Yeah for sure, part 2 and 3 and 4, please!! This would make for a great recurring series. Maybe deep diving into one design aspect or era, sometimes? I only took ballet for a short year in early elementary, but the history and technical parts of it have always fascinated me. I don't even know how I found this channel but I love it!!!
This is fascinating! I would gladly sit through a much longer video. I'd love to see more of the older shoes and learn more of the shoe hacks ballerinas used in their respective eras. Please bring Prof Fishee back! And more videos like this, please!
before they hardened the shoes in the late 19th century, russian ballerinas of the 1860s would sometimes wear two pairs of shoes at once for extra support.
About the brief mention about the myth that feet were smaller in previous times, there is an interesting video from Nicole Rudolph where she talks about that. She recreates historical shoes herself and has collected antique shoes for a while and has shoes from the 1820s to the 1920s and has done a decent amount of research on construction and shapes as well as the very prevalent myth that women had smaller feet historically. They actually did not! However, the shaping and styling is often very good at making big feet look small and the many shoes in museums do not represent the sizes that were very available at the time. You might enjoy her video from a few months ago, where she shows her shoe collection, talking about the transition from different styles and structures and another a bit further back where she talks about her experience of wearing her own handmade historical shoes over the last decade and another from 10 months ago which is totally about the myth of small feet "back then." This, of course, doesn't mean some women didn't have very small feet. Some still do. But some also had very large feet...I know my great grandmother, born in 1902, wore a modern US size 10 in a wide width (I don't know what her size was in the early 1900s, because the sizing was crazy back then and even varied from maker to maker) and was only about 5 feet tall. Anyways, thought you might be interested.
This makes a lot of sense from a purely historical standpoint: a lot of historical textiles that are extant now are super fancy stuff made for upper class "important" people, and we have way fewer "everyday" working class garments, and that's because "everyday" things were literally worn Every Day and they were worn so much that they were either made into another piece of clothing or simply thrown out. Much like pointe shoes! The ones we still have have are the ones that were worn less. I'm not trying to make a correlation between upper class and small feet or anything, just that small feet were "on trend" and so that could be why we have many examples of tiny shoes.
On top of that its the smaller articles of clothing that survive were in reality more children's or teens clothing, because children and teens would outgrew their clothes and therefore wore those items of clothing less thus allowing those pieces to survive history. Actual adult sized clothes and shoes were worn daily till it was no longer functional. It can be considered a sort of survivorship bias since we can only examing the items of clothing that survived which just happened to be smaller.
Thank you so much for this. This video was wonderful! Dr. Fisher is so knowledgeable (and so are you, Josephine)! I'd love for her to visit your channel again.
Hello! I never did ballet, but I wish I was able. But I love your channel and the content. Thank you SO MUCH!!! I will watch your videos forever!!! Love the insight, education and love of ballet.
This has to be the most interesting thing I’ve watched on UA-cam!!! I would love to see a whole documentary series going through shoe styles of each era in ballet and now the shoes have changed!!!
You were both so great to watch. I'd happily sit through a full documentary about this (how fun would that be? You could film on location. Someone sponsor this dream!)
I’ll be completely honest. I don’t dance ballet and have never really seen ballet…but I have been binge watching your channel. So interesting, informative, and most of all fun. Thank you!
Oh my goodness am I enchanted. As usual Josephine your videos are priceless. They are full of facts and information on ballet and ballet shoes thank you finger ❤️.
So fascinating!!! thank you for this video! it’s amazing to see how pointe shoes began, and obviously the huge transformation from then to now, as ballet and pointe work has become more and more demanding.
I thoroughly enjoyed this!! Thank you so much for highlighting this delightful collection, and equally, for highlighting the need to reform certain aspects of ballet.
i'm surprised she didn't touch on the stylistic differences of the grave/demi-charactere/grotesque styles which predicated the national styles of france and italy, which in turn allowed for the development of pointe work. so many of us focus on ballet technique being a single entity, but we tend to forget that it used to have three (four if you go back far enough) distinct forms with distinct technical challenges. pointe work would have never existed without the intense training regimen of the italian grotesque school of ballet (little wonder that marie's father was italian...)
