Blake wasn’t wrong for releasing those texts. Caelynn tried to spin the story and make him look horrrrrrrrible on national television and paint him to be a womanizer. He had a right to defend himself in order to save his reputation.
Caelynn: You released things I actually said online for everyone to see! Blake: You made up lies to try to destroy my reputation! Caelynn: Well I was hurt, Blake! I apologized a million times in private! But never retracted what I lied about in public because I wanted to DESTROY YOU! 😈 Audience: *applauds* Chris Harrison: So, did you learn your lesson Blake? Blake: 👁👄👁
Ludo Bagman Yep!! Perfectly accurate description. Sometimes it doesn’t matter how sorry you are, if your actions caused someone else to potential have their entire name tarnished and their livelihood ruined, then that person is entitled to do whatever it takes to ensure their reputation doesn’t go down the toilet. Hopefully that was a big lesson for them both.
I can’t believe how hard the host (and the show by extension) were also trying to push Caelynn’s narrative. Blake is right, no one would have believed him without the texts.
I genuinely think this has a lot to do with Caelyn's history but even then its such a weird thing to do. Like she could be telling truth about her assault AND be lying about Blake. Like the two can coexist. It's weird and people are multifaceted. The cuddling the media does to its audience is wild.
She literally slxt shamed him basically on national tv. It's so bizarre, cause us women go through it every day in every aspect, so for a woman to be so petty due to rejection and in order to victimise herself, she must have some narcisssistic and manipulative tendancies and some emotional instability and immaturity issues. She doesn't seem like a bad person and she is tolerating Dean now, which speaks on its own on the emotional labor she's capable of as a person, cause he has become a very narcissistic person himself (being a product of such familial trauma ongoing till adulthood so he has become emotionally disconnected as a person, so to find a person like her tolerating him giving her emotional crumbs and basically nothing and her giving him back everything, he should feel beyond blessed), so it looks like she is a good person who did a pretty bad thing. I hope she has actually matured and apologized but it still won't make up for how much unnecessary trauma she gave Blake and how much she stigmatised him and completely assassinated his character for no actual reason. I think it all stemmed from the fact that she misjudged him and her not having a one night stand with a guy she wanted but he didn't want her back yet was respectful enough to let her know the entire time that it was just that. A one night stand. So she couldn't handle it. Her emotionally incapable brain and her own issues and ego couldn't let her process reality correctly so she did what she thought was right and the objective truth. But her feelings aren't the truth. Especially when it was all completely communicated. As I said I hope she has matured and she certainly doesn't deserve to be with an emotionally inadequate person like Dean, but damn, she destroyed Blake mentally for months and on national television. It's insane. It seems to me that her issues are deeper. Maybe he was a trigger of her past seggsual assault and she felt used again. But it still doesn't take away from the fact that this is not an excuse to completely lie about a situation and a person just to make them look bad on camera, even after you apologised. She has a lot to figure out and a lot of maturing to do.
I think it would have been different if Caelynn just said she was hurt and emotional at the time when she making the comments (which I think is true) just to take some heat off him. But, if she wasn’t willing to publicly say anything, I can understand why he released the texts
I believe two things can be true. On the show when she talked to him he was just worried about his image and even said “my family will see who I am” “ I need to make changes for better”. She didn’t lie. He made her feel that way. He told her to lie about them. She was upset of him talk to her and pretend she wsnst there and they never met! Sorry I just watched this season lol
@@Monik-y8i just like the host is spinning a narrative, so were the producers of the show. That’s not to say Caelynn was not also manipulated, but there was editing involved to make Blake look like the bad guy. So my statement stands: no one would have believed him without the texts
Caelynn is SO pretty but how anyone was on her side was beyond me. She got caught flat out lying and people still came to her defense and made Blake apologize. I would have laughed in all their faces if I was Blake lol
because she was discredited for her assault case and told that she probably made that up. she said she agreed to do a live with him saying she was wrong and do the same on the reunion. She was wrong but so was he. He should have given her a chance and it was definitely from a place of malice.
@@annieb4524 So he’s obligated to give someone who tried ruining his reputation a chance? The same woman who was still lying up to the point of him showing evidence(which clearly means that she was never going to use that “chance”). Maybe she should have giving him a chance instead of lying.
Caelynn crying as if she’s a victim after what she did to Blake. He didn’t discredit every aspect of your life. He showed what her true colors were. She went from crying to straight face. Her ego got hurt after he didn’t want her so she decided to make an attempt to ruin his reputation and it back fired in her face. Blake didn’t do anything wrong at all.
