I don't think the snapdragon 778 is faster than the 870, the snapdragon 870 was literally marketed as a flagship grade chip over a year ago and the snapdragon 778 as a midrange chip plus the snapdragon 870 edges up in performance like 20-30% both in CPU and GPU and also in some speed test
maybe he meant the stability and heat generation but pocos vapor chamber just rocks i own poco f4 and did several throtling test 870 + vapor chamber rocks! idk maybe he just mentally ignorant or just lazy to check
I have tested both chipsets and just for info, the sd778 is a midrange chip, and the sd 870 is a 2 year old flagship chip, even though the size is different, the performance of flagship chip is incomparable to a midrange chip, so saying sd 778 is better than sd 870 is a really false claim. No hate.,love ur videos, just an honest feedback
870 is better than 888 and i can only see as SoC upgrade is dimensity 8100 but it will be -gcam and mediatek is just entering mid class market so poco just cant put TSMC's snap 8 gen1 cos its too, and 888 is worst SoC of all time so the only healthy choise is keeping the 870 otherthan (remember with poco X4 Pro jesus downgrade) so thats perceft 870! and 870 is flagshiip, better than 778g midrange and about 30-45% faster overal better 2. nd is OIS(optical image stabilisation) is thing that saves the cameras! no matter u have 200mp image sensor without OIS wouldbe worst in pratical use cases other than 64 with OIS! + poco is just can't make good processing at that price range phone so u hardcore u probably forget about standart camera app and install best gcam for poco f4 it will be massiveeeee improvement and be godlike with OIS u know LPDDR5 + UFS 3.1 + 870 + OIS + gcam + nice desing(subjective) + fast charge + nice Amoled E4 have it and it will be just ok :D
A great video but wish there was more to it especially the audio pickup on video and more of that weird warping effect on the main lens of the Poco F4.. Had those issues been fixed you know? And it would be nice if you can make a video of using Gcam on these two phones please. Cheers.
Interesting viewpoint to see this today, as I have ordered my second Poco F4, since my Poco F3 died. The price point between the Poco F4 and 12 Lite is nominal. However, the 12 Lite still seems to be a Lite vs the full. If I could afford well then the 13 Pro is what I would take. Again, photography is not really vastly different between both the F4 and 12 Lite. Battery capacity does and will matter, hopefully with the next edition of Xiaomi phones if they either improve the battery or the software to optimize and not drain - it will be a welcome option to look forward to.
Just saying, a gaming phone such as black shark 5 using sd870 had no problem running max settings 60 fps on genshin impact, and I don't think any gaming phone would use a midrange soc such as sd778G and it's not even the sd778G+ which is the slightly better version, tho i completely agree the rest of the video totally on spot i love the review, but if there's one thing i might disagree 778G is nowhere near an ex flagships soc with the likes of sd865+ or sd870
The speaker on the front facing camera was better on the f4 picture was very bright on the f4 not so good the 12 lite is the better phone in part the f4 has a couple of things going for it bigger screen bigger battery plus the 870 has a better better cpu and gpu score than the 778g I would go with the f4 depending on how many software updates it gets
Not an easy choice. However I would also pick XIAOMI. I have reviewed Poco f4 which was a great device but really looking forward to get my hands on XIAOMI 12 lite soon. Great review as always 👍👍🐱
Hello sir! I needed this comparison because I am having second thoughts about what of the 2 phones to get. It is also my first time watching one of your video and I love how unbiased you are from the two phones being reviewed! You definitely deserve a new subscriber! :)
@@secret1dentity synthetic tests on benchmarks doesn’t equate to real time test, and again, my question is do you have both phones to compare? If you do, feel free to do a video on it since you a very good at this tests smh
@@secret1dentity it is hard to admit that you don’t have the devices to make your “scientific “ claims? Know your facts and do your own testing before trying to “correct” people who spend their hard earn time and effort doing these reviews and videos for free to help people make a purchase decision
