Sioux, Cheyenne & Arapahoe Warriors vs. US Army Soldiers : The Battle Of Beecher Island

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  • In 1868, on the remote plains of Eastern Colorado, a specially assembled group of US Army soldiers and civilians follow the trail of what they believe to be 25 Sioux, Cheyenne, and Arapahoe warriors. Their job is to engage these native warriors, and put an end to the months of raiding and killing that have ravaged the area. Second in command is a young First Lieutenant named Frederick Henry Beecher. Born to a prominent American family of ardent abolitionists, and a veteran of some of the Civil Wars fiercest battles while fighting for the Union Army, Beecher now finds himself here- a career Army officer- in service to his country and in pursuit an enemy that he does not know.
    But, as these men will soon learn, the force of native warriors they are pursuing is in fact part of a larger village, hundreds strong. Among them is the legendary Cheyenne warrior Roman Nose, who is well-known throughout the Northern Plains are a fierce and foreboding fighter. Roman Nose, as he is known amongst the Americans, believes he has been protected from harm because of the strong medicine possessed by his legendary warbonnet. But now, that medicine has been compromised when he unwittingly eats a meal prepared with the white man’s metal utensils. Now he must face a battle in which he believes he will surely die.
    By the end of nearly a week of brutal fighting, each of these men will meet similar ends, and have eerily similar fates. Upon hearing of the battle, General George Armstrong Custer himself would deem it "the greatest battle in the history of the plains".
    Don't miss this rare look inside the brutal story of one of the most consequential- and little-known- battles in American history, only here on History At The OK Corral : Home Of History's Greatest Shootouts & Showdowns!
    LINKS TO SOURCES
    “Cheyenne Summer : The Battle Of Beecher Island” by Terry Mort. a.co/d/2ZyU9g0
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_...
    www.findagrave.com/memorial/7...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_...
    www.ya-native.com/Culture_Gre...
    www.kshs.org/publicat/history...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hook_Nose
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 68

  • @ianfleischhacker6154
    @ianfleischhacker6154 4 місяці тому +35

    So, basically Roman Nose preferred to die in battle than listen to another second of nagging.

    • @Stoned_crow
      @Stoned_crow 4 місяці тому +10

      Nagging has forced too many good men into battle

    • @Bill_tyler
      @Bill_tyler Місяць тому

      😂😂😂

  • @je-rc2cl
    @je-rc2cl 4 місяці тому +48

    That was a very generous way to describe the Cheyenne failing to overcome what should have, on paper, been an overwhelming victory. Similarly armed, much more numerous, mobile, access to logistical support and on familiar turf. The soldiers in this instance really displayed what discipline and martial prowess can accomplish. The narrative kindof describes them as shrinking and terrified but the outcome seems to show the opposite. Kindof reminds me of the Battle of Dorylaeum.

    • @kennybachman35
      @kennybachman35 4 місяці тому +3

      They wasn’t bout that life.

    • @I-wont-read-your-replies
      @I-wont-read-your-replies 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@kennybachman35yeet

    • @nicolasthecaged4940
      @nicolasthecaged4940 3 місяці тому +6

      Native martial tactics were illogical and based on their belief in magic. It’s not remotely astonishing that they lost many battles that they should have won. Hardly more than Stone Age combatants, whether they were using contemporary weapons or not.

    • @jesterLxxix
      @jesterLxxix 3 місяці тому +10

      ​@@nicolasthecaged4940lmao pretty sure that's what custer was thinking when the Lakotas smoked him.

    • @api645
      @api645 2 місяці тому +3

      It was a defensive battle on part of the entrenched US army who were separated by a moat.
      It’s not too surpirising they lost given the circumstances, anything short of an entrenched siege and assault crossing would have failed, neither of which the sioux did or likely should have even bothered with for a force of 50men.

  • @henrylewis5566
    @henrylewis5566 2 місяці тому +3

    Thanks!

  • @dougmoore5252
    @dougmoore5252 3 місяці тому +6

    This channel is the very best on UA-cam or any media I am aware of. Thank you for this excellent video.