She didn’t lie! He asked her to lie. She was upset because he pretended he didn’t know her there. Two things can be true. The texts and what she went thru. She didnt lie!! I’m late here bc I just watched. He even says on the show “ my family will know who I am” “ I need to do make changes for better”. Her feelings were valid!!
Double standard with Blake. He had to defend himself - she was wild on paradise with what she said and she admired to overreacted and apologised to him but the damage was done publicly. She should have come out and said something about it and moved the heat off him.
I think Demi recently said that she was upset when Kristian proposed. Her ego hated it since she had proposed to Kristian first on the beach on the actual proposal day.
@@lovelivi1591 the thing is that, not that it's admirable, but still you have to give it her, she's self aware of her inflated ego and her narcissistic tendancies and she doesn't sell them as good things, she recognises them to be errors in her character and actual flaws and she didn't want to strung along the other person for the sake of the relationship nor has she ever blamed her. She admitted that it was her fault and that she wasn't ready for a marriage and that at the end of the day she was not her person. And that to me shows that she's not an actual narcissist, she's just not ready to be there emotionally for another person and she still has a long way to go in terms of character development. Admitting the wrong in her ways so openly is half of the job and actual progress if you ask me.
Caelynn crying about getting caught lying as if we're supposed to feel bad? "You held onto that for weeks." As opposed to what? Letting a liar get away with it? Especially on a public platform?
Robbie & Amanda were cringe. I don't follow them on social media but I sure hope they've grown through that high school behavior. As for Caelynn, it wasn't right to lie but it looks like she has grown from it. Caelynn is travelling all over the world w/ Dean which has helped her grow & mature into a lovely young lady. Being out of the lime light helps too.
I’m glad Blake stood up for himself. You can’t lie to the world and paint someone out to be a monster and expect them not to prove it otherwise if they have the proof. Edit typo.
@@samtaylordelaney7170 I agree its crap I can not stand watching it so I decided not to watch any more & I belong to multiple platforms of the bachelor or bachelorette here and abroad it's a shame
Despite his reasoning being validated, the ACT of Blake releasing the texts was wrong. It's personal, regardless of what was said. He should have given Caelynn a heads up beforehand. I mean we all know Caelynn was lying through her teeth here, but that doesn't excuse the disrespect of releasing private messages without consent. I don't think Blake's a bad guy though. He knew that he didn't do anything wrong prior to the text release and he just felt like he needed to clear his name. He just chose the wrong way to go about it.
Someone who lies and disparages your name in public should be corrected in public. She knows the texts. Why should he have to remind her of something she wrote herself?
He did give her a heads up. She literally says it right there in the video. "I told you if you released them this would happen". That is him telling her and them having a discussion about it. She's annoyed she got caught.
The fact that people here are on Blake's side, especially women, is mind-blowing. Put yourself in Caelynn's shoes. She initiated the sleeping between them, ok. Does that mean it's ok by him to ghost her and treat her like a dirty secret? A woman who suffered an SA? And then to add salt to injury he just took some messages and humiliated her? If you think that's ok, you need to check your morals. Team Caelynn all the way.
But then she also lied and was ruining Blake's reputation even though she knew (as we read in texts) that he was into someone else and that they weren't together. So Caelynn's revenge was to lie about him because she was hurt but honestly, she should have been mature and dealt with her hurt privately instead of lying about Blake on national TV. Now she is caught in a lie and is spinning the story to slit shaming but she was not innocent either. That was the problem people had with Caelynn.
if women cannot handle 1 night stands then dont do them, it was a 1 night stand, they all were. and i will not take a side just cause she is a female, women want equaity then they need to grow up and stop bawling over everything that doesnt go their way
He didn't ghost her. He didn't treat her like a dirty secret. Those are lies she told that you still believe. Even though she admitted they were lies on this program. And without releasing the texts, that would have been what everyone believes. Production also covered up the fact that Caelynn slept with two people at StageCoach.
The fact that you all is on his side is crazy. He’s a manipulative. Go back to watch the episode, de didn’t denying. She was just talking to him because they were talking before the show, they were GOOD ( she said that), and HE ASKES TO HER LIE ABOUT THEM. When she says she was Ghosted she meant he pretended he didn’t know her at the beach. They were never together. When she talked to him she overreacted ( she’s usually not like this if you follow her for long time) because she felt like NOTHINg. There were not feeling etc…whatever. He’s a manipulative human being. Or at leas was!