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If you are soo good at your facts go ahead and test them yourself and create your own comparison video and share it here then, I believe you will do such a better job than me 🙂👌
The thing is, video resolution dosn't matter. Dynamic Range matters. So many films are made in lower than 4k resolution. So why are you talking about resolution like it is a factor in how good a camera is. It's just a number. It's like megapixel count doesn't matter. My phone has more megapixel than my camera but the camera takes way better photos and videos, even if I just record in 1080p
Video resolution does play a role for many factor from sharpness and also compression dear boy, do your research before being a smart ass man, I shoot in 6k resolution for all of my videos and seen the difference in sharpness and UA-cam’s compression compare to shooting in 4k or 1080p, you do you and keep shooting in 1080p and upload it on Instagram or other social media platforms then you will see, smh
@@AdamLoboTV literally every movie in the internet and people watching it on 1080p@24 what are u talking about? so u just barking that u have 4K camera and claiming that u know everything and u are only techy man ? lol
@@AdamLoboTV I'm not being a smart ass man. I literally work in the TV industry and resolution is the least important camera specification. I don't have a problem with your video, i am just telling people in the comments about what is most important in relation to camera's. I have done my research thank you very much. Phone companies push more megapixels to push more sales but dynamic range improvements would have a much bigger impact on image quality. so no need to get smart with your "dear boy" comments. surprising to hear that from you tbh
Thank you for making video, It helped me a lot. Maybe my choice is xiaomi. Buying poco or redmi is bit like choosing Folkswagen intead Mercedes, They are same group but diffrent in a lot.
Poco F4 better for audio recording but why so white if Poco take picture, recording video and take selfie? Poco F4 have best n smooth gaming experience compare Xiaomi 12 lite have better camera compare Poco F4 but bad for video recording Xiaomi 12 lite sound to deep just like somebody block the mic
@@AdamLoboTV I have Mi 11 Lite 5G ( 5nm SD780G) and Poco F3 (SD870). In wild life extreme tests, Mi 11 Lite 5G best loop is 844, worst is 688, stability is 81,5%. Poco F3 best loop 1218, worst 1104, stability 90,6%. Both devices wormed up 40°.
@@IvanVuckovic1305 there you go, your answer is my point, don’t make assumptions when you don’t have these two devices to test especially in a real time test and not typical synthetic benchmarks
I have the mi 11 lite and 12 lite cameras are both almost the same, as described in the video, the 12 lite macro camera mode is very ugly much better than 11 Lite, I think the 12 lite upgrade is only on the processor, 67 fast charging, and of course the price. 108mp cameras and 32mp front camera are gimmicks, Hopefully Xiaomi provides a good software update to improve the good image processing😢
GSM Arena list the Poco F4 and M4 Pro as using the same OmniVision main camera sensor, no OIS on the M4 Pro. If accurate, it helps explain why the F4 is inconsistent. The F4 and 12 Lite both are forgettable phones.
Hey Adam, I totally agree with the picks in your video. I’m very disappointed poco didn’t use a different chip. I think they could’ve done much better. MACRO LENSES ARE THE MOST SHAMMY THINGS PHONE COMPANIES CAN DO. Oh well, I think I would choose some poco camera shots over the 12 lite but that is minor. Have an amazing day and 100k subs coming soon!
So guys? Which is your pick? 😎
Poco F4 for sure
F3 Vs Xiaomi 12 lite
Xiaomi 12 lite. ❤️
I will buy both! Poco for gaming; 12 lite for soc-med-calls-messengers
same as yours xiaomi 12lite.. how about xiaomi 11T dimensity 1200 vs xiaomi 12lite which would you choose?
I don't think the snapdragon 778 is faster than the 870, the snapdragon 870 was literally marketed as a flagship grade chip over a year ago and the snapdragon 778 as a midrange chip plus the snapdragon 870 edges up in performance like 20-30% both in CPU and GPU and also in some speed test
870 is factual better than 778.People complain about poco since it uses old chip but need to remember that 870 was stable than 888.
