I have the r-121sw. It’s a pretty great sub. I picked it up for $300 brand new and just got a second one for the same price. Not that I needed the second because 1 was plenty but I watch a lot of movies so I wanted a more balanced sound. They definitely don’t disappoint and don’t run out of steam.
I have 2 Klipsch R-12SW in my basement. I think they sound phenomenal. The bass pumps out of them. I have one in the front right side and one in back left side. It took some moving around to get just the right sound and now its incredible. I bought the Klipsch speaker pack without subwoofer from Costco. Initially I purchase 1 subwoofer but I felt that a single sub was not enough for me. I ended up getting another and that did the trick.
I bought that model from Costco a year ago for $149.00 / I did not have the same experience as others here. Took it back within 2 days - port chuffing was horrendous for me. But for $149.00, I guess if the budget's tight some will be happy
I actually won an SPL-150 and at the time had an SVS PB-1000. The SVS could dig about as deep but had no where near the output of the 15” Klipsch. Granted it is twice the price. I added an OSD DSP module to flatten out the response. It does roll off fast below 19-20 hz. In my 1200 cubic foot theater I keep volume know at about 40-45%. Anything more and stuff starts to fall off the walls😂. Would I have bought this sub, probably not. Am I happy with it YEP!
There's more than just how low a sub goes, at least for some of us. Case in point, I much prefer my sealed 12" SVS sub over than the rear ported JBL12" sub that I previously owned, even though the JBL seemed to go a bit lower. I prefer something that extends the range of my bookshelf speakers (Jamo C103, which actually have pretty good bass), but more than going super-low, I want a tighter, more accurate bass sound. The SVS seems to be faster reacting so that the bass is clear and easier to pick out and with stuff like upright bass, I can hear the acoustical qualities more (greater realism). The JBL, might have been slightly better for stuff like action movies with lots of special effects, but even though I have my TV hooked up to my audio system, it's still music that's far more important to me. With really heavy bass music too, the JBL could start to get muddy sounding above a certain volume level, whereas the SVS sounds more musical at any volume...
If you favour music over movies you should try a Rel subwoofer or two, their drivers move so fast that the sub can share the same signal with the stereos! (High level input) that's what you call a real musical sub! They're provide perfect extension to allow my Sonus Faber standmount speakers play full-range.
I agree on Klipsch. I just got a Jamo c912 and it goes to 29 and I notice a cleaner sound and how it works in the background over my Polk psw10. The Polk was louder and tried to deliver more but didn’t sound right
Retired music lover here. My system consists of a receiver, a CD player, a turntable, a pair of the Andrew Jones designed Pioneer bookshelf speakers---which I love---and a Klipsch r-120sw sub, which I am ambivalent about. My musical tastes require a subwoofer that excells from about 30 herz up to where the bass rolls off on the little Pioneers---the range where most real bass exists in music. The Klipsch sub does this reasonably well. I am well aware of this subs deficiencies: unbraced, thin cabinet walls; an underpowered amp; and a cheap driver. But I paid $250 for this sub new, and until the likes of SVS, HSU, etc. can bring to market a subwoofer at or near this price, and that is demonstrably better, I will have to be satisfied with my r-120sw. Actually, I am grateful thus product exists. While I realize that the main point of this video is that Klipsch doesn't make subwoofers that produce true subatomic bass, one cannot totally dismiss the merits of their current lineup of subwoofers. I look forward to your observations about their new subs. Thank you for your informative and entertaining videos.
What do you think of the Definitive Technology descend 15" subwoofer? I got it on sale $1079. It's a little bigger than I thought it would be so it may be going back. I hits hard at 20hz on the bass sweep test but doesn't put out as loud as my monoprice 15".
Totally agree with you and I own Klipsch speakers. They shouldn't call them sub woofers. They're more like bass modules. But to be fair you should get two since that's the desired set up for home theater.
I live in a apartment and use a couple of old models Klipsch Synergy Sub 12's (07). I can only turn them up 25% to keep the neighbors happy . 24Hz-120Hz +/- 3dB not the best but good Hope it works out for you KPG Merry XMas
I bought an old flagship RSW10 (this sub is like 20 years old now) off of a guy a few weeks ago. That thing is ridiculous and doesn’t struggle at all. The R-100SW I previously had doesn’t hold a candle to the sound quality or output the RSW has. Granted the RSW back in its heyday was around $1300 and pushes 1,150 watts compared to the R-100SW. Then again, the RSW has more power than even their top tier subs. So idk if it’s also a quality issue or what. This could also be one of those “they don’t make things like they used to” situations.
I have an entry level Klipsch 5.1.2 setup I bought on a Black Friday deal Christmas 2016. It’s a giant leap in performance from my theater in a box I’ve had since 2003 and it’s still going strong. The R-12SW was too big for my room for many years, the R-26 towers were good enough for relatively near field listening. Used an Onkyo NR656 to power it all and again, it worked for me in my situation. I just upgraded to a Pioneer 505 and am looking forward to setting it up when I get home for Christmas break.
I've always told people not to buy Klipsch subwoofers...even for a decent sized room, I would strongly recommend the Monolith M-10 sub. That thing makes Klipsch subwoofers look like child's play. That or a speed sub. I don't think there's a better sub on the market than the 13 or 16 inch 2000w Monoliths. Hands down the best overall subs available and I've heard em all.
Have you heard JTR, Power Sound Audio, Rythmik, REL, Harbottle, SVS, JL Audio, Funk Audio, Martin Logan or Paradigm subwoofers. Because all of them will beat Monoprice.
