I remember the good ole days when you didn't have all this nanny stuff and you took off and hit the first corner, understeer took over and you wrapped it around a tree...the end.
Yeah those good old days when a fender bender could kill you and cars lasted 100k miles if you were lucky. I think I miss the rust the most. Cars were so much better back in the good old days
poopsmcgee2k6 Big boats from the mid '70s that had 165 hp and enough plumbing to build a public housing project... Crumple zones? Not for "Real Men". Who needs stability control, I want the back end to come around...ha!
When I first started watching John Ross, I felt like he was a great value Hoovie. But now that I've followed his channel for a while, I have respect for his hustle to upload good content frequently and for being himself through the process
Awesome, so shopping list, $390 scanner, tire machine, all the sensors you can find to hopefully find one that works, oh what's that, the lights still on. Simply outstanding. I remember when people used youtube to post videos when they actually figured something out or had some tech to share.
@@chrispartridge3080 Don't need any of that stuff, get a new set of sensors and indicator on Ebay for about $25. They screw onto the valve stems in place of the caps and you are all set!
@@chrispartridge3080 @WatchJRGo I agree this is BS. I'm a big DIY guy, but I have a small house and kids with a bunch of crap and a 2-car garage that actually park 2 cars in! The last thing I have room for is a tire machine, so I'm stuck going to a tire shop no matter how "easy" it is to fix a TPMS sensor with all the right tools. (I actually prefer to just pull my wheels off and take them to the tire shop so I don't have to leave my truck there and then bum a ride home or wait like an idiot, but that's beside the point.) And what happened to the Audi BTW? You put the turbos on 3 months ago and now its not in your garage anymore? No one cares if you want to fly planes. We came here because we like to fix cars too.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009XJARD4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It aint easy, but I use this tool to replace TPMS sensors at home. Break the bead, pry the tire down and swap out the TPMS sensor. You need 3 hands.
When ever I used to work for ford, I had a customer come in one time that ask me if I can get rid of the TPMS sensor lights, well previously I had been messing with their computer on new vehicle just to kind of look at what all it can do, so I gave it a shot. I hooked up the computer to his truck and I set the minimum maximum psi for his tires to be 1PSI by doing so the light never came on.
There's one more type of TPMS and that's indirect TPMS. Indirect uses the vehicle's ABS / wheel speed sensors to monitor each wheel's rotation count/speed. When one of them has a variation in their rotation count compared to the other wheels, it will will trigger the TPMS (tire) light in the dash because a low tire pressure will cause the wheel speed to change and the TPMS indirectly detects that via the ABS / wheel speed sensors. The other type being "direct" (what you're showing in this video) where there are sensors in each wheel that report the pressure to the TPMS subsystem of the vehicle. I agree having an Autel TPMS tools is a great thing to have. I use my Autel MaxiTPMS TS601 far more than I thought I would when I purchased it. I enjoy watching your videos!
My 2019 Ford Fiesta SE has the light and says the tire is low. However, it doesn't say which tire is low. Which is not a big deal to me because i have a tire pressure gauge that I use and just air up the low tire
JR, I love you and this comes from the heart. Really enjoyed the lesson on TPMS sensors. Learned some stuff! What I missed, and what I wanted to see, was you fishing those bits of broken sensor out of that tire and working some magic to keep the tire machine from breaking the new sensor. In summary, show don't tell. Please and thank you.
Only to Autel TPMS MX sensors. Not that it's a bad thing, just know you can't buy the sensors at the dealer. Unless they sell Autel MX sensors that is.
@@Roosterfishh Hard to say. If it's a cheap direct-fit TPMS sensor, you can't rewrite them. If you're talking about something from NAPA Echlin's OE-Match, you will need at least an Ateq VT37. Like I said, it's hard to say. Especially with a variety of direct-fit aftermarket sensors available in the marketplace.
I'm going to chime in here with an updated answer. Having used Autel's TPMS tool (and their TPMS sensors for awhile), I highly recommend staying away from the Autel TPMS MX sensors! The MX sensors are flakey, and crap out on you often, leaving you to wonder if your tires are flat or if it's Autel's sensors playing tricks on you. Here's what I recommend you do instead: Get pre-programmed TPMS OEM sensors (which are sold at dealers and stores like Rock Auto). You can install those, activate them (via instructions that come with the sensors), then have the Autel tool read the sensors and program those into the onboard computer via the OBD II port. I love the tool, but those sensors are baaaaaaaaad.
For anyone saying it's laziness and to just check the tire pressure on a regular basis, that's all well and good until your tire is punctured and you don't know it. I lost a brand new tire due to not knowing it was flat (low profile tire) and I drove on it for several miles and ruined the tire. I bought a TPMS kit and never looked back. I won't run without one now, especially since it's a sports car that I regularly take fast on curvy roads, not to mention the tires are more expensive. I still manually check my tire pressures occasionally just to verify they're working properly, but these kits are great.
I had a sensor notify me that my tire was low. I knew I had a nail in it but it warned me that the pressure was dropping. I slowed down and within a few minutes later the tire was flat.
Yeah, there are several ways to meet the Federal requirements. I had a Honda Accord that used the ABS sensors to detect differences in the RPM of the tires. You get a lot more functionality out of sensors, but I'd rather it just be seamless and maintenance-free. I put snow tires on my Jeep a few years ago and had to get 4 new sensors for the winter wheels. It was an annoying hassle.
So your abs sensor outside the tyre can read pressure inside the tyre? That doesn't sound right. they might use the abs system to collect data but not detect pressure - unless it measures wheel speed rotation? Hadn't thought of that?
Great video explanation, I have an 07 Acura TL and my system went crazy one day and I recently had my tires rotated and the sensors are back on point. Don't know why but I'm glad to have that error light off my dash.
"Tool is relatively inexpensive." -> Clicks the link. ....... Eyes widen. holy shit! What is your version of relatively inexpensive? $400 is not relatively inexpensive. It's flat out expensive. $150 is "relatively inexpensive."
And that tool will probably only program one specific brand of sensor? Every thing is so proprietary regarding this stuff unless you get a $1000+ SnapOn programmer.
I've always wondered what the TPMS sensors of my 07 GMC Sierra look like. This video on a 2010 answered my question. I appreciate JR not bad mouthing TPMS for vehicles. But no doubt their a pain for a home mechanic enthusiast to work on. Especially when the fix doesn't work.
"...Not that big of a deal!" Hmm, it seems an unnecessary hassle to me, full of fails and sensors that won't talk to the car. All sensors should use a single universal protocol and all cars should autodetect with a single command.
I have a 2008 Pontiac G8, & it has a highline system. You can see the pressures for individual wheels. A PITA when the batteries go dead in the sensors. Hello from Phoenix Arizona!🔥
Personally i hate tpms and find it annoying and needlessly expensive. I check my tire pressure regularly. I wish there were a way to shut it off for people like me.
Because they sell cars like candies, not educating people the maintenance, the care needed. To make profits the wrong way, is also to make people uneducated, to make people more dependable on others like dealers,shops, and etc... At the end, most people who drives are busy, have minimal knowledge on the safety maintenance of tires and cars, causing danger to self and others on the road. Temporary solution is to create more cost for consumers like TPMS, more waste for the environements as its one time use while new laws keep on placing the burden back on individuals vs back on the system . 🎉
You can skip it from the ECU Application, but think about insurance. They'll refuse any payments in case of an accident, once proven they were not connected or red by the board computer of the car. And they know well how this could be investigated.
This was very cool to see. This has always been a tell a the shop "Yeah I want TPMS" thing, and never actually saw how it worked and was installed and configured. Great stuff!!!
Every tire machine is different, the basic ones maybe, but there are different levels of automation in the new ones. The Revolution literally does it all for you 🍻
How to fix a TPMS light on a 08 Forester...remove cluster, take out TPMS lamp bulb, reinstall cluster, check tires regularly like your suppose to, and enjoy not having the annoying light on the dash.
