@@NOOCH2GUD I do NEED him to have a good tank/jedi/galactic republic to plug in for GAC/TW/TB i never dont use him. wether its with padme because GK is with JMK, or with qui gon. so many teams he can be plugged into. you can even put him with SK.
@@NOOCH2GUDi am very surprised here. he is very plug in play can be in starkiller line ups he makes Qui gon omni battles more annoying and is very good with jmk and padme and very good in jedi teams. Since you need for jmk you might wanna use him
Mace is an extremly good charachter imo, removing stealth, shatterpoint (max health reduction), stuns and calling assist as well as ability block on basic, and he does good damage, for my account i absolutely do NEED him :) Edit: i even forgot about the turn metre swap lol
i was all with you until you mentioned Second sister and Mace windu. Second sister has one of the best ships in the game so the grind is worth it. Without her ship Chimera would be such a good fleet. Mace plug in play in every jedi/galactic republic team
I think Visas actually add quite a lot to Starkiller team I mean, if suggestions are adding scav Rey to SK, that's a big L Outside of the ocasional revive, the real deal for me is the cleanse on the basic Had saved me several time clearing the dazes and AB from my team
I use SK with Scav since unlocked last year. Barely lost, and if so usually due to early Whirlwind from Rey...whic cannot be revived anyway. I am glad I did not follow through to relic Visas...
I use SK with Scav since unlocked last year. Barely lost, and if so usually due to early Whirlwind from Rey...whic cannot be revived anyway. I am glad I did not follow through to relic Visas...
People sleep on zeb’s extra protection. He makes every pve battle easier. Sabine melts in conquest, assault battles, galactic challenge with zeb, I plug in play him in all phoenix battles.
Imperial Probe Droid is needed for Separatist Command Mission in Geonosis Separatist Might. It needs 6 stars only - no gear, no abilities and no levels. Four(?) guild members need to farm it to 6 stars so your guild gets full benefit of the Hailfire Tank to get Wat shards. Since guilds can change or members do not contribute (like deploying too many other characters), you need a few spares in the guild. Visa Marr is also in a platoon for the other Geo TB. But that is just a temporary TB until your guild gets over 200 million GP for RotE.
Im only going to argue with you because you mentioned it Zeb - sabine will go with the bo squad eventually making room for him, the protection recovery is op when you catch a tm loop. Teebo - lead has got me most of my stealth feats for gc and if you throw a teebo lead ewoks it stops the nest counter Zaalbar/mission - op on tarful Omega - very useful to get cat to waste her force leap so you can mando snipe counter cat into gas auto jml Visas - revieve will never go out of style, espeically a non faction specific one Boba fett - makes the top 16 tw gauntlet teams, pretty much a guaranteed win. Lets you get use out of tusken omicrons. Second sister - tie interceptor is a top 10 ship Probe droid - eventually itll have another datacron I guess? Talia - one of the few dark side healers.. really trying here Mace - part of the budget maglus counter, op in tw, counter on basic applying ability block, tm swap. Shatterpoint is one of the best abilities in the game hands down. You can put mace on almost any jedi team and its a multi layered improvement. His rework taught this butter knife how to speak swiss. His ship - yeaa you're right
I play since 2016 (had 4 long breaks) and Teebo is kinda nostalgic because he was vital to do Rancor raid back then. It was ridiculous and fun at same time. My Rancor team was like Teebo, Qui Gon Jin, Clone Wars Chewie, Rex and Geonosian Soldier. The goal was to not give Rancor any turn, and this team could solo the entire raid, but I never leveled them enough so my record was like 9.2m of 10m.
This is actually really helpful for mid game where you are looking at these characters and considering building them cause you think they will be good.
I mean Mace is rl good, he's more about a supporting tank more than straight up tanking. He reduce max health, offense, removing turn meter and gaining it, as well as swapping turn meter. His taunt is unique tho :v
Thank you for this - there are some who I will still get and work on because I love them, but it's great getting an upfront warning about some of the others so I never waste any resources on them as sometimes, as a player who loves collecting these heroes, I might be tempted to get a certain character, but in SWGOH there's always someone else who I can go for instead!
Omega goes well with bad batch for the zeffo special mission for mk2 tokens, and BB are the best clones for the mission. If you're in a pve guild, i would say you need her
I quit playing this about 4 years ago and it seems like they reworked the entire game, thank you for these videos they're helping me get back into the swing of things now
Idk I would disagree about visas. Just the threat of her revive adds another layer to the team you can’t ignore. If scavenger Rey is on the team you can just ignore her to focus Mara jade or starkiller. If visas mar is hella beefy she buys more time for the team to cause chaos.
mace is a defensive/offense menace on qui/kelleran gac omi and on a kelleran tw omi mace can be used with sk and rey too i had 8 defensive wins on tw using rey and mace omi
Zalbar and mission cause a lot of damage when they are together especially with Onassi in the leader spot . Everytime one attacks the other attacks as well
I thought characters like CUP would be here. A lot of the characters in this video we NEED for events or journeys. Are there any characters that are 100% useless and not needed for anything?
Mace is kinda crazy, but the otherwise I agree with these for the most part. Teebo, as someone else mentioned, is nice for stealth feats, but you really don’t need to gear him for that much at all. Visas has definitely saved my Starkiller squad a few times. Unfortunately I’m planning on gearing at least a couple of these up for RotE platoons (or boxes or whatever else people call them.)