No they’re not lol. I 100% screenshot texts when I feel the need to. Caelynn was playing the victim and basically accusing Blake of taking advantage of her.
Bedroom activities should be private and yet Cae still told everyone, Dont play with fire when someone has the nuclear proof of what the actual relationship was
Do you think exposing texts is necessary when you’re being defamed? Or do you just think Caelynn is “super pretty” and deserves no criticism, aka what happened to Blake is a secondary thought? Grow up.
Blake wasn’t wrong for releasing those texts. Caelynn tried to spin the story and make him look horrrrrrrrible on national television and paint him to be a womanizer. He had a right to defend himself in order to save his reputation.
Say tht again and again!
Caelynn: You released things I actually said online for everyone to see!
Blake: You made up lies to try to destroy my reputation!
Caelynn: Well I was hurt, Blake! I apologized a million times in private! But never retracted what I lied about in public because I wanted to DESTROY YOU! 😈
Audience: *applauds*
Chris Harrison: So, did you learn your lesson Blake?
Blake: 👁👄👁
Ludo Bagman Yep!! Perfectly accurate description. Sometimes it doesn’t matter how sorry you are, if your actions caused someone else to potential have their entire name tarnished and their livelihood ruined, then that person is entitled to do whatever it takes to ensure their reputation doesn’t go down the toilet. Hopefully that was a big lesson for them both.
I couldn't agree more.
...and now she is a Bachelor Nation sweetheart despite the pathological lying. I tell ya...
Blake did the right thing. He NEVER should have apologize.
Why
Oh never mind
I can’t believe how hard the host (and the show by extension) were also trying to push Caelynn’s narrative. Blake is right, no one would have believed him without the texts.
I genuinely think this has a lot to do with Caelyn's history but even then its such a weird thing to do. Like she could be telling truth about her assault AND be lying about Blake. Like the two can coexist. It's weird and people are multifaceted. The cuddling the media does to its audience is wild.
She literally slxt shamed him basically on national tv. It's so bizarre, cause us women go through it every day in every aspect, so for a woman to be so petty due to rejection and in order to victimise herself, she must have some narcisssistic and manipulative tendancies and some emotional instability and immaturity issues. She doesn't seem like a bad person and she is tolerating Dean now, which speaks on its own on the emotional labor she's capable of as a person, cause he has become a very narcissistic person himself (being a product of such familial trauma ongoing till adulthood so he has become emotionally disconnected as a person, so to find a person like her tolerating him giving her emotional crumbs and basically nothing and her giving him back everything, he should feel beyond blessed), so it looks like she is a good person who did a pretty bad thing. I hope she has actually matured and apologized but it still won't make up for how much unnecessary trauma she gave Blake and how much she stigmatised him and completely assassinated his character for no actual reason. I think it all stemmed from the fact that she misjudged him and her not having a one night stand with a guy she wanted but he didn't want her back yet was respectful enough to let her know the entire time that it was just that. A one night stand. So she couldn't handle it. Her emotionally incapable brain and her own issues and ego couldn't let her process reality correctly so she did what she thought was right and the objective truth. But her feelings aren't the truth. Especially when it was all completely communicated. As I said I hope she has matured and she certainly doesn't deserve to be with an emotionally inadequate person like Dean, but damn, she destroyed Blake mentally for months and on national television. It's insane. It seems to me that her issues are deeper. Maybe he was a trigger of her past seggsual assault and she felt used again. But it still doesn't take away from the fact that this is not an excuse to completely lie about a situation and a person just to make them look bad on camera, even after you apologised. She has a lot to figure out and a lot of maturing to do.
I think it would have been different if Caelynn just said she was hurt and emotional at the time when she making the comments (which I think is true) just to take some heat off him. But, if she wasn’t willing to publicly say anything, I can understand why he released the texts
I believe two things can be true. On the show when she talked to him he was just worried about his image and even said “my family will see who I am” “ I need to make changes for better”. She didn’t lie. He made her feel that way. He told her to lie about them. She was upset of him talk to her and pretend she wsnst there and they never met! Sorry I just watched this season lol
@@Monik-y8i just like the host is spinning a narrative, so were the producers of the show. That’s not to say Caelynn was not also manipulated, but there was editing involved to make Blake look like the bad guy. So my statement stands: no one would have believed him without the texts
Caelynn is SO pretty but how anyone was on her side was beyond me. She got caught flat out lying and people still came to her defense and made Blake apologize. I would have laughed in all their faces if I was Blake lol
because she was discredited for her assault case and told that she probably made that up. she said she agreed to do a live with him saying she was wrong and do the same on the reunion. She was wrong but so was he. He should have given her a chance and it was definitely from a place of malice.