The tmos units have 10 year batteries. Some last longer some shorter. My 2009 Honda Crv had 1 bad battery after 9 years, I knew I needed to change tires next year. The following year I got new tires and new temps aftermarket sensors from eBay, 4 for $44(total not each) had Discount tire install and program. They had no problem with these aftermarket sensors and didn’t charge for installation or programming. Tires were ones I wanted at a good price.
There is another system that measures pressure loss with the hall sensors from the abs/esp, if it notices that one tire is slightly rotating faster due to the decreased circumference it knows that this wheel needs to be checked , it’s a simple system but I like it , it’s better than not knowing that you’ll have a big problem soon 😄👍🏻
Another great video JR, but could you go back to showing us how to do it without access to a fully equipped commercial garage? $20K tire machines make it easy, but a lot of us are still using 2x4s or ratchet bead breakers at home. Thanks
Well shucks... all you need is the $300+ programming tool (which will only program one specific brand of sensor), and a $40 harbor freight manual tire machine. Or when you buy your sensors try getting them pre-programmed from the seller for your specific vehicle.
Tpms is a no brainier these days. For $30 I can read real time tire pressure and temperature on all four wheels continuously, set audible and visual warnings for thresholds. It's a huge safety feature improvement while driving on the road. There's no second guessing or any hesitation if you spring a leak or blow a tire while driving.
Does the nut torque from a new TPMS service set depend on the sensor you are installing a new set? Or that torque is the same for any TPMS Service Kit, which fits on that sensor? For example, the original TPMS sensor require 65 in-lbs (2009 Nissan Sentra), but new service kit for the nut included in that set gives 35 in-lbs. I didn't look before on the packet of the service kit and installed w/63 in-lbs. The car was driving perfectly fine like for 2 years. Now I'm replacing the wheels and moving the TPMS sensors fm old wheels to the new ones. I'm replacing the service kit items of course (nut, washer, gasket, and Schrader Valve). Here it came to my attention the printed value of the nut torque on the small packet for the new kit (35 in-lbs). So I don't know what torque to apply 65, 35 or smth in between (especially as everything was fine and with 63). I inspected the previous old service kit nuts, which were used for 2 years, and which were under 63 in-lbs instead of 35, they were fine, no hairline cracks on them. I would appreciate any opinions on this matter.
Tpms is just another Gov mandated accessory that should be an option, they regularly fail and at 30 to 100 dollars to have fixed each it's much cheaper to buy a tire pressure gauge and check yourself 3 or 4 times a year! Especially if they dont tell you what pressure is required!
1 Phone chargers can Interfere with tpms 2 autel tool only program their sensors 3 gm, ford, audi, vw, BMW probably forgetting a few manufacturers can be put into tpms learn mode through the dash 4 some sensors lock out and can not be programmed to with vehicle info once installed and aired up I program them then test them then install
Working at a tire shop I do this every day, it's crazy how different our steps our. I can also replace all 4 tpms systems and relearn in like 5-10 minutes total
@@ineedmoreroom7495 hey buddy since you know about tpms since you work at a tire shop i have 2012 acura tl and the the tpms like blinks for a minute then stays solid i have the autel ts508 same one in this video and got a code that the sensor failed to register i took it to Pepboys they said that my left front sensor was no good so they put a universal one in and they tried programming it and the couldnt they even tried a relearn by driving it . when i tried getting the hex id from from the odb is blank said N/A so it like it need to be written . so pepboys then ordered a oem sensor from acura and same thing . tpms lite still blinks and then stays solid have a driven the car for more the 50 mile and still nothing .. then i got a new receiver antenna that sits almost above the tire and still noting . when i delete the code the light turns off and i can see the other 3 tires psi but when i drive over 15mph the like come back on blinking then staying lit .and sugestions .
@Havihav Hi. I have a 2015 Fiat Pop 500. Changed rims at Pep Boys. Now the tire light stays on says "tire pressure monitoring not available" and Pep Boys with scanner confirmed all sensors are active - just not connecting. Menu panel on the car dash doesn't have a "reset" or "relearn" button. Dealership asks $205 (one person) $290 (another person), to diagnose. Pep Boys said they have eliminated the position for the person that did resetting of TPMS connections, for these cars and said I may have to go to the Dealership. I have driven it 45 miles. Tire light stayes on.
Non car people dont fill or check the tyre pressure thats why they are important. A moron next to you on the highway having a blowout and side swiping you is not nice
I wish you could tackle my TPMS system. I have a 2008 FJ Cruiser which was the first year TPMS was included with the FJ. However, it wasn’t until 2009 that they added the TPMS Reset button under the steering wheel, so mine has been suck at the factory TPMS setting of 46 psi which is way too high for my tires! (Normal FJs had a lower psi setting, but mine is a Trail Teams Special Edition which came with differently sized wheels and tires so they decided to set the psi differently for some reason.) If I had your knowledge or tools I would at least attempt to reset the pressure down to something reasonable like 36 or 32.
They don’t ‘maintain’ their charge. They’re always slowly getting more and more discharged. They typically use button batteries. Most have a battery lifespan of 5-7 years and the entire sensor has to be replaced when the batteries go out.
Liam Hover yeah, it would be nice if they just allowed for serviceable batteries so they could just be swapped out when they die, but that would be too easy, huh? Haha
my 1994 Corvette had a basic tire monitor system. It let me know A tire was low going 75 on the interstate once. I pulled over, no tires seemed low, got back up to speed and sure enough, the drivers rear was going down. I put on the spare ( took me 15 minutes to find it ) and continued my move from SC to AL at 75 mph. Taking off was fun with a spare rear as it wanted to spin very easily and traction control was real aggressive in pulling back the throttle when it did. I have an 07 Elantra, no TPMS and got a flat pulling into a gas station on my trip from SC to AL for my HS reunion 10 years ago. Imports must have been exempt in 2006 since my 2007 doesn't have it.
I bought non-MX cheap aftermarket sensors (non clonable) for my 2013 Lexus es300h a set of 4 for $36. Using the Autel 501 to recognize the serial # and in advanced mode put the car ECU in relearn mode with the OBD 2 cable. I also noted the serial # printed on the aftermarket tpms sensor was different than what the Autel scanned it as being.
So happy that the Prius has found a convert in Josh. :) At one time, before the Gen III came out, I was responsible for the most Priusi sold in my state. I still own a 2009 Prius with only about 27K miles on it. I just earlier this year put on a fresh set of tires because the originals were starting to show fine cracks on them. Other than oil changes and fuel, I have needed to spend nothing else on it. My only complaint is with the fuel bladder in the gas tank. The bladder was meant to do away with the need for fuel pumps. However, Toyota did away with them on the 2010 Prius on. My problem with it is that I live in an area where it is normal to have sub-zero winter days and nights, and severe cold weather can cause the bladder to shrink permanently. So, although it works fine otherwise, I can now only put in about 8 gallons of fuel, instead of the 11.9 it used to take to fill it. As little as I drive it and the excellent fuel economy it has means I only fill it once every 6 weeks or so. Not that worried. :)
That bladder is a PITA even in hot climates when filling. I own 3 2Gs, all over 150K miles on them, and I HATE filling them. I've "only" managed a 11.5 gal fill as my highest, but considering the nominal volume is that 11.9, that's about the highest to go without possibly overheating the pump from lack of gas to cool it. . Someday I hope to get a 3G to end that fill up misery. . Also, stop abusing that 09 with so few miles!
Totally agree with you about tpms. My 2006 Hyundai doesn't have it. My 2016 Camry does have it and it shows the tire pressure. It definitely helps maintain proper air pressure in the tires.
The Marine Corps used a Central Tire Inflation System on 5 ton trucks in the early 90’s. The driver could drop the pressure with a switch on the dash when coming off a ship or landing craft so it can drive thru the soft sand then raise the pressure when they got on a hard road. It had three settings on it.
