqt is nervous on stage.
hoon : feeling is mutual
Daang this guy( hoon told they got zia so they don't need Basic lol
Yes he's bad on stage basic for his basic laning skills and hoon for being a scaredy cat
@@prajwalrai1251 yaa who need Basic when they have zia
@@jorden114 Zia is much better gold wyd mean epic noob?
@@prajwalrai1251bruh he said 'who needs basic when they have zia' he meant that zia is better than basic.
Why are you angry? 💀
@@yeswhynot1234 ohh than g!
🤣🤣 gosh, honest to God, for a long time i tried my best to like Basic despite his controversial life but this sht hard bro.. The guy probably bows and worships his portrait every morning.
He said he doesn't give a fuck but then leak the conversation all over NA discord because he's throwing a tantrum like a kid. He basically cause the rift between carlos and gg, he probably manipulated the story that he will get replaced by zane instead of them teaming up.
Can we get back The Valley plz 😂 if being nervous is the only bad thing about him, that can be worked on even tho he performed great in finals
Bro says he does not wanna team up with Hoon ,
No one in NA wants to team up with basics either, Zane took him because he had not option
True
This person is just straight up disgusting..all drama in NA either related to him or started by him
Hmm it is clear now that the mastermind is Basic...
Everyone you got to understand you can't mess with 3 million dollars,
Hoon rejected the thought of Basic joining only because Zia was inside and he couldn’t just replace Zia. He doesn’t even hate Basic but this Basic is saying otherwise.🐍
NA player biggest problem is they EGO
Nope it this snake 🐑🐑
Dont want to team up with hoon ever again but also don't hate him😆😆
After msc, zane hoon shark chicken and a gud good gold laner ( zia and basic? Hell nah) should form a team for m6
It’s understandable tho, throwing Zia under the bus would be bad. He forgets that
Tank jungle ends, Zane prime ends
I think so too...he and best has stage fright
Every dog has its day ....talking shit won't go a long way ...ma boi ...
Ngl he has full of ego which might surpass zane and even zane has got lots of redemption this days but i doubt basic gonna ever accept his fault from my pov he basically trying to defend himself by throwing hoon under the bus
The downfall of The self proclaim best mage in N.a 🤭
never turn your back on a flip
I was a big fan of this guy before M1, then Paulo exposed him for being so toxic and even hitting with Deus Vult's manager. It just gotten worse and worse, and after not hearing about him for months, he's back again with another drama.
even before m1, he looked so shady to me.
idk why Zane and Hoon dont team up tbh, Zane has a very good gaming sense of MLBB and hoon is good at shot calling. Zane Hoon Zia Chicken for me should form a team, get a coach then acterwards look for a roam that is deeicated and has morals.
if hoon dont want basic, zia get general hahahaha
Bro is salty
I am waiting for next NACT tournamnet you guys know what I Meant😆
They used to be best friends.
If NA didn’t have drama, yall would say this shits boring and wouldn’t watch it.
Now that NA has drama, yall are tuning into everything and complaining😂😂
When is this kid gonna grow up or is he gonna be a 🐱 forever
Just watch basic will make up some problem with a girl in MSC again 🤣
let's pray for the female's staying near him even though I don't believe in God I have the urge to pray for them right now.
NA dream team : basic , meilow vs all
2:13 idc but proceeded to leak the dm.
Typical basic everywhere he goes drama follows
So Basic just confirmed Hoon's and Zane's stories that he and Shark are the 2 biggest pieces of crap in NA lol
Indonesia:famous for production
NA:drama:\
basic got his feeling hurt then contact to bp1 lol
All i hear here is: hissssss hisss hissss 🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍
I agree with him on the choke and nervous part .. hoon gonna have stage fright forever
Thats just him 😅
Stage fright is normal kid, if you are not afraid then you are not normal😂😂
@@PorkDryFry it's not normal when u have alot of international tournament experience and always choke in stage thats not good for a pro player
The one who choked the most in internationals from NA is basic lol
@@rcgaming2325 yes he do too but hoon makes more mistakes if u cant see the difference then I guess you are not actually watchinf the gameplay but rooting for ur idol hoon
This guy is a joke Toxic drama creator.
This guy talks like people give a sht about him😂
When basic left gosu theirs hate started
how about apple?
no mention of it cause he can't spint it into something that makes him look good lol
@@feederchua LOL
@@jaywiz1374 he assaulted apple too 👽
He did something during practice session to Apple. Thats why Apple is not in the final. It was a team distraction.
@@raskreia8326 what do you mean ?
this guy so excited but will be trashed in MSC LMAO
4-0 clean sweep in the final😆
Basic is honestly the biggest snake in the world, first steals someone’s girl in indo, then acts like a friend to them, just to use them for his own gain,
Basic is just a “basic player “
why is bro always talking without breathing through the nose all the time? or that just how he is? Did he catch cold? Tf's goin on.
Hoon Love Basic
Zia > basic
he got hurt by hoon's opinion lowkey,
Hate to see friendship getting ruined. Zane and chicken now basic and hoon.
Haha he calls hoon nervous. Why’s he nervous to hit the base and join the team in team fights
Just waiting for him to create another scandal
Hoon getting exposed 😂
i always wandered he really didn't proved anything yet in the pro scene, except for getting carried and always getting surrounded by good players.
Fun fact: Basic participated in M1 as an EXP laner & he suxker. I believe Shark was their coach back then
The most hated person in mlbb history
Keep that cocky mindset till msc lmao boy about to get destroyed by intern teams
don't worry bro, he's nubs anyway
Leave all things a side.. i dnt like basic teeth...
basic still talking shit but in international tournaments his ass lol
Don't take shark ... egoistic Hella guy
Everywhere Basic goes there’s always a drama. Terrible person
Seems to have a Perma cold
Judas has spoken his side of the story