I use zeb in my Phoenix squad over using Sabine except in rare scenarios like dealing with a KRU FO team. Daze stuns a stagger and extra max protection on his unique gives the whole Phoenix squad extra survivability protection recovery works well with crex aoe daze. I’m 8mil GP and I use zeb in my offensive and defensive lineup works a lot better for me than Sabine who I can then plug and play with mandolorians. Zalbaar and mission can go into a old republic team under carth makes a meh/somewhat decent team. Also tb omicrons are only good if you have secured your omicrons and getting wins for TW/GAC. One TB omicron I recommend is OG Finn Omi was able to use it to get those extra TB points on combat missions for ROTE but 200,000 points isn’t that big of a increase. Only other ones that can be somewhat usable are the omicrons that are lined with special missions like Big Cals tb omi
This video is kind of a miss for me. There are characters like mace or visas who are main stays in meta teams (JML, JMK, or Padmè for the former, especially in TW and being the best option for SK without taking from other teams with the latter) that are compared to objective trash like teebo who actually serves no function. Also stuff like second sister whos a bad character but has a very powerful ship that does actually make a pretty big difference. Theres also this odd passive aggressive tone throughout the video, where you seem to want to anticipate potentail diagreement, and counter it by being incredibly demeaning and belittling. Im sure this wasnt intentional, this just wasnt a good watch imo, as I both disagree with half the content and find the way it was presented to be strangly hostile.
@@fabianweller6077you guys need to relax haha I thought it was a good vid. Nothing about the vid was condescending, don't take it personal haha. I'm guessing you felt attacked because you wasted gear on all these toons.
@@masternamer9399 You literally offered nothing of substance in your comment and cannot stand when your favorit youtuber is offered goodfaith constructive criticism. Though you are subscribed to dojadog, so its no suprising you cant think for yourself.
This I gotta see, I R5 bad batch when the show came out, now seeing everyone 💩 on omega making me sad, but I keep saying Crosshair gonna make an appearance
I’m not trying to argue with you and would also love if you can also collect him, but how do you know he is? I mean, you once were able to fight against him in Conquest like a few months ago, but I haven’t seen him since then. Plus, in territory battles there are quite a few characters you can only fight against but cannot collect any shards (especially from the galactic republic)
Zeb is useful after rex, cause phoenix squad counters inquisition even with grand and reva, but theres need to have no jedi in squad, so you need team like hera, chopper, rex, sabine and zeb. With that you can even hit auto. Otherwise, with kenan and ezra, too much random and you can easily loose.
Zeb - ❌ - he hits for over 100k with his special on my Hera team with Crex. Definitely worth it IMO, especially cause Sabine goes better with Mando's. Teeebo - ✅ Z and Mission - ❌- goes really nicely with Tarful, especially with TW omi. Omega - ✅ - she is a luxury. Omi does make KAM mission much less RNG, but can be done with 501st and Shaak Visas - ✅ - also a luxury, but not terrible. SOJ - 💯 - Definitely a luxury, and honestly only mid tier in TW. Second Sister - ✅ - definitely don't go past what is needed for GI. Probe - ✅ Talia - ✅ - Merrin much better Mace - ❌❌❌ - excellent character, I use him with Jedi, Padme, JML, JMK. Very versatile. TW omi very useful. I would say there are many more characters like Teebo you could have brought up. SOME of these characters are needed for ships, GL's, or legendaries. That makes them worth hearing and leveling IMO. Nice vid though! 😊
Sabine isn’t used on any Mando squad, especially not anymore. Zeb doesn’t do anything to help with the goal of Phoenix, TM loop into oblivion, where Sabine does. If you’re using zeb with phoenix over Sabine, you’re either still farming Sabine to take his place, or you’re just playing it wrong.
The light speed bundles were really good. It got my guilds' activity up and lots of bonding moments gifting each other bundles. Unfortunately, i couldn't gift any or receive any my account was bugged the whole time.
Mace Windu makes countering Jabba with JMK in TW super-easy. It trivializes that encounter, even with Embo Omicron & Boush Datacron. So I'd say Windu is worth higher relics, he's an amazing toon.
I think you’re right about visas . I didn’t buy any Jedi training rey bundles because I got her back in the day. I just got JML so r7 JTR instead of Visas is going to be fun on my star killer team
I actually used teebo after trying forever with the classic ewok team for 3p0. If you use his stuns smartly I finished it after two tries. All were g12 but he was g8
Zeb is needed for survivability in Phoenix team, sometimes his unique gives much more than 25% critical damage or whatever sabine gives. Mostly for defense, but sometimes on offense as well. Zaalbar is fine in wookie team. You don't need him as you don't really need to have a wookie team on your account, but he's not useless. I belive Old Republic will get a lifter in the future, so he, Mission and Carth will have a new home in the game. Visas - yeah sure you can put any LS UFU in your SK squad, your GA opponents will be happy to see Rey or someone else there. Can't say she's crucial to the team, but that revive possibility and overall survivability she provides is much better. Boba Fett could be out of this list if he required less kyros to get geared up, so whatever. Second sister IS needed to get GI, you need to have her at r5. Can't argue about gearing her up even higher, you don't even need her zeta to be on, not even for her ship. Mace is an amazing and pretty annoying tank for JMK, Padme, OmiQGJ, Keleran Bek and other GR or Jedi teams. Also his capital ship is quite good too, I was able to clear ROTE battles with it and standard GR fleet, which for some reason I couldn't do with Negotiator. And in PvP, really useful for extreme fleet cleanups, like, the last option you have and it might give you a win.
Boba fett scion on Jango isn’t as bad as people think. He’s pretty damn good in fact it’s just for the price it’s not worth it at all. But he’s strong. Just wish he was given an easier kit to take better advantage of.
So, My two disagreements are Mace and Visas. Visas though, I do agree with you that she's more of a nicety, but I'd say she's better than wasting on Scav Rey or something. As for Mace, he is a great plug n play Jedi in any GR team. Even with mine at g12 he's doing work.
What frustrates me, is the fact that I agree about Boba Fett, but the catch is that I invested all 3 omicron but now don’t use it as much as I should. Everyone made him seem like a GL in Team War, but then it’s like I still need BAM and Fennic so it’s complicated feeling. I agree but also gotta defend his awesomeness from the show lmao
It's so weird that Visas Marr has no synergy with Nihilus, the sith trio or even has a Old Republic tag. Makes me so suspicious that we'll get KOTOR2 content in the future and that they put Visas Marr in the freezer.
