DJ Jon804 Remixes no. No we’re not. Pusha’s a better rapper he’s always been a better rapper. Just cause someone makes better songs, don’t make someone a better rapper. Wayne has a better Ear.
Greatness? Maybe i'm east coast bias asf lol i'll admit to it, but i was not rockin with a majority of what he dropped. N people roast these new artists as if Wayne, Soulja Boy and Lil B aren't directly responsible for birthing these niggas 😂 they r literally their father. N people be like they changed the game. Yeaaa thats fact.. But, was it for good?
"I might SEND this to the mixtape, Weezy". He was saying that he might send that D.O.A track to Weezy on his mixtape and Weezy did use it in his mixtape afterwards.
I can't argue that. He's been around for more than two decades so he has some bangers. But he peaked around the 4th Carter. After that he burnt himself out.
Man last 5 years Wayne has still been spittin shit just ppl be sleep. Fat Albert, glory, street chainz, Mona Lisa, Sftw2, and the Verse from SMUCKERS but ppl 💤 on what they don’t kno
@@Icepack00 verse from believer, d6 reloaded, free weezy album, his verse on "like dat; partynext door ft Jeremiah and lil wayne" dawggggg wayne dropped the hardest shit and that wasnt even carter 5
@@jonahxsmitty Pusha T never paid for features everybody knows that baby was paying for features for Lil Wayne to make him hot he was not the front-runner of the group it was Juvenile and BG nobody wanted to do songs with Lil Wayne baby made him pop because of the incidents that was going on between Juvenile and BG he lost his FrontRunner he had nobody left in left in the group Turk was in jail he sucked as a rapper so they Lil Wayne P just paid his way in and everybody think he's dope from that he's the king of Mumble rap bro
False. Kendrick, chance, drake, meechy, soulho, tyler, ak the savior, zombie juice, j.i.d., cole, Denzel curry and the whole scene you been listening since 2008 to Now. Stop
Only reason Lil Wayne is considered a goat is because he applies to people who don’t give a shit about lyrics and lil Wayne has better bars than most of the trash rappers they’re listening to. Then they get their dicks in a knot and claim he’s the goat. He’s not he’s trash. Only reason Pusha T isn’t considered a goat is because he appeals to more hardcore hip hop fans who appreciate lyrics and bars and understand that as good as Pusha is he’s not as good as the top tier rappers he’s close but not there yet. Lil Wayne however is not remotely close to top 50 rappers much less goat
Bro Wayne's prime and peak was second to none (comparable with guys like Jay and Pac). You compare his prime as far as content, features, albums, mixtapes, acclaim, sales, impact (all of the "Lil's" today are just Waynes that can't rap). Name an artist that was at the top of the mainstream game and underground game at the same time. JUST STOP and i love Push btw!
kris jones If you believe that shit your dumb😂Wayne is the same dude that made a song spitting for almost an hour,using every rap he written ever just so he could Freestyle every song he made after that. Gillie Tha one need Ghost writers 😂
Lil Wayne's most overrated rapper even at his Peak he had a Ghost Rider there is no way you suck and then all of a sudden you're the best rapper get out of here
@@TonyMasters27 Virginia is barely the south. It was a confederate state but Black people in Virginia have east coast culture. Louisiana is nothing but southern culture across the board.
Push is one of my all time favs but Lil Wayne’s catalog is alone greatness but lil wayne used to rip people’s own songs and make them his and out rapped everybody
So did (does) push. Push is a better rapper tbh. When you realize that every line is a double entendre, it hits different. I love Wayne though. He’s in my top10. But push is in my top5
@@ifailatblackops1 5? Let’s see….Carter, Carter2 & 3…so that’s 3. Then he got Carter 4, which had some classic records like “6 foot 7 foot,” but the Carter 4 def ain’t a classic. He only has 3 classics. But if you wanna add Carter 4, then he has 4. Pusha has Lord Willin…classic! Hell Hath No Fury…classic! My Name is My Name…classic! Daytona….bona fide classic! It’s Almost Dry was on the top of every top album list last year, and it’s nominated for best rap album of the year at this year’s Grammys. That’s bout to be a classic. Just because YOU don’t listen to Pusha or missed out on the Clipse, doesn’t mean he doesn’t have classics.
Right. This shouldn't even be an argument. Pusha t dissed a pop rapper and now everyone is on his dick. Most of his music has always been shit. One good diss track doesn't change that
Ewarton Charlton idk you dont have to come from a struggle to make good and cathcy Music. I see where your coming from though. Lil Wayne is one of my favorite rappers but i know there are a lot of rappers better than him. He along with the game and eminem are the rappers i grew up on. I dont really listen to any of Them anymore. Now i like rappers like pusha t, mez, ab soul, schoolboy w, Anderson paak, q tip, andre 3000, nas, kendrick and People like that more
Ewarton Charlton i would say he has Cult classics but i would consider carta 2 a classic however i dont Think he is the goat either. There are Way better artists with Way better albums
To even compare lil Wayne to pusha T is criminal. Wayne impact, discography, Classics, the way every single rapper in the game got lil in front of their name, how they all sound like Wayne and when u add the fact he put Drake and Nicky on it’s not even a debate.
As a middle eastern, it breaks my heart the amount of disrespect to Wayne. Wayne has always been at the top of the rap game. Pusha is a great rapper but his influence/impact to the rap game is not even comparable to Wayne's
Eric Cui mainstream? He put out 100 mixtapes and every song he does is freestyled he doesn’t write anything down that’s his impact he saved rap when people claimed hip hop was dead he was holding it down while everybody wasn’t doing shit.
@Ay AyI know when I popped it in and heard that first "Cash Money Young money, mother fuck the other side/ they can fuck wit us if they want, I bring em homicide!" that that was going to be a classic
When Pusha predicted the whole Cash Money and Wayne outcome. That shit bring chills to my gains. If you a Wayne fan you have to answer to Exdous. 🤷🏿♂️
That’s not surprising tho, baby always been accused of not paying niggas, Wayne is in the top 10 of some of the best Lyricist Eminem, Jay, even pusha’s boss Kanye... wayne in his prime destroyed anything he touched.
Matt Kinsman What? First off, if they are credited, then they aren’t “ghost” writers. Second, just because they are credited with lyrics doesn’t mean they wrote the actual lyrics. It just means they helped with an idea or something like that. Look at rappers who definitely write their own lyrics 100% of the time, other people are credited on the lyrics all the time
Pax Americana no, they’re usually credited with helping with the hooks if that’s what they “helped” with. If a rapper writes 100% of his own shit that means they wrote 100% lol. Why would someone else get credit? Quentin was listed on a few Drake songs, yet everyone said that’s Drakes ghost writer 🤦🏻♂️
Nope cause he was still droppin music and mixtapes just not his carter 5 album, which was trash, so its a mute point, d6 was fire tho, and so was glory
@@littv1610 i alreadybsaid d6 wasnt garbage, that was heat, carter 5...straight trash, but the point im making is, wayne was still releasing music even with the bs goin on with birdman, he couldnt drop a whole album, thats why we got carter 5 , 5 years later, but he was still droppin music, wayne pretty much fell off around 2014/15
Nah that shit was ass. Wayne stop being good after No Ceilings and C4 was the end of the music being worth listening too. His Maybach Music VI verse ass.
@@malwd6321 Wayne has never not had a album go platinum within the first week. I think lights out or 500 degrees went gold and it's considered Wayne's worst album.
Pen game and skill set there's no way Wayne can ever come close to Pusha's level. Now in terms of success in their careers, forget comparing the two, Wayne has had one of the most successful careers of any rapper that's done it in terms of sales, hits and having one of the greatest runs. But we're talking pure skill set and who's the better rapper and Push takes that one by miles.