  • @edward1676
    @edward1676 4 місяці тому +2

    Roman Nose..Respect

  • @stevenclark8225
    @stevenclark8225 4 місяці тому +5

    Been wanting to watch videos of the battles in America, new subscriber. The binge begins. Thanks

  • @DavidAguilar-wo6ho
    @DavidAguilar-wo6ho 4 місяці тому +2

    Another great video, thanks for sharing

  • @bogota83
    @bogota83 4 місяці тому +9

    Another great video!! 🪶 ✊🏽

  • @donald4624
    @donald4624 4 місяці тому +2

    Thank you, that was interesting and fun to watch.

  • @judithcampbell1705
    @judithcampbell1705 4 місяці тому +2

    This was a fantastic history lesson, one that could only be delivered by a master, and you've done just that. Thank you 💛.

  • @BobSmith-dk8nw
    @BobSmith-dk8nw 4 місяці тому +6

    This was well done.
    But there are some errors.
    The term Sioux - was a Crow Term that meant _"Enemy"_ and was thus applied to an enemy tribe of the Crow. This tribe called themselves Lakota - and should have been referred to here - that way - not using the Crow Term for Enemy.
    Also
    As to why someone with a Rank of General was in command of a unit of 50 men - that would be because he was not actually a General any more.
    George Alexander Forsyth
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Alexander_Forsyth
    was not a Major General - at the time of Beecher's Island - he was just a Major.
    He had enlisted in the Civil War as a private and risen to the Brevet Rank of Brigadier General (not Major General) by the end of the war.
    After the Civil War he was given a Permanent Rank of Major - which is what he was at the time of Beecher's Island.
    I would assume - that the confusion resulted from a combination of his Permanent Rank of Major and his Brevet Rank of Brigadier General - into Major General - which he NEVER was.
    For those who don't know - Brevet Ranks were Temporary ranks bestowed on people because they had risen to command troops in a number appropriate to their Brevet Rank.
    Thus - you could have someone whose Permanent Rank - was that of a Captain - but who might rise to a rank of Brevet Colonel - because he came into command of a Regiment of Soldiers. Then - when that period of time when he was needed to command a larger unit was over - he would revert to his Permanent Rank. This resulted in a very large number of Officers in the Post Civil War Army - that had had Brevet Ranks much superior to their Permanent Ranks - reverting to their Permanent Ranks.
    One thing about that though - was _as a courtesy_ these Officers were often referred to by their most senior Brevet Rank. They did not have the authority of that Brevet Rank any more and wore on the uniform the insignia of their Permanent Rank - but - as a courtesy to them for what they had done while at their Brevet Rank - it was common place for them to be referred to as having that Rank.
    It was also common place for these Officers to be promoted to a higher Permanent Rank than the one they had reverted to. They would then be paid and wear the insignia of their new Permanent Rank - but might also continue to be referred to by their old Brevet Rank - if that was still higher than their new Permanent Rank - as was frequently the case.
    Another Example would be Custer.
    IIRC (which I may not), Custer had risen to command something like a Brigade of Cavalry during the Civil war and been given something like a Brevet Rank of Brigadier (one star) General. Then he reverted to his permanent rank - but may have had a promotion to a higher rank - and had a Permanent Rank of Lt. Col. when he was killed - though he would frequently be referred to as his highest Brevet Rank of something like Brigadier General.
    As above - this can lead to confusion on the part of Readers who don't understand Brevet Ranks where you have people whose actual Rank was Major being referred to as Generals. Thus - Custer is sometimes referred to as General Custer, sometimes as Col. Custer and sometimes as Lt. Col. Custer. None of which is really wrong - but it can be confusing if you don't understand why it's being done.
    One other odd thing - was that Custer was not actually the CO of the 7th Cavalry. The actual CO - was somewhere else doing something else he had been assigned to do - while is XO - Custer - was in actual command of the unit.
    Here - while a Civil War Regiment might have been a thousand men or more - the Actual size if the 7th Cavalry at Little Big Horn - was in the vicinity of 500 - 700 men - of which - several companies had been detached to perform other duties - so that they were not at Little Big Horn. Thus the 7th Cavalry was NOT wiped out there - but only those troops that were actually with Custer. The actual CO, the detached units, the supply train and the units commanded by Reno and Benteen - survived.
    Detaching and Attaching units was and is common place. Sometimes they'd need a unit to do something - so - they'd just take one from a larger unit - Detaching it from it's Parent Unit. Sometimes they determined that a unit needed some other units for a task - and they would Attach units to it - which may or may not operate with it for whatever amount of time. This happened constantly during ward or deployments - but - most units would revert to their permanent organization when the excitement was over.
    Looking at the number of men involved - the 7tyh Cavalry seems small for a Regiment - which it was. After Little Big Horn - as the Army pursued the Indians - the standard size of the Regiments was increased making them larger and more effective. Their smaller size had been the results of budgetary constraint on the part of the Army.
    .