You're right
Definitely. 778 is tweaked 855, and 870 is 865, of course 865>855
I have 12 lite, snap870 is way way better. Its a flagship CPU, 778+ is a mid range
How come you are saying the 778g is a better chip? everywhere i look, the 870 has higher performance, whether its antutu or geekbench or 3dmark
maybe he meant the stability and heat generation but pocos vapor chamber just rocks i own poco f4 and did several throtling test 870 + vapor chamber rocks! idk maybe he just mentally ignorant or just lazy to check
I have tested both chipsets and just for info, the sd778 is a midrange chip, and the sd 870 is a 2 year old flagship chip, even though the size is different, the performance of flagship chip is incomparable to a midrange chip, so saying sd 778 is better than sd 870 is a really false claim. No hate.,love ur videos, just an honest feedback
I've researched and composted a lot about these two phones. Camera comes first for me. So I chose 12 lite.
870 is better than 888 and i can only see as SoC upgrade is dimensity 8100 but it will be -gcam and mediatek is just entering mid class market so poco just cant put TSMC's snap 8 gen1 cos its too, and 888 is worst SoC of all time so the only healthy choise is keeping the 870 otherthan (remember with poco X4 Pro jesus downgrade) so thats perceft 870! and 870 is flagshiip, better than 778g midrange and about 30-45% faster overal better 2. nd is OIS(optical image stabilisation) is thing that saves the cameras! no matter u have 200mp image sensor without OIS wouldbe worst in pratical use cases other than 64 with OIS! + poco is just can't make good processing at that price range phone so u hardcore u probably forget about standart camera app and install best gcam for poco f4 it will be massiveeeee improvement and be godlike with OIS u know LPDDR5 + UFS 3.1 + 870 + OIS + gcam + nice desing(subjective) + fast charge + nice Amoled E4 have it and it will be just ok :D
Nice compare, include on screen time
Long time 2/3hr Game any hitting issue..? & Battery Backup...?
Hi @adamLoboTV But is the Xiaomi 12 Lite worth the upgrade from poco f3?
Does the Malaysian version come with NFC for both phones?
A great video but wish there was more to it especially the audio pickup on video and more of that weird warping effect on the main lens of the Poco F4.. Had those issues been fixed you know? And it would be nice if you can make a video of using Gcam on these two phones please. Cheers.
Was the camera test done with the stock app? Maybe we could get better results in the POCO F4 with Gcam?
Gcam would be better
i swear, i watched again to hope that he does mentioned the OIS in the poco f4?? and poco F4 can record 4K@60 thats huge quession in centuries for me?
Dear can you please give your comments on honor 50 vs xiaomi 12lite
Solid comparison mate, thank you.
Does the 12 lite have super wallpapers?
it has, i am user
I really don't get why he says the chipset is better in the 12 lite! Like what!!!!???
Interesting viewpoint to see this today, as I have ordered my second Poco F4, since my Poco F3 died. The price point between the Poco F4 and 12 Lite is nominal. However, the 12 Lite still seems to be a Lite vs the full. If I could afford well then the 13 Pro is what I would take. Again, photography is not really vastly different between both the F4 and 12 Lite. Battery capacity does and will matter, hopefully with the next edition of Xiaomi phones if they either improve the battery or the software to optimize and not drain - it will be a welcome option to look forward to.
Just saying, a gaming phone such as black shark 5 using sd870 had no problem running max settings 60 fps on genshin impact, and I don't think any gaming phone would use a midrange soc such as sd778G and it's not even the sd778G+ which is the slightly better version, tho i completely agree the rest of the video totally on spot i love the review, but if there's one thing i might disagree 778G is nowhere near an ex flagships soc with the likes of sd865+ or sd870
The speaker on the front facing camera was better on the f4 picture was very bright on the f4 not so good the 12 lite is the better phone in part the f4 has a couple of things going for it bigger screen bigger battery plus the 870 has a better better cpu and gpu score than the 778g I would go with the f4 depending on how many software updates it gets
Thanks for the feedback
Poco F4 64MP Omnivision OV64B
Xiaomi 12 Lite Samsung ISOCELL HM2
Thanks for this info Dani 🙂
Can you do a comparison between Poco F4 and Realme GT Neo 2 thank youu
I like your reviews. Thank you for the hard work. Subscribed!