I had a problem with a 2019 WRX sensors......but when we programmed for a 2018 WRX everything worked. Jim PS.......seems that sometimes the programming lags?
My Fusion has like three dead sensors... which I was informed of immediately after my new tires were swapped on. I think I can manage to press the 'Reset' button on the info display for a while longer.
Why are there none designed from the outside of the valve stem? Changeable coin batteries would be a nice feature too. Is there a tire shop lobby in on this or are wheel designers just set in their ways?
I have 1 of my tires / wheels that won't beep..the right rear..I bought 1 of the EL-50448 hand held sensore to try to beep and still won't so in order to fix it I have to do like you here in this video.
I hope you take this as I intend it - one of your better and more informative videos. The "story" might not be as engaging (to some), but I really enjoyed it.
On Chevy 2007-2011, make sure all valve stems have the same frequency range as the vehicle requires, replace all 4 stems if a TMPS stem has been removed/replaced when a tire was changed out. Turn key to run position but do not try to start. Turn the headlight switch from off to parking light to back off 4 times within 3 seconds, if done correctly, the horn will honk, the TMPS is in program mode. Starting with driver side front, deflate the tire using any tool to press the valve stem for about 10-20 seconds until horn honks, repeat this next with passenger side front, passenger side rear, then driver side rear in that order, turn key off, reinflate tires back to vehicle recommended pressure. Your TMPS dash light should now be off on next vehicle start up and the system will correctly monitor tire pressure. After making sure the valve stems are all the same, total process of programming the TMPS is about 4-5 minutes plus airing the tires back up (about another 5-10 min). You should deflate the tires in correct order as quickly as possible and turn the key off as the vehicle will only be in program mode about 8 minutes total. When you go to turn the key off, check to make sure the TMPS light is still flashing, if it is steady or off when going to turn the key off, you failed the reprogramming as you exceeded the programming window time and you will have to try again.
My 2008 Ram 3500 does not have it because it is a 1 Ton truck and those weren't mandated until 2009 for some reason. My 2006 Tundra had it and it never worked properly so I ended up "fixing" it by covering the blinking light with tape
Firestone charged me $75 for a single sensor in my HHR. Much prefer an indirect TPMS system like my Taurus has. It just uses the ABS sensors to compare wheel spin to find a low tire. It's not nearly as accurate as a direct system but it's way cheaper to maintain and does the job just fine.
There's a cable that comes with the TS508 to connect it to OBDII; with any moderately recent firmware it will write the IDs directly to your ECU. I did it today in a Camry and it took less than two minutes start to finish (including identifying the sensors).
The TPMS on my Subie has worked fine since I got it (touch wood) but the one on the Jeeps my brother and his family own and have owned have never worked. Always broken.
I’ve got a TS501 in my Tool arsenal when I went through the same thing with my Chevrolet Aveo; and really if one sensor starts to fail, the rest are not far behind it (so they should be replaced as a complete set) and yes, some sensors are $35 like the ones you can get through the Walmart Auto Care Centers (they are Genuine Schrader sensors) but most of your GM sensors are $80 a piece at the dealership. And some TPMS systems are a cast iron bitch to get into relearn mode (my sister’s Suzuki SX4 comes to mind) or you HAVE to use a scan tool to initiate relearn like on my Aveo. EDIT: on Eric’s truck, you don’t even need a scan tool to enable the Relearn mode because at 8:49 I saw that he has the DIC buttons; just cycle through the information menu until you see “PRESS ✔️ TO RELEARN TIRE POSITIONS” on the odometer display.
PSA: If you’re DIY, and have an at home, manual tire machine, PLEASE for the love of god treat every tire as if it has a sensor. NEVER break the bead right at the valve stem.
Hi. So i have 4 New sensors put in my rims. Now i will use the autel ts508wf Tool same way like you but no sensor will detect...... all 4 new sensors....... what is the problem? Autel service say, only sensors from autel will be programming .... all sensors 433mhz.
I just go to my local tire store I bought my rims and tires from if I have a problem. I had one tpms wheel sensor replaced for $60 vs. over $300 for one from the car dealership. Also, the tire store has a tpms wireless tester plus they can program them. My tires are pro rated that makes it a one stop shop
I really dislike TPMS. But I am that guy that checks the tire pressure every week. I like to check and top-up the tire pressure regularly because I love to have a good dynamic on my car (pressure gives you better cornering dynamic, as the tires do not squeeze as much), because the I have a more comfortable even on speed bumps, gives me better fuel economy, and my tires last longer. Why do I dislike TPMS? Because it is either (1) a bad solution, or (2) a expensive solution. (1) There are systems which uses the wheel rotation sensor, from the ABS / TCS / ESP system (Anti-lock Braking System, Traction Control System, Electronic Stability Programme). These systems are not very reliable in terms of the pressure that it outputs, because, if you have 2 tires, or even the all 4 tires, really low, the system usually do not check it. Moreover, as said in the video, these systems check the tire pressure occasionally, thus, for those which start their car and go straight to a highway at 60 mph, the system may not check the tire pressure on time. Yes, it is good. But not enough. (2) The cars which have the TPMS sensor in each wheel rim are a pain. Not only increases the price of changing a tire, but also increase the complexity involved in this task. I see many people postponing the tire change due to this increased price - which is way worse that the risk of having a low tire. Moreover, this also increase the investment a shop has to make, thus, this cost passes on to the consumer. This is very bad! I am all for improvements, especially in security. But this system requires too much maintenance, and for very low improvement. Just like brake pad sensors... Which only increase the price of a brake change.
Dude, you just said "I am that guy that checks the tire pressure every week." . TPMS checks it every MINUTE. . It's also there for the VAST majority of owners who DON'T maintain their cars. . As for shop investment, give me a break - they've been required for nearly FIFTEEN YEARS, if a shop hasn't updated their tire equipment in that time, they probably scratch the hell out of most aluminum rims with some dinosaur machine.
@@TheTalonts I know I am not a "regular driver", and not a "typical driver". That is why I said that, because it is a disclaimer. I check the tire pressure every week, because I love to have a good dynamic car, better fuel economy, and to have long lasting tires - that is why I invest on Michelin tires. As I said, not only (1) the TPMS is not always correct in assessing the tire pressure, but also (2) the value is not correct (except on those high-end S-Class / 7-Series cars). Thus, I prefer to check the tire pressure weekly. Regarding shop investment: never forget that it is you who pays. And, more system, equals more investment; which will be reflected on your receipt. Moreover, the TPMS is not equal on all OEMs, thus, more investment for a mechanic / tire shop. Regarding your "15 years", shops had to make very other investments, that is why you pay sometimes double per hour what you paid 20 years ago. But yes, I agree with your point: this is for those driver who not take care of their cars. Just like: maintenance reminder, ABS, TCS, ESP, etc... That is why cars are a lot more expensive than before, in both purchasing and maintaining.
If the system goes it’s expensive if a sensor goes out, easy fix. Doesn’t it tell you what pressure the tires should be inside the door or driver's manual?
I worked as a tech for Toyota and it requires a computer to put it into a learn mode where you input the serial numbers on each sensor in the required time and then finish out the program when your done. I doubt Josh's prius needs sensors. Scan the car see if you can find the sensor codes in the body control module and if not then you will have to go to each tire and break the bead to read the back of the sensor and repeat the process. Toyota sensors re learn by driving not by tool so once they are synced to the car drive it at a minimum of 25mph for a mile i believe. Sometimes there is a button under the dash below the steering wheel in the glove box or to the left of the steering wheel near the vent
My 2010 Camaro SS has a bad sensor on the right front - I am still running the factory sensors, so they are all on their way out. My 09' Lancer has bad right rear sensor. Thank you all for spending the time to read my fascinating story. It took a lot to open myself up like this for all to see.