@@annieb4524 no what she did was out of malice.
@@annieb4524 So he’s obligated to give someone who tried ruining his reputation a chance? The same woman who was still lying up to the point of him showing evidence(which clearly means that she was never going to use that “chance”). Maybe she should have giving him a chance instead of lying.
Caelynn crying as if she’s a victim after what she did to Blake. He didn’t discredit every aspect of your life. He showed what her true colors were. She went from crying to straight face. Her ego got hurt after he didn’t want her so she decided to make an attempt to ruin his reputation and it back fired in her face. Blake didn’t do anything wrong at all.
Toxic femininity comes in the form of reputation destruction.
@@brookemoore8369 Yup 💯
She didn’t lie! He asked her to lie. She was upset because he pretended he didn’t know her there. Two things can be true. The texts and what she went thru. She didnt lie!! I’m late here bc I just watched. He even says on the show “ my family will know who I am” “ I need to do make changes for better”. Her feelings were valid!!
Double standard with Blake. He had to defend himself - she was wild on paradise with what she said and she admired to overreacted and apologised to him but the damage was done publicly. She should have come out and said something about it and moved the heat off him.
I was on Blake’s side when this aired - still on his side
Number 1 should be renamed to “Caelynn starts a bunch of drama and plays victim”
Literally.
No wonder Dean is with caelynn. Two gaslighting ppl gaslighting each other.
2 liars in a relationship usually ends in an explosion.
Danielle Lo dropping the tea. Whew. She's STUNNING btw. I forgot how stunning.
Annalise really annoys me tbh. But men on this franchise have really done her dirty… I hope she finds a good man that values her
Same
I think Demi recently said that she was upset when Kristian proposed. Her ego hated it since she had proposed to Kristian first on the beach on the actual proposal day.
Yeah right, she loves being the center of attention lol
@@lovelivi1591 the thing is that, not that it's admirable, but still you have to give it her, she's self aware of her inflated ego and her narcissistic tendancies and she doesn't sell them as good things, she recognises them to be errors in her character and actual flaws and she didn't want to strung along the other person for the sake of the relationship nor has she ever blamed her. She admitted that it was her fault and that she wasn't ready for a marriage and that at the end of the day she was not her person. And that to me shows that she's not an actual narcissist, she's just not ready to be there emotionally for another person and she still has a long way to go in terms of character development. Admitting the wrong in her ways so openly is half of the job and actual progress if you ask me.
Caelynn crying about getting caught lying as if we're supposed to feel bad? "You held onto that for weeks." As opposed to what? Letting a liar get away with it? Especially on a public platform?
Blake did the right thing, Caelynn is awful
I’m still on Blake’s side
Blake is awesome and he did nothing wrong
Poor Annalise! 😭😭
Rewatching this & I agree with Blake
Caelynn is a master manipulator and gas lighter.
I strongly suggest listening to part 1 and 2 of Blake’s interview on the bachelor happy hour podcast
No need for that. The majority of the viewers know he's in the right.
Used to think caelyn was nuts, now she's grown abit I think.
I feel like triangles are Kristinas favorite shape by now...
You mean Dean's. Also Kaitlyn literally has the same taste in men Kristina has. It's comical.
Robbie & Amanda were cringe. I don't follow them on social media but I sure hope they've grown through that high school behavior.
As for Caelynn, it wasn't right to lie but it looks like she has grown from it. Caelynn is travelling all over the world w/ Dean which has helped her grow & mature into a lovely young lady. Being out of the lime light helps too.
Ive never seen the bachelor so those girls getting engaged is so flippin cute im dyiiinnnggg
Annalise... didn't deserve this. She was a lot... but nobody should have this happen .
Give me more top 5s give me them all.
Where can we see the text messages???
I’m glad Blake stood up for himself. You can’t lie to the world and paint someone out to be a monster and expect them not to prove it otherwise if they have the proof.
Edit typo.
What about Jordan's moments??
Yeah no. I don't see how anyone can look at that photo and believe Robby? He must really think he is the smartest man alive and we are all idiots.
God bless you all 🥰
Are we not getting a reunion this year? :'( that's what I heard :(
Kamil and blake are so hot
Blake has so many awesome and adorable, "feminine" ways about him. And very sensitive. Even the way he crosses his legs and points his toes 8:31...