Thank you very much for the kind words and subscription too my friend, I appreciate you
Hello Adam, i have a big question. Best selfies are from xiaomi 11t pro or xiaomi 12 lite? Love your videos s2
Isn't the lower cup of 12 lite will take less battery life than f4 cpu does also the option of lowering screen hz on 12 lite saves energy 🤷
very nice review
Thank you for the review.😊🥰
You’re welcome buddy!
Not an easy choice. However I would also pick XIAOMI. I have reviewed Poco f4 which was a great device but really looking forward to get my hands on XIAOMI 12 lite soon.
Great review as always 👍👍🐱
Thanks for your feedback buddy
Great review!
Thanks!
870 best out there not heating up so much etc😀
Hello sir! I needed this comparison because I am having second thoughts about what of the 2 phones to get. It is also my first time watching one of your video and I love how unbiased you are from the two phones being reviewed! You definitely deserve a new subscriber! :)
778G is not better than 870. just cause a chipset is made on lower nm process doesnt mean its better. performance of 778G is actually inferior to 870.
Do you have both phones to do a real time test to compare?
@@AdamLoboTV check the benchmarks. 870 is about 15-20% faster than 778G
@@secret1dentity synthetic tests on benchmarks doesn’t equate to real time test, and again, my question is do you have both phones to compare? If you do, feel free to do a video on it since you a very good at this tests smh
@@AdamLoboTV is it so hard to admit youre wrong? the facts are out there, im not gonna waste more time arguing with you
@@secret1dentity it is hard to admit that you don’t have the devices to make your “scientific “ claims?
Know your facts and do your own testing before trying to “correct” people who spend their hard earn time and effort doing these reviews and videos for free to help people make a purchase decision
12 lite for me!
Thanks for your feedback buddy 😃
F4 rocks!!!
Where camera is better, poco f4 or Xiaomi 12 Lite?
The answer is in the video, that's why I did this video
f4 my choice
But yet the F4 beat the A52s in your comparison. So yeah, the 12 lite rocks in the photo and video department. I don't care about games. Great job,
Hey Adam can you make a video on poco X3 nfc Vs Pocof4 5g
Subscribing🙌 From Phil 😊I like your review/comparison format, so neat and straightforward and how you present your opinion, what I do really like the most is your natural humor, injected in the vid bit by bit😄 Anyways, very good comparison and I will be tuning in for future uploads😁❤
Hey buddy, thanks for your extensive feedback my friend, appreciate your kind words and support 🙂
The way you presenting your videos is something interesting to watch...love the W vibes❤️
Hey there, thank you man, glad to hear that!
SD870 is definitely atleast two tiers better than SD778G, let's get the fact straight here bro
If you are soo good at your facts go ahead and test them yourself and create your own comparison video and share it here then, I believe you will do such a better job than me 🙂👌
@@AdamLoboTV 870 better in any case this is facts 870 is literally flagship 778g is midrange so dont be dump ignorant
@@AdamLoboTV u just lazy to check it up!
@@AdamLoboTV in deinem Alter seine Fehler nicht einzugestehen und beleidigt zu spielen, zeugt von schwachem Charakter. Und ich bin älter als Du.
Xiaomi has a preferrable UI
And update redmi note 10 pro to android 13 speed and gaming wise😧
you're a great orator. great comparison
gotta love Adam's VS series
Thanks man!