TPMS at the track is double edged sword. Can save your butt if tire is compromised but can be very unhappy as you remove air btwn sessions for max handling. I've found my best pressures when hot is 35/40 F/R. So I start 1st session 3 lbs low from factory settings (29/34) to get to those #s at end of session, then bleed to those #s after ea session. 3 low is just low enough to not get a TPMS light but get the light at the start of ea subsequent session because the tires are low but heat up faster as track temp & ambient temp inc during the day. By last session I could be 7 lbs low to start so my dash says I have a flat tire when I start. I always check before starting to be sure all are good. The things you do for a good lap time.
On some GM's you can do the relearn yourself without a fancy tool. -Make sure tires are properly inflated -Put car in ON mode (engine not running) -Hold lock and unlock on your keyfob for about 5 seconds, horn will chirp -Starting with driver front, start letting air out of tire, after ~2psi the horn should chirp -Repeat for RF/RR/LR -You have 5 minutes to do all 4 tires
I saw a post on a car forum I was on like 10+ years ago. He took his tpms sensors out. Bought a small wheel barrow pneumatic tire and tossed all 4 sensors in and filled it up to like 40psi (or whatever the vehicle required to turn the light off) and tossed it in the trunk. Never dealt with them again, was able to run several tire set ups. Also another guy built one out of pvc pipes and drilled a hole and put a valve core thru. Sensors inside, cap it off and add air.
I don’t understand why my 2006 Town Car doesn’t have this! I lost a $250 tire because I kept waiting for the display to say something like low tire pressure like my Buick had! So I can add this right? Thanks JR for the info! Love your videos even though I can’t work on cars!
If your car is a late 05 sold as an 06, it may not have it. If it doesn't have it, there are various aftermarket systems, some that use the same type of valvestem sensor inside the rim/tire, others that have a small valvestem cap that you screw on to replace the standard one. Just search Amazon for "TPMS system", there are tons of them.
As others have noted, many cars including Honda use the abs sensors. They have issues but there are no sensors in the wheel and the owner can reset the algorithm from the mfd.
I used the “link in the description “ to research the tool you used in the video. Had NO idea there were soo many different possibilities - even with the altel versions. Could you give some guidance on why there is such a massive price difference is the same tool? Minus the obvious “it comes with a case and sensors” swag. Are the functions and capabilities that different? Thanks for any guidance Love the channel!
class 8 trucks not required YET. however you can order tractors and trailers with self monitoring and self inflating systems. downside to those is they tend to leak after a few months.
I picked up a nail in the rear tire of my old Harley, while doing about 60mph, in a tunnel, during morning rush hour, in Seattle, many years ago. It's quite an adrenaline rush to cross three lanes of traffic on a squirrely bike, when you don't yet know what's going on. It would have been nice to know it was loosing pressure before things got crazy.
Ford TPMS sensors are known for throwing intermittent codes while driving even if there's nothing wrong. Just keep a valve stem pressure gauge in the car and check it routinely. I suggest every or every other fuel refill is a good time to check air pressures.
The ATEQ Quickset Light ($119) was all I needed for my Subaru Crosstrek and its stock Yokohama tires and the Bridgestone Blizzaks I purchased from TireRack (pre-mounted on black steel rims, with their own TPMS). I should mention, however, that I do need to drive around for about 20min after changing the codes, before the car's computer picks up on it and shuts off the TPMS light.
Excellent, comprehensive vid, I appreciate you sharing your knowledge. A question big you don’t mind, if you had an OBD connect cable for that Autel S508, would have you still needed that high-level Autel scan tool to put the car in learning mode to register the new TPMS sensors? The Lexus dealer will charge about $100. USD ea. retail for an OEM sensor, they can be pricey. The Autel universal sensors seem like a good solution.
Loved the TPM system on my former 2004 Toyota Sienna. It did not required any sensors on the tires (it monitored tire rotation). Never failed me in the 10 years I owned that vehicle. Never understood why the move to sensor-inside-tire/rim. I heard it was government mandated.
Tpms is thanks to ford and firestone with the Wilderness at tires that were blowing and flipping them and killing people. Firestone and ford blamed it on tire pressures and not the crap tires firestone built
I paid way less for a Autel that does a ton of stuff, except TPMS. 389 seems a but high for that thing if that's the only function it does. I think none of the family fleet support it except MAYBE for the 06 Charger RT I just got Saturday. Very quick fun car with low miles.
For the Prius, if you have the right sensors, you should get a mini-VCI cable and Techstream software to program them in using a laptop. He should probably get that anyways, it does more than most of the CAN readers/programmers you can get. . Also, if the 3G Prius is like the 2G (most likely), the Techstream software has an ID5 so he can get a sensor for the spare if he wants.
Hate TPMS - If you can't afford multi-$1000 scan tools you are stuck guessing. My granddaughter's car kept showing TPMS warning, which stressed her out terribly. She would have the tire pressure checked and all four tires were fine, but the warning would remain. I happened to mention this to the counter man at AutoZone when I was buying some oil. He suggested to check the spare, and sure enough, it was almost flat. Nowhere in the manual does it say the spare remains part of the active TPMS while you are driving. Most people give no thought to the spare tire until they have a flat.
I remember the good ole days when you didn't have all this nanny stuff and you took off and hit the first corner, understeer took over and you wrapped it around a tree...the end.
Yeah those good old days when a fender bender could kill you and cars lasted 100k miles if you were lucky. I think I miss the rust the most. Cars were so much better back in the good old days
poopsmcgee2k6 Big boats from the mid '70s that had 165 hp and enough plumbing to build a public housing project...
Crumple zones? Not for "Real Men". Who needs stability control, I want the back end to come around...ha!
if you cant tell a tire is real low you shouldnt be driving
Vive la 1990s era Ford Explorers and their shredded Firestone tires...
...that forced the TPMS sensor upon the entire country!
@Jbog07 my 98 integra 4 speed auto gets near 32mpg the new ones are close to that and few will last 22+ years with the turbo and cvt
When I first started watching John Ross, I felt like he was a great value Hoovie. But now that I've followed his channel for a while, I have respect for his hustle to upload good content frequently and for being himself through the process
JohnRoss has less schtick than Hoovie. I wish I had had half his knowledge and energy.
Awesome, so shopping list, $390 scanner, tire machine, all the sensors you can find to hopefully find one that works, oh what's that, the lights still on. Simply outstanding. I remember when people used youtube to post videos when they actually figured something out or had some tech to share.
How to fix TPMS issues yourself:
Step 1- Buy a tire machine...
Haha I think someone is becoming out of touch we don't have access to garage lifts, tools, or scanners.
@@chrispartridge3080 Don't need any of that stuff, get a new set of sensors and indicator on Ebay for about $25. They screw onto the valve stems in place of the caps and you are all set!
@@chrispartridge3080 @WatchJRGo I agree this is BS. I'm a big DIY guy, but I have a small house and kids with a bunch of crap and a 2-car garage that actually park 2 cars in! The last thing I have room for is a tire machine, so I'm stuck going to a tire shop no matter how "easy" it is to fix a TPMS sensor with all the right tools. (I actually prefer to just pull my wheels off and take them to the tire shop so I don't have to leave my truck there and then bum a ride home or wait like an idiot, but that's beside the point.) And what happened to the Audi BTW? You put the turbos on 3 months ago and now its not in your garage anymore? No one cares if you want to fly planes. We came here because we like to fix cars too.
HaHa
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It aint easy, but I use this tool to replace TPMS sensors at home. Break the bead, pry the tire down and swap out the TPMS sensor. You need 3 hands.
When ever I used to work for ford, I had a customer come in one time that ask me if I can get rid of the TPMS sensor lights, well previously I had been messing with their computer on new vehicle just to kind of look at what all it can do, so I gave it a shot. I hooked up the computer to his truck and I set the minimum maximum psi for his tires to be 1PSI by doing so the light never came on.