@red vegiesoup
Wth are you talking about???🤔
Caelynn has very pretty eyes
Amanda was so pretty what happened?
I miss Chris he made the show.
It’s not at all the same without him
@@samtaylordelaney7170 I agree its crap I can not stand watching it so I decided not to watch any more & I belong to multiple platforms of the bachelor or bachelorette here and abroad it's a shame
@@donna7881 I am just not about this cancel culture. The guy made a mistake and owned up to it. He didn’t deserve what happened to him
@@donna7881 ratings are significantly down since he has been gone
@@samtaylordelaney7170 have seen that, if ABC keeps on this path there may not be any bachelor or bachelorette
I MISS CHRIS
Me too, it’s just not the same
@@Mammaj1963 cry about it
Nah
No ma'am. We good thanks
I really miss him too
Despite his reasoning being validated, the ACT of Blake releasing the texts was wrong. It's personal, regardless of what was said. He should have given Caelynn a heads up beforehand. I mean we all know Caelynn was lying through her teeth here, but that doesn't excuse the disrespect of releasing private messages without consent.
I don't think Blake's a bad guy though. He knew that he didn't do anything wrong prior to the text release and he just felt like he needed to clear his name. He just chose the wrong way to go about it.
Caelynn dug her hole. When she criticized him on National television. Guy had to defend himself some way
Someone who lies and disparages your name in public should be corrected in public. She knows the texts. Why should he have to remind her of something she wrote herself?
@@jessicawilliams3849 The way some people think just blows my mind 😂🤦🏾♂️
He did the right thing at exactly the right moment
He did give her a heads up. She literally says it right there in the video. "I told you if you released them this would happen". That is him telling her and them having a discussion about it. She's annoyed she got caught.
The fact that people here are on Blake's side, especially women, is mind-blowing. Put yourself in Caelynn's shoes. She initiated the sleeping between them, ok. Does that mean it's ok by him to ghost her and treat her like a dirty secret? A woman who suffered an SA? And then to add salt to injury he just took some messages and humiliated her? If you think that's ok, you need to check your morals. Team Caelynn all the way.
But then she also lied and was ruining Blake's reputation even though she knew (as we read in texts) that he was into someone else and that they weren't together. So Caelynn's revenge was to lie about him because she was hurt but honestly, she should have been mature and dealt with her hurt privately instead of lying about Blake on national TV. Now she is caught in a lie and is spinning the story to slit shaming but she was not innocent either. That was the problem people had with Caelynn.
if women cannot handle 1 night stands then dont do them, it was a 1 night stand, they all were. and i will not take a side just cause she is a female, women want equaity then they need to grow up and stop bawling over everything that doesnt go their way
Don’t lie on people who have evidence against you. Guess she should’ve been a little smarter with her plan 🤷🏾♀️
He didn't ghost her. He didn't treat her like a dirty secret. Those are lies she told that you still believe. Even though she admitted they were lies on this program. And without releasing the texts, that would have been what everyone believes. Production also covered up the fact that Caelynn slept with two people at StageCoach.
STOP RUINING MANS LIFE WITH LIES!!!!!!
The fact that you all is on his side is crazy. He’s a manipulative. Go back to watch the episode, de didn’t denying. She was just talking to him because they were talking before the show, they were GOOD ( she said that), and HE ASKES TO HER LIE ABOUT THEM. When she says she was Ghosted she meant he pretended he didn’t know her at the beach. They were never together. When she talked to him she overreacted ( she’s usually not like this if you follow her for long time) because she felt like NOTHINg. There were not feeling etc…whatever. He’s a manipulative human being. Or at leas was!
First
I’ll never side with Blake and that’s that. Idc what happened, texts are private.
No they’re not lol. I 100% screenshot texts when I feel the need to. Caelynn was playing the victim and basically accusing Blake of taking advantage of her.
Bedroom activities should be private and yet Cae still told everyone, Dont play with fire when someone has the nuclear proof of what the actual relationship was
Do you think exposing texts is necessary when you’re being defamed? Or do you just think Caelynn is “super pretty” and deserves no criticism, aka what happened to Blake is a secondary thought? Grow up.
You know if the roles were reversed, you would be like “Well Caelynn had to expose those texts! She was being blackmailed.” Foh.
@@tonybalony1811 not cuz she’s pretty. Cuz I wouldn’t want my texts exposed