It's amazing how simple non linear systems can produce such beautiful images. Probably it's no coincidence that these drawings look so much like those "flames" fractals.
I like that the machine hiccups in places, creating these breaks in the perfect rhythm of the lines. The ink flow stuttering is also nice, keeps it from becoming too mechanical.
I'm doing parametric modelling for my architecture now and these forms are amazing! Out of curiosity, after a long time, will it repeat the same thing again? or is it forever drawing a new line?
Laynie Fingers If the 'rules', or the speed of the motor and other factors like the diameters of the circles and linking are not changed during the operation, ideally it would repeat. But the pen is not copletely accurate and the links can move so it may not repeat itself.
Ich habe auch so ein ähnliches Gerät gebaut und würde mich interessieren, ob die kleineren Drehscheiben ein eingebautes Getriebe haben. Sind da Zahnräder drinnen verbaut?
I am using this as inspiration for a project I am working on now. I am at the stage of choosing the motors. Obviously our projects will have different torque requirements because of differing weights. (your spinning plate is metal and mine is light wood). How do I approximate the torque required to spin my disks and push my pantograph and pen along the paper, so as to choose the proper motor? Do I just use the weight of everything and the approximated friction of pen on paper? Thank you, your drawing machine is really incredible.
Quick question, is there a motor or gear driving the small circle as well? Or, is the small wheel just fixed to the large wheel and its turning freely as the large wheels are being driven around?. Also, is there a ratio between how large small circles are compared to small circles? Amazing video!
@Sergiocrivelin The form is a mathematic parametric curve, derived from the mechanism geometry. You can adjust the results setting some parameters like the ratio of the gear train that control the rulers
With a lot of these type machines you get a kind of osculation, or geometric pattern and it's really uniform, but not very interesting. But this seems much more random. That's very intriguing to me.
Excellent!! Superb!! It is very interesting how easily and how fast you can touch high complexity just by combining simple motions. How long doesn it take to repeat itself? When are these movenments periodic? -.
Ha Rosamvietnam The Motor is a DC 12V Motor, made in switzerland and very expensiv. Each Whell has a Motor. The speed of the Motors does not change, but it's a few different. Thank You and best. Alfred Hoehn
The guilloch is soo awesome, this machine knows how to make universal geometry! Try the hub with different shapes, square triangle rectangle and see what happens..
@alfredhoehn if you thought this was directed at you, it wasn't, it was directed towards whoever could possibly dislike this, i thought it was amazeing
Will the machine's drawing eventually form a closed loop? To find how long before the loop closes, you would need to find the smallest number that all the periods of all the wheels divide into (I think). So if the large wheels' periods are 9 and 10 seconds, and the 2 small wheels' periods are 6 and 7 seconds, then what is smallest number that is multiple of all those numbers? How about 630? So after 630 seconds or 10½ minutes, the loop would close. Course, that's assuming periods are exact.
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It's amazing how simple non linear systems can produce such beautiful images. Probably it's no coincidence that these drawings look so much like those "flames" fractals.
Ah... An electro-mechanical Spirograph kit... I loved these kind of drawings when I was a kid.
the drawings this thing makes are absolutely beautiful. awesome machine!
I like that the machine hiccups in places, creating these breaks in the perfect rhythm of the lines. The ink flow stuttering is also nice, keeps it from becoming too mechanical.
So simple, yet so amazing! Love it!
Very Interesting. Do you use a software do you use to write the programms to these drawings or is it only mechanical?
I'm doing parametric modelling for my architecture now and these forms are amazing!
Out of curiosity, after a long time, will it repeat the same thing again? or is it forever drawing a new line?
These are fascinating, almost hypnotic to watch. Do you have photographs of the finished drawings anywhere? Do the patterns ever repeat?
Laynie Fingers If the 'rules', or the speed of the motor and other factors like the diameters of the circles and linking are not changed during the operation, ideally it would repeat. But the pen is not copletely accurate and the links can move so it may not repeat itself.
dude you could sell those drawings for tons of money to a modern art museum
This is so satisfying
+huki07 Thank You, Alfred
The machine sounded like a bowling going down the lane. This is a cool machine that makes these awesome squigly rainbows.
Thank You for compliments!!!
Alfred
Thank You for compliments
Alfred Hoehn
I could watch that for hours. Really cool.
U SHOULD MAKE A FAST MOTION VIDEO AND IT WILL BE REALLY COOL
I think that drawing is a stylized version of the universe.
damn those are some beautiful lines!
Ich habe auch so ein ähnliches Gerät gebaut und würde mich interessieren, ob die kleineren Drehscheiben ein eingebautes Getriebe haben. Sind da Zahnräder drinnen verbaut?
@felineboy
Thank You for compliments Alfred Hoehn
Dude this is better art than the shit I see at art museum these days...
I enjoyed watching this. My kids think it is neat!
Thank you Alfred Hoehn!
@Tambitiousone
Thank you for compliments
Alfred
This isn't computer programming, this is engineering and mathematics. Mind you, computers make this much easier to design.
@NuustikCat
Thank You Alfred Hoehn
@Maxr616
Theoretical yes, it would be whole black. But in reality it begins to draw on the same lines after 3-4hours.