@@SeanSmith-yq6kz Catalogue wise no, Push can't see Wayne. Waynes best Project vs Push best project is subjective and for me I'm going with Push but I won't argue with someone who says Wayne or Carter 3 vs whatever, I can respect it, however, pen wise.. Anyone that even thinks it's a debate are crazy. Push is far superior in terms of skill set and pen game. That's no disrespect to Wayne but it is what it is.
@@11bornrich my boy for you to say Wayne can't fuck with pusha T shows me your lack knowledge when it comes to Wayne so I can't take your opinion seriously cause Wayne from 06-11 Wayne was the best rapper no question pusha T never was even top 5 my boy you need to stop it skill set and pen wise Wayne is vastly superior to pusha T and it's honestly not even a competition and I like pusha T
@@courtneyseward8631 right...his flow and style changed when they paid those philly rappers to come hang around those studios with Wayne...Gillie and Philly's Most Wanted...Then magically his hooks and big songs started popping with Drake in the wings...I still enjoy Wayne, but can't dismiss he had help
Wayne is way more versatile, has more hits, and has better projects than push. Easily wayne. Wayne influenced a generation because of his rapping. Wayne has too many flows
@@PopularNobody didn't say that sir Mike said the only person that could possibly beat him in a 1 v 1 is kobe cuz Kobe studied him Tim duncan,hakeem, dirk,
@Byron Payne the purpose of passing the torch is to make the torch burn brighter hypothetically. you don't pass the bitch for them to burn the same or worse.
@@littv1610 Lupe has numerous songs that have charted throughout his career. The fact that you can only name his most popular one tells me you were born in the 2000s. Nevermind that, though. I can name you at least 20 Lupe songs that lyrically kills anything your favorite rapper has written or ever will write, but I know you're just gonna continue staying in your mumble rap bubble, so no point in even bothering.
Ewarton Charlton Wayne don’t got classic material?? Carter 2, Carter 3, No ceilings, Da Drought 3, Dedication 2 and 3?? Are all Classic projects. Your the one that needs testing bro wtf
I can’t even believe this is a question. Pusha T is hard and has some dope features, but Joe hit it right on the head: Wayne is not from this world. He would rap circles around Pusha T any day, whether he’s putting out music or not. He’d be high as hell the whole time and still out-rap almost anyone that’s ever done it.
No chance... Pen game wise no. Wayne's always been basic. Success wise absolutely. Most rappers can't see him in terms of success. In terms of pen he won't even crack top 50. In terms of greatest he won't crack top 30 neither will Push but people are overrating Wayne now that he's fallen off. When he was popping he was the most trash rapper alive at one point to everyone with the most basic shit. Now all of a sudden his old shit is gold..
@@puneetsharma101 I've heard pretty much all of Waynes best work, funny enough I've heard 10x more of Wayne's material both albums and mixtapes than I have of Pusha's.. Never said he doesn't have dope work, I'm simply saying him at his height in terms of skill set it isn't better than Push at his height. Whether you want to talk about tha carter albums, dedication, no ceilings or whatever it just isn't better sorry.
@@deontajohnson5537 Gtfoh I know you ain't talking about that stupid Bathing Apes debacle 🤔. Pusha don't own the Bathing Apes brand it's not 😂. Wayne don't got writers you need to show more proof than the fairy tales that Gillie Da Kid has been spreading 🙃
Wayne said that he was best rapper alive and at his apex, he backed it up and made it a serious discussion and carried a label on his back.... I gotta give it to him
I don't even want to hear from ppl who think C3 Wayne was in his prime. Yeah he was at his "peak popularity", but he rapped way better on C1 and C2. I also don't want to hear from anyone who's NEVER spat a freestyle while the Grindin' beat was being done on a lunch table or locker. FOH!
Carter 3 was his most commercial album carter 3 and dedication 3 made the anticipation crazy plus carter 3 delivered. It’s in my top 3 of all time what’s a classic push album?
@@wooskionehundred1788 I count the Clipse album, Lord Willin' and He'll Hath No Fury for Push. If we're talking solo, I think Daytona will be considered a classic in the near future. For Wayne I would consider The Block is Hot, C1, and C2 as super classics.
@@beeazy2847 Because Carter 3 is when "they" finally found out about Wayne, late as hell. He was lyrically on a decline by then. His song making was better. His bars though?....Ehh....
Kensane True but to be fair, Carter 2 didn't have AMilli on it, now that I think about it. That wordplay in the 1st verse is underrated, even while most people know the words by heart. But as a whole, Carter 2 was more authentic.
Weezy is clearly more prolific than is pusha though I love them both. Wayne is the mixtape King unquestionably. Pusha is remarkably precise but Dwayne is incredible off the dome, in terms of sheer rap skill Wayne is definitely better
Talent is all that matters. Every other statistic is weak, G.O.O.D. Music has always bested Cash Money, every step. It's all in the name, in the music industry you either make cash money or good music 🖖 The greats make both, Wayne & Push are both greats just diff levels 📊 If you know you know 🤷
Well Push's verse on that Wu Tang soundtrack album is damn sure better than M's, Death wish, no love, or any of his other best features. And Wayne is too inconsistent in his mixtapes for them to come close to any clipse/push album, while his albums can't even hit the same highs
"Real Gs move in silence like lasagna" ....bro, Wayne had some niggas in confusion for 2 solid years with that bar. Disrespectful ass question. Pusha is still rapping like every song is Mr. Me Too.
Stop playing around bro Wayne is hands down top 5 that’s like taking nas out because he has gone in different directions with music that doesn’t take away what he’s done.
Pusha T is better imo... Revisit his Clipse catalogue, especially Hell Hath No Fury. Wayne peaked with Carter 3 and steadily went downhill since. He had his mixtape run but it was his flow that carried him not really his lyricism. Wayne has more flows but Pusha has the better bars.
@@kyonsenzu8799 I respect your opinion but I disagree. I think his flow and just swagger is what carries him. A lot of his punchlines that had my broskis going crazy were simple AF. Alotta forced double entendres. Shit like: "Get girls wet like backs" "I'm hot like dogs" “Had a phone in jail, that’s a cell phone” “Been eating my girl and she’s so sweet, I got cavities” “I’m a made nigga, I should dust something” If those are clever bars to you, then we just disagree.
Cause its not worth it. Lil Wayne just said 2 lines about Pusha, didnt even make a full distract. In the Hip Hop world, Wayne was like a lion compared to Pusha T who was ike a housecat to him. And Wayne isnt a battle rapper
Know-Ledge _Y.L.G. Nobody's a battle rapper until they get into a rap battle. And Wayne did make a full diss track toward Pusha T. It was just so trash, that we like to forget about it.
@@beeazy2847 Battle rappers are the rappers who make diss tracks. Thats not Wayne style, he's not that type of rapper. Wayne is the apper who competes with you by making better albums, better mixtapes, better features, or doing a better verse than you, and making more hits and more sells. He's not a diss/battle rapper. Otherwise, Wayne got the better arvantage in everything else So even tho " Ghoulish " is barely a legit disdtrack. That was the first time Wayne ever dissed or took shots at anybody for a full rap song.
Ill Individuals he didn’t leave earth on 18 wheeler at all, dope verse but if you call that leaving earth then what is black thought flex freestyle, lupe fiasco mural, canibus poet laureate et cetera? They must come from a completely different universe if 18 wheeler = leaving earth.