Do hope they give us more; sith triumvirate are kotor2, and I'd like to see the old republic tag extend rather than making a new one for the second game. I want meetra surik in my Revan team and I want it to slap harder than Nihilus slapped a planet on his average Tuesday afternoon I'd take Kreia as a marquee, Meetra as a conquest unit, a visas rework with an omi + a few others and thats enough for a legendary confrontation
Only a Matter of time untill she'll get a rework. It's hard to believe they'll release the sith triumvirate and visas marr and stop there with the KOTOR2 content. There will be a time, but not now atleast, We still expect to get Ahsoka TV show content after the Phantom Menace stuff, I suspect we'll get Star Wars outlaws content later 2025 i'd expect KOTOR content around early next year... KOTOR2's 20th anniversary will be in December 2024, so if they'll honor the Anniversaries, then i bet we'll get Old Republic faction content early next year. Meetra Surik will be a tough Cookie. Yes, the jedi exile is Legends-Canonically Female, but she got many Faces. Only on the wiki it clearly states that she has: Brown Hair, a Cyan Lightsaber (Like the Lightsaber that General Kenobi had but is now fixed) and Jedi Robes. There are many artwork out there, but her Face would be the hardest part, unlike Revan, She has no Mask to hide her face, unless they can cover it up with a Hood.
@@galacticfirefly6060also no jedi from kotor 2 has a canonical lightsaber color, nobody from the ebon hawk squad or the lost jedi its random every playthrough, theres also the problem of creating fitting kits for the trainable jedi or the question of everybodies fluctuating alignments excluding kreia
@@keklord4128 indeed, only hting i can think of is if they make Meetra Surik a Galactic Legend, her ultimate Allow her to choose either dark side or Light side. and Transform those KOTOR2 companions and give them abilities based on the Allignment Easy to give all COmpanions who can become force sensitive Red sabers for Dark Side. But for Light Side, they can give them based on their class, If i'm not mistaken: Atton Rand becomes a Jedi Sentinel = Yellow Lightsaber Disciple becomes a Consular = Green Lightsaber Handmaiden becomes a Jedi guardian = Blue Lightsaber Mira becomes also a jedi sentinel = Yellow Lightsaber Bao-Dur becomes jedi Guardian = Blue Lightsaber Based on the classes. But i don't think CG will go that far with a Meetra Surik GL. she should atleast be Conquest to lift Old Republic or be a Legendary/Epic Confrontation/Legacy
Am I the only one that uses 2nd sister instead of 8th brother? Got her to R7 to beat the events for GI, and now use her in the Reva mission with 100% success. The fact she’s a pilot is a bonus.
for the endor raid, teebo or scout for the 2nd team? I had teebo at gear 5 so worth more to get a little more for those juicy points. Asking about just bringing to G12
The only good thing about omega is she makes Wrecker pre taunt which could be useful if say you’re using them of D or facing other teams u need Wrecker to pre taunt. Other than that meh.
I think I agree in the "hot" take about visas. Sure, she's nice to have, but if the starkiller battle goes the way it should, Visas never does much to help. She's only there to trigger SK's ability. So while she can be helpful, I agree, you don't NEED her.
She adds a lot of defensive viability. If you don’t get everyone dead quick enough, you get punished with the revives. Yes you don’t need her per se, but I’d rather have her than not
I see Talia as the 5th spot in a lot of nightsister comps instead of zombie…. I see zombie more, but Talia does make a good 5th. The acolyte or the initiate are the real bad ones
Whats the point in the game adding boba scion of jango? Also i pretty much agree with everything here except for the inquisitor (probe droid idk how ill ever get it but why not if its good) because well the empire is the reason why i love star wars lol and mace windu to complete my clone and jedi teams and also its samuel L Jackson 😂
I mean saying ten characters you don't need is a little misleading. 10 characters you don't need to upgrade beyond journey requirements would be better. Yes, once you get Reva, second sister goes off the team, but Interceptor is still an amazing ship on a Chimaera fleet. I wouldn't really call any character that you need to take to gear 5 for a journey useless, plus, my guild id only getting 3-6 Reva shards a RoTE, so second sister will be used on my GI team until then. I like using Mace on my QGJ (hot take) team to draw out the battle and give Anakin more hit time. He's still relic 3 and probably won't go higher unless I hit the lottery, but he has his uses. I agree with most of the rest. I do get use out of Visas on my SK team, but if you get the TM train rolling quick enough, she's just a spot filler. Her revive is only a break in case of emergency if Palp gets yeeted by Rey.
I am sorry Nooch but Mace is valuable in a lot of teams to the point you very much need him. People have mentioned many teams he is good in but an additional team is Kel's team in TW. Mace is pulled in many directions in multiple game modes at all levels and the fact that he is easy to obtain early on makes him even more valuable.
@@NOOCH2GUD No, most people have him, just not 7 star, however, you can still gear him up and apply his zetas and omis, so most people could form the team, they just haven't yet for various reasons such as; doing other big farms, they don't realize how good he is in general, they didn't realize he's still good at 3 stars, or they just dont have the resources yet; but could get him relatively easily if they started farming
@niccologregorutti9309 its more challenging with ben solo on the team, but since LSB, a LOT of players have Rey without him. And i dont know that my success rates are greatly impacted either way.
When you have characters like kit fisto on the roster, putting mace in here is kinda silly. He's pretty good, pulls his weight in multiple lineups. It's a bad choice
@@mattt2277it’s characters you don’t need. Obviously there’s much worse characters, but there’s a lot of characters that seem good that aren’t necessarily worth it. This is, in nooches opinion, some on that list
2nd sister is an amazing pilot. Mace is really good since his rework. Soj can take down GLs with his omi in TW. Your title is a bit misleading, if this is meant for new players, why not add that in there?