Thank you
Alfred
Quite simple machine, with the most awesome result! Not often you see something cool as that :b
That's really quite relaxing to watch. Nice work. :)
Wow, that's what I call art! How many turns does it have to do before it repeats itself?
This is a little more entertaining than the other drawing machine I just watched. Not by much but it's better
I can just smell the ball point pen ink now, reminding me of spiralgraph when I was 8.
Thank You very much for compliments
Alfred Hoehn
Sehr entspannend zu sehen!:)
Soooo ein schönes Bild! Tolle Leistung!
the designs are so amazingly lovely to look at.... but I'm, more, wondering about the pen! What kind was that - never seen one so smooth before.
These are the shapes you see when on DMT. In some strange way this all seems logical and fitting
I am using this as inspiration for a project I am working on now. I am at the stage of choosing the motors. Obviously our projects will have different torque requirements because of differing weights. (your spinning plate is metal and mine is light wood). How do I approximate the torque required to spin my disks and push my pantograph and pen along the paper, so as to choose the proper motor? Do I just use the weight of everything and the approximated friction of pen on paper? Thank you, your drawing machine is really incredible.
dudddee the drawing is sick man
if you start the wheels at different phases, does it make a completely different drawing?
@TheBeatDropper96
It is only a analog machine, no computer programming.
Thank you
Alfred
that moment when the pen runs out of ink...
Theank You for Your nice comment.
Alfred Hoehn
Quick question, is there a motor or gear driving the small circle as well? Or, is the small wheel just fixed to the large wheel and its turning freely as the large wheels are being driven around?. Also, is there a ratio between how large small circles are compared to small circles? Amazing video!
What type of pens did you use?
Danke, diese Idee würde wahrscheinlich die Vermarktung meiner Maschinen vorantreiben.
Alfred Hoehn
this is pretty awesome
@Kevster4569
Thank you for compliments. I can watch it for hours to
Alfred
This is so cool. It is computer controlled or just random drawing. Like, can you know what the machine will draw?
I don't know why but this whole video has a strong '80s vibe to it
Indeed
Well I imagine the machine is controlled by HAL.
@alfredhoehn does it happen because the discs have slightly different angular velocities?
@Sergiocrivelin The form is a mathematic parametric curve, derived from the mechanism geometry. You can adjust the results setting some parameters like the ratio of the gear train that control the rulers
That's so cool!
Thank You for compliments
Alfred
Yes, this is really mathematics.
Thank You
Alfred Hoehn
Did you use foam board or wood for the arms?
+Dan Man
I'm using foam board for the arms Alfred
Wow that's a nice pen.
Are the discs exactly the same?
That's nice, thank You
Alfred Hoehn
@MrShoy
Thats a good idea, thank You very much
Alred Hoehn
@xcombobreakerx
Thank you, that's nice...
Alfred Hoehn
With a lot of these type machines you get a kind of osculation, or geometric pattern and it's really uniform, but not very interesting. But this seems much more random. That's very intriguing to me.
Excellent!! Superb!!
It is very interesting how easily and how fast you can touch high complexity just by combining simple motions.
How long doesn it take to repeat itself? When are these movenments periodic?
-.
Damn! I could watch this for days, and yet i would´nt think I wasted time.
This maching is absolutely incredible. Directions for building one?
Time to rage when the pen runs out of ink
Do you think that it can be made on a computer, in 3D or 4D maybe?
THAT PEN IS AMAZING!!!
LOOK AT MY PEN, MY PEN IS AMAZING!!!
man,thats great!!!!!!
So this is how the Windows screensavers got created.
Cooles Mandala..Viel Spaß beim ausmalen ! :)
@razorron3
Thank You for Your nice words
Alfred
how long does the ink last if you just let it draw day and night?
damn that pen had a loot of ink
kan you make a full video of the entire process in a timelapse? perhaps a bit sped up
Ha Rosamvietnam
The Motor is a DC 12V Motor, made in switzerland and very expensiv. Each Whell has a Motor. The speed of the Motors does not change, but it's a few different.
Thank You and best.
Alfred Hoehn
@paloarteinc
Thank You Alfred
would it be whole black if you just leave it there?
I had one of these as a kid... it was called a Spirograph.
Awesome!! I just wonder how this machine change the pitch between lines..
The guilloch is soo awesome, this machine knows how to make universal geometry! Try the hub with different shapes, square triangle rectangle and see what happens..
Hello
I was wondering what are the measurements of the sticks, and what are the clamps you use to hold them?
i wouldn't mind getting some of those drawings and framing them
@miniboy23
sorry, I have no understand your question.
hank you
Alfred
@alfredhoehn there's a screensaver that draws similar figures, but in a 3-Dimensional fashion instead
no prob, I guess the shape of the hubs really don't matter since they rotate anyway
@alfredhoehn
Yes, tats absolutly correct.
Thank You
Alfred
@alfredhoehn if you thought this was directed at you, it wasn't, it was directed towards whoever could possibly dislike this, i thought it was amazeing
Now that it what I call art!!!
Seems like a nice machine.
Now stuff like thsi is useful. Show