I agree - I tried many other subs including Klipsch - went to Monoprice and absolutely love my Monolith 10" THX certified sub. Service has always been top notch for me. Still have an RSL Speedwoofer 10S / debating on keeping it, cause till Monolith, I swore by this sub and still think for under $500.00 it's one of the best on the market.
I’m not going to disagree with anything you guys say but I found that if you are going to use Kilpsch or any other product you are going to need to dial them in and to do that you will need a mini dsp or something like that and at lease 2 subs 3 is better for the best responsive bass that you can get for the price of 4 Kilpsch R12s was less than 1 of those high end subs and if you’re going to get the best out of any sub you will need to put the work in. Also if you have a tight budget you can get better sound out 4 then you can get out of 1 and some cases even 2 all about placement and dialing in the proper range for your room .
I’m just getting started in my home theater journey. I have Klipsch reference premiere speakers, 5.1 setup, and an svs pb-2000 pro sub. My buddy gave me some klipsch in wall speakers for atmos that I will be putting in my ceiling at some point. I’m looking at getting a second sub eventually but that was all I could afford. I want an amp and a bigger tv before I buy more speakers lol
I've got 6 r-12 sw subs and they do go below 20hz maybe not by a hole lot . But for the price I paid for the 6 klipsch 12" Subs with the even response I get in my room . Plus with the gains turned way down the out put is so clean with no distortion . A single svs pb 3000 for about the same price would not even compare to these 6 Subs combined.
Klipsch is just a company that caters to everybody. NOT JUST SUBS. But I get what you’re saying. I don’t know Why they have so many types of subs. I have a middle of the road 5.2 Klipsch system in my basement, bought everything on sale and spent about $700. Totally happy for Home Theater. Music wise, it depends on the recorded source. But it’ll do. Love the channel. Happy Holidays
Well, I think you saved me from going cheap on my first sub. I've got a 11×17 listening room and was looking at a Klipsch for music only. Going to to check out the svs. Or should I concider another?
I have 2 150spl and your right klipsch subwoofers lacking. But they are more affordable. So until I can afford svs I have to make due with my klipsch subwoofers lol
Just wanted to thank you for mentioning the best Klipsch subwoofer I'm planning on getting one of their 7.1.4 packages but I was clueless about what sub to get so now I'll probably get the SPL 150 so thanks again
I grabbed a couple of the R12SW subs for my dedicated room for the winter while I work on my Dayton Ultimax's. I got them from Costco for under 160 bux for each. I do have them on a mini DSP and they are positioned behind my acoustically transparent screen (I have 2 small yamaha subs behind my couch for a bit of fill and buttshakerness). The volume is set to a little more than half on each woofer. After calibration I really dont have anything negative to say about them, especially for the price. Even at reference level they dont bottom out and do great for 90-95% of a movies soundtrack. A guy in my area home theater club brought his meters and they tested right at 27hz. I am definitely happy Im building the Ultimax subs to get into those teen level hz numbers but for the average to slightly above average HT enthusiast I think Klipsch are just fine, not incredible, but perfectly acceptable. SIDE NOTE, I dont use my HT setup for music so your experiences with that model sub may be way different. I'm kind of indifferent to the idea of Klipsch making more heavy duty subs. Theres so many other options out there that I kinda dont care.
I agree with you totally, I have one and their is no deep bass under 22 hrz at all. I looks at their add all the time on their subs, and their logo is "let your neighbors know you are home"
It was a toss up with me a year ago. I was thinking should I get a Klipsch 12 inch sub or a Polk Audio 12 inch sub. I went with the Polk Audio because it had decent reviews. I found out how good it sounded so I bought another so I can have 2 Polk Audio powered subs in my Dolby Atmos system along with my 8k Denon amp. Best choice I've made. I don't regret it one bit. Nice deep tones when 2 subs are used and you don't have to use nearly the power that you have to with one sub. Great investment. I have a 10 inch wireless down firing Klipsch sub in the living room and it pounds so hard that I bought in April and it sounds amazing.
The subs suck. If they focused on less than 50 different lines of the same speaker they would be better respected in the audiophile world. They do have really good speakers in their lineup and the subs are the weakest link. They just have too many product lines to dig through to find the best in the lineups.
@@Lowkey_nxthxn I agree on Klipsch, I see them at Costco but could not buy. I had a Polk psw10 and it was not good at clean bass. I bet if I had a better Polk subwoofer it would preform better
@@Mjaybird people don't like Polk audio subwoofer but yet they don't like them because they haven't spent enough time on them. I have two 12s from Polk which they are 300 watts to 460 watts peak. And hit lower then most of there subwoofer's and don't bottom out.
I bought the SPL 150 in January of this year and it stop working last week and back at audio advice where I got it from so that they can go through it. I also have the Klipsch RP 8000 and the life is being sent to them. Imagine my surprise when I hear these speakers are kicking like the SW is still in the room. Makes me wonder if my SW even made a difference. Guess I'll be looking at some SVS subs. One question, would I see a noticeable difference between the Klipsch SPL 150 and the SVS pb 3000
Thanks for the reply, hopefully I can find a way to get one soon. I'm reading on your post that Klipsch is coming out with an upgraded line of SW which might explain why when I go to Klipsch online they have discontinued the SPL 150 and hopefully they may have to replace my SW with the new one and if that's the case I'll let y'all know how it does. Thanks again.
Klipsch is a great speaker company. SPEAKER company. Stick with the online subwoofer companies for the best bang for your buck, like HSU. I own a Klipsch 150, but only because it was on sale for like $500. At that price, it's a great deal. Otherwise, you're just paying for the Klipsch name.