@@jenniferthamrin3887 the two things are intrinsically connected as you can't have support-free point work without some form of specialized or altered shoe. the shoes and technique evolved together :)
Absolutely loved learning about the history of the shoes in her collection. When y'all were talking about pointe shoe companies making shoes for dancers of color I remember back when I was younger dancing en pointe (I think 2006) having to pancake my shoes I didn't let them dry completely before I started dancing in them and stained the marley. Thankfully companies now make shoes in my skin tone so I don't have to pancake anymore.
Great video! That was so interesting, I hope you make more videos with Professor Fisher and other ballet historians. Would love to hear more about her collection and experiences!
I can’t remember the book that talked about how it was a good party if you wore a hole in your shoe. Looking at those Regency shoes I could see how easy it would be. Not a ballet dancer but I love your videos. As a size 9.5, I always thought that my feet would be too big anyhow.
If you ever did want to get into ballet, your feet definitely aren’t too big! I wear an 8 in pointe shoes (a 10 in street shoes) and the company I get my shoes from go up to a 9, which is an 11 in street shoes!
This was amazing. Thank you so much for doing this video. I saw Karen Kain dancing Symphony in C and her talent and stage presence was larger than life. What sacrifices women made to make this art as glorious as it is. Thanks again.
SO AMAZING that she has a pair of the legendary and my favorite ballerina Maximova’s pointe shoes!!! So very close to having her as a teacher when I was in Russia, but alas her heath had already taken a turn. I was blessed to be taught by the equally legendary and beautiful Nina Sorokina though before she passed away as well. ❤️ Also, for years I did not have elastics on my heals due to all the wonderful Russian teachers I was blessed to have her in the states. It just wasn’t necessary. Also, toe pads once my feet were strong enough were a thing of the past (Still dance that way sometimes better control in feeling the floor).
Theres actually a point shoes that lasts longer by the platform and the wings made out of a certain plastic and the shank you can replace with a different one which makes it cheaper and last longer
I spotted Karen Kain's autographed shoes right away. I met her when I was little, and my family visited the Royal Alexandra Theatre stage door, after a Christmas panto that starred Karen and her husband, Ross Petty. That panto was imported from England. Soon, Ross would produce pantos himself, and would become Canada's foremost panto producer.
I’m not a dancer nor am I at all connected to the dance world at all but I watch all of your videos 😂 I’m so fascinated by ballet/pointe & wish I would’ve danced as a child. I don’t have the feet for it though. Keep up the great work! 💜
My first point shoes in the early 90's came to such a narrow point. By the time I was in college I was able to get capezios in a wide box. It was like a revolution!
aha! so *that's* why I had problems finding pointe shoes to fit when I first tried in 2016... I wear a size 43 shoe normally. Visiting NYC from Melbourne and Grishko had nothing to fit, Sansha offered me black pointes (not for my very first pair thankyou!) and I ended up with GMs that were never quite right and were way too strong for an overweight adult beginner. :-( Should have come to you Josephine!
Wonderful video and so interesting!! But, this could/should have been a lot longer. I kept having to pause to read the captions and try to get a better look at the shoes - that's what we're here for!
That was fascinating. Wish it had been longer. Would have loved to have scene and heard more stories about the shoes in her collection
I agree! I would love to hear about all of them. I
Yeah for sure, part 2 and 3 and 4, please!! This would make for a great recurring series. Maybe deep diving into one design aspect or era, sometimes?
I only took ballet for a short year in early elementary, but the history and technical parts of it have always fascinated me. I don't even know how I found this channel but I love it!!!
Agreed - this was so interesting!
I love seeing people nerd out over the little things that make their hearts happy
Please bring this sweet woman back and do more history lessons for us! I am a huge history buff and I loved this so much!