Getaye Reigns quote me parts ftom mural where he wasnt spazzing out, he didn’t hold a consistent message throughout the whole song or anything but he painted a vivid picture throughout the whole joint of his own life and growing up in chicago, literally a mural. The lyrical display in that song is mindnumbing
@@iosinc1169 No, but did Pusha ever put out as many trash verses and albums as Wayne did? Yall only count the good like Wayne doesn't have terrible material as well, and I'm not just talking about before his prime.
But Wayne wasn't writing his own stuff in his prime... nevermind your too young. Everybody know he didn't write his own stuff and he was kissing niggaz and they was burning bridges. It was a mess but the mixtape was great tho. Are you sure you was old enough to know what was going on back then
LET'S STOP ACTING LIKE WAYNE EVER FELL OFF. GLORY, LIKE A MAN, VIZINE, SELSUN BLUE, LONDON ROADS, HOLLYWEEZY, FAT ALBERT VERSE, DEDICATION 6, FWA, C5, SFTW2 ETC? He's been consistent, you guys just stopped listening.
You telling me you can't hear the difference between Wayne's writers? He's so different because his teams are different. Wayne is obviously Gilly during "Prime Wayne". Gilly had that ROC flow that EVERYONE was trying to copy, that Jay Z invented. You wasn't there. Jay invented Prime Wayne's flow, and Wayne obviously dropped "wobble dee wobble dee Wayne" and hired a shooter who could give him that Hov style. Then after that era, you can hear the obvious change in writers. Now it's like he has kids submitting cheeky punchlines to a spreadsheet and he just glues them together into rhymes. I'm not mad at it. Every other genre has writers including Beyonce. But Push is writing every one of those lines. Don't @ me unless you actually write rhymes. Anyone who writes WELL knows what I'm saying is true. If it's not, then wayne just literally learned how to KILL out of nowhere, then FORGOT out of no where. That's not a natural phenomenon. People usually get comfy and don't change once they find something that works. Look at Jada for example, same flow. hell, LOOK AT PUSHA lol.
Lil Wayne is the better rapper when it comes to Push, Push is a monster off top but he doesn't come that close to Wayne and Push is better than ALOT of other rappers lyrically, Wayne is just THAT GOOD as to why ht's not that much of a contest. Oh and btw, Drake lost that battle with Push. But Drake is still Drake, same way how Jay took an L to Nas but it didn't hurt him because of who he already was prior to that feud.
@Ewarton Charlton ok so take the content out of it. Because "child" millionaire content is nothing to you and coke content is nothing to someone else. Strictly rapping ability, are you still taking push over wayne?
Ewarton charlton so just because u can’t relate to wayne means push is a better rapper? I fuck with both of them but what else does push rap about besides the dope game? Just like you said about wayne 99% of push shit is about the same shit lol
@Ewarton Charlton Wayne could still out rap pusha any day. Wayne doesn't need to write his verses, matter of fact he doesn't even write most of his features and they still carry. And if we talking about overall influence in rap, the only thing pusha known for is the Drake diss. Wayne honestly beats pusha in every category there is in hip hop.
So I guess that's why Lil Wayne never wrote a good diss trackin response to push? You literally have no idea what you're talking about. And I'm almost positive little Wayne doesn't write his songs and the one he does right repeat the same word every f****** 2 seconds
ROKINROD23 Your opinion on the work has nothing to do with him being active. If he put out the tapes then he's active, whether you think they're good or not.
A lot of y’all either forgot or too young to remember the greatness Lil Wayne put on from 04 - 2010 !
DJ Jon804 Remixes no. No we’re not. Pusha’s a better rapper he’s always been a better rapper. Just cause someone makes better songs, don’t make someone a better rapper.
Wayne has a better Ear.
Wayne is a better artist... Pusha is a better MC.
Greatness? Maybe i'm east coast bias asf lol i'll admit to it, but i was not rockin with a majority of what he dropped. N people roast these new artists as if Wayne, Soulja Boy and Lil B aren't directly responsible for birthing these niggas 😂 they r literally their father. N people be like they changed the game. Yeaaa thats fact.. But, was it for good?
@@757reaper truth
Exactly
I don’t know who more disrespected Wayne or Kobe smh
BOOTED Faccctttsssss
Wayne is the Kobe of hip hop
That Kobe song he made 🔥🔥🔥
Ikr
Forreal!!! Wayne is top 10 ever
“I might turn into the mixtape weezy” - Jay Z. Even he knew how good Wayne was
Facts Even jay pays Homage. It’s just a bunch of East coast bias in the comments
"I might SEND this to the mixtape, Weezy". He was saying that he might send that D.O.A track to Weezy on his mixtape and Weezy did use it in his mixtape afterwards.
Facts!
Mixtape weezy nice his albums tho are trash wayne not a good album maker carter 1 and 2 the rest is eh
Factuals ❗❗💯
“But Wayne is from another planet”. Couldn’t have said it any better
ALEX Wayne doesn’t write shit.
Wayne is trash. Eminem killed him on both songs they were on together
Jordan Bigeau to be fair Eminem kills pretty much everyone thats on a track with him.
@@JBigeau nah not really.
Jordan Bigeau I never heard that before in my life
Joe wins arguments cos people just accept the conditions of the debate 😂
This ALL DAY!
Nia R. Joe was definitely a lawyer in another life
And Parks just agrees with everything Joe says...
You damn fucking right!!!!!
Joe just spins words to make his point of view seem like the right one
Literally changing the criteria each bullet point
They play with Wayne's name like kobes its disturbing
I don't think they heard any of his mixtapes. 🤦🏽♂️
Big Factz
on god
Wayne the 🐐 period
@@CameronBaileyQuote facts his best shit is all off mixtapes... I recommend the Carter 3 sessions to anybody
I think Wayne can give me 20hours of hits
Can he?
That’s funny af!!!!! Lmao
I can't argue that. He's been around for more than two decades so he has some bangers. But he peaked around the 4th Carter. After that he burnt himself out.
Facts
I just can't stand his voice anymore. And he's definitely watered down his lyrics.
They acting like they have heard big bad wolf by wayne😓🥵🔥
palanch89 Or Sick! Or Bloody Mary!
palanch89 on me that’s the hardest shit ever
@@Quisevandross the mobb his hardest shit
Man last 5 years Wayne has still been spittin shit just ppl be sleep. Fat Albert, glory, street chainz, Mona Lisa, Sftw2, and the Verse from SMUCKERS but ppl 💤 on what they don’t kno
@@Icepack00 verse from believer, d6 reloaded, free weezy album, his verse on "like dat; partynext door ft Jeremiah and lil wayne" dawggggg wayne dropped the hardest shit and that wasnt even carter 5
Wayne 2008 run was bananas and push don’t have material to match that. Wayne’s mixtapes crushes push whole catalogue
You’re doing too much cappin
Facts
@@jonahxsmitty Pusha T never paid for features everybody knows that baby was paying for features for Lil Wayne to make him hot he was not the front-runner of the group it was Juvenile and BG nobody wanted to do songs with Lil Wayne baby made him pop because of the incidents that was going on between Juvenile and BG he lost his FrontRunner he had nobody left in left in the group Turk was in jail he sucked as a rapper so they Lil Wayne P just paid his way in and everybody think he's dope from that he's the king of Mumble rap bro
Verity
E Brock I’m from Louisiana every single car in every hood had some Wayne blastin idc about that other shit lol
I hate how they don’t include Wayne’s mixtapes as a reference cuz if they did it’s no contest like Mal argues
rico Cameron exactly
A Milli is mixtape Wayne a milli was originally a mixtape song
@@SPKMADE it was leaked...
rico Cameron can’t credit unoriginal music 🤷🏽♂️
Paul Mic That makes no sense when Wayne has had original music on many mixtapes. It’s not all jacking for beats
Lil Wayne was a movement! He influenced this new generation. Lil Wayne got more punchlines, than the bibles got pages.
malik One
Most of his influence was bad
False. Kendrick, chance, drake, meechy, soulho, tyler, ak the savior, zombie juice, j.i.d., cole, Denzel curry and the whole scene you been listening since 2008 to Now. Stop
@@shaman3069 2chainz too
Pusha t gotta drop a mixtape snapping on every body beat to even make me consider to have this conversation
I would be interested in hearing that
exactly
He's done this twice already. Go listen to the We Got It For Cheap tapes
Too easy and basic 🙄
He has to make fifty "I am the shit" "beat up the pussy" and "spit like I'm retarded" puns to be considered good?