🤓 well, actually, if you put Zaalbar and Mission up to Relic 9 and 8 respectively under a relic 8 Qi'ra lead, they still lose to just about everything. So they are, without a doubt, the best team to invest in. And I use my R8 Zaalbar all the time in TB, in operations.... I can't disagree with most of your list. I shamefully have some characters at high relics, 😷 Zaalbar, but find ways to use them inventively. Qi'ra, Big Z, Mission, Qu'ill and IG11 can trip people up on defense. Mace is the one I'd both agree and disagree about. Mace is a secondary tank, so in that regards, you're right. But at higher levels of play, he's critical for a JKL JKC Malgus counter, because he reduces the max health on Malgus, allowing you to eventually win.
you can live without all of these but i have to say. Boba and mace are both very nice to have. Boba with left over scoundrels beats gls in tw. And mace well hes a nice tank. I use him with starkiller. But i could live without them. Starkiller i could use old ben and tw is not really usefull.
Okey now i need to say something: you straight up wrong. Saying that Mace, Omega and Tie Interceptor aren't needed or important is a lie. Tie Interceptor is a key to beat S tier fleets. It reduce cooldown of Chimera which allow you to have instant reiforcement brining Tie Defender, and also speed up its instakill. Mace is a great jedi Tank, with ability block on basic, annoying taunt, buff dispell, stun, ignoring taunt for Shatterpoint, passing tm, and one of the most important in malgus battle: reducing max health and defense. Omega is just fifth bad batch member which turns on more benefits of bad batch team e.x. pretaunt on wrecker. Plugging cody here is not ideal... I recommend doing more research before you do those kind of videos or if you not have streagth to read those kits, then don't do those videos.
Lying implies intent. We just disagree, and may also be talking to different audiences. I think I've also been broadly misinterpreted, but I'll address it soon.
My Roast of these characters: Zeb is only useful as a crew member, on a so-so ship. Teebo is needed as platoon in rote and is a current raid character, but useless unless you have an Ewok fetish. I didn't even use mission to get revan or Malak, she is still at level 65. Zalbar g12 and no zeta, unless you build a wookie team, but why would you? Omega is NO-mega. Im farming bad batch except omega, ill use shakti with them. Visas is a pretty useful character, but in a different game. Old Boba is as good as his series was....not very. Talia lost her job to a zombie. Literally not as useful as a dead person. Oh and finally, you take that back you mean man! Mace is awesome, he has the lightsaber that says BMF! On it. You show that man some respeck!
I was all set to say this is a 100% accurate vid until Mace. Mace IS useful.
so you NEED him? :)
@@NOOCH2GUD I do NEED him to have a good tank/jedi/galactic republic to plug in for GAC/TW/TB i never dont use him. wether its with padme because GK is with JMK, or with qui gon. so many teams he can be plugged into. you can even put him with SK.
@@NOOCH2GUDyes tor JMK req and his ship. And he is one of the most plug and play characters.
@@NOOCH2GUDi am very surprised here. he is very plug in play can be in starkiller line ups he makes Qui gon omni battles more annoying and is very good with jmk and padme and very good in jedi teams. Since you need for jmk you might wanna use him
@NOOCH2GUD Currently yes, he is an AMAZING addition to qui gon team and also padme, i use him every gac. When cal comes back I'll use him with cal
Mace is an extremly good charachter imo, removing stealth, shatterpoint (max health reduction), stuns and calling assist as well as ability block on basic, and he does good damage, for my account i absolutely do NEED him :)
Edit: i even forgot about the turn metre swap lol
And if you have his omi and kerlan with omi, you are a GOAT for you guild at guild wars
These lists should be split. There's a world of difference between "level for an unlock then quit" and "don't bother at all"
I agree with most of these but putting Mace in this list is harsh, his shatterpoint is incredibly useful imo.
and you NEED him? :)
@@NOOCH2GUDI NEEEED him if I wanna unlock a top 3 GL 😜
@@NOOCH2GUDsilly rebuttal, you don’t NEED any character in the game
@@NOOCH2GUDDo you really need any character in the game. Mace windu doesn't deserve to be on this list.#justice for mace
i was all with you until you mentioned Second sister and Mace windu. Second sister has one of the best ships in the game so the grind is worth it. Without her ship Chimera would be such a good fleet. Mace plug in play in every jedi/galactic republic team
I think Visas actually add quite a lot to Starkiller team
I mean, if suggestions are adding scav Rey to SK, that's a big L
Outside of the ocasional revive, the real deal for me is the cleanse on the basic
Had saved me several time clearing the dazes and AB from my team
I use SK with Scav since unlocked last year. Barely lost, and if so usually due to early Whirlwind from Rey...whic cannot be revived anyway. I am glad I did not follow through to relic Visas...
I use SK with Scav since unlocked last year. Barely lost, and if so usually due to early Whirlwind from Rey...whic cannot be revived anyway. I am glad I did not follow through to relic Visas...
Ik im late, but dazes on SK team? The ones he gives immunity to?
@somethingstrange-jh9ff You are right, on the dazes part I must have been referring to Malicos ocassional use
CG should give Zeb the Rebel Fighter tag. Everyone else in the team save Hera has an additional tag.
Homie said congratulations so many times he started to convince me he was actually happy for me
congratulations!
@@NOOCH2GUD 🤣
Mace in a Kelleran Beq team is a monster if you're into TW
yes - end game
Eeth Koth, Kit Fisto, and Ima Gun Di.
zaalbar and mission together on the tarful team is incredibly underrated.
People sleep on zeb’s extra protection. He makes every pve battle easier. Sabine melts in conquest, assault battles, galactic challenge with zeb, I plug in play him in all phoenix battles.
that and the fact that he allows you to stunlock the entire enemy team with phoenix due to his stun on basic, plus the stagger is pretty nice
Imperial Probe Droid is needed for Separatist Command Mission in Geonosis Separatist Might. It needs 6 stars only - no gear, no abilities and no levels. Four(?) guild members need to farm it to 6 stars so your guild gets full benefit of the Hailfire Tank to get Wat shards. Since guilds can change or members do not contribute (like deploying too many other characters), you need a few spares in the guild.