This is fascinating! I would gladly sit through a much longer video. I'd love to see more of the older shoes and learn more of the shoe hacks ballerinas used in their respective eras. Please bring Prof Fishee back! And more videos like this, please!
before they hardened the shoes in the late 19th century, russian ballerinas of the 1860s would sometimes wear two pairs of shoes at once for extra support.
This was *fascinating*. Thank you Josephine and Professor Fisher.
Look at her hand movements and arm expression. Once a ballerina, always a ballerina. Thank you for the wonderful history.
Josephine looks she's in heaven with that collection.
You should find more ballet historians to Collab with! This was great!
About the brief mention about the myth that feet were smaller in previous times, there is an interesting video from Nicole Rudolph where she talks about that. She recreates historical shoes herself and has collected antique shoes for a while and has shoes from the 1820s to the 1920s and has done a decent amount of research on construction and shapes as well as the very prevalent myth that women had smaller feet historically. They actually did not! However, the shaping and styling is often very good at making big feet look small and the many shoes in museums do not represent the sizes that were very available at the time. You might enjoy her video from a few months ago, where she shows her shoe collection, talking about the transition from different styles and structures and another a bit further back where she talks about her experience of wearing her own handmade historical shoes over the last decade and another from 10 months ago which is totally about the myth of small feet "back then." This, of course, doesn't mean some women didn't have very small feet. Some still do. But some also had very large feet...I know my great grandmother, born in 1902, wore a modern US size 10 in a wide width (I don't know what her size was in the early 1900s, because the sizing was crazy back then and even varied from maker to maker) and was only about 5 feet tall. Anyways, thought you might be interested.
This makes a lot of sense from a purely historical standpoint: a lot of historical textiles that are extant now are super fancy stuff made for upper class "important" people, and we have way fewer "everyday" working class garments, and that's because "everyday" things were literally worn Every Day and they were worn so much that they were either made into another piece of clothing or simply thrown out. Much like pointe shoes! The ones we still have have are the ones that were worn less. I'm not trying to make a correlation between upper class and small feet or anything, just that small feet were "on trend" and so that could be why we have many examples of tiny shoes.
On top of that its the smaller articles of clothing that survive were in reality more children's or teens clothing, because children and teens would outgrew their clothes and therefore wore those items of clothing less thus allowing those pieces to survive history. Actual adult sized clothes and shoes were worn daily till it was no longer functional. It can be considered a sort of survivorship bias since we can only examing the items of clothing that survived which just happened to be smaller.
This is amazing. I would have happily sat thru a much, much longer video - please don’t be afraid to put out a long video!
Oh, I loved this!!! I’m definitely game to here more ballet history, so please keep em coming!!!!
Absolutely excellent. I could have listened for an hour.
Professor Fisher is so sweet, I would love to watch more videos with her!
I found this historical discussion of pointe shoes with Professor Fisher fascinating! 💗 I would love hear and learn more.
Thank you so much for this. This video was wonderful! Dr. Fisher is so knowledgeable (and so are you, Josephine)! I'd love for her to visit your channel again.
For future fun. I'm all on board with a longer video. This was cool!
Hello! I never did ballet, but I wish I was able. But I love your channel and the content. Thank you SO MUCH!!! I will watch your videos forever!!! Love the insight, education and love of ballet.
This was amazing. Being able to see all the shifts in practical technology, craft, and adaptation is so neat.
I love love fashion history and ballet so this was a huge treat!
This has to be the most interesting thing I’ve watched on UA-cam!!! I would love to see a whole documentary series going through shoe styles of each era in ballet and now the shoes have changed!!!
How absolutely fascinating!! I will definitely be investing in her books too!
You were both so great to watch. I'd happily sit through a full documentary about this (how fun would that be? You could film on location. Someone sponsor this dream!)
This was fascinating. Love seeing the history and evolution of the pointe shoes.
Invite her back! This was fascinating.
Please do an hour long documentary on this !🙏
Would love to see more of these!
