Award Winning Dark Weizenbock All-Grain Recipe
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- I've been challenged by @TheBrulosophyShow to see if I can best AI in developing a better recipe for a Dark Weizenbock. I've collected data from 30 Award Winning recipes and analyzed them for you to develop your best homebrew. Lots of good info on the style in here so watch till the end. If you brew this recipe, tell me about it in the comments!
UPDATE: I strongly encourage adjusting Alpha mash duration to 80 minutes complete conversion as presented by Mike and Stephanie Butler on Zymurgy live who tracked gravity during mashing showing 45 minutes was insufficient for full extraction.
This recipe's competition Pedigree
Best of Show:
2nd place, 2024 Bockfest Brewed by Michael Rensing
3rd place, 2024 Bluebonnet brew off , brewed by Mike and Stephanie Butler, 3rd out of 1406 entries
Gold
2024 ASH cactus classic, Brewed by Michael Rensing.
2024 Homebrew Alley, Brewed by Michael Rensing, 1st out of 12 entries
2024 Bluebonnet brew off, brewed by Mike and Stephanie Butler, 1st out of 35 entries.
2024 Bockfest Brewed by Michael Rensing
2024 SNAFU Winterfest, Brewed By Michael Rensing, 1st out of 10 entries
2023 Sowers Cup, brewed by Mike and Stephanie Butler, 1st out of 8 entries,
2023 Dog Days, brewed by Mike and Stephanie Butler, 1st out of 12 entries,
Silver
2024 Bluebonnet brew off, brewed by Mike McCurdy, 2nd out of 35 entries.
2024 Operation Fermentation, Brewed by Mike and Stephanie Butler, 2nd out of 10 entries
2024 Extravaganza!, Brewed by Michael Rensing, 2nd out of 6 Entries
Bronze
2024 Cherry Blossom Competition, Brewed by Michael Rensing, 3rd out of 22 entries
2024 Ocean State homebrew competition, brewed by Michael Rensing. 3rd out of 10 entries.
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If you brew this send me a bottle!
Love it - the challenge is on! Let’s see what you’ve got, artificial intelligence.
Oh man I love Martin but I am soooooo pulling for you my friend! You're gonna win this thing!
I have faith that you will defeat Skynet!
Interesting, Martins no slouch, recipe sounds like something I can brew soon for October
Martin's brewing both so my competitor is AI!
How long would you condition this in the bottle before serving? Excellent video and very exited to try it out!
minimum 6mo
When you say mash long for full conversion, what step would you stay on alpha or beta rest?
alpha usually for me.
I wonder why is WLP004 used at all in this style?
it was the 1995 recipe. not sure they had the weizen yeast available!
@@MeanBrews sounds like a thick bodied wheat amber ale to me!
Nice video! Could you possibly Mean a Dunkel Hefeweissbier?
Edit: Misinterpreted my question 😊 Could you possibly “MeanBrews” a Dunkel Hefeweissbier?
no this is a dark Weizenbock. A bock strength of a Dunkelsweizen
@@MeanBrews my question should have read more like: Could you possibly MeanBrews a Dunkel Hefeweissbier?
definitely can. I have not brewed it in a while and its gonna take alot more research because this one did not do well in competition at all. I need to figure out what I'm missing in the data.
@@MeanBrews The thing I noticed when researching dark Weizenbocks recently is that if you look at NHC winning recipes specifically, pretty much all of them are using WLP380. I use 300 in my pale weizenbock personally, but for darks, it seems like 380 is the way to go.
My guess is that it's because 380 is closer to the Schneider strain, which is unfortunately not available for purchase in the US to my knowledge. Schneider's produces way less isoamyl acetate than W's. Really it seems to me the closer you can get to Aventinus, the better, when it comes to winning. Aventinus got second to Vitus at World Beer Cup this year.
Made me go look!
WLP 300 NHC medalists - 2003 gold, 2007 gold, 2019 Silver
WLP 380 NHC medalists - 2012 gold, 2014 gold, 2015 gold,
how about Best of Show recipes
WLP 300 BoS recipes - 4
WLP 380 BoS recipes - 2
WLP 004 recipes - 1
I don't know if I could say 380 wins more than 300 based upon this distribution
Here's the NHC winners that used 300 and some are not on the AHA wbsite
2003 NHC gold, Karger Weizenbock, Brewed by Al Boyce, www.beertools.com/library/recipe.php?alias=html/recipe.php&view=3656
2007 NHC Gold, Bitezen Bock, Brewed by Rodney Kibzey from the Urban Knaves of Grain, www.homebrewersassociation.org/homebrew-recipe/bitezen-bock/
2019 NHC Silver, Winter Waver Weizenbock, Brewed by Jim Rupert of the Middeltown Area Society of Homebrewers, www.homebrewersassociation.org/homebrew-recipe/winter-wave-weizenbock/
The WLP004 recipe was from 1995 in the book, More Homebrew Favorites with a beer called, "The Heavyside Layer" from Marc Gottfried of the St. Louis Brews.