Klipsch's sub model line may be sub-par on purpose. They would probly tell you that if you wanted proper kick, to just grab a pair of RF7-III's. Those paired w/ proper amplification, and you wont be left looking to add a sub at all.
Digging deep is 1 thing, but what about the punch? In regards to money better spent on other brands, no one else is gonna have a 15" go below $700 on the used market lol. There's barely much of a difference between 19-24 Hz cuz most music and movies won't even go that low.
I have a klipsch 125. It’s feels my medium sized room. At lower volumes. It’s more slam. That really deep bass. Which is my knock on them. But they’re not bad subs. They’re just not the go sub. For really deep bass.
I currently have a klipsch sub... it's not good. I am currently saving up for a PSA S21M IPAL. I expect to be amazed by the PSA. My brother has a SVS SB 3000 and that sub blows away my klipsch. Bought it when I was first starting off with home audio and have always regretted it.
Be prepared to be disappointed. I have a pair of La Scalas that I purchased new in 1983 and the main shortcoming is their lack of bass. I have always been disappointed that klipsch never made any subwoofer systems that were above entry level. With a pair of JTR ULF4000s, lack of bass is no longer an issue
I think you comparing Best Buy subs to SVS, Monolith, etc. is not a true comparison. R-121SW routinely sells for under $400 while the others you mentioned can sell for 2-4 times that price.
I'm not comparing anything. Every manufacturer I mentioned Sells subs between 400 and 1400 and klipsch doesn't out perform any of them. Not comparing because there is no comparison
I bought 4 r12sw @ costco for $150 each. Use them with a minidsp 2x4 hd for home theater. Once you eq them they aren't half bad. Can get a little below 20. Never had them bottom out. The are super boomy without eq. For $600 I don't think I can do much better.
I have 2 Klipsch R-12SW 12 inch subs in my bedroom and they rock !! I have 2 PB-2000 SVS and 2 SB-1000 subs in my living room that are definitely better than the klipsch. The only thing is that I have to turn up the sub level in my Denon X3800H avr in order to get the thumping bass that I like.
@@Kpaceguy Kpaceguy will bluetooth floor Tower speakers connect to a 2021 sony oled tv. also what type of Tower speakers would you prefer for highs for a 65 inch tv for a small bedroom something under $1,500 dollars. I'm looking for good surround sound highs not base
My first home theater subs were a pair of Klpsch SPL-120's which is stubbornly bought against recommendation on the forums. Since then I've had a number of different subs: pair of HSU Research, Dayton Ultimax, Definitive technology, SVS PB 16's, and Stereo Integrity. The Klipsch were easily the worst except for the little def tech sub, but thats not to say they are bad subs. They do sound really good. They have a nice tone, and I really like them for music. There just are better options for the money especially if you prioritize things like impact and extension. Also , all the Klipsch Subs below the SPL line are budget subs. They are always sold for less than their "MSRP" and for the prices sold I would think they are decent little budget subs. Granted they sell a ton bc people who dont know any better see "Klipsch" and think it's high end, but still they may not be horrible buys for the money. Lastly, they do have a new line of subs coming out soon. The flagship is a 16" driver in a really big box. Could be a step in the right direction. Either way, they aren't really known for their subwoofers and they know that. They seem to try put out a competent sub to finish their system's as well as some budget options and leave the serious subs to others.
When the do make a great sub in the past they asked a lot of money for them. I'm sure they were getting beat out by less expensive models and stopped production because of it. They have the knowledge and the steady hands to pull off a processor like that though.
@@Kpaceguy yes they did but they're starting to give about the same type of amp issues unfortunately however I will say Crutchfield is standing behind my warranty it's still very aggravating..
I have 4 Klipsch R12w subs in my setup and they are great for running a home theater in a open concept room and a solid 15 to 20 hz using a mini dsp just as long as you are putting the work in to dial them in correctly and that takes time but you can get a good low response but not in a range below 15 and I had bring my subs up to 20hz because I was rattling the house next door on either side because they could hear the bass coming from my room. So are they the best no they are not are my Polk 10s subs better than the Kilpsch R12s at this time no they are not only because of the output is only 50 watts and 200 watts for the Kilpsch and like any plate amp if you are going to over drive them they are not going to last.
I bought - and bought back a Klipsch sub - would never touch one again. Port chuffing was horrendous. Too many much better competitors out there - you named many / and I agree. RSL makes probably the best sub $500.00 10" sub on the market. Emotiva subs are made of thick HDF - not MDF baffles and around 1" thick. And have serious kick below 20 Hz. I don't like their speakers either / if you're into that horn loaded "V" curve sound, have at it. Not for me - tweeters always sound harsh to me, and they don't take kindly to EQ.
I've had a couple of their subs, and both the bash amps went bad, the new ones aren't good, look good, but mine had alot of port noise also. Emotiva as well, a buddy had 2, both amps went bad quickly, powered isn't the way to go, passive is, buy or build a passive and add a big crown xls-1502/2502 etc. and call it a day and will last much longer and much more versatile. I do love the Klipsch heritage line though, fortes are incredible, just not a fan of the subs.