If you ever danced in Capezio Niccolinis in a narrow width as I did, you felt like you were balancing on a quarter. Lol
I’ll be completely honest. I don’t dance ballet and have never really seen ballet…but I have been binge watching your channel. So interesting, informative, and most of all fun. Thank you!
Please post full video!! Don’t care if it’s super long :) love it!!
This is probably my favorite video! More history and Collabs like this please!! Would love to see you interview Chloe angyal
Oh my goodness am I enchanted. As usual Josephine your videos are priceless. They are full of facts and information on ballet and ballet shoes thank you finger ❤️.
I love all of your videos, but this is hands-down my favorite!! Thank you for that dip into shoe history! Those tiny shoes blow my mind!!!
Hi Josephine I love ballet 🩰 sooo much! And when I started watching you I felt like I could do anything you inspire me! Love you, from a fan
@Crazy child Josie really?
Okay unrelated but she has the most gorgeous speaking voice ever 😍
I loved this, so fascinating. If you have an extended version where the individual shoes are talked about in more detail, it would be great to see it.
So fascinating!!! thank you for this video! it’s amazing to see how pointe shoes began, and obviously the huge transformation from then to now, as ballet and pointe work has become more and more demanding.
Completely fascinating! Thank you ladies. 🥰😘😊😊😊
I thoroughly enjoyed this!! Thank you so much for highlighting this delightful collection, and equally, for highlighting the need to reform certain aspects of ballet.
I’d love to see more of you two together, this was my fav video in a long time
I would love to see more historical dance content from this channel! Especially from this collection.😁🩰
Love this! Would love to have another video with Professor Fisher!!
I collect vintage shoes too, it's so great to see what others collect!
This is incredible! Please more!!!
Wow, please make another one four times longer!
This is so interesting! I was recently looking into historical ballet shoes to see how they progressed, so this video is perfect!
i'm surprised she didn't touch on the stylistic differences of the grave/demi-charactere/grotesque styles which predicated the national styles of france and italy, which in turn allowed for the development of pointe work.
so many of us focus on ballet technique being a single entity, but we tend to forget that it used to have three (four if you go back far enough) distinct forms with distinct technical challenges.
pointe work would have never existed without the intense training regimen of the italian grotesque school of ballet (little wonder that marie's father was italian...)
I think it's because they are focusing more on the evolution of the shoes rather than pointe work for this video :)
@@jenniferthamrin3887 the two things are intrinsically connected as you can't have support-free point work without some form of specialized or altered shoe. the shoes and technique evolved together :)
This is so absolutely fascinating! Thank you to both of you for sharing, I love learning some history!
THE FASHION HISTORIAN IN ME IS LOVING THISSSSS
Absolutely loved learning about the history of the shoes in her collection. When y'all were talking about pointe shoe companies making shoes for dancers of color I remember back when I was younger dancing en pointe (I think 2006) having to pancake my shoes I didn't let them dry completely before I started dancing in them and stained the marley. Thankfully companies now make shoes in my skin tone so I don't have to pancake anymore.
Great video! That was so interesting, I hope you make more videos with Professor Fisher and other ballet historians. Would love to hear more about her collection and experiences!
Truly fascinating, what a treat to see some of this collection. I’m definitely putting the book on my wish list for my upcoming birthday.
I wish you would have made the video longer, it was so fascinating!
please go over 10 min, it helps the algorithm so much and we would all love longer content. 🙏🏻
I was hoping she’d tell us about every spore in her collection the way Josephine does any time she sees a pointe shoe. I love this! Give me more!
On of the best videos!
Fascinating!
I can’t remember the book that talked about how it was a good party if you wore a hole in your shoe. Looking at those Regency shoes I could see how easy it would be.
Not a ballet dancer but I love your videos. As a size 9.5, I always thought that my feet would be too big anyhow.
If you ever did want to get into ballet, your feet definitely aren’t too big! I wear an 8 in pointe shoes (a 10 in street shoes) and the company I get my shoes from go up to a 9, which is an 11 in street shoes!