A lot of People literally consider Wayne as the goat. I never heard anyone ever say pusha is the best rapper
Facts
Only reason Lil Wayne is considered a goat is because he applies to people who don’t give a shit about lyrics and lil Wayne has better bars than most of the trash rappers they’re listening to. Then they get their dicks in a knot and claim he’s the goat. He’s not he’s trash. Only reason Pusha T isn’t considered a goat is because he appeals to more hardcore hip hop fans who appreciate lyrics and bars and understand that as good as Pusha is he’s not as good as the top tier rappers he’s close but not there yet. Lil Wayne however is not remotely close to top 50 rappers much less goat
Yea. Hypebeast.
On God I said that same thing
@@Yrkr785 ur on drugs em even said little Wayne is a top tier fym
Bro Wayne's prime and peak was second to none (comparable with guys like Jay and Pac). You compare his prime as far as content, features, albums, mixtapes, acclaim, sales, impact (all of the "Lil's" today are just Waynes that can't rap). Name an artist that was at the top of the mainstream game and underground game at the same time. JUST STOP and i love Push btw!
PAY Wayne had multiple ghost writers
C Long Stfu You sound Dumb
@@cl8355 wheres the link because sqad up hot boys and baby said no one wrote for wayne
kris jones If you believe that shit your dumb😂Wayne is the same dude that made a song spitting for almost an hour,using every rap he written ever just so he could Freestyle every song he made after that. Gillie Tha one need Ghost writers 😂
Lil Wayne's most overrated rapper even at his Peak he had a Ghost Rider there is no way you suck and then all of a sudden you're the best rapper get out of here
Wayne all day. His greatness in his prime was so good that's all we remember.
trash rapper
Lol I don’t think you understand the question
Fans of Wayne don’t feel bad you’re listening to an east coast podcast they’ll never give the south real credit
Pusha from Virginia thats da south do ur homework. Pusha never had another artist prepare a verse for him
@@TonyMasters27 Virginia is barely the south. It was a confederate state but Black people in Virginia have east coast culture. Louisiana is nothing but southern culture across the board.
Its either the south or its not. Its da south
@@TonyMasters27 Things aren't that black and white but ok.
Pusha from the south
Push is one of my all time favs but Lil Wayne’s catalog is alone greatness but lil wayne used to rip people’s own songs and make them his and out rapped everybody
So did (does) push. Push is a better rapper tbh. When you realize that every line is a double entendre, it hits different. I love Wayne though. He’s in my top10. But push is in my top5
@@dfwherbie8814 Wayne got 5 classic projects under his belt.. pusha is nice but Weezy is otherworldly
@@ifailatblackops1 5? Let’s see….Carter, Carter2 & 3…so that’s 3. Then he got Carter 4, which had some classic records like “6 foot 7 foot,” but the Carter 4 def ain’t a classic. He only has 3 classics. But if you wanna add Carter 4, then he has 4. Pusha has Lord Willin…classic! Hell Hath No Fury…classic! My Name is My Name…classic! Daytona….bona fide classic! It’s Almost Dry was on the top of every top album list last year, and it’s nominated for best rap album of the year at this year’s Grammys. That’s bout to be a classic. Just because YOU don’t listen to Pusha or missed out on the Clipse, doesn’t mean he doesn’t have classics.
Pusha is Ill but Wayne in his prime is next level ..... Until Pusha makes a " No Ceilings " or " Carter 2 " I'll wait lol 😂 😂
Exactly! Carter 2 is LEGENDARY
Are u serious i guess u didnt listen to the last Push Album with the beef on it PLEASE RETRACT THAT STATEMENT
@@williebillingsley4559 no lol ....
@@hebrew26commandmentspower55 🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂 to each his own
@@williebillingsley4559 thanks bro .... I like both of Dem tho .... But Wayne in his prime was excellent
Wayne is way more Versatile, prime Wayne is way better than pusha... IMO
Perry Richardson bro go listen to old Wayne
Dawg put the meth away.
Right. This shouldn't even be an argument. Pusha t dissed a pop rapper and now everyone is on his dick. Most of his music has always been shit. One good diss track doesn't change that
Walter Williams not lyrically no
@Perry Richardson No he not Wayne is far more versatile than redundant Cocaine rapping Pusha T
It’s CRAZY how they disrespect wayne
I'm taking No Ceilings over everything Push ever did
No
@Chimill Rimbert your slow
Sorry for the wait over anything push ever did
justin randy Daytona shits on any Wayne project after carter 3. Sorry for the wait was when the Wayne corny bars started to come into play.
@@bryant4972 naw. He was on during that time. Nothing corny about that era
Actually if you look it up Wayne has way more features in the past 4 years, and he actually has some great verses
mac Stanford i agree
He SNAPPED on Asap Rocky's album. M's
Wayne over Push and it's not even close. Wayne is considered one of the best rappers of all time. Push is cool but he's nowhere near that level.
Wayne has bars, Pusha is a better story teller. My opinion only
Monalisa
Puneet Sharma one song
@@henrynguyen8994 He don't do it often but when he does he goes crazy. Last verse of let it all work out.
Pusha T weak af period the best thing he did was snitch on drake for hiding his baby
Nino Grindhard did you even watch the diss analysis?
Wayne. What's to argue? 20 mins wasted. Push is dope, but Wayne all day, everyday! Sheesh!
Ted JustAdmitIT i mean pusha has the Better album, but Wayne is more versatile. There is much to argue, i cant really choose one of Them
Skankhunt 42 listen to the mixtapes, those are some of the best songs I ever heard in my life
chesideck 10 pushas mixtapes or waynes?
Ewarton Charlton idk you dont have to come from a struggle to make good and cathcy Music. I see where your coming from though. Lil Wayne is one of my favorite rappers but i know there are a lot of rappers better than him. He along with the game and eminem are the rappers i grew up on. I dont really listen to any of Them anymore. Now i like rappers like pusha t, mez, ab soul, schoolboy w, Anderson paak, q tip, andre 3000, nas, kendrick and People like that more
Ewarton Charlton i would say he has Cult classics but i would consider carta 2 a classic however i dont Think he is the goat either. There are Way better artists with Way better albums
To even compare lil Wayne to pusha T is criminal. Wayne impact, discography,
Classics, the way every single rapper in the game got lil in front of their name, how they all sound like Wayne and when u add the fact he put Drake and Nicky on it’s not even a debate.
A-dog Johnson Wayne is also better by far as well
FACTS
Wayne is like the MJ of rap. At his peak he 3 peated 2x!! He created a whole wave 🌊 of rappers.
Lil wayne overall, currently Pusha-T, Joey even said he hated Lil Wayne back then but he knew that LIl Wayne was the guy.
As a middle eastern, it breaks my heart the amount of disrespect to Wayne. Wayne has always been at the top of the rap game. Pusha is a great rapper but his influence/impact to the rap game is not even comparable to Wayne's
What does you being middle eastern have to do with anything?