I own a r112 which is the exact same as the r121 and spl120 and dual r12 and I must say the r12doesnt deep it’s ok but the r112 can dig deeper but it is for such a loud lil guy
You're gonna be disappointed again Kyle, as Klipsch Subs just SUCK 🤣🤣🤣. My smallest sub is an SVS SB-2000 in my bedroom and it runs circles around that 15-inch Klipsch you mentioned
The new RP subs getting ready to come out are incredible. You will not be disappointed. Was listening to the sound tests the other day in the Head quarters and they POUND, dig deep, and are extremely detailed. They provide more power as well. They are worthy of the reference premiere name.
You got Klipsch all wrong subwoofers go deep if you have them dialed in correctly they will get really deep bass if you have them set up correctly obviously you don’t take the time to get the subwoofer dialed in correctly
@@Kpaceguy Not @ all I do believe it is the amplifier, spoke with Crutchfield this morning they gave me a decision to make they said they would send out to RP 1200 or I would have to wait up to 3 weeks for them to get the RP 1600s back in stock at that time they would switch it out free of charge that's pretty much where I stand I'm kind of scared either way but I can't say at least Crutchfield is standing behind their product.
I’m looking at the subwoofers you recommended (SpeedWoofer 10s MKII. I almost purchased the Klipsch SPL-100 subwoofer but doing my research. For me mostly movies and sports and music as well your thoughts?
Because they know the power of advertising on social media and I don't Hate them at all. I tell it like it is with every brand. If they stand behind their product and it's a good product, they'll be confident and I'll admit that it's good. Or vice versa.
People buy Klipsch because of the unique copper colored woofer and it sounds ok (not the best). They are almost never the best bang for your buck. but good enough for some to justify the pretty woofer. If they actually made a better subwoofer they would way overprice it. Lastly, I bet if they started manufacturing better components, at a better price, with black woofers.... nobody would buy it.
I don't like them to I'm a fan of Polk audio subs I own two psw505 which are way powerful then those and dig way lower. Which I can't stand when they have 32hz subs and 25hz lol
I’m looking at that subwoofer over the Klipsch SPL 100. My family room is open to the kitchen area so I’m trying to see coverage for the area. I’m using them for mostly movies and sports.
Klipsch is trash unless your talking vintage. Alot of guys that started out with klipsch subs do not run them anymore after being introduced to a real sub. Ive pretty much owned most brands and as of right now ive settled with two monolith thx 10's. And they are quality versatile subs doing anything i ask of them, ive owned many klipsch and boomy is the word no matter where you place them, poorly designed thin cabs.
I have the r-121sw. It’s a pretty great sub. I picked it up for $300 brand new and just got a second one for the same price. Not that I needed the second because 1 was plenty but I watch a lot of movies so I wanted a more balanced sound. They definitely don’t disappoint and don’t run out of steam.
orderd jus now 2 x 121 sw. excited. updating from single 10 inch
I’m buying the R-121SEW for my 5.1.2 setup in the end of the year, can’t go with the RP-1200 because of the f*cking length, is too long for my room :(
I have 2 Klipsch R-12SW in my basement. I think they sound phenomenal. The bass pumps out of them. I have one in the front right side and one in back left side. It took some moving around to get just the right sound and now its incredible. I bought the Klipsch speaker pack without subwoofer from Costco. Initially I purchase 1 subwoofer but I felt that a single sub was not enough for me. I ended up getting another and that did the trick.
Yup your right I have those same subs and they rock...
I bought that model from Costco a year ago for $149.00 / I did not have the same experience as others here. Took it back within 2 days - port chuffing was horrendous for me.
But for $149.00, I guess if the budget's tight some will be happy
I actually won an SPL-150 and at the time had an SVS PB-1000. The SVS could dig about as deep but had no where near the output of the 15” Klipsch. Granted it is twice the price. I added an OSD DSP module to flatten out the response. It does roll off fast below 19-20 hz. In my 1200 cubic foot theater I keep volume know at about 40-45%. Anything more and stuff starts to fall off the walls😂. Would I have bought this sub, probably not. Am I happy with it YEP!
I have a pair of Klipsch R12’s as my rear subs. I don’t have any issues with them. They fill out my 4 sub layout!
There's more than just how low a sub goes, at least for some of us. Case in point, I much prefer my sealed 12" SVS sub over than the rear ported JBL12" sub that I previously owned, even though the JBL seemed to go a bit lower. I prefer something that extends the range of my bookshelf speakers (Jamo C103, which actually have pretty good bass), but more than going super-low, I want a tighter, more accurate bass sound. The SVS seems to be faster reacting so that the bass is clear and easier to pick out and with stuff like upright bass, I can hear the acoustical qualities more (greater realism). The JBL, might have been slightly better for stuff like action movies with lots of special effects, but even though I have my TV hooked up to my audio system, it's still music that's far more important to me. With really heavy bass music too, the JBL could start to get muddy sounding above a certain volume level, whereas the SVS sounds more musical at any volume...
If you favour music over movies you should try a Rel subwoofer or two, their drivers move so fast that the sub can share the same signal with the stereos! (High level input) that's what you call a real musical sub! They're provide perfect extension to allow my Sonus Faber standmount speakers play full-range.
I agree on Klipsch. I just got a Jamo c912 and it goes to 29 and I notice a cleaner sound and how it works in the background over my Polk psw10. The Polk was louder and tried to deliver more but didn’t sound right
Retired music lover here. My system consists of a receiver, a CD player, a turntable, a pair of the Andrew Jones designed Pioneer bookshelf speakers---which I love---and a Klipsch r-120sw sub, which I am ambivalent about. My musical tastes require a subwoofer that excells from about 30 herz up to where the bass rolls off on the little Pioneers---the range where most real bass exists in music. The Klipsch sub does this reasonably well. I am well aware of this subs deficiencies: unbraced, thin cabinet walls; an underpowered amp; and a cheap driver. But I paid $250 for this sub new, and until the likes of SVS, HSU, etc. can bring to market a subwoofer at or near this price, and that is demonstrably better, I will have to be satisfied with my r-120sw. Actually, I am grateful thus product exists.
