this pen writes so beautifully for my taste, it has the flow and ink feeling of a fountain pen without the mess. BUT, and this is a Huge problem in my opinion. the refills DO NOT LAST. i’ve had this pen since november and i’d say i’ve written about 30 pages maximum before i needed a refill. i find that to be outrageous, especially since the refills cost around 7 euros each. i’m super picky about writing all my notes in the same pen for one subject, and i really don’t feel like changing in the middle of my notes. this is especially disappointing since caran d’ache advertises how many hundreds of pages you can write with their regular pens, why doesn’t this one even come near a tenth of that longevity, especially for being a relatively expensive product for the brand
I don't get it. The ballpoint works just fine with Parker/Schneider/whatever G2 gel refills, so the only reason this one isn't called an oversize is because the Swiss don't officially acknowledge the existence of other refills?
Yes I have a normal g2 refill on my normal 849 as well, which is why this pen came as a surprise to me. I would agree on a name like the “849 XL” over rollerball
The Cd'A roller refill is clearly a g2 standard, which already works fine in the original 849 pen if you align it properly (meaning the plastic piece on the back of the g2 refill needs to interlock with the four juts on the pen's metal plunger). So why pay extra? Besides, the fatter body of the 849 rollerball pen doesn't look quite as nice. Give me the classic 849, and I'll swap out the old Goliath for a Parker gel. Works like a charm. What I really would have wanted from Cd'A is a gel or rollerball version of the Goliath refill. But alas, instead we get a less svelte, significantly pricier version of the 849 that now "officially" fits a Parker-style refill. *sigh*
Surprised you didnt get into this during your comparison, but can you lop off the top of the rollerball refill to make it fit into the standard 849 since you mentioned that it's pretty much a parker g2 style cartridge?
Maybe I missed it in this video, but would the refill for the rollerball fit in the original 849? I'm tired of having to clip the end of a non-caran refill. Thanks!
Hi, I have a very slanted hand position when writing, since I come from the fountain pen and have the problem that the 849 ballpoint pen scratches heavily on the paper. Would I also have the problem with the rollerball?
Hey sal, so I didn't had anything to do this weekend and was revisiting some of your old videos, so I had a request. If it's possible can you make one or more videos regarding how you have salvaged/restored some of the pens you bought in the pen lot? It would be a nice informative video I think. Thanks.
@@unsharpen no need to flim the restoration as a whole. I think it's more than enough if you just showcased each pen and state what you did with it to get it working. Sort of like how you showed the sheafer eye dropper conversion.
I have 849 ballpoint and indeed it's skinny and hard to convert using a Parker G2 refill. Caran D'ache refills on itself are not special. I prefere the Uniball Jetstream refill which is also available as Parker G2 refill (quite hard to get) So, I may do another try with a Caran D'ache Rollerball.
Hello! So you can’t use the Caran d’Ache ballpoint with a Parker-style refill? I thought you could and was about to buy it, so your comment might have just saved me quite some money 😬
@@LiviaBerenguel The Caran d’Ache rollerball (not the ballpoint) is using a Parker G2 refill. Caran d’Ache delivers a Parker G2 gell refill to their rollerball. Actually rolleball is just for the maketing and is confusing.
I love my 849 ballpoint. I hate the refill options, but once I saw that orange I knew I had to pick one up. Wish the rollerballs came in more color options, hopefully down the line. With the wider barrel, did you be any chance check if the Schmidt P8126 fits in it? That would make it a much more tempting offer, I'm always looking for a new pen to take the P8126.
@@dalegarcia4677 so does that mean you could put a ball point refill in this pen even though it's a rollerball? The "rollerball" just refers to the refill right?
So having now just gotten my rollerball and extra refills it works perfectly fine in the ballpoint no modification necessary, the key is to press down all the way when screwing the top back on while rotating and thats all there is to it.
@@TheOccasionalGentleman I'm new to these pens but it sounds like you know what you're about - can I ask you, would it be possible to put a ballpoint refill in this larger rollerball pen?