That's true, but Wayne's impact has less to do with your music and more to do with manipulating the mainstream.
Eric Cui mainstream? He put out 100 mixtapes and every song he does is freestyled he doesn’t write anything down that’s his impact he saved rap when people claimed hip hop was dead he was holding it down while everybody wasn’t doing shit.
@@clos1203 but also because he could make hit songs
Eric Cui yea and all off the top of his head pusha t has to write his raps that are written can’t even compare to Wayne’s songs(which are free-styled)
Wayne all day. No question.
Did nobody recently hear D6 reloaded?!!! WAYNE ALL DAY
Na
@Roboes Exactly bruh
Bruh the D6: Reloaded joint, he raised the bar on himself. He went straight bars
Shit was nice
For real. The people saying Wayne ain't dropping shit anymore ain't looking for good music anymore. Simple.
Mixtape Weezy alone too much for Push. N then Add Studio Wayne I consider him the GOAT.
I do too bro. Push is still the man but Wayne is on another level
People don’t understand
I mean in terms of straight rapping, Pusha is better. Wayne is a hit making God, so... SMH
@@erikmerced6329 mixtape wayne will out rap push anyday
Goat for real 💯
Push is dope but listen to Wayne’s recent mixtapes, “back from the 80s” is insane
Lyricist Productions u know!!!
From the 80s? Wayne fans is dumb as fk
joe Black Nah Wayne gotta song called Back from the 80s he snapped on it
@@joeblack7262 lmao most ironic comment ever
Dedication 6 Wayne would smoke push
I Can’t Feel My Face? No Ceilings? The Droughts? Dedications 1-3?
Prime Wayne completely outclasses prime Pusha T. No comparison.
FAXS
Hell hath no fury. Sorry but none of those are anywhere as QUALITY as this
@@cbchansey6866 get out this discussion
@@deseandukes5375 it’s true don’t be mad bud
@@andrewsmith3014 nah u tried it tho
The Suffix, Drought 3, Dedication 1, the Carter 1
Maaan 🤦🏾♂️🔥🔥🔥
Carter 2 hands down best Wayne album period. One of the best albums to play all the way through...
The Prefix wasn't bad either.
@Ay AyI know when I popped it in and heard that first "Cash Money Young money, mother fuck the other side/ they can fuck wit us if they want, I bring em homicide!" that that was going to be a classic
That shit he dropping now tho shits
No cielings, carter 2 and 3, Sorry for the Wait SHEEEEESH
Wayne is more active and has more features than Pusha
Carlos Sixtos I was wondering why they thought the otherwise. This shows to prove that push is better than Wayne
Yaw Tip naw. It jus proves they haven’t heard Wayne’s recent shit. Push ain’t better than Wayne.
@@tyjones9864 pusha T is better... pusha his own boss
curtis heard That has nothing to do with music, name a classic push album/mixtape
@@djandjb1 pusha t dont gotta drop albums like that which he doesn't
When Pusha predicted the whole Cash Money and Wayne outcome. That shit bring chills to my gains. If you a Wayne fan you have to answer to Exdous. 🤷🏿♂️
That shit was crazy! He should be writing the Simpsons or something. iSee why Gene ran to alter...Santeria P was really in that Travelodge.
Elron Hubbard of the cupboard.
That’s not surprising tho, baby always been accused of not paying niggas, Wayne is in the top 10 of some of the best Lyricist Eminem, Jay, even pusha’s boss Kanye... wayne in his prime destroyed anything he touched.
Mixtape Wayne is the Kobe Bryant of Rap
Saq Loc how so?? He’s had ghost writers all his career.
Matt Kinsman Source?
Pax Americana the credits on the songs 😂 this is known.
Matt Kinsman What? First off, if they are credited, then they aren’t “ghost” writers. Second, just because they are credited with lyrics doesn’t mean they wrote the actual lyrics. It just means they helped with an idea or something like that. Look at rappers who definitely write their own lyrics 100% of the time, other people are credited on the lyrics all the time
Pax Americana no, they’re usually credited with helping with the hooks if that’s what they “helped” with. If a rapper writes 100% of his own shit that means they wrote 100% lol. Why would someone else get credit? Quentin was listed on a few Drake songs, yet everyone said that’s Drakes ghost writer 🤦🏻♂️
Nobody even brings up the Birdman Situation which basically tied his hands for almost five years? Do they even know hip hop?
LiT TV they stupid
Nope cause he was still droppin music and mixtapes just not his carter 5 album, which was trash, so its a mute point, d6 was fire tho, and so was glory
@gil reynolds yeap exactly what i meant, i appreciate the correction, did my point still come across tho
Mal wd He dropped that after he resolved the Birdman situation 🤦🏽♂️Plus d6 And FWA was NOT TRASH😂
@@littv1610 i alreadybsaid d6 wasnt garbage, that was heat, carter 5...straight trash, but the point im making is, wayne was still releasing music even with the bs goin on with birdman, he couldnt drop a whole album, thats why we got carter 5 , 5 years later, but he was still droppin music, wayne pretty much fell off around 2014/15
I think y'all need to give D6, D6 reloaded, a few spins then tell me Wayne isn't better now.... 🙃🙃🙃🙃
Facts!!
he was spittin on several of those tracks love those mixtapes
Nah that shit was ass. Wayne stop being good after No Ceilings and C4 was the end of the music being worth listening too. His Maybach Music VI verse ass.
@@CameronBaileyQuote d6 and d6 reloaded both fire, fire af. Carter 5....trash af...wayne hella hit or miss
@@malwd6321 Wayne has never not had a album go platinum within the first week.
I think lights out or 500 degrees went gold and it's considered Wayne's worst album.
The disrespect shown to Wayne is crazy. Like comparing Jordan and Harold miner
Pen game and skill set there's no way Wayne can ever come close to Pusha's level. Now in terms of success in their careers, forget comparing the two, Wayne has had one of the most successful careers of any rapper that's done it in terms of sales, hits and having one of the greatest runs. But we're talking pure skill set and who's the better rapper and Push takes that one by miles.
@@11bornrich my guy I need what you smoking cause push t not better than Wayne you tripping tripping
@@SeanSmith-yq6kz Catalogue wise no, Push can't see Wayne. Waynes best Project vs Push best project is subjective and for me I'm going with Push but I won't argue with someone who says Wayne or Carter 3 vs whatever, I can respect it, however, pen wise.. Anyone that even thinks it's a debate are crazy. Push is far superior in terms of skill set and pen game. That's no disrespect to Wayne but it is what it is.
Haks Hustle y’all crazy Wayne ova Push all day come on now lol 🙄🙄🙄
@@11bornrich my boy for you to say Wayne can't fuck with pusha T shows me your lack knowledge when it comes to Wayne so I can't take your opinion seriously cause Wayne from 06-11 Wayne was the best rapper no question pusha T never was even top 5 my boy you need to stop it skill set and pen wise Wayne is vastly superior to pusha T and it's honestly not even a competition and I like pusha T
bro wayne has lots of flows and styles where pusha has one flow and style
Facts!!