While I realize that the main point of this video is that Klipsch doesn't make subwoofers that produce true subatomic bass, one cannot totally dismiss the merits of their current lineup of subwoofers. I look forward to your observations about their new subs. Thank you for your informative and entertaining videos.
I appreciate it!
What do you think of the Definitive Technology descend 15" subwoofer? I got it on sale $1079. It's a little bigger than I thought it would be so it may be going back. I hits hard at 20hz on the bass sweep test but doesn't put out as loud as my monoprice 15".
@@brosmile9388 its an excellent sub. Had the 10in version and was impressed. And sounds good.
Totally agree with you and I own Klipsch speakers. They shouldn't call them sub woofers. They're more like bass modules. But to be fair you should get two since that's the desired set up for home theater.
I live in a apartment and use a couple of old models Klipsch Synergy Sub 12's (07). I can only turn them up 25% to keep the neighbors happy . 24Hz-120Hz +/- 3dB not the best but good Hope it works out for you KPG Merry XMas
Thank you buddy!
I bought an old flagship RSW10 (this sub is like 20 years old now) off of a guy a few weeks ago. That thing is ridiculous and doesn’t struggle at all. The R-100SW I previously had doesn’t hold a candle to the sound quality or output the RSW has. Granted the RSW back in its heyday was around $1300 and pushes 1,150 watts compared to the R-100SW. Then again, the RSW has more power than even their top tier subs. So idk if it’s also a quality issue or what. This could also be one of those “they don’t make things like they used to” situations.
Klipsch subs from the early 2000s were far better and kicked complete butt.
I have an entry level Klipsch 5.1.2 setup I bought on a Black Friday deal Christmas 2016. It’s a giant leap in performance from my theater in a box I’ve had since 2003 and it’s still going strong. The R-12SW was too big for my room for many years, the R-26 towers were good enough for relatively near field listening. Used an Onkyo NR656 to power it all and again, it worked for me in my situation. I just upgraded to a Pioneer 505 and am looking forward to setting it up when I get home for Christmas break.
I've always told people not to buy Klipsch subwoofers...even for a decent sized room, I would strongly recommend the Monolith M-10 sub. That thing makes Klipsch subwoofers look like child's play. That or a speed sub. I don't think there's a better sub on the market than the 13 or 16 inch 2000w Monoliths. Hands down the best overall subs available and I've heard em all.
Have you heard JTR, Power Sound Audio, Rythmik, REL, Harbottle, SVS, JL Audio, Funk Audio, Martin Logan or Paradigm subwoofers. Because all of them will beat Monoprice.
@@keepingupwiththejones2933 yeah and there service suck big time and i would never buy Monoprice
I agree - I tried many other subs including Klipsch - went to Monoprice and absolutely love my Monolith 10" THX certified sub.
Service has always been top notch for me.
Still have an RSL Speedwoofer 10S / debating on keeping it, cause till Monolith, I swore by this sub and still think for under $500.00 it's one of the best on the market.
I’m not going to disagree with anything you guys say but I found that if you are going to use Kilpsch or any other product you are going to need to dial them in and to do that you will need a mini dsp or something like that and at lease 2 subs 3 is better for the best responsive bass that you can get for the price of 4 Kilpsch R12s was less than 1 of those high end subs and if you’re going to get the best out of any sub you will need to put the work in. Also if you have a tight budget you can get better sound out 4 then you can get out of 1 and some cases even 2 all about placement and dialing in the proper range for your room .
I’m just getting started in my home theater journey. I have Klipsch reference premiere speakers, 5.1 setup, and an svs pb-2000 pro sub. My buddy gave me some klipsch in wall speakers for atmos that I will be putting in my ceiling at some point. I’m looking at getting a second sub eventually but that was all I could afford. I want an amp and a bigger tv before I buy more speakers lol
I've got 6 r-12 sw subs and they do go below 20hz maybe not by a hole lot . But for the price I paid for the 6 klipsch 12" Subs with the even response I get in my room . Plus with the gains turned way down the out put is so clean with no distortion . A single svs pb 3000 for about the same price would not even compare to these 6 Subs combined.
That's true same as a buy 4 Klipsch r-115sw than for same price use only one svs pb16 ultra
Yes buy 4 over 1 if you can
@@Kpaceguy so what do you prefer put 4 Klipsch 15" in each corner or just one svs pb16 ultra
@Your Nightmare I always recommend 2 or more subs but they don't need to be klipsch
@@Kpaceguy so it shouldn't be svs pb 16 ultra either
I owned a klipsch from 1990 until 1997 it kicked butt. Moved to apt had to sell it.
Klipsch is just a company that caters to everybody. NOT JUST SUBS. But I get what you’re saying. I don’t know Why they have so many types of subs.
I have a middle of the road 5.2 Klipsch system in my basement, bought everything on sale and spent about $700. Totally happy for Home Theater. Music wise, it depends on the recorded source. But it’ll do.
Love the channel. Happy Holidays
I appreciate it!
Well, I think you saved me from going cheap on my first sub. I've got a 11×17 listening room and was looking at a Klipsch for music only.
Going to to check out the svs. Or should I concider another?
SVS, REL, Monolith, Rythmik, Speedwoofer, Def Tech, Starke.