There's one more type of TPMS and that's indirect TPMS. Indirect uses the vehicle's ABS / wheel speed sensors to monitor each wheel's rotation count/speed. When one of them has a variation in their rotation count compared to the other wheels, it will will trigger the TPMS (tire) light in the dash because a low tire pressure will cause the wheel speed to change and the TPMS indirectly detects that via the ABS / wheel speed sensors. The other type being "direct" (what you're showing in this video) where there are sensors in each wheel that report the pressure to the TPMS subsystem of the vehicle. I agree having an Autel TPMS tools is a great thing to have. I use my Autel MaxiTPMS TS601 far more than I thought I would when I purchased it. I enjoy watching your videos!
My 2019 Ford Fiesta SE has the light and says the tire is low. However, it doesn't say which tire is low. Which is not a big deal to me because i have a tire pressure gauge that I use and just air up the low tire
JR, I love you and this comes from the heart. Really enjoyed the lesson on TPMS sensors. Learned some stuff! What I missed, and what I wanted to see, was you fishing those bits of broken sensor out of that tire and working some magic to keep the tire machine from breaking the new sensor. In summary, show don't tell. Please and thank you.
For the record, you can also use the TS508 to write TPMS sensor IDs straight from the tool via the OBD II cable and Advanced mode.
Only to Autel TPMS MX sensors. Not that it's a bad thing, just know you can't buy the sensors at the dealer. Unless they sell Autel MX sensors that is.
Which tool can one use to rewrite tpms hex id's on cheap tpms sensors?
@@Roosterfishh Hard to say. If it's a cheap direct-fit TPMS sensor, you can't rewrite them. If you're talking about something from NAPA Echlin's OE-Match, you will need at least an Ateq VT37.
Like I said, it's hard to say. Especially with a variety of direct-fit aftermarket sensors available in the marketplace.
I'm going to chime in here with an updated answer.
Having used Autel's TPMS tool (and their TPMS sensors for awhile), I highly recommend staying away from the Autel TPMS MX sensors!
The MX sensors are flakey, and crap out on you often, leaving you to wonder if your tires are flat or if it's Autel's sensors playing tricks on you.
Here's what I recommend you do instead: Get pre-programmed TPMS OEM sensors (which are sold at dealers and stores like Rock Auto). You can install those, activate them (via instructions that come with the sensors), then have the Autel tool read the sensors and program those into the onboard computer via the OBD II port.
I love the tool, but those sensors are baaaaaaaaad.
For anyone saying it's laziness and to just check the tire pressure on a regular basis, that's all well and good until your tire is punctured and you don't know it. I lost a brand new tire due to not knowing it was flat (low profile tire) and I drove on it for several miles and ruined the tire. I bought a TPMS kit and never looked back. I won't run without one now, especially since it's a sports car that I regularly take fast on curvy roads, not to mention the tires are more expensive.
I still manually check my tire pressures occasionally just to verify they're working properly, but these kits are great.
I had a sensor notify me that my tire was low. I knew I had a nail in it but it warned me that the pressure was dropping. I slowed down and within a few minutes later the tire was flat.
I like how VW does TPMS with the ABS sensors instead of the sensors inside the tires.
That's what my Taurus has too and I much prefer it.
Yeah, there are several ways to meet the Federal requirements. I had a Honda Accord that used the ABS sensors to detect differences in the RPM of the tires. You get a lot more functionality out of sensors, but I'd rather it just be seamless and maintenance-free. I put snow tires on my Jeep a few years ago and had to get 4 new sensors for the winter wheels. It was an annoying hassle.
So your abs sensor outside the tyre can read pressure inside the tyre? That doesn't sound right. they might use the abs system to collect data but not detect pressure - unless it measures wheel speed rotation? Hadn't thought of that?
Andrew Crome it doesn’t read the pressure, just compares the differences in rotation between the four wheels.
My Alfa Romeo does that too. You need to recalibrate if you alter the tyre pressure.
Great video explanation, I have an 07 Acura TL and my system went crazy one day and I recently had my tires rotated and the sensors are back on point. Don't know why but I'm glad to have that error light off my dash.
"Tool is relatively inexpensive." -> Clicks the link. ....... Eyes widen. holy shit! What is your version of relatively inexpensive? $400 is not relatively inexpensive. It's flat out expensive. $150 is "relatively inexpensive."
And that tool will probably only program one specific brand of sensor? Every thing is so proprietary regarding this stuff unless you get a $1000+ SnapOn programmer.
Very informative. You'd be surprised how often the sensors are the source of a leak.
The TPMS on our dodge has an aluminum valve stem - it snaps right off at the hole in the rim. A real pain..
I've always wondered what the TPMS sensors of my 07 GMC Sierra look like. This video on a 2010 answered my question. I appreciate JR not bad mouthing TPMS for vehicles. But no doubt their a pain for a home mechanic enthusiast to work on. Especially when the fix doesn't work.
"...Not that big of a deal!" Hmm, it seems an unnecessary hassle to me, full of fails and sensors that won't talk to the car. All sensors should use a single universal protocol and all cars should autodetect with a single command.
I imagine they dont because the computers would mess up anytime u got close to another car and the signals interfere
I have a 2008 Pontiac G8, & it has a highline system. You can see the pressures for individual wheels. A PITA when the batteries go dead in the sensors.
Hello from Phoenix Arizona!🔥
Had a G6 2008 with high line sensors as well! When one failed and I found out a new one was $70+ I decided to just deal with the yellow light 🙃
@@Ammut6 Somebody found a way to make a $1.00 tire pressure valve cost $70.00. Somebody made a lot of money on that system.
@@mexicanspec they sure did! Which is why I turned it down and saved myself $70
Personally i hate tpms and find it annoying and needlessly expensive. I check my tire pressure regularly. I wish there were a way to shut it off for people like me.
I work in a tire shop. I couldn't agree more.
Because they sell cars like candies, not educating people the maintenance, the care needed. To make profits the wrong way, is also to make people uneducated, to make people more dependable on others like dealers,shops, and etc... At the end, most people who drives are busy, have minimal knowledge on the safety maintenance of tires and cars, causing danger to self and others on the road. Temporary solution is to create more cost for consumers like TPMS, more waste for the environements as its one time use while new laws keep on placing the burden back on individuals vs back on the system . 🎉
You can skip it from the ECU Application, but think about insurance. They'll refuse any payments in case of an accident, once proven they were not connected or red by the board computer of the car. And they know well how this could be investigated.
I hate it.
Black electrical tape over the light works perfectly
This was very cool to see. This has always been a tell a the shop "Yeah I want TPMS" thing, and never actually saw how it worked and was installed and configured. Great stuff!!!
Could you do instructional videos for how to use the tire machines?
Every tire machine is different, the basic ones maybe, but there are different levels of automation in the new ones. The Revolution literally does it all for you 🍻
A tire machine is something you need to be trained for. It won't be enough just watching a You Tube video. Changing a tire can be really dangerous.
Some cars also use the abs wheel speed sensor to see what's going flat
ive seen that on many VW and BMW cars
How to fix a TPMS light on a 08 Forester...remove cluster, take out TPMS lamp bulb, reinstall cluster, check tires regularly like your suppose to, and enjoy not having the annoying light on the dash.
The tmos units have 10 year batteries. Some last longer some shorter. My 2009 Honda Crv had 1 bad battery after 9 years, I knew I needed to change tires next year. The following year I got new tires and new temps aftermarket sensors from eBay, 4 for $44(total not each) had Discount tire install and program. They had no problem with these aftermarket sensors and didn’t charge for installation or programming. Tires were ones I wanted at a good price.
The most logical comment I ever read on UA-cam .
Learned a lot. Thanks! Old 2010 Mustang had one broken off due to faulty installation. Took a while but working right!
my TPMS in my 2017 KIA does not show the pressure but tells one is low but not which one.
Hey JR,,,,The TPMS sensors for my 2008 silverado are $50 at O'Rielly's here in the U.P.