Pls price in Nigeria
The thing is, video resolution dosn't matter. Dynamic Range matters. So many films are made in lower than 4k resolution. So why are you talking about resolution like it is a factor in how good a camera is. It's just a number. It's like megapixel count doesn't matter. My phone has more megapixel than my camera but the camera takes way better photos and videos, even if I just record in 1080p
Video resolution does play a role for many factor from sharpness and also compression dear boy, do your research before being a smart ass man, I shoot in 6k resolution for all of my videos and seen the difference in sharpness and UA-cam’s compression compare to shooting in 4k or 1080p, you do you and keep shooting in 1080p and upload it on Instagram or other social media platforms then you will see, smh
@@AdamLoboTV literally every movie in the internet and people watching it on 1080p@24 what are u talking about? so u just barking that u have 4K camera and claiming that u know everything and u are only techy man ? lol
@@AdamLoboTV I'm not being a smart ass man. I literally work in the TV industry and resolution is the least important camera specification. I don't have a problem with your video, i am just telling people in the comments about what is most important in relation to camera's. I have done my research thank you very much. Phone companies push more megapixels to push more sales but dynamic range improvements would have a much bigger impact on image quality. so no need to get smart with your "dear boy" comments. surprising to hear that from you tbh
poco f4 vs blackshark 4?
F4
Thank you for making video,
It helped me a lot.
Maybe my choice is xiaomi.
Buying poco or redmi is bit like choosing Folkswagen intead Mercedes, They are same group but diffrent in a lot.
I went to playlist and found this video.
Haha good find, hope you enjoyed the video 😁
I like Xiaomi 12 lite for the camera
Camera 12 lite for me
Poco F4 better for audio recording but why so white if Poco take picture, recording video and take selfie? Poco F4 have best n smooth gaming experience compare Xiaomi 12 lite have better camera compare Poco F4 but bad for video recording Xiaomi 12 lite sound to deep just like somebody block the mic
Hardware, SD778 better of SD870?! 🤦
6nm vs a 7nm, what do you think? Do you have both devices to use daily and test?
@@AdamLoboTV I have Mi 11 Lite 5G ( 5nm SD780G) and Poco F3 (SD870). In wild life extreme tests, Mi 11 Lite 5G best loop is 844, worst is 688, stability is 81,5%. Poco F3 best loop 1218, worst 1104, stability 90,6%. Both devices wormed up 40°.
@@IvanVuckovic1305 there you go, your answer is my point, don’t make assumptions when you don’t have these two devices to test especially in a real time test and not typical synthetic benchmarks
@@AdamLoboTV But i have in real time Mi 11 Lite 5G and Poco F3, two phones that are the same as these two.
@@AdamLoboTV yes i have and i tested 870 is just solid rocks
I have the mi 11 lite and 12 lite cameras are both almost the same, as described in the video, the 12 lite macro camera mode is very ugly much better than 11 Lite, I think the 12 lite upgrade is only on the processor, 67 fast charging, and of course the price. 108mp cameras and 32mp front camera are gimmicks, Hopefully Xiaomi provides a good software update to improve the good image processing😢
12 Lite kamera it's now almost same like Google pixel 8 Pro due the setting on camera and picture repair
I pick 12 lite too
GSM Arena list the Poco F4 and M4 Pro as using the same OmniVision main camera sensor, no OIS on the M4 Pro. If accurate, it helps explain why the F4 is inconsistent. The F4 and 12 Lite both are forgettable phones.
Hey Adam, I totally agree with the picks in your video. I’m very disappointed poco didn’t use a different chip. I think they could’ve done much better. MACRO LENSES ARE THE MOST SHAMMY THINGS PHONE COMPANIES CAN DO. Oh well, I think I would choose some poco camera shots over the 12 lite but that is minor. Have an amazing day and 100k subs coming soon!
9:43 steady mode 🤣
For me 12 Lite
1080p baby 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Haha 😂
xiaomi 11 lite ne vs xiaomi 12 lite ☝️
So and me Xiaomi 12 Lite..!!!
Xiaomi 12 Lite 🤑
Hehe
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Xiami wins!!!!
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🙂
Xiaomi CC9 can record videos with the main camera on 4k 30fps