Ghost writers
@@courtneyseward8631 right...his flow and style changed when they paid those philly rappers to come hang around those studios with Wayne...Gillie and Philly's Most Wanted...Then magically his hooks and big songs started popping with Drake in the wings...I still enjoy Wayne, but can't dismiss he had help
Ghost writers? Gtfoh. Carter 2 was better than carter 1 when gillie was "involved"
Wayne is way more versatile, has more hits, and has better projects than push. Easily wayne. Wayne influenced a generation because of his rapping. Wayne has too many flows
Btw he signed drake n nicki
Nicki is basic rhyme scheme and lyrics and Drake and Wayne have Ghostwriters so all are trash regarding true skill
KungFuFEMA FAM Wayne doesn’t even write Dumbass😂He been videoed Numerous Times freestyling his music. Get yo facts str8 kid
DamnDude irrelevant
Angry Ass Black muthafucka Not his fault Niggas ain’t on his level 😂
I dont think its even a discussion lil wayne is a all time great top 5 in my eyes
Naw
Top 15 not 5
He's Top 1
@@adonnissgod8294 heck no. Wayne ain't close to Pac
Teco Roy too 15 maybe .. def not top 5
Push revived his career, Wayne revived a label
100
Pusha T aint got shit on Wayne. Y'all better go back and listen to each mixtape series no ceilings, dedication, and da drought.
Jesse Canada droughts alone bro are enough!!! ESPECIALLY that drought 3!!!!
Jay millz rhymes
Nothing can top dedication
Who wrote that was it Gillie, or Jae Millz?
Jesse Canada cmonnnnnn
FFS
Wayne is trashhhhhhhhhhhhh
Joe Budden said people wasn't saying Wayne was better than jayz n Jay was saying his self he gone pass the torch SMH
Kyle Sharp Exactly
If Jordan said he was passing the torch to Kobe that don't make Kobe magically better
@@PopularNobody didn't say that sir Mike said the only person that could possibly beat him in a 1 v 1 is kobe cuz Kobe studied him Tim duncan,hakeem, dirk,
@Byron Payne the purpose of passing the torch is to make the torch burn brighter hypothetically. you don't pass the bitch for them to burn the same or worse.
Those two aren't even in the same class. Wayne has reached a level that pusha T probably will never be at.
Pusha is a way better lyricist imo.
sportsfans 37 lil wayne stan
Commercially yes but y’all gotta look past all that bullshit just straight RAPPING they’re neck and neck
Because he’s a level that’s higher
Wayne has rapped about EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE what's left for him to say honestly
I mean EVERYTHING! for 20+ years straight!
Not at all. Lil wayne make nonsense bars. He's just a punch Line Rapper bro. His bars don't even make sense going in to the next. 🤷🏾♂️
@@billynewyears3044 So what ? BIggie did the samething most times & then he got story's he told ....Just like Wayne
N still overrated
@@King-rs9moBiggie is way better than Lil Wayne and Wayne has never made a classic album like Ready to Die
Wayne of course. Dedication 1 and 2 and Julez I can’t feel my face.
Would u put wayne over lupe
curtis heard Lupe???? Who is that😂🤦🏽♂️
@@littv1610 Maann, I hope you're joking.
Ronnjanique Collins KICK PUSH KICK PUSH man that’s bars😂
@@littv1610 Lupe has numerous songs that have charted throughout his career. The fact that you can only name his most popular one tells me you were born in the 2000s. Nevermind that, though. I can name you at least 20 Lupe songs that lyrically kills anything your favorite rapper has written or ever will write, but I know you're just gonna continue staying in your mumble rap bubble, so no point in even bothering.
Wayne is BETTER. idc what anyone else is saying.
@Ewarton Charlton Wayne been out b4 Pusha since 95
Ewarton Charlton Wayne don’t got classic material?? Carter 2, Carter 3, No ceilings, Da Drought 3, Dedication 2 and 3?? Are all Classic projects. Your the one that needs testing bro wtf
Ewarton Charlton you trippin bro gtfo
Ewarton Charlton bro your on every comment talking shit on Wayne it’s obvious your hating gtfo
I can’t even believe this is a question. Pusha T is hard and has some dope features, but Joe hit it right on the head: Wayne is not from this world. He would rap circles around Pusha T any day, whether he’s putting out music or not. He’d be high as hell the whole time and still out-rap almost anyone that’s ever done it.
2008 Wayne >>>>>> 2018 Pusha T
weezy just isn't hungry anymore
Puneet Sharma he doesn’t have to be. He is an owner of a record company and found drake and nicki.
No chance... Pen game wise no. Wayne's always been basic. Success wise absolutely. Most rappers can't see him in terms of success. In terms of pen he won't even crack top 50. In terms of greatest he won't crack top 30 neither will Push but people are overrating Wayne now that he's fallen off. When he was popping he was the most trash rapper alive at one point to everyone with the most basic shit. Now all of a sudden his old shit is gold..
Puneet Sharma Carter 2 is his best album
@@11bornrich i bet you haven't heard Wayne's best work
@@puneetsharma101 I've heard pretty much all of Waynes best work, funny enough I've heard 10x more of Wayne's material both albums and mixtapes than I have of Pusha's.. Never said he doesn't have dope work, I'm simply saying him at his height in terms of skill set it isn't better than Push at his height. Whether you want to talk about tha carter albums, dedication, no ceilings or whatever it just isn't better sorry.
Disrespectful question smfh wayne is on goat level
Drey 93 that’s what I’m trying to tell em Bro lol smh 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Exactly
@@classof2010president so is push? He's just has better bars, delivery, idea execution, and more consistently delivers that.
How is Wayne on Goat level with ghost writers all his career?
@@cbchansey6866 maybe now. But Prime & Peak Wayne lyrically stomps
This convo is completely disrespectful to Wayne 😑. Pusha T wishes he could have the impact and influence that Wayne has on the culture 😂.
The question is about who the better rapper is. Not who is more influential or who has the most hits.
MachoManLogic345 sippin lean till he’s brain dead as well
Just be glad it wasn't Jada or Fab.
Wayne has released at least 3 dog shit albums.
@@deontajohnson5537 Gtfoh I know you ain't talking about that stupid Bathing Apes debacle 🤔. Pusha don't own the Bathing Apes brand it's not 😂. Wayne don't got writers you need to show more proof than the fairy tales that Gillie Da Kid has been spreading 🙃
DA DROUGHT 3 OVER PUSHA T WHOLE CATALOG. STANDING ON IT
FACTS. How can they compare a goat to pusha, just how?
Bro u don’t know how much faxxxx u just wrote .... drought 3 is goat
D3 is crazy. it is probably just as nice as pushas catalog
Nahh.. Everyone knows when D3 dropped everything changed the rap game.. Wayne was light years ahead of everyone else
😂😂😂
I’m gonna go with Wayne. I sometimes get left hanging waiting for the punchline from Push. Wayne always delivers and makes me laugh.
Lmaooooooooo you don’t get left, you just missed it. To say “always” is a joke. He been ass since 2011.
*4 words "Hell Hath No Fury"*
Track 1. Got it for cheap. Come on bro push killed it
Carter 2 Shitting on Pusha career
@@willl4219 *Ok one word, Ghostwriter... Fin*
No Ceilings washing the hell out of that garbage
@@basedsamurai5706 *Ok*
Lord willin , hell hath no fury back to back classics
Raphael Paz lmao that’s it ? Stop
@@aadamjalil8177 Daytona, king push, fear of God
Idk why this is even a discussion. Prime Wayne was best rapper in the game arguably. Mixtape king
Coach Jeff huh???? Hahahahahahaha. How can you be the best with ghost writers your whole career?
@@mattkinsman272 fam what???
Connor vR you can’t read?
@@mattkinsman272 nah i read it fine, just wonderin where u got that info from brody lmao waynes pen game is top of the game
Clipse push smokes prime Wayne.
Wayne said that he was best rapper alive and at his apex, he backed it up and made it a serious discussion and carried a label on his back.... I gotta give it to him
how can they compare these two? Wayne in a whole different lane smh
they were real disrespectful to wayne this entire conversation. especially rory
You’re smoking crack lol u must be 30+ or sum
James Scott don’t put that on us. you gotta be like 40 to feel this way.