@@kateshearer9398 hadn't tried it until you mentioned it, and wasnt expecting it to work, but yes it does work albeit the tip doesn't stick out as far as normal because the refill for the ballpoint is shorter than the rollerball. Although I would never refill it with a ballpoint, it defeats the purpose of getting the rollerball to begin with. Overall the rollerball is much worse, its not as comfortable to hold and is terribly balanced it's extremely top heavy because the body has no weight to it and the screw top is extremely heavy. I would skip it altogether and just get rollerball refills for the standard 849.
1. Refill is made in Japan, and it's gel refill 2. Refill could be made by Ohto, and I'm sure same/similar of Monteverde I suggest you should check more carefully
this pen writes so beautifully for my taste, it has the flow and ink feeling of a fountain pen without the mess. BUT, and this is a Huge problem in my opinion. the refills DO NOT LAST. i’ve had this pen since november and i’d say i’ve written about 30 pages maximum before i needed a refill. i find that to be outrageous, especially since the refills cost around 7 euros each. i’m super picky about writing all my notes in the same pen for one subject, and i really don’t feel like changing in the middle of my notes. this is especially disappointing since caran d’ache advertises how many hundreds of pages you can write with their regular pens, why doesn’t this one even come near a tenth of that longevity, especially for being a relatively expensive product for the brand
I don't get it. The ballpoint works just fine with Parker/Schneider/whatever G2 gel refills, so the only reason this one isn't called an oversize is because the Swiss don't officially acknowledge the existence of other refills?
Yes I have a normal g2 refill on my normal 849 as well, which is why this pen came as a surprise to me. I would agree on a name like the “849 XL” over rollerball
The Cd'A roller refill is clearly a g2 standard, which already works fine in the original 849 pen if you align it properly (meaning the plastic piece on the back of the g2 refill needs to interlock with the four juts on the pen's metal plunger). So why pay extra? Besides, the fatter body of the 849 rollerball pen doesn't look quite as nice. Give me the classic 849, and I'll swap out the old Goliath for a Parker gel. Works like a charm. What I really would have wanted from Cd'A is a gel or rollerball version of the Goliath refill. But alas, instead we get a less svelte, significantly pricier version of the 849 that now "officially" fits a Parker-style refill. *sigh*
I've been hoping an XL size would get released like the Jotter.
Surprised you didnt get into this during your comparison, but can you lop off the top of the rollerball refill to make it fit into the standard 849 since you mentioned that it's pretty much a parker g2 style cartridge?
You finally bought it! I thought you won't gonna review it. In one of your old videos I commented about this pen.
How do you fell this ink for a left-handed?
I have problems with some inks because they last too much to get dry and I sweep it with the hand.
Thank you for the review, just bought one !
@@lightgathaarguments ?
Super useful as always. Curious to know what notebook you're using on this video. Love kraft paper notebooks and always on the lookout for them
It’s a Kleid yosekastationery.com/collections/notebook/products/kleid-kraft-work-memo-a6. It looks great. The paper is OK.
Maybe I missed it in this video, but would the refill for the rollerball fit in the original 849? I'm tired of having to clip the end of a non-caran refill. Thanks!
No the refills are not compatible
Not available where I live but I am gonna buy this when it became available. I came to like 849 but it is a bit small for me. This would do the trick.
Beautiful pens. Which of these models is closer in size to a Parker Jotter? Not the XL. The regular one.
The regular 849.
@@chocorose6544 thank you 👍🏻
Hi, I have a very slanted hand position when writing, since I come from the fountain pen and have the problem that the 849 ballpoint pen scratches heavily on the paper. Would I also have the problem with the rollerball?
Please compare this against the Jotter Xl.
Already in the works
Hey sal, so I didn't had anything to do this weekend and was revisiting some of your old videos, so I had a request. If it's possible can you make one or more videos regarding how you have salvaged/restored some of the pens you bought in the pen lot? It would be a nice informative video I think. Thanks.
I’ll check into this. I’ve never filmed a clean up or restoration.