Visa Marr is also in a platoon for the other Geo TB. But that is just a temporary TB until your guild gets over 200 million GP for RotE.
Im only going to argue with you because you mentioned it
Zeb - sabine will go with the bo squad eventually making room for him, the protection recovery is op when you catch a tm loop.
Teebo - lead has got me most of my stealth feats for gc and if you throw a teebo lead ewoks it stops the nest counter
Zaalbar/mission - op on tarful
Omega - very useful to get cat to waste her force leap so you can mando snipe counter cat into gas auto jml
Visas - revieve will never go out of style, espeically a non faction specific one
Boba fett - makes the top 16 tw gauntlet teams, pretty much a guaranteed win. Lets you get use out of tusken omicrons.
Second sister - tie interceptor is a top 10 ship
Probe droid - eventually itll have another datacron I guess?
Talia - one of the few dark side healers.. really trying here
Mace - part of the budget maglus counter, op in tw, counter on basic applying ability block, tm swap. Shatterpoint is one of the best abilities in the game hands down. You can put mace on almost any jedi team and its a multi layered improvement. His rework taught this butter knife how to speak swiss.
His ship - yeaa you're right
no, sabine does not go with bo
Tarrful sucks. Absolutely not worth any investment, and not a reason to gear up Mission and Zaalbar past 17,500
@@ssoulzz_ he's a fantastic backwall team and his omi slaps
@@ssoulzz_ you wouldn't say that if you played high level tw
@@Opeon1 maybe in bronzium
I play since 2016 (had 4 long breaks) and Teebo is kinda nostalgic because he was vital to do Rancor raid back then. It was ridiculous and fun at same time. My Rancor team was like Teebo, Qui Gon Jin, Clone Wars Chewie, Rex and Geonosian Soldier. The goal was to not give Rancor any turn, and this team could solo the entire raid, but I never leveled them enough so my record was like 9.2m of 10m.
This is actually really helpful for mid game where you are looking at these characters and considering building them cause you think they will be good.
You could need endurance if you’re rushing GAS and you can’t use negotiator for the ship part
Really the only small argument for Zeb is that he is a pilot.
And essential for the third sister counter
I mean Mace is rl good, he's more about a supporting tank more than straight up tanking. He reduce max health, offense, removing turn meter and gaining it, as well as swapping turn meter. His taunt is unique tho :v
Thank you for this - there are some who I will still get and work on because I love them, but it's great getting an upfront warning about some of the others so I never waste any resources on them as sometimes, as a player who loves collecting these heroes, I might be tempted to get a certain character, but in SWGOH there's always someone else who I can go for instead!
Omega goes well with bad batch for the zeffo special mission for mk2 tokens, and BB are the best clones for the mission. If you're in a pve guild, i would say you need her
I quit playing this about 4 years ago and it seems like they reworked the entire game, thank you for these videos they're helping me get back into the swing of things now
Not needed BUT
Mission & Big Z - scoundrel tag
Visas - Juhanicron synergy(OR)
Mace - Crit avoid on mastery which is usually for support tag
Idk I would disagree about visas. Just the threat of her revive adds another layer to the team you can’t ignore. If scavenger Rey is on the team you can just ignore her to focus Mara jade or starkiller. If visas mar is hella beefy she buys more time for the team to cause chaos.
All fun and games till the Legendary event for Crosshairs requires an R9 Omega lol
mace is a defensive/offense menace on qui/kelleran gac omi and on a kelleran tw omi
mace can be used with sk and rey too
i had 8 defensive wins on tw using rey and mace omi
95% (plus) of players do not have Kelleran Beq.
thats wrong nearly everyone has Beq and at g11 with his omi 3* hes better than 90% of the teams in TW and with mace omi hes crazy
Zalbar and mission cause a lot of damage when they are together especially with Onassi in the leader spot . Everytime one attacks the other attacks as well
We need to get a “congratulations” counter in the vid!
I thought characters like CUP would be here. A lot of the characters in this video we NEED for events or journeys. Are there any characters that are 100% useless and not needed for anything?
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@@NOOCH2GUD - Wow nice! And only a couple months old. Somehow I missed that video. Thanks!
Visas seems like THE LS UFU imo. The revives and the armor pen are truly valuable.
Mace is kinda crazy, but the otherwise I agree with these for the most part. Teebo, as someone else mentioned, is nice for stealth feats, but you really don’t need to gear him for that much at all. Visas has definitely saved my Starkiller squad a few times. Unfortunately I’m planning on gearing at least a couple of these up for RotE platoons (or boxes or whatever else people call them.)
I use zeb in my Phoenix squad over using Sabine except in rare scenarios like dealing with a KRU FO team. Daze stuns a stagger and extra max protection on his unique gives the whole Phoenix squad extra survivability protection recovery works well with crex aoe daze. I’m 8mil GP and I use zeb in my offensive and defensive lineup works a lot better for me than Sabine who I can then plug and play with mandolorians. Zalbaar and mission can go into a old republic team under carth makes a meh/somewhat decent team. Also tb omicrons are only good if you have secured your omicrons and getting wins for TW/GAC. One TB omicron I recommend is OG Finn Omi was able to use it to get those extra TB points on combat missions for ROTE but 200,000 points isn’t that big of a increase. Only other ones that can be somewhat usable are the omicrons that are lined with special missions like Big Cals tb omi
This video is kind of a miss for me. There are characters like mace or visas who are main stays in meta teams (JML, JMK, or Padmè for the former, especially in TW and being the best option for SK without taking from other teams with the latter) that are compared to objective trash like teebo who actually serves no function. Also stuff like second sister whos a bad character but has a very powerful ship that does actually make a pretty big difference. Theres also this odd passive aggressive tone throughout the video, where you seem to want to anticipate potentail diagreement, and counter it by being incredibly demeaning and belittling. Im sure this wasnt intentional, this just wasnt a good watch imo, as I both disagree with half the content and find the way it was presented to be strangly hostile.