  • @dominickchavez8224
    @dominickchavez8224 4 місяці тому +8

    More stories about the Pawnee please!

  • @jenshappel2209
    @jenshappel2209 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video

  • @HistoricallyRomantic
    @HistoricallyRomantic 4 місяці тому +8

    Fish Fry Friday and HOKC. Doesn't get much better than this folks... 😊

    • @jayokay424
      @jayokay424 4 місяці тому +1

      Hibachi Chicken & Shrimp fried rice for me.

  • @walkerroadrevivalrevelatio565
    @walkerroadrevivalrevelatio565 4 місяці тому +1

    Great job story telling 😊

  • @bobsmoot2392
    @bobsmoot2392 4 місяці тому +1

    History brought to life.

  • @philipberry6477
    @philipberry6477 4 місяці тому +5

    The “mighty warriors” here were the vastly outnumbered soldiers.

    • @edward1676
      @edward1676 4 місяці тому +1

      How many times it was the opposite 🤔

  • @danielbradmacboleniii5601
    @danielbradmacboleniii5601 4 місяці тому +4

    Greetings from Apacheria in the Arizona Territories Ahe'hye'e

  • @user-qs7gx7rp7m
    @user-qs7gx7rp7m 4 місяці тому +1

    Good Stuff !

  • @5amH45lam
    @5amH45lam 4 місяці тому +1

    Wow, your videos are so engaging, informative, beautifully written and narrated, with balance and great respect. You deserve orders of magnitude more subs. They will come, I have no doubt.

  • @allanmoore4794
    @allanmoore4794 4 місяці тому +1

    I grew up in Thomas Co and Sherman Co Kansas just north of fort Wallace. This story always fascinated me with the danger and will to live and fight.

    • @kevinneville1917
      @kevinneville1917 4 місяці тому

      I grew up in Cheyenne county our homestead was south of Beecher island about 15-20 miles.

  • @WyomingTraveler
    @WyomingTraveler 4 місяці тому +1

    I made a video about the same subject not too long ago. I enjoyed your presentation very much.

  • @ludwigderzanker9767
    @ludwigderzanker9767 4 місяці тому +4

    Thanks for that wonderful sophisticated pointed lesson of history! This warrior prefers to die than to address as a coward by an old woman. No offense but I read of a very low rate ammunition on the Tribes side, it's a way to imagine the survival of the Americans at this number of enemies. Most Cheyenne claimed that Roman Nose (it's the photograph of him in Dee Brown really him? )lay hours dying in the high grass and was pulled out by the rope of some comrades. And it's George Bird Grinnell, middle name a B . I liked it anyway and appreciate your work highly! Best wishes from Northern Germany to Texas. Ludwig

  • @larrygribaudo1092
    @larrygribaudo1092 3 місяці тому +2

    Think of it, no matter how different people are. All are accountable to God, no place to hide, no place to escape. The gospel for salvation 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

  • @drivenmad7676
    @drivenmad7676 4 місяці тому +2

    A great man among men.

  • @use5555
    @use5555 3 місяці тому +1

    great story this. Custer was not a General at this point in time tough. His rank of General was a brevet promotion. He reverted to the rank of Colonel after the war ended.

  • @user-lb3nw1pg9o
    @user-lb3nw1pg9o 4 місяці тому +1

    One suggestion though , change the background music every once in awhile

  • @abrahammorrison6374
    @abrahammorrison6374 4 місяці тому +1

    Harriet Beecher Stowe's husband knew Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain at Bodwin College. Failed to admit this connection.