@Ewarton Charlton you're the Man!
Ewarton Charlton no classics? You’re so full of shit
@Ewarton Charlton Free Weezy Album?
I don't even want to hear from ppl who think C3 Wayne was in his prime. Yeah he was at his "peak popularity", but he rapped way better on C1 and C2. I also don't want to hear from anyone who's NEVER spat a freestyle while the Grindin' beat was being done on a lunch table or locker. FOH!
Kensane Carter 2 is Wayne best album, idk why people act like Carter 3 is better.
Carter 3 was his most commercial album carter 3 and dedication 3 made the anticipation crazy plus carter 3 delivered. It’s in my top 3 of all time what’s a classic push album?
@@wooskionehundred1788 I count the Clipse album, Lord Willin' and He'll Hath No Fury for Push. If we're talking solo, I think Daytona will be considered a classic in the near future. For Wayne I would consider The Block is Hot, C1, and C2 as super classics.
@@beeazy2847 Because Carter 3 is when "they" finally found out about Wayne, late as hell. He was lyrically on a decline by then. His song making was better. His bars though?....Ehh....
Kensane True but to be fair, Carter 2 didn't have AMilli on it, now that I think about it. That wordplay in the 1st verse is underrated, even while most people know the words by heart. But as a whole, Carter 2 was more authentic.
Weezy is clearly more prolific than is pusha though I love them both. Wayne is the mixtape King unquestionably. Pusha is remarkably precise but Dwayne is incredible off the dome, in terms of sheer rap skill Wayne is definitely better
But afraid 2 respond 2 pusha 4 yrss..now rite...😏😏😏...stemming from '05...
@VLAD BANNEDME 3.0 still am
When they both are in their bag, it's Lil Wayne all day....That’s debatable?🤨
nahhh if they were to make diss tracks towards each other, pusha got this, his pen heavy
@tim clown
@@classof2010president the only clown is anyone who can't recognize the greatest rap delivery of all time
Brooooooooooo Lil Wayne any time in the whole universe nihgaaa
Push’s T damn sure not seeing Wayne with features or albums. Y’all mf tweakin . PUSHA T GOT MORE FEATS THEN WAYNE? SERIOUSLY
When they said that bullshit I honestly wanted to slap them. 🤦🏽♂️
Talent is all that matters. Every other statistic is weak, G.O.O.D. Music has always bested Cash Money, every step. It's all in the name, in the music industry you either make cash money or good music 🖖 The greats make both, Wayne & Push are both greats just diff levels 📊 If you know you know 🤷
Cash money/Ym is better than G.o.o.d
Well Push's verse on that Wu Tang soundtrack album is damn sure better than M's, Death wish, no love, or any of his other best features. And Wayne is too inconsistent in his mixtapes for them to come close to any clipse/push album, while his albums can't even hit the same highs
@@cbchansey6866 what?
I appreciate Joe dropping Immortal Technique name. One of my favorites
Alien Wayne >>>>>>>>> Pusha T on any given day, hour, second etc. Shit’s a NO CONTEST
All i know Pusha used to send plenty shots at Wayne and he didn't want no smoke. For somebody to had been considered the GOAT
Lil wayne goulish is where he responded to pusha T then pusha went on hiatus for years
You know a wise man once said nothing at all 👌🏿👍🏿✌🏿
Relski Andredtti ghoulish was so bad that most people don’t remember that diss or have never heard about it.
Do you know how many people was coming at wayne neck ? Responding to one he’d have to respond to em all
@@relskiandredtti679 Ghoulish was not hard. I guarantee that didn't scare Push at all. Pusha T had the far better disses smh
Don’t get me wrong pusha is a lyrical genius but there’s no way he comes close to Wayne when he was in his prime
"Real Gs move in silence like lasagna" ....bro, Wayne had some niggas in confusion for 2 solid years with that bar. Disrespectful ass question.
Pusha is still rapping like every song is Mr. Me Too.
Y’all ain’t listen to D6 or D6 reloaded? It’s not close dawg 😂
Wave God them bitches was lowkey fire 🔥
darvell lattimore he was in rare form. When you go back & listen to his old mixtapes.. These were easily top 5
Hell yea!!
D6 Wayne.
DNA, Roll n Peace, BIG BAD WOLF?!?
Nasty. That entire mix tape is ridiculous.
Wayne drops mixtapes and albums. Wayne is the most active. Wayne drops about two mixtapes between albums.
This topic is straight non sense. WEEZY F dawg stop playin
Wrong! *Charlie Murphy voice
No it’s not
Wayne got bodied by pusha though. Pusha predicted his demise to the t on one track
Lol they need more people from different regions. This ain’t even a discussion in the South.
Or midwest
Cali either.. Joe be on bullshit
@@lornegreen6755 he saying that cauz push is from Virginia moron
Stop playing around bro Wayne is hands down top 5 that’s like taking nas out because he has gone in different directions with music that doesn’t take away what he’s done.
Lil wayne is a master at what he does. No comparison
I do love Wayne but push is definitely up there as one of the best mc’s to also ever do it
@@versatilelord8893 Push isn't top 30. Wayne has a case to be top 5 to 10.
Im a fan of both but push isn't a really skilled MC
Pusha T is better imo... Revisit his Clipse catalogue, especially Hell Hath No Fury. Wayne peaked with Carter 3 and steadily went downhill since. He had his mixtape run but it was his flow that carried him not really his lyricism. Wayne has more flows but Pusha has the better bars.
Wayne is a king of double entendres and punch lines Wayne was quite a lyricists I strongly with that
@@kyonsenzu8799 I respect your opinion but I disagree. I think his flow and just swagger is what carries him. A lot of his punchlines that had my broskis going crazy were simple AF. Alotta forced double entendres. Shit like:
"Get girls wet like backs"
"I'm hot like dogs"
“Had a phone in jail, that’s a cell phone”
“Been eating my girl and she’s so sweet, I got cavities”
“I’m a made nigga, I should dust something”
If those are clever bars to you, then we just disagree.
Malice was a way better rapper than Pusha who wants to revisit The Clipse catalog just to hear Malice washed Pusha
Wayne bodied the Clipse on the Grinding rmx.
Hearing this four years later, sounds crazy
Pusha T has dissed Wayne a few times and Wayne never dropped a good response so....
Cause its not worth it. Lil Wayne just said 2 lines about Pusha, didnt even make a full distract.
In the Hip Hop world, Wayne was like a lion compared to Pusha T who was ike a housecat to him. And Wayne isnt a battle rapper
Know-Ledge _Y.L.G. Nobody's a battle rapper until they get into a rap battle. And Wayne did make a full diss track toward Pusha T. It was just so trash, that we like to forget about it.
@@beeazy2847 Battle rappers are the rappers who make diss tracks. Thats not Wayne style, he's not that type of rapper. Wayne is the apper who competes with you by making better albums, better mixtapes, better features, or doing a better verse than you, and making more hits and more sells. He's not a diss/battle rapper.
Otherwise, Wayne got the better arvantage in everything else
So even tho " Ghoulish " is barely a legit disdtrack. That was the first time Wayne ever dissed or took shots at anybody for a full rap song.
Be Eazy because like me.. no one ever heard it.. done
He doesn’t have to acknowledge pusha tbh cuz Pusha is irrelevant compared Wayne.
Wayne still active af clearly they just haven’t been listening. Wayne all day, push super nice though.
Damn Dude how? He has ghost writers
Matt Kinsman whooooo has ghost writers?????? wayne?????
RichieTM 6 Absolutely he does. Are you new here?