100% agree with this one
@@fabianweller6077you guys need to relax haha I thought it was a good vid. Nothing about the vid was condescending, don't take it personal haha. I'm guessing you felt attacked because you wasted gear on all these toons.
@@masternamer9399 You literally offered nothing of substance in your comment and cannot stand when your favorit youtuber is offered goodfaith constructive criticism. Though you are subscribed to dojadog, so its no suprising you cant think for yourself.
Sheesh. Its a game
@@tophatowl6724 I offered you good faith constructive criticism and all you did was prove my point. Quit getting so offended haha
Crosshair is coming and I believe he will be a Bad batch lifter with Omega syngery to make her much better. By the end of this year.
him replacing tech on that team would be pretty lore accurate lol
This I gotta see, I R5 bad batch when the show came out, now seeing everyone 💩 on omega making me sad, but I keep saying Crosshair gonna make an appearance
I’m not trying to argue with you and would also love if you can also collect him, but how do you know he is? I mean, you once were able to fight against him in Conquest like a few months ago, but I haven’t seen him since then. Plus, in territory battles there are quite a few characters you can only fight against but cannot collect any shards (especially from the galactic republic)
Zeb is useful after rex, cause phoenix squad counters inquisition even with grand and reva, but theres need to have no jedi in squad, so you need team like hera, chopper, rex, sabine and zeb. With that you can even hit auto. Otherwise, with kenan and ezra, too much random and you can easily loose.
Zeb - ❌ - he hits for over 100k with his special on my Hera team with Crex. Definitely worth it IMO, especially cause Sabine goes better with Mando's.
Teeebo - ✅
Z and Mission - ❌- goes really nicely with Tarful, especially with TW omi.
Omega - ✅ - she is a luxury. Omi does make KAM mission much less RNG, but can be done with 501st and Shaak
Visas - ✅ - also a luxury, but not terrible.
SOJ - 💯 - Definitely a luxury, and honestly only mid tier in TW.
Second Sister - ✅ - definitely don't go past what is needed for GI.
Probe - ✅
Talia - ✅ - Merrin much better
Mace - ❌❌❌ - excellent character, I use him with Jedi, Padme, JML, JMK. Very versatile. TW omi very useful.
I would say there are many more characters like Teebo you could have brought up. SOME of these characters are needed for ships, GL's, or legendaries.
That makes them worth hearing and leveling IMO.
Nice vid though! 😊
I don't need zeb to hit for 100k when Sabine strips armour and staggers on an aoe
Sabine isn’t used on any Mando squad, especially not anymore.
Zeb doesn’t do anything to help with the goal of Phoenix, TM loop into oblivion, where Sabine does. If you’re using zeb with phoenix over Sabine, you’re either still farming Sabine to take his place, or you’re just playing it wrong.
The light speed bundles were really good. It got my guilds' activity up and lots of bonding moments gifting each other bundles. Unfortunately, i couldn't gift any or receive any my account was bugged the whole time.
Mace Windu makes countering Jabba with JMK in TW super-easy. It trivializes that encounter, even with Embo Omicron & Boush Datacron. So I'd say Windu is worth higher relics, he's an amazing toon.
Admiral trench would be one for another video, rogue one squad unless you have ad rad or you’re going for profunity
I think you’re right about visas . I didn’t buy any Jedi training rey bundles because I got her back in the day. I just got JML so r7 JTR instead of Visas is going to be fun on my star killer team
I actually used teebo after trying forever with the classic ewok team for 3p0. If you use his stuns smartly I finished it after two tries. All were g12 but he was g8
I would personally love some new monthly events with some of these characters like smugglers run that boosts mods or zetas.
I am about to unlock Boba and CAT and glad to know I can just build CAT and start Maul. Not building a waste character is a great savings
I put the TB omi on Kyle katarn. It's not super great but it has helped me get some extra points
Mace is very valid with shatterpoint, he can shred through most tanks
Jedi Knight Guardian and Nightsister Acolyte are not useful characters. You can feature them in your next video of not useful characters...lol
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Mace Windu has one of the best TW omicrons, and works perfect with Kelleran Beq Lead.
Zeb is needed for survivability in Phoenix team, sometimes his unique gives much more than 25% critical damage or whatever sabine gives. Mostly for defense, but sometimes on offense as well.
Zaalbar is fine in wookie team. You don't need him as you don't really need to have a wookie team on your account, but he's not useless. I belive Old Republic will get a lifter in the future, so he, Mission and Carth will have a new home in the game.
Visas - yeah sure you can put any LS UFU in your SK squad, your GA opponents will be happy to see Rey or someone else there. Can't say she's crucial to the team, but that revive possibility and overall survivability she provides is much better.
Boba Fett could be out of this list if he required less kyros to get geared up, so whatever.
Second sister IS needed to get GI, you need to have her at r5. Can't argue about gearing her up even higher, you don't even need her zeta to be on, not even for her ship.
Mace is an amazing and pretty annoying tank for JMK, Padme, OmiQGJ, Keleran Bek and other GR or Jedi teams. Also his capital ship is quite good too, I was able to clear ROTE battles with it and standard GR fleet, which for some reason I couldn't do with Negotiator. And in PvP, really useful for extreme fleet cleanups, like, the last option you have and it might give you a win.
Boba fett scion on Jango isn’t as bad as people think. He’s pretty damn good in fact it’s just for the price it’s not worth it at all. But he’s strong. Just wish he was given an easier kit to take better advantage of.
The amount of times you have to say "you love kotor, congrats" hurts the soul
I have 334 Boba Scion of Jango. Still haven’t activated him
Thought I put shards in the post. Apparently I didn’t
Bro missed the JMK-Mace-Meta in TW
I stay away from jedi on the phoenix team since inquisitors have anti jedi
Still dont have captian rex for that phoniex team. Should be accelerated soon
So, My two disagreements are Mace and Visas. Visas though, I do agree with you that she's more of a nicety, but I'd say she's better than wasting on Scav Rey or something. As for Mace, he is a great plug n play Jedi in any GR team. Even with mine at g12 he's doing work.