Love it!! Thank you ladies, what a great informative show. I love the history so fascinating! 🙏🏼💗🤩
This was amazing. Thank you so much for doing this video. I saw Karen Kain dancing Symphony in C and her talent and stage presence was larger than life. What sacrifices women made to make this art as glorious as it is. Thanks again.
I love this so much! Please make this a series! 🥰💖
More ballet history please! Love this
This was fantastic and fascinating! Thank you so much!❤️
This was so interesting! I must read more about the history of ballet. Thank you so much.
YES!!!!!!! NEW POINTE SHOP VIDEO!!! FINALLY!!!!!!
Hahaha the captions introduced Josephine as "I'm juicy being".
It would be really cool to see a video about some of the innovative new types of pointe shoes like the Nike shoe and the ones based on the Dutch clog
SO AMAZING that she has a pair of the legendary and my favorite ballerina Maximova’s pointe shoes!!! So very close to having her as a teacher when I was in Russia, but alas her heath had already taken a turn. I was blessed to be taught by the equally legendary and beautiful Nina Sorokina though before she passed away as well. ❤️ Also, for years I did not have elastics on my heals due to all the wonderful Russian teachers I was blessed to have her in the states. It just wasn’t necessary. Also, toe pads once my feet were strong enough were a thing of the past (Still dance that way sometimes better control in feeling the floor).
Nice plug for Final Bow For Yellowface. Check out their site, and the book is a worthwhile read.
Theres actually a point shoes that lasts longer by the platform and the wings made out of a certain plastic and the shank you can replace with a different one which makes it cheaper and last longer
Love this! Awesome and thanks.
A Karen Kain fan!! I love her so much! Josephine you should come visit the national ballet of Canada!!
This was so great; I wish the video were longer!
Omg I just started collecting vintage pointe shoes this summer. I’m in love!
Absolutely amazing
Fantastic! Thanks so much for sharing!
Ahhhh this was so fascinating! Love it!
She is so passionate
This was such a great video! Please make more like this 🙏🏻
I spotted Karen Kain's autographed shoes right away. I met her when I was little, and my family visited the Royal Alexandra Theatre stage door, after a Christmas panto that starred Karen and her husband, Ross Petty. That panto was imported from England. Soon, Ross would produce pantos himself, and would become Canada's foremost panto producer.
This is fascinating ❣️
Thank you, this was incredibly interesting.
Very interesting history lesson. I hope one of your fans can get her the shoes she is missing from her collection.
I’m not a dancer nor am I at all connected to the dance world at all but I watch all of your videos 😂 I’m so fascinated by ballet/pointe & wish I would’ve danced as a child. I don’t have the feet for it though. Keep up the great work! 💜
I loved this. It was so interesting, please could you do more together?
Thank you so much for this!
This was such an amazing and interesting video!! Thank you!
Such a cool video idea 😍 thank you for this, so interesting! 🤗
Wow!!! That was really interesting!!!
Great video. Such interesting information.
My first point shoes in the early 90's came to such a narrow point. By the time I was in college I was able to get capezios in a wide box. It was like a revolution!
more of this please!!
aha! so *that's* why I had problems finding pointe shoes to fit when I first tried in 2016... I wear a size 43 shoe normally. Visiting NYC from Melbourne and Grishko had nothing to fit, Sansha offered me black pointes (not for my very first pair thankyou!) and I ended up with GMs that were never quite right and were way too strong for an overweight adult beginner. :-( Should have come to you Josephine!
Love it
Wonderful video and so interesting!! But, this could/should have been a lot longer. I kept having to pause to read the captions and try to get a better look at the shoes - that's what we're here for!
Very interesting! I’d love to see more content like this.
I don't dance or even undesrand ballet but I'm watching every video from this channel 😅
Loved this!
I always wanted to be a ballerina, but I was overweight and never thought I could do it. Then I hurt my back and can hardly even walk.
So interesting!
Splendid.