Matt Kinsman even if wayne has ghost writers, push isn’t better than wayne
RichieTM 6 I never even said anything about push ..
Bruh wayne is the goat 🐐 hes like top 5 in hiphop ever. WHAT YALL MEAN ?!?!!
Top 5 Lmaoo ., yeah ok ... jay z , nas , biggie , pac and big pun ... Wayne ain’t over none of those rappers
@@michaeltolliver9681 i was talking about rappers alive right now but okay Timmy ♿
Lil wayne raps better than Pusha T - The amount of punchlines lil wayne has made me go crazy .. theirs more reasons but cone on
Wayne been nice for a min. Remember the Squad Up tapes? Sheesh 🔥🔥🔥
Pusha Left earth on Palmolive and 18 wheeler
Ill Individuals he didn’t leave earth on 18 wheeler at all, dope verse but if you call that leaving earth then what is black thought flex freestyle, lupe fiasco mural, canibus poet laureate et cetera? They must come from a completely different universe if 18 wheeler = leaving earth.
😂😂😂😂
If you know you know
@@zgsfreaky9102 there is levels to this. Cuz some parts of mural lupe was back on earth. So it's perspective
Getaye Reigns quote me parts ftom mural where he wasnt spazzing out, he didn’t hold a consistent message throughout the whole song or anything but he painted a vivid picture throughout the whole joint of his own life and growing up in chicago, literally a mural. The lyrical display in that song is mindnumbing
Pusha has stood the test of time..still sharp asf..wayne on the other hand ehhhh wayne delivery fell off lol
Was Pusha’s peak ever close to Wayne’s peak?
@@iosinc1169 lmao no but that wasnt the question!! haha
@@iosinc1169 No, but did Pusha ever put out as many trash verses and albums as Wayne did? Yall only count the good like Wayne doesn't have terrible material as well, and I'm not just talking about before his prime.
ElectricB was pusha t ever the face of rap? Foh lmao talking about trash verses people always become such prisoner of moments
Pusha was never considered top 5 of any era let that sink in. His brother Malice use to carry him on the old Clipse albums
Prime Wayne vs prime pusha it's not even close Wayne easily win... I don't think no rapper could out rap a prime Wayne
Omike White nobody could
But Wayne wasn't writing his own stuff in his prime... nevermind your too young. Everybody know he didn't write his own stuff and he was kissing niggaz and they was burning bridges. It was a mess but the mixtape was great tho.
Are you sure you was old enough to know what was going on back then
@@joeblack7262 lmao obviously u dont know shit, prime wayne still freestyled every song
@@joeblack7262 you are right cuz Wayne never wrote shot 🤣🤣
@@joeblack7262 stfu wayne did freestyled every song by himself tf u talking about igga
prime wayne and it’s not even close.
How dare this be a question? Wayne. Easily.
Celebrity Jarron. Facts
Celebrity Jarron. Good stuff from Joe on his takes surrounding Wayne
LET'S STOP ACTING LIKE WAYNE EVER FELL OFF. GLORY, LIKE A MAN, VIZINE, SELSUN BLUE, LONDON ROADS, HOLLYWEEZY, FAT ALBERT VERSE, DEDICATION 6, FWA, C5, SFTW2 ETC? He's been consistent, you guys just stopped listening.
Souup145 Thank You!!!!
Souup145 they trippin Wayne is Goat
Biggggg facts
"Bad bitch bout to swallow all my stress for me" Wayne killed Fat Albert
You telling me you can't hear the difference between Wayne's writers? He's so different because his teams are different. Wayne is obviously Gilly during "Prime Wayne". Gilly had that ROC flow that EVERYONE was trying to copy, that Jay Z invented. You wasn't there. Jay invented Prime Wayne's flow, and Wayne obviously dropped "wobble dee wobble dee Wayne" and hired a shooter who could give him that Hov style. Then after that era, you can hear the obvious change in writers. Now it's like he has kids submitting cheeky punchlines to a spreadsheet and he just glues them together into rhymes. I'm not mad at it. Every other genre has writers including Beyonce. But Push is writing every one of those lines. Don't @ me unless you actually write rhymes. Anyone who writes WELL knows what I'm saying is true. If it's not, then wayne just literally learned how to KILL out of nowhere, then FORGOT out of no where. That's not a natural phenomenon. People usually get comfy and don't change once they find something that works. Look at Jada for example, same flow. hell, LOOK AT PUSHA lol.
Lil Wayne is the better rapper when it comes to Push, Push is a monster off top but he doesn't come that close to Wayne and Push is better than ALOT of other rappers lyrically, Wayne is just THAT GOOD as to why ht's not that much of a contest.
Oh and btw, Drake lost that battle with Push. But Drake is still Drake, same way how Jay took an L to Nas but it didn't hurt him because of who he already was prior to that feud.
Push is a better rapper
Wayne is a better artist
People debate Jay and Nas
@@Lordinos10 prime Wayne is better rapper overall, arguabky nuch better lyrically too
@@Beezy_420 Yall are downplaying the fuck out of Pusha T's pen game
Joe budden tv y’all gotta listen to dedication 6 and dedication 6 reloaded
@Ewarton Charlton pretty sure coke raps strictly is considered rapping about nothing so what was the argument again.
@Ewarton Charlton Wayne raps about nothing? Listen to Mirror, Don't cry, Mona Lisa, Dr. Carter, 3peat. Man I could go on.
@Ewarton Charlton ok so take the content out of it. Because "child" millionaire content is nothing to you and coke content is nothing to someone else. Strictly rapping ability, are you still taking push over wayne?
Ewarton charlton so just because u can’t relate to wayne means push is a better rapper? I fuck with both of them but what else does push rap about besides the dope game? Just like you said about wayne 99% of push shit is about the same shit lol
@Ewarton Charlton Wayne could still out rap pusha any day. Wayne doesn't need to write his verses, matter of fact he doesn't even write most of his features and they still carry. And if we talking about overall influence in rap, the only thing pusha known for is the Drake diss. Wayne honestly beats pusha in every category there is in hip hop.
Wayne would Rap circles around push.. eyes closed.. while on a hospital bed.. the disrespect to Wayne name.. cut it
Bullshit. Wayne got writers
So I guess that's why Lil Wayne never wrote a good diss trackin response to push? You literally have no idea what you're talking about. And I'm almost positive little Wayne doesn't write his songs and the one he does right repeat the same word every f****** 2 seconds
Your response is 100% correct to every word!
Naw lyrically Pusha would kill wayne
Before I even start the video obviously it’s Wayne
Why is this even a discussion🤔
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Because Pusha is better
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It'a discussion for sure, i got Pusha but i aint mad if u got Wayne tho but it's fucked up to say it ain't a discussion, that means u aint hip hop
Wayne and it's not even close. Lil Wayne belongs in the Top 10/15/20 MCs ever conversation.
*Top 5
*top 3
@@bg23allday1 You're Correct!
@@p.1967 your high
@@bg23allday1 and your even higher
lol Wayne is way more active in the last 5 years he dropped a mixtape every year plus a album
Mixtapes wasn’t good
ROKINROD23 Your opinion on the work has nothing to do with him being active. If he put out the tapes then he's active, whether you think they're good or not.
@@DefiantMercenary did you not hear Dedication or D6 Reloaded?
Obviously they haven't heard dedication 6 and 6 reloaded
Fr bro
Don’t forget the carter five deluxe Scottie pimping song men I can’t get it off my track list it’s fire and more fire
But the better rapper is pusha. We ain’t talking bout who made more songs. Who’s lyrically better???
Exactly. ANY well-versed hip-hop head would put Pusha T over Wayne it's not even close.