What frustrates me, is the fact that I agree about Boba Fett, but the catch is that I invested all 3 omicron but now don’t use it as much as I should. Everyone made him seem like a GL in Team War, but then it’s like I still need BAM and Fennic so it’s complicated feeling. I agree but also gotta defend his awesomeness from the show lmao
We use him to reliably eliminate a Lord Vader wall in TW……that’s about it. BUT it needs a whole a guild with him geared and a high relic Fennec.
What about cup, rose, ig86, Jedi guardian, ugnaught, and the entire Solo team?
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It's so weird that Visas Marr has no synergy with Nihilus, the sith trio or even has a Old Republic tag.
Makes me so suspicious that we'll get KOTOR2 content in the future and that they put Visas Marr in the freezer.
Do hope they give us more; sith triumvirate are kotor2, and I'd like to see the old republic tag extend rather than making a new one for the second game. I want meetra surik in my Revan team and I want it to slap harder than Nihilus slapped a planet on his average Tuesday afternoon
I'd take Kreia as a marquee, Meetra as a conquest unit, a visas rework with an omi + a few others and thats enough for a legendary confrontation
She's crap honestly and I gave her a ton of good mods and she wouldn't go past 2000 gp totally useless
Only a Matter of time untill she'll get a rework.
It's hard to believe they'll release the sith triumvirate and visas marr and stop there with the KOTOR2 content.
There will be a time, but not now atleast,
We still expect to get Ahsoka TV show content after the Phantom Menace stuff, I suspect we'll get Star Wars outlaws content later 2025
i'd expect KOTOR content around early next year...
KOTOR2's 20th anniversary will be in December 2024, so if they'll honor the Anniversaries, then i bet we'll get Old Republic faction content early next year.
Meetra Surik will be a tough Cookie. Yes, the jedi exile is Legends-Canonically Female, but she got many Faces.
Only on the wiki it clearly states that she has: Brown Hair, a Cyan Lightsaber (Like the Lightsaber that General Kenobi had but is now fixed) and Jedi Robes.
There are many artwork out there, but her Face would be the hardest part, unlike Revan, She has no Mask to hide her face, unless they can cover it up with a Hood.
@@galacticfirefly6060also no jedi from kotor 2 has a canonical lightsaber color, nobody from the ebon hawk squad or the lost jedi its random every playthrough, theres also the problem of creating fitting kits for the trainable jedi or the question of everybodies fluctuating alignments excluding kreia
@@keklord4128 indeed, only hting i can think of is if they make Meetra Surik a Galactic Legend, her ultimate Allow her to choose either dark side or Light side. and Transform those KOTOR2 companions and give them abilities based on the Allignment
Easy to give all COmpanions who can become force sensitive Red sabers for Dark Side.
But for Light Side, they can give them based on their class, If i'm not mistaken:
Atton Rand becomes a Jedi Sentinel = Yellow Lightsaber
Disciple becomes a Consular = Green Lightsaber
Handmaiden becomes a Jedi guardian = Blue Lightsaber
Mira becomes also a jedi sentinel = Yellow Lightsaber
Bao-Dur becomes jedi Guardian = Blue Lightsaber
Based on the classes.
But i don't think CG will go that far with a Meetra Surik GL. she should atleast be Conquest to lift Old Republic or be a Legendary/Epic Confrontation/Legacy
Is that a new piece of end credit music?
Is the endurance that bad even when fully upgraded?
Am I the only one that uses 2nd sister instead of 8th brother? Got her to R7 to beat the events for GI, and now use her in the Reva mission with 100% success. The fact she’s a pilot is a bonus.
How does scion of jango do in a tusken team? Doesn't he have some synergy with them?
for the endor raid, teebo or scout for the 2nd team? I had teebo at gear 5 so worth more to get a little more for those juicy points. Asking about just bringing to G12
The only good thing about omega is she makes Wrecker pre taunt which could be useful if say you’re using them of D or facing other teams u need Wrecker to pre taunt. Other than that meh.
I think I agree in the "hot" take about visas. Sure, she's nice to have, but if the starkiller battle goes the way it should, Visas never does much to help. She's only there to trigger SK's ability. So while she can be helpful, I agree, you don't NEED her.
She adds a lot of defensive viability. If you don’t get everyone dead quick enough, you get punished with the revives.
Yes you don’t need her per se, but I’d rather have her than not
- you have no real reason to relic up Mace
- Kerlan Beck
- What?
- Kerlan Beck team. Their omics made like "match made in heaven"
Okay im gonna make a video about this. Sheesh. Lol
This cyber attack has my SWGOH down for the past 36 hours
I see Talia as the 5th spot in a lot of nightsister comps instead of zombie…. I see zombie more, but Talia does make a good 5th. The acolyte or the initiate are the real bad ones
Whats the point in the game adding boba scion of jango?
Also i pretty much agree with everything here except for the inquisitor (probe droid idk how ill ever get it but why not if its good) because well the empire is the reason why i love star wars lol and mace windu to complete my clone and jedi teams and also its samuel L Jackson 😂
Ugnaught and the assassin droid are my only additions 😂
ive been congratulated a lot in this video🤣
omega is pretty good for ki adi mundi special mission
I mean saying ten characters you don't need is a little misleading. 10 characters you don't need to upgrade beyond journey requirements would be better. Yes, once you get Reva, second sister goes off the team, but Interceptor is still an amazing ship on a Chimaera fleet. I wouldn't really call any character that you need to take to gear 5 for a journey useless, plus, my guild id only getting 3-6 Reva shards a RoTE, so second sister will be used on my GI team until then. I like using Mace on my QGJ (hot take) team to draw out the battle and give Anakin more hit time. He's still relic 3 and probably won't go higher unless I hit the lottery, but he has his uses. I agree with most of the rest. I do get use out of Visas on my SK team, but if you get the TM train rolling quick enough, she's just a spot filler. Her revive is only a break in case of emergency if Palp gets yeeted by Rey.