I have 2 150spl and your right klipsch subwoofers lacking. But they are more affordable. So until I can afford svs I have to make due with my klipsch subwoofers lol
Nice info!! Have you since posted a video on the R-121SW?
I posted one recently on their new rp1200 12in subwoofer
I have 2 SPL-150’s. In my room, I’m getting 16hz-80hz range. Good subs for those who don’t know what else is out there lol. Adequate for small spaces
Did you ever buy and test the Klipsch sub to test? I just scrolled through your videos and could not find.
Nope but still plan to
@@Kpaceguy i have the R-100SW and it goes below 20Hz... Its pretty decent
Happy Birthday Kyle🎂
I appreciate it!
Just wanted to thank you for mentioning the best Klipsch subwoofer I'm planning on getting one of their 7.1.4 packages but I was clueless about what sub to get so now I'll probably get the SPL 150 so thanks again
No problem!
I grabbed a couple of the R12SW subs for my dedicated room for the winter while I work on my Dayton Ultimax's. I got them from Costco for under 160 bux for each. I do have them on a mini DSP and they are positioned behind my acoustically transparent screen (I have 2 small yamaha subs behind my couch for a bit of fill and buttshakerness). The volume is set to a little more than half on each woofer. After calibration I really dont have anything negative to say about them, especially for the price. Even at reference level they dont bottom out and do great for 90-95% of a movies soundtrack. A guy in my area home theater club brought his meters and they tested right at 27hz. I am definitely happy Im building the Ultimax subs to get into those teen level hz numbers but for the average to slightly above average HT enthusiast I think Klipsch are just fine, not incredible, but perfectly acceptable. SIDE NOTE, I dont use my HT setup for music so your experiences with that model sub may be way different. I'm kind of indifferent to the idea of Klipsch making more heavy duty subs. Theres so many other options out there that I kinda dont care.
Absolutely agree 👍😎
I agree with you totally, I have one and their is no deep bass under 22 hrz at all. I looks at their add all the time on their subs, and their logo is "let your neighbors know you are home"
Your room dimensions or volume (cubic) is probably limiting your response. For what it’s worth
Great great video I think Klipsch is best for regular people like me everyone isn't an audiophile lol
The day I have Klipsch in my system is the day I give up bathing and brushing my teeth.
🤣🤣
Exactly
It was a toss up with me a year ago. I was thinking should I get a Klipsch 12 inch sub or a Polk Audio 12 inch sub. I went with the Polk Audio because it had decent reviews. I found out how good it sounded so I bought another so I can have 2 Polk Audio powered subs in my Dolby Atmos system along with my 8k Denon amp. Best choice I've made. I don't regret it one bit. Nice deep tones when 2 subs are used and you don't have to use nearly the power that you have to with one sub. Great investment. I have a 10 inch wireless down firing Klipsch sub in the living room and it pounds so hard that I bought in April and it sounds amazing.
I couldn't agree more with you I have two Polk audio psw505 and hit way lower then thoes subs. It's literally a rip off for the money
The subs suck. If they focused on less than 50 different lines of the same speaker they would be better respected in the audiophile world. They do have really good speakers in their lineup and the subs are the weakest link. They just have too many product lines to dig through to find the best in the lineups.
@@Lowkey_nxthxn I agree on Klipsch, I see them at Costco but could not buy. I had a Polk psw10 and it was not good at clean bass. I bet if I had a better Polk subwoofer it would preform better
@@Mjaybird people don't like Polk audio subwoofer but yet they don't like them because they haven't spent enough time on them. I have two 12s from Polk which they are 300 watts to 460 watts peak. And hit lower then most of there subwoofer's and don't bottom out.
@@Lowkey_nxthxn I have 2 psw505's as well outstanding bass when adjusted right and placed it the proper location
Monolith Subs beat out SVS for virtually every price point. This coming from a current SVS owner and fan.
Had the Klipsch rsw15s for years until last year. Now have the dual F18 Rythmiks. My god, I didn't know what true bass was until now.
I have the same complaint with Aperion Subs. They don’t dig below 25 Hz and cost way too much for their performance.
I have 2 SPL150’s I love them, they are the best thing about the system lol
"Klipsch, I want you to take control of my bottom end."
They are all branding. You really have to get in to their high end lines to really have your breath taken away beyond having big sound.
I bought the SPL 150 in January of this year and it stop working last week and back at audio advice where I got it from so that they can go through it. I also have the Klipsch RP 8000 and the life is being sent to them. Imagine my surprise when I hear these speakers are kicking like the SW is still in the room. Makes me wonder if my SW even made a difference. Guess I'll be looking at some SVS subs. One question, would I see a noticeable difference between the Klipsch SPL 150 and the SVS pb 3000
Ehhh it'll sound better and cleaner and the svs app will make it a game changer over the spl150
Thanks for the reply, hopefully I can find a way to get one soon. I'm reading on your post that Klipsch is coming out with an upgraded line of SW which might explain why when I go to Klipsch online they have discontinued the SPL 150 and hopefully they may have to replace my SW with the new one and if that's the case I'll let y'all know how it does. Thanks again.
Klipsch is a great speaker company. SPEAKER company. Stick with the online subwoofer companies for the best bang for your buck, like HSU. I own a Klipsch 150, but only because it was on sale for like $500. At that price, it's a great deal. Otherwise, you're just paying for the Klipsch name.
Klipsch's sub model line may be sub-par on purpose. They would probly tell you that if you wanted proper kick, to just grab a pair of RF7-III's. Those paired w/ proper amplification, and you wont be left looking to add a sub at all.