  • @RealAmericanStar
    @RealAmericanStar 4 місяці тому

    ❤❤

  • @bobdollaz3391
    @bobdollaz3391 4 місяці тому +1

    I usually don't support the Feds but in this case , They're AWESOME 😎

  • @5h0rgunn45
    @5h0rgunn45 4 місяці тому +1

    What an ironic thing to be said of thr battle by Custer, of all people.

  • @thomaswilson7655
    @thomaswilson7655 3 місяці тому

    @13:07min--this was the first error I've heard made in this video yet! Major George "Sandy" Forsyth was not a general officer yet!

    • @williamwallace9564
      @williamwallace9564 Місяць тому

      I thought that was strange, sending a general out to command 50 men.

  • @RedMistSeeker
    @RedMistSeeker 4 місяці тому +3

    Pretty sure it’s Blackfeet not Blackfoot.

    • @outinthesticks1035
      @outinthesticks1035 3 місяці тому

      I think it's a matter of singular or plural . IE: " are you Blackfoot " but the singular can be used plural , " they are Blackfoot" , but usually will not object to " they are blackfeet"
      To farther confuse things , it was more than one tribe who were part of the Blackfoot Confederacy
      If you ask someone are you Blackfoot, they might answer, I am Stony , blood or sarcee . But those are often not the names people use for themselves
      There were tribes who did not belong to the Blackfoot who later joined , but retained their own identity

  • @joshjohnson2844
    @joshjohnson2844 4 місяці тому +2

    Side note. Rev. Henry Ward Beecher was not Methodist. He was a Congregationalist minister (now United Church of Christ).

    • @stephanl1983
      @stephanl1983 4 місяці тому +3

      Also Forsyrh wasn't a Major General, he was promoted to Brevet Brigadier General of the Volunteers in May 1865.
      After the war he received a comission within the Regular Army, at the time of the Battle of Beecher Island he holds the Brevet rank of Lieutenant Colonel, after the battle he was again promoted to the Brevet rank of Brigadier General, now with the Regular Army.
      He was promoted to the permanent rank of LtCol in 1881, and to Colonel at his retirement.

  • @Garbagefly
    @Garbagefly 4 місяці тому +3

    None of the aboriginals thought about siege weapons?

  • @conradnelson5283
    @conradnelson5283 4 місяці тому +1

    Oklahoma has a park named Roman nose. many native Americans are held in highest team, and they have place names in Oklahoma Washington Oklahoma is named after an Indian chief. Gotebo is named after chief Gotebo.

  • @markferguson3745
    @markferguson3745 2 місяці тому

    It's interesting to note that many of the qualities and practices of individuals like Roman Nose could be interpreted as mental illness or psychosis, which may have well made him a dangerous adversary, but also one destined for eventual catastrophic failure.

  • @HarupertBeagleton-dz5gw
    @HarupertBeagleton-dz5gw 4 місяці тому

    How’d they’d make fry bread without metal? They have stone pots or what? He should have know not to eat it.

  • @jayokay424
    @jayokay424 4 місяці тому +8

    I've always sided with the Natives, before i even knew I was a fraction of Cherokee I was fascinated by the lifestyle, bravery, and honor.

  • @krzysztofciuba271
    @krzysztofciuba271 4 місяці тому +1

    An analogy to post-WWII "Wild West" stories: col.Jozef Kuras,(a renegade of Resistance, AK/Home Army:he did not obey orders)) 1945-47 who was a Dictator-Cesaar near Nowy Targ(a mountain area) @no Communist State@Russian Armu can't do anything!: he was hoping for ...gen.Patton Army arrival); finally he was betrayed and assassinated by Security Forces/UB. Bieszczady Region, the border of Poland, Slovakia, and Ukraine: WWII finished there in...1949, 5 years after Hitler's surrender; Ukrainian Bandera criminals, anti-Comunist Resistance, criminals gangs, and finally the Communist State Army entered in and fought each other. Hollywood's Morons stories is a (historical) joke

  • @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf
    @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf 4 місяці тому +11

    Go soldiers

  • @Sgtklark
    @Sgtklark 16 днів тому

    Thanks!