@@unsharpen no need to flim the restoration as a whole. I think it's more than enough if you just showcased each pen and state what you did with it to get it working. Sort of like how you showed the sheafer eye dropper conversion.
I love my Lamy Swift full black capless rollerball. This Caran d'ache looks interesting. How would you compare its refill to the Lamy rollerball?
I prefer this one
Great videos !
Wow! Thank you for the support!
Great video bro! Also, I had a question, can the rotring 600 pens take Monteverde refills?
Tysm.
Yes. Anything in the Parker style will work.
I have 849 ballpoint and indeed it's skinny and hard to convert using a Parker G2 refill. Caran D'ache refills on itself are not special. I prefere the Uniball Jetstream refill which is also available as Parker G2 refill (quite hard to get)
So, I may do another try with a Caran D'ache Rollerball.
Hello! So you can’t use the Caran d’Ache ballpoint with a Parker-style refill? I thought you could and was about to buy it, so your comment might have just saved me quite some money 😬
@@LiviaBerenguel The Caran d’Ache rollerball (not the ballpoint) is using a Parker G2 refill. Caran d’Ache delivers a Parker G2 gell refill to their rollerball. Actually rolleball is just for the maketing and is confusing.
Any chance you have a video on weird unique pens? Something like the tombow airpress sort of weird.
ua-cam.com/video/fG_Kz_Q58fc/v-deo.html sure
Idk the ballpoint 849 design is something that looks better , larger rollerball version feels a bit off
Yes the aesthetics are slightly skewed but I thinks it still a good looking pen
I love my 849 ballpoint. I hate the refill options, but once I saw that orange I knew I had to pick one up. Wish the rollerballs came in more color options, hopefully down the line. With the wider barrel, did you be any chance check if the Schmidt P8126 fits in it? That would make it a much more tempting offer, I'm always looking for a new pen to take the P8126.
The pen uses standard Parker Refills... that means there are tons of options.
@@dalegarcia4677 so does that mean you could put a ball point refill in this pen even though it's a rollerball? The "rollerball" just refers to the refill right?
@@kateshearer9398 Right.
does pilot g2 fit in there
To me I always prefer a rollerball then ball point🙃🙂
Yeah absolutely, you don't need to press to much
Have you ever used rollerball-to-ballpoint adapters?
No. What do the look like?
Does the rollerball refill fit the 849 ballpoint?
No, unless you modify the top of the refill
So having now just gotten my rollerball and extra refills it works perfectly fine in the ballpoint no modification necessary, the key is to press down all the way when screwing the top back on while rotating and thats all there is to it.
@@TheOccasionalGentleman I'm new to these pens but it sounds like you know what you're about - can I ask you, would it be possible to put a ballpoint refill in this larger rollerball pen?
@@kateshearer9398 hadn't tried it until you mentioned it, and wasnt expecting it to work, but yes it does work albeit the tip doesn't stick out as far as normal because the refill for the ballpoint is shorter than the rollerball. Although I would never refill it with a ballpoint, it defeats the purpose of getting the rollerball to begin with. Overall the rollerball is much worse, its not as comfortable to hold and is terribly balanced it's extremely top heavy because the body has no weight to it and the screw top is extremely heavy. I would skip it altogether and just get rollerball refills for the standard 849.
@@TheOccasionalGentleman thanks so much. This is really helpful.
Will the twsbi precision a comparable pen to this?
Sort of. It’s more the size of the 849 ballpoint
Curious if Energel refills could be used?
No. Too long
Will this refill fit to a parker jotter?
Yes
1. Refill is made in Japan, and it's gel refill
2. Refill could be made by Ohto, and I'm sure same/similar of Monteverde
I suggest you should check more carefully
Check what? Who made it? It’s quite difficult and my initial search yielded no results.
@@unsharpen buy the refill spare part, easy. There is write Made in Japan. 100% sure Ohto and it's gel refill. same of Monteverde
Will this refill fit a parker pen?
I think it's a little short but can likely work with a piece of eraser behind it
Can these accept sharpie pen or energel refills
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