Digging deep is 1 thing, but what about the punch? In regards to money better spent on other brands, no one else is gonna have a 15" go below $700 on the used market lol. There's barely much of a difference between 19-24 Hz cuz most music and movies won't even go that low.
I have a klipsch 125. It’s feels my medium sized room. At lower volumes. It’s more slam. That really deep bass. Which is my knock on them. But they’re not bad subs. They’re just not the go sub. For really deep bass.
I currently have a klipsch sub... it's not good. I am currently saving up for a PSA S21M IPAL. I expect to be amazed by the PSA. My brother has a SVS SB 3000 and that sub blows away my klipsch. Bought it when I was first starting off with home audio and have always regretted it.
Be prepared to be disappointed. I have a pair of La Scalas that I purchased new in 1983 and the main shortcoming is their lack of bass. I have always been disappointed that klipsch never made any subwoofer systems that were above entry level. With a pair of JTR ULF4000s, lack of bass is no longer an issue
I think you comparing Best Buy subs to SVS, Monolith, etc. is not a true comparison. R-121SW routinely sells for under $400 while the others you mentioned can sell for 2-4 times that price.
I'm not comparing anything. Every manufacturer I mentioned Sells subs between 400 and 1400 and klipsch doesn't out perform any of them. Not comparing because there is no comparison
I bought 4 r12sw @ costco for $150 each. Use them with a minidsp 2x4 hd for home theater. Once you eq them they aren't half bad. Can get a little below 20. Never had them bottom out. The are super boomy without eq. For $600 I don't think I can do much better.
Please review Klipsh RP 1600SW
Great observation - wait till you take a look at the x-overs they use in their other speakers...
Polk Audio has the same issue. Their subs are meh.
I have 2 Klipsch R-12SW 12 inch subs in my bedroom and they rock !! I have 2 PB-2000 SVS and 2 SB-1000 subs in my living room that are definitely better than the klipsch. The only thing is that I have to turn up the sub level in my Denon X3800H avr in order to get the thumping bass that I like.
need to dial them in with a DSP unit.
Yeah svs aren't boomy at all, better for music
Klipsch just doesn't care for bass heads. They tune their speakers for rock and other non-bassy content
I have four (4) R-120SW's in my living room and they sound amazing but yeah Klipsch doesn't make huge power subwoofers.
I have 3 SPL-120’s & i don’t have any issue’s with my sub’s! The bass hit’s when it need’s to. I guess i’m not a heavy bass head. Lol
i have the R-112SW now and i love it had an dali sub before dont remember the name but the R-112SW to me is rly good enough low and high bass for me
hey kpaceguy what floor Tower speaker would you prefer that sounds good besides the kef r11
There are Tons
@@Kpaceguy Kpaceguy will bluetooth floor Tower speakers connect to a 2021 sony oled tv. also what type of Tower speakers would you prefer for highs for a 65 inch tv for a small bedroom something under $1,500 dollars. I'm looking for good surround sound highs not base
@@duke4766 Yes. Go to Fluance.
okay Thanks bruh
My first home theater subs were a pair of Klpsch SPL-120's which is stubbornly bought against recommendation on the forums. Since then I've had a number of different subs: pair of HSU Research, Dayton Ultimax, Definitive technology, SVS PB 16's, and Stereo Integrity. The Klipsch were easily the worst except for the little def tech sub, but thats not to say they are bad subs. They do sound really good. They have a nice tone, and I really like them for music. There just are better options for the money especially if you prioritize things like impact and extension. Also , all the Klipsch Subs below the SPL line are budget subs. They are always sold for less than their "MSRP" and for the prices sold I would think they are decent little budget subs. Granted they sell a ton bc people who dont know any better see "Klipsch" and think it's high end, but still they may not be horrible buys for the money.
Lastly, they do have a new line of subs coming out soon. The flagship is a 16" driver in a really big box. Could be a step in the right direction. Either way, they aren't really known for their subwoofers and they know that. They seem to try put out a competent sub to finish their system's as well as some budget options and leave the serious subs to others.
I'd go Dayton over Klipsch any day.
When the do make a great sub in the past they asked a lot of money for them. I'm sure they were getting beat out by less expensive models and stopped production because of it. They have the knowledge and the steady hands to pull off a processor like that though.
This is what is weird to me. The cheapest good sub cost 500 euros... Why is single speaker so expensive??
Name of the game
Klipsch just refuses to update their subs.
They just did
@@Kpaceguy yes they did but they're starting to give about the same type of amp issues unfortunately however I will say Crutchfield is standing behind my warranty it's still very aggravating..
I have 4 Klipsch R12w subs in my setup and they are great for running a home theater in a open concept room and a solid 15 to 20 hz using a mini dsp just as long as you are putting the work in to dial them in correctly and that takes time but you can get a good low response but not in a range below 15 and I had bring my subs up to 20hz because I was rattling the house next door on either side because they could hear the bass coming from my room. So are they the best no they are not are my Polk 10s subs better than the Kilpsch R12s at this time no they are not only because of the output is only 50 watts and 200 watts for the Kilpsch and like any plate amp if you are going to over drive them they are not going to last.
Whats the best out the box system for a 12x12 room?
Klipsch
@Kpaceguy even though you not a fan of their bass?
@et8865 Yes they have good home theaters in a box with or without a sub
@Kpaceguy would u recommend if one listens to music alot on the same system?