I'll work on my titles - let me go see if Michael Scott is available to help....
@@NOOCH2GUD He'll just delegate it to Dwight...
You gotta pass that into your number 2 guy in the office, other wise Jan will end up hearing about it and that’ll just be more of an issue…
I am sorry Nooch but Mace is valuable in a lot of teams to the point you very much need him. People have mentioned many teams he is good in but an additional team is Kel's team in TW. Mace is pulled in many directions in multiple game modes at all levels and the fact that he is easy to obtain early on makes him even more valuable.
For the 3% of you who have Kelleran Beq - yup. Requirement
@@NOOCH2GUD No, most people have him, just not 7 star, however, you can still gear him up and apply his zetas and omis, so most people could form the team, they just haven't yet for various reasons such as; doing other big farms, they don't realize how good he is in general, they didn't realize he's still good at 3 stars, or they just dont have the resources yet; but could get him relatively easily if they started farming
Isn't Visas Marr almost required for the Starkiller team to work efficiently?
Been going fine for me without her
@@NOOCH2GUD so I assume you use JTR in her place right? Because CAT and CLS are placed in other teams so I don't see many other choices
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@niccologregorutti9309 its more challenging with ben solo on the team, but since LSB, a LOT of players have Rey without him. And i dont know that my success rates are greatly impacted either way.
Teebo doing the Rancor is classic 👌🏻
I knew I had a reason my teebo was gear 8
Is cal kestis a decent ufu for starkiller team?
Poor Teebo... He was my boy for the Rancor.
I put the omicron on Omega and then the week after they released ROTE
Daymit, I just reliced Visas (-: while haveing S-Rey from the LS bundles.
Thanks for the list though ^^
Actually you need all of these ranked because of ROTE platoons
Talia is a good stepping stone choice until you get Merrin geared up. She’s cheap and easy to get, whereas merrin is a long farm😢
I have a team of unaligned force users that visas mar does incredible in.
When you have characters like kit fisto on the roster, putting mace in here is kinda silly. He's pretty good, pulls his weight in multiple lineups. It's a bad choice
Okay- I'll make the boring video for everyone that talks about complete schlocks. should be fun. :)
@NOOCH2GUD well you titled it the 10 most useless characters. Let's be honest, there are many far worse ones out there
@@mattt2277it’s characters you don’t need. Obviously there’s much worse characters, but there’s a lot of characters that seem good that aren’t necessarily worth it. This is, in nooches opinion, some on that list
I only have one thing to say. Congratulations!
2nd sister is an amazing pilot. Mace is really good since his rework. Soj can take down GLs with his omi in TW. Your title is a bit misleading, if this is meant for new players, why not add that in there?
🤓 well, actually, if you put Zaalbar and Mission up to Relic 9 and 8 respectively under a relic 8 Qi'ra lead, they still lose to just about everything. So they are, without a doubt, the best team to invest in. And I use my R8 Zaalbar all the time in TB, in operations....
I can't disagree with most of your list. I shamefully have some characters at high relics, 😷 Zaalbar, but find ways to use them inventively. Qi'ra, Big Z, Mission, Qu'ill and IG11 can trip people up on defense. Mace is the one I'd both agree and disagree about. Mace is a secondary tank, so in that regards, you're right. But at higher levels of play, he's critical for a JKL JKC Malgus counter, because he reduces the max health on Malgus, allowing you to eventually win.
“cOngRatULaTioNs”
Don't we need zed for Ghost? Or is that ship not worth it either?
Great guide Nooch 👍👍 lol please do more of this.
Mace is still really good, you should farm him eventually other than just the fact he's a req
you can live without all of these but i have to say. Boba and mace are both very nice to have. Boba with left over scoundrels beats gls in tw. And mace well hes a nice tank. I use him with starkiller. But i could live without them. Starkiller i could use old ben and tw is not really usefull.
Nice and accurate video, but imo Mace is still useful
Have a good day ❤
You should have added "according to my opinion " in the title.
This would seem to be implied in every video anyone has ever made about any game.
@@NOOCH2GUD in a perfect world yes.
Mace is still great on a JKR team. But that's because I don't have JKL
Okey now i need to say something: you straight up wrong. Saying that Mace, Omega and Tie Interceptor aren't needed or important is a lie.
Tie Interceptor is a key to beat S tier fleets. It reduce cooldown of Chimera which allow you to have instant reiforcement brining Tie Defender, and also speed up its instakill.
Mace is a great jedi Tank, with ability block on basic, annoying taunt, buff dispell, stun, ignoring taunt for Shatterpoint, passing tm, and one of the most important in malgus battle: reducing max health and defense.
Omega is just fifth bad batch member which turns on more benefits of bad batch team e.x. pretaunt on wrecker. Plugging cody here is not ideal...
I recommend doing more research before you do those kind of videos or if you not have streagth to read those kits, then don't do those videos.
Lying implies intent. We just disagree, and may also be talking to different audiences. I think I've also been broadly misinterpreted, but I'll address it soon.
This video should be renamed, as many of these characters are required for other characters or ships.
hahahhahah. no
My Roast of these characters:
Zeb is only useful as a crew member, on a so-so ship. Teebo is needed as platoon in rote and is a current raid character, but useless unless you have an Ewok fetish. I didn't even use mission to get revan or Malak, she is still at level 65. Zalbar g12 and no zeta, unless you build a wookie team, but why would you? Omega is NO-mega. Im farming bad batch except omega, ill use shakti with them. Visas is a pretty useful character, but in a different game. Old Boba is as good as his series was....not very. Talia lost her job to a zombie. Literally not as useful as a dead person. Oh and finally, you take that back you mean man! Mace is awesome, he has the lightsaber that says BMF! On it. You show that man some respeck!
I'm going to R9 those characters now
What’s with all the hate/hostile comments.. it’s just Nooch's honest opinion guys. 😭🙏🏻
Keep up the great work Nooch. 💜
Omega is the queen of characters that you don’t need.