There is another system that measures pressure loss with the hall sensors from the abs/esp, if it notices that one tire is slightly rotating faster due to the decreased circumference it knows that this wheel needs to be checked , it’s a simple system but I like it , it’s better than not knowing that you’ll have a big problem soon 😄👍🏻
Another great video JR, but could you go back to showing us how to do it without access to a fully equipped commercial garage? $20K tire machines make it easy, but a lot of us are still using 2x4s or ratchet bead breakers at home. Thanks
Well shucks... all you need is the $300+ programming tool (which will only program one specific brand of sensor), and a $40 harbor freight manual tire machine.
Or when you buy your sensors try getting them pre-programmed from the seller for your specific vehicle.
Thanks, John. i didn't know anything about those gadgets, and now I feel that I am pretty much up to date on them.
Pro tip; a tire pressure gauge can also be used to check tire pressures.
Tpms is a no brainier these days. For $30 I can read real time tire pressure and temperature on all four wheels continuously, set audible and visual warnings for thresholds. It's a huge safety feature improvement while driving on the road. There's no second guessing or any hesitation if you spring a leak or blow a tire while driving.
@@anonypersona3189 Where can you buy a TPMS diagnostic/programming tool for $30?
Yeah, a good universal programmer like a SnapOn is over $1000 + $300ish for 12 month software license.
Thank you !!!!!!
Agreed😂
Does the nut torque from a new TPMS service set depend on the sensor you are installing a new set? Or that torque is the same for any TPMS Service Kit, which fits on that sensor?
For example, the original TPMS sensor require 65 in-lbs (2009 Nissan Sentra), but new service kit for the nut
included in that set gives 35 in-lbs. I didn't look before on the packet of the service kit and installed w/63 in-lbs. The car
was driving perfectly fine like for 2 years. Now I'm replacing the wheels and moving the TPMS sensors fm old wheels to
the new ones. I'm replacing the service kit items of course (nut, washer, gasket, and Schrader Valve). Here it came to
my attention the printed value of the nut torque on the small packet for the new kit (35 in-lbs). So I don't know what
torque to apply 65, 35 or smth in between (especially as everything was fine and with 63). I inspected the previous old
service kit nuts, which were used for 2 years, and which were under 63 in-lbs instead of 35, they were fine, no hairline
cracks on them. I would appreciate any opinions on this matter.
Tpms is just another Gov mandated accessory that should be an option, they regularly fail and at 30 to 100 dollars to have fixed each it's much cheaper to buy a tire pressure gauge and check yourself 3 or 4 times a year! Especially if they dont tell you what pressure is required!
1 Phone chargers can Interfere with tpms
2 autel tool only program their sensors
3 gm, ford, audi, vw, BMW probably forgetting a few manufacturers can be put into tpms learn mode through the dash
4 some sensors lock out and can not be programmed to with vehicle info once installed and aired up I program them then test them then install
12:45 can agree. still was fun to chuck around the mountains, but always felt I would tip over in a stiff wind
Working at a tire shop I do this every day, it's crazy how different our steps our. I can also replace all 4 tpms systems and relearn in like 5-10 minutes total
Also btw most cars auto relearn, Chev, GMC, Cadillac and Mercedes you have to manually relearn them.
@@ineedmoreroom7495 hey buddy since you know about tpms since you work at a tire shop i have 2012 acura tl and the the tpms like blinks for a minute then stays solid i have the autel ts508 same one in this video and got a code that the sensor failed to register i took it to Pepboys they said that my left front sensor was no good so they put a universal one in and they tried programming it and the couldnt they even tried a relearn by driving it . when i tried getting the hex id from from the odb is blank said N/A so it like it need to be written . so pepboys then ordered a oem sensor from acura and same thing . tpms lite still blinks and then stays solid have a driven the car for more the 50 mile and still nothing .. then i got a new receiver antenna that sits almost above the tire and still noting . when i delete the code the light turns off and i can see the other 3 tires psi but when i drive over 15mph the like come back on blinking then staying lit .and sugestions .
@Havihav Hi. I have a 2015 Fiat Pop 500. Changed rims at Pep Boys. Now the tire light stays on says "tire pressure monitoring not available" and Pep Boys with scanner confirmed all sensors are active - just not connecting. Menu panel on the car dash doesn't have a "reset" or "relearn" button. Dealership asks $205 (one person) $290 (another person), to diagnose. Pep Boys said they have eliminated the position for the person that did resetting of TPMS connections, for these cars and said I may have to go to the Dealership. I have driven it 45 miles. Tire light stayes on.
12:08 what if I live on the east coast?
For motorcycles I can see it being a help but otherwise they're a nuisance at best, I've never had one car where they could all agree or work right
Non car people dont fill or check the tyre pressure thats why they are important. A moron next to you on the highway having a blowout and side swiping you is not nice
@@sys-administrator my Lexus GS has no issues with TPMS lol
I wish you could tackle my TPMS system. I have a 2008 FJ Cruiser which was the first year TPMS was included with the FJ. However, it wasn’t until 2009 that they added the TPMS Reset button under the steering wheel, so mine has been suck at the factory TPMS setting of 46 psi which is way too high for my tires! (Normal FJs had a lower psi setting, but mine is a Trail Teams Special Edition which came with differently sized wheels and tires so they decided to set the psi differently for some reason.) If I had your knowledge or tools I would at least attempt to reset the pressure down to something reasonable like 36 or 32.
What mechanism do these sensers use to maintain charge? Is it a motion type deal you find in automatic watches?
They don’t ‘maintain’ their charge. They’re always slowly getting more and more discharged. They typically use button batteries. Most have a battery lifespan of 5-7 years and the entire sensor has to be replaced when the batteries go out.
Exactly what Zach said, they just die and you have to change them 😢
Zach Miller thanks. That’s cool to know! It seems like a simple design would achieve a neigh unlimited life for these parts!
WatchJRGo I wonder how long they last then...
Liam Hover yeah, it would be nice if they just allowed for serviceable batteries so they could just be swapped out when they die, but that would be too easy, huh? Haha
TPMs in my 09 grand Cherokee hasn’t worked properly since 2011. The sensors just never sync up. It’s a shame.
Susan curran Very true
what is the difference with the older tacomas if they only have a single warning lamp? are they all programmed the same?
my 1994 Corvette had a basic tire monitor system. It let me know A tire was low going 75 on the interstate once. I pulled over, no tires seemed low, got back up to speed and sure enough, the drivers rear was going down. I put on the spare ( took me 15 minutes to find it ) and continued my move from SC to AL at 75 mph. Taking off was fun with a spare rear as it wanted to spin very easily and traction control was real aggressive in pulling back the throttle when it did. I have an 07 Elantra, no TPMS and got a flat pulling into a gas station on my trip from SC to AL for my HS reunion 10 years ago. Imports must have been exempt in 2006 since my 2007 doesn't have it.
I bought non-MX cheap aftermarket sensors (non clonable) for my 2013 Lexus es300h a set of 4 for $36. Using the Autel 501 to recognize the serial # and in advanced mode put the car ECU in relearn mode with the OBD 2 cable. I also noted the serial # printed on the aftermarket tpms sensor was different than what the Autel scanned it as being.
So happy that the Prius has found a convert in Josh. :)
At one time, before the Gen III came out, I was responsible for the most Priusi sold in my state. I still own a 2009 Prius with only about 27K miles on it. I just earlier this year put on a fresh set of tires because the originals were starting to show fine cracks on them. Other than oil changes and fuel, I have needed to spend nothing else on it.
My only complaint is with the fuel bladder in the gas tank. The bladder was meant to do away with the need for fuel pumps. However, Toyota did away with them on the 2010 Prius on. My problem with it is that I live in an area where it is normal to have sub-zero winter days and nights, and severe cold weather can cause the bladder to shrink permanently. So, although it works fine otherwise, I can now only put in about 8 gallons of fuel, instead of the 11.9 it used to take to fill it. As little as I drive it and the excellent fuel economy it has means I only fill it once every 6 weeks or so. Not that worried. :)
That bladder is a PITA even in hot climates when filling. I own 3 2Gs, all over 150K miles on them, and I HATE filling them. I've "only" managed a 11.5 gal fill as my highest, but considering the nominal volume is that 11.9, that's about the highest to go without possibly overheating the pump from lack of gas to cool it.