@et8865 they all are very capable. I'd go with the one that doesn't have the atmos speakers built in. I've reviewed 2 of them
I bought - and bought back a Klipsch sub - would never touch one again. Port chuffing was horrendous. Too many much better competitors out there - you named many / and I agree. RSL makes probably the best sub $500.00 10" sub on the market. Emotiva subs are made of thick HDF - not MDF baffles and around 1" thick. And have serious kick below 20 Hz.
I don't like their speakers either / if you're into that horn loaded "V" curve sound, have at it. Not for me - tweeters always sound harsh to me, and they don't take kindly to EQ.
Klipsch subwoofers lacking any low end tactile bass response. Stay far away.
When I think of Klipsch 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Test 15" Klipsch subwoofer not 12
I've had a couple of their subs, and both the bash amps went bad, the new ones aren't good, look good, but mine had alot of port noise also. Emotiva as well, a buddy had 2, both amps went bad quickly, powered isn't the way to go, passive is, buy or build a passive and add a big crown xls-1502/2502 etc. and call it a day and will last much longer and much more versatile. I do love the Klipsch heritage line though, fortes are incredible, just not a fan of the subs.
You should learn how to adjust and use Klipsch subwoofer
They're still not good
Try the $699 RP-1400SW! That things is a monster!
Ow you are the one that klipsch have sealing, whatever that means,the 8000f have 8inch hence the name 8000
ive heard their older subs are nice the one that use the passive radiator on the back i forgot the name
I own a r112 which is the exact same as the r121 and spl120 and dual r12 and I must say the r12doesnt deep it’s ok but the r112 can dig deeper but it is for such a loud lil guy
Still rocking Velodyn sub from 96.
Yeah not hearing any glory for Klipsch subs from anyone.
WAF
Klipsch subs are pretty bad lol. They just don't go low enough and way too boomy.
Stick with the SPL150. You can find them for $700 but hell no they are not as articulate as what you are use to.
You're gonna be disappointed again Kyle, as Klipsch Subs just SUCK 🤣🤣🤣. My smallest sub is an SVS SB-2000 in my bedroom and it runs circles around that 15-inch Klipsch you mentioned
I just run 6 15" Cerwin Vega's 😂
You're a bit late mate, Klipsch has launched a new range of higher performance subs (including a 16")
From memory, youthman talked about it in 2020
Agreed.
They listened 😳
Looks like it
Could it be that Klipsch pay more attention on the speakers and leave their subs just oh hum market.
The new RP subs getting ready to come out are incredible. You will not be disappointed.
Was listening to the sound tests the other day in the Head quarters and they POUND, dig deep, and are extremely detailed. They provide more power as well. They are worthy of the reference premiere name.
yooo when tho?
@@realrelapse2476 very soon!
You got Klipsch all wrong subwoofers go deep if you have them dialed in correctly they will get really deep bass if you have them set up correctly obviously you don’t take the time to get the subwoofer dialed in correctly
Literally says on the specs sheet that they don't dig very low
Rp1600 Dead after just 6 Months I'm so pissed right Now !!getting power green light is on but NO SOUND 😫😫😫😫😫
@@TheNLHAZE press on the cone. When you press on it do you hear any kind of scratchy noise ?
@@Kpaceguy Not @ all I do believe it is the amplifier, spoke with Crutchfield this morning they gave me a decision to make they said they would send out to RP 1200 or I would have to wait up to 3 weeks for them to get the RP 1600s back in stock at that time they would switch it out free of charge that's pretty much where I stand I'm kind of scared either way but I can't say at least Crutchfield is standing behind their product.
Why waste your money buy a why not simply buy a RSL speedwoofer best $449 I’ve spent recently so good I a second unit for my living room.
I’m looking at the subwoofers you recommended (SpeedWoofer 10s MKII. I almost purchased the Klipsch SPL-100 subwoofer but doing my research. For me mostly movies and sports and music as well your thoughts?
Why would they send you anything? You don't like their products regardless.
Because they know the power of advertising on social media and I don't Hate them at all. I tell it like it is with every brand. If they stand behind their product and it's a good product, they'll be confident and I'll admit that it's good. Or vice versa.
People buy Klipsch because of the unique copper colored woofer and it sounds ok (not the best). They are almost never the best bang for your buck. but good enough for some to justify the pretty woofer. If they actually made a better subwoofer they would way overprice it. Lastly, I bet if they started manufacturing better components, at a better price, with black woofers.... nobody would buy it.
I don't like them to I'm a fan of Polk audio subs I own two psw505 which are way powerful then those and dig way lower. Which I can't stand when they have 32hz subs and 25hz lol
They're 15 in subwoofer is not any good amp goes out the wolfer goes if you have the 7 lll's get svs pb 3000
RP1600SW
Why u leave out RSL Speedwoofer MK2 as a good value subwoofer?
Can't name everything lol
I’m looking at that subwoofer over the Klipsch SPL 100. My family room is open to the kitchen area so I’m trying to see coverage for the area. I’m using them for mostly movies and sports.
Happy Birthday! ;-)
Thank you! 😃
Klipsch is trash unless your talking vintage. Alot of guys that started out with klipsch subs do not run them anymore after being introduced to a real sub. Ive pretty much owned most brands and as of right now ive settled with two monolith thx 10's. And they are quality versatile subs doing anything i ask of them, ive owned many klipsch and boomy is the word no matter where you place them, poorly designed thin cabs.
They make some good speakers no doubt about that but to someone who has had a rythmik,svs,jtr,ect their subs(yes all 11) are TRASH yes all caps.🤮
Buy there thx sub
C-310ASWI,THX-1200-SW