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Someday I hope to get a 3G to end that fill up misery.
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Also, stop abusing that 09 with so few miles!
Totally agree with you about tpms. My 2006 Hyundai doesn't have it. My 2016 Camry does have it and it shows the tire pressure. It definitely helps maintain proper air pressure in the tires.
The Marine Corps used a Central Tire Inflation System on 5 ton trucks in the early 90’s. The driver could drop the pressure with a switch on the dash when coming off a ship or landing craft so it can drive thru the soft sand then raise the pressure when they got on a hard road. It had three settings on it.
I had a problem with a 2019 WRX sensors......but when we programmed for a 2018 WRX everything worked. Jim
PS.......seems that sometimes the programming lags?
My Fusion has like three dead sensors... which I was informed of immediately after my new tires were swapped on. I think I can manage to press the 'Reset' button on the info display for a while longer.
Thank you! That was the most informative video I have watched in quite a while. Nice work.
Why are there none designed from the outside of the valve stem? Changeable coin batteries would be a nice feature too. Is there a tire shop lobby in on this or are wheel designers just set in their ways?
It's called Right To Repair... and consumers don't have it, farmers don't have it. Even the military has to hire contractors to fix their equipment.
I have 1 of my tires / wheels that won't beep..the right rear..I bought 1 of the EL-50448 hand held sensore to try to beep and still won't so in order to fix it I have to do like you here in this video.
I hope you take this as I intend it - one of your better and more informative videos. The "story" might not be as engaging (to some), but I really enjoyed it.
On Chevy 2007-2011, make sure all valve stems have the same frequency range as the vehicle requires, replace all 4 stems if a TMPS stem has been removed/replaced when a tire was changed out.
Turn key to run position but do not try to start. Turn the headlight switch from off to parking light to back off 4 times within 3 seconds, if done correctly, the horn will honk, the TMPS is in program mode. Starting with driver side front, deflate the tire using any tool to press the valve stem for about 10-20 seconds until horn honks, repeat this next with passenger side front, passenger side rear, then driver side rear in that order, turn key off, reinflate tires back to vehicle recommended pressure. Your TMPS dash light should now be off on next vehicle start up and the system will correctly monitor tire pressure.
After making sure the valve stems are all the same, total process of programming the TMPS is about 4-5 minutes plus airing the tires back up (about another 5-10 min).
You should deflate the tires in correct order as quickly as possible and turn the key off as the vehicle will only be in program mode about 8 minutes total. When you go to turn the key off, check to make sure the TMPS light is still flashing, if it is steady or off when going to turn the key off, you failed the reprogramming as you exceeded the programming window time and you will have to try again.
My 2008 Ram 3500 does not have it because it is a 1 Ton truck and those weren't mandated until 2009 for some reason. My 2006 Tundra had it and it never worked properly so I ended up "fixing" it by covering the blinking light with tape
Firestone charged me $75 for a single sensor in my HHR. Much prefer an indirect TPMS system like my Taurus has. It just uses the ABS sensors to compare wheel spin to find a low tire. It's not nearly as accurate as a direct system but it's way cheaper to maintain and does the job just fine.
There's a cable that comes with the TS508 to connect it to OBDII; with any moderately recent firmware it will write the IDs directly to your ECU. I did it today in a Camry and it took less than two minutes start to finish (including identifying the sensors).
JR I'm always amazed at how much technical stuff you know!
The TPMS on my Subie has worked fine since I got it (touch wood) but the one on the Jeeps my brother and his family own and have owned have never worked. Always broken.
Thought JR had a trick to fix TPMS. Watched video and now hate TPMS more than ever.
I’ve got a TS501 in my Tool arsenal when I went through the same thing with my Chevrolet Aveo; and really if one sensor starts to fail, the rest are not far behind it (so they should be replaced as a complete set) and yes, some sensors are $35 like the ones you can get through the Walmart Auto Care Centers (they are Genuine Schrader sensors) but most of your GM sensors are $80 a piece at the dealership. And some TPMS systems are a cast iron bitch to get into relearn mode (my sister’s Suzuki SX4 comes to mind) or you HAVE to use a scan tool to initiate relearn like on my Aveo. EDIT: on Eric’s truck, you don’t even need a scan tool to enable the Relearn mode because at 8:49 I saw that he has the DIC buttons; just cycle through the information menu until you see “PRESS ✔️ TO RELEARN TIRE POSITIONS” on the odometer display.
$80 at the stealership, and probably half that online...
Talonts to recount my TPMS saga, I got an entire set of 4 from Amazon (and were Genuine GM sensors) for the same price as ONE at the dealership.
If you have a TPMS in your car but it only has a warning light. Is there a kit where you can see the pressure data on a separate screen?
PSA: If you’re DIY, and have an at home, manual tire machine, PLEASE for the love of god treat every tire as if it has a sensor. NEVER break the bead right at the valve stem.
Hi. So i have 4 New sensors put in my rims. Now i will use the autel ts508wf Tool same way like you but no sensor will detect...... all 4 new sensors....... what is the problem? Autel service say, only sensors from autel will be programming .... all sensors 433mhz.
I just go to my local tire store I bought my rims and tires from if I have a problem. I had one tpms wheel sensor replaced for $60 vs. over $300 for one from the car dealership. Also, the tire store has a tpms wireless tester plus they can program them. My tires are pro rated that makes it a one stop shop
Do you still have that Jaguar transmission really need a transmission and can’t find one anywhere
I really dislike TPMS.
But I am that guy that checks the tire pressure every week.
I like to check and top-up the tire pressure regularly because I love to have a good dynamic on my car (pressure gives you better cornering dynamic, as the tires do not squeeze as much), because the I have a more comfortable even on speed bumps, gives me better fuel economy, and my tires last longer.
Why do I dislike TPMS?
Because it is either (1) a bad solution, or (2) a expensive solution.
(1) There are systems which uses the wheel rotation sensor, from the ABS / TCS / ESP system (Anti-lock Braking System, Traction Control System, Electronic Stability Programme).
These systems are not very reliable in terms of the pressure that it outputs, because, if you have 2 tires, or even the all 4 tires, really low, the system usually do not check it.
Moreover, as said in the video, these systems check the tire pressure occasionally, thus, for those which start their car and go straight to a highway at 60 mph, the system may not check the tire pressure on time.
Yes, it is good. But not enough.
(2) The cars which have the TPMS sensor in each wheel rim are a pain.
Not only increases the price of changing a tire, but also increase the complexity involved in this task.
I see many people postponing the tire change due to this increased price - which is way worse that the risk of having a low tire.
Moreover, this also increase the investment a shop has to make, thus, this cost passes on to the consumer.
This is very bad!
I am all for improvements, especially in security.
But this system requires too much maintenance, and for very low improvement.
Just like brake pad sensors... Which only increase the price of a brake change.
Dude, you just said "I am that guy that checks the tire pressure every week."
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TPMS checks it every MINUTE.
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It's also there for the VAST majority of owners who DON'T maintain their cars.
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As for shop investment, give me a break - they've been required for nearly FIFTEEN YEARS, if a shop hasn't updated their tire equipment in that time, they probably scratch the hell out of most aluminum rims with some dinosaur machine.
@@TheTalonts I know I am not a "regular driver", and not a "typical driver".
That is why I said that, because it is a disclaimer.
I check the tire pressure every week, because I love to have a good dynamic car, better fuel economy, and to have long lasting tires - that is why I invest on Michelin tires.
As I said, not only (1) the TPMS is not always correct in assessing the tire pressure, but also (2) the value is not correct (except on those high-end S-Class / 7-Series cars).
Thus, I prefer to check the tire pressure weekly.
Regarding shop investment: never forget that it is you who pays.
And, more system, equals more investment; which will be reflected on your receipt.
Moreover, the TPMS is not equal on all OEMs, thus, more investment for a mechanic / tire shop.
Regarding your "15 years", shops had to make very other investments, that is why you pay sometimes double per hour what you paid 20 years ago.
But yes, I agree with your point: this is for those driver who not take care of their cars.
Just like: maintenance reminder, ABS, TCS, ESP, etc...
That is why cars are a lot more expensive than before, in both purchasing and maintaining.
Always good to see Josh in the video :)
If the system goes it’s expensive if a sensor goes out, easy fix. Doesn’t it tell you what pressure the tires should be inside the door or driver's manual?
He means it tells you what the tire pressure is at the moment in your tires.
I worked as a tech for Toyota and it requires a computer to put it into a learn mode where you input the serial numbers on each sensor in the required time and then finish out the program when your done. I doubt Josh's prius needs sensors. Scan the car see if you can find the sensor codes in the body control module and if not then you will have to go to each tire and break the bead to read the back of the sensor and repeat the process. Toyota sensors re learn by driving not by tool so once they are synced to the car drive it at a minimum of 25mph for a mile i believe. Sometimes there is a button under the dash below the steering wheel in the glove box or to the left of the steering wheel near the vent
I thought it was the acronym for "Temporary" PMS....which doesn't exist to my knowledge.
My 2010 Camaro SS has a bad sensor on the right front - I am still running the factory sensors, so they are all on their way out. My 09' Lancer has bad right rear sensor. Thank you all for spending the time to read my fascinating story. It took a lot to open myself up like this for all to see.
TPMS at the track is double edged sword. Can save your butt if tire is compromised but can be very unhappy as you remove air btwn sessions for max handling. I've found my best pressures when hot is 35/40 F/R. So I start 1st session 3 lbs low from factory settings (29/34) to get to those #s at end of session, then bleed to those #s after ea session. 3 low is just low enough to not get a TPMS light but get the light at the start of ea subsequent session because the tires are low but heat up faster as track temp & ambient temp inc during the day. By last session I could be 7 lbs low to start so my dash says I have a flat tire when I start. I always check before starting to be sure all are good. The things you do for a good lap time.
On some GM's you can do the relearn yourself without a fancy tool.
-Make sure tires are properly inflated
-Put car in ON mode (engine not running)
-Hold lock and unlock on your keyfob for about 5 seconds, horn will chirp
-Starting with driver front, start letting air out of tire, after ~2psi the horn should chirp
-Repeat for RF/RR/LR
-You have 5 minutes to do all 4 tires
I saw a post on a car forum I was on like 10+ years ago. He took his tpms sensors out. Bought a small wheel barrow pneumatic tire and tossed all 4 sensors in and filled it up to like 40psi (or whatever the vehicle required to turn the light off) and tossed it in the trunk. Never dealt with them again, was able to run several tire set ups. Also another guy built one out of pvc pipes and drilled a hole and put a valve core thru. Sensors inside, cap it off and add air.
freakin genius!
I don’t understand why my 2006 Town Car doesn’t have this! I lost a $250 tire because I kept waiting for the display to say something like low tire pressure like my Buick had! So I can add this right? Thanks JR for the info! Love your videos even though I can’t work on cars!
If your car is a late 05 sold as an 06, it may not have it. If it doesn't have it, there are various aftermarket systems, some that use the same type of valvestem sensor inside the rim/tire, others that have a small valvestem cap that you screw on to replace the standard one. Just search Amazon for "TPMS system", there are tons of them.
Would you know why a 5.7 hemi would blue smoke sometimes but not all the engine has over 200,000 miles please help me out
As others have noted, many cars including Honda use the abs sensors. They have issues but there are no sensors in the wheel and the owner can reset the algorithm from the mfd.
I used the “link in the description “ to research the tool you used in the video. Had NO idea there were soo many different possibilities - even with the altel versions. Could you give some guidance on why there is such a massive price difference is the same tool? Minus the obvious “it comes with a case and sensors” swag. Are the functions and capabilities that different?
Thanks for any guidance
Love the channel!
class 8 trucks not required YET. however you can order tractors and trailers with self monitoring and self inflating systems. downside to those is they tend to leak after a few months.
mine has the band kind and my lights on saying error. not sure what one went bad. or maybe it needs a new battery.
Second extremely helpful video of yours that I learned from and did/will implement on my own car! Thanks! (First one was the GDI cleaner video)
Very informative...thank you. Awesome !!! The canbus info was awesome.
I picked up a nail in the rear tire of my old Harley, while doing about 60mph, in a tunnel, during morning rush hour, in Seattle, many years ago. It's quite an adrenaline rush to cross three lanes of traffic on a squirrely bike, when you don't yet know what's going on. It would have been nice to know it was loosing pressure before things got crazy.
Ford TPMS sensors are known for throwing intermittent codes while driving even if there's nothing wrong. Just keep a valve stem pressure gauge in the car and check it routinely. I suggest every or every other fuel refill is a good time to check air pressures.
Great job as usual, congarduction on the Saddlesore is the Bun Burner next?
But what happens when you replace the TPMS already but it still says service TPMS after you drove it for couple of days?
The ATEQ Quickset Light ($119) was all I needed for my Subaru Crosstrek and its stock Yokohama tires and the Bridgestone Blizzaks I purchased from TireRack (pre-mounted on black steel rims, with their own TPMS).
I should mention, however, that I do need to drive around for about 20min after changing the codes, before the car's computer picks up on it and shuts off the TPMS light.
Excellent, comprehensive vid, I appreciate you sharing your knowledge. A question big you don’t mind, if you had an OBD connect cable for that Autel S508, would have you still needed that high-level Autel scan tool to put the car in learning mode to register the new TPMS sensors?
The Lexus dealer will charge about $100. USD ea. retail for an OEM sensor, they can be pricey. The Autel universal sensors seem like a good solution.
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Gen III Prius can't read the Subaru BRZ/86 wheel sensors. You need some Prius compatible sensors.
Loved the TPM system on my former 2004 Toyota Sienna. It did not required any sensors on the tires (it monitored tire rotation). Never failed me in the 10 years I owned that vehicle. Never understood why the move to sensor-inside-tire/rim. I heard it was government mandated.
Tpms is thanks to ford and firestone with the Wilderness at tires that were blowing and flipping them and killing people. Firestone and ford blamed it on tire pressures and not the crap tires firestone built
I paid way less for a Autel that does a ton of stuff, except TPMS. 389 seems a but high for that thing if that's the only function it does. I think none of the family fleet support it except MAYBE for the 06 Charger RT I just got Saturday. Very quick fun car with low miles.
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Bonjour, l'outil fonctionne avec les SENSORS OEM d'origine de la marque du véhicule ? Je voudrais installer des Sensors OEM neufs.Merci.
Informative...@12:10 the correct word is "specific", vice pacific.
For the Prius, if you have the right sensors, you should get a mini-VCI cable and Techstream software to program them in using a laptop.
He should probably get that anyways, it does more than most of the CAN readers/programmers you can get.
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Also, if the 3G Prius is like the 2G (most likely), the Techstream software has an ID5 so he can get a sensor for the spare if he wants.
Hate TPMS -
If you can't afford multi-$1000 scan tools you are stuck guessing. My granddaughter's car kept showing TPMS warning, which stressed her out terribly. She would have the tire pressure checked and all four tires were fine, but the warning would remain. I happened to mention this to the counter man at AutoZone when I was buying some oil. He suggested to check the spare, and sure enough, it was almost flat. Nowhere in the manual does it say the spare remains part of the active TPMS while you are driving. Most people give no thought to the spare tire until they have a flat.
When you're scanning the sensors, best method is to scan it from the rubber. Since the rims can be blocking the frequencies sometime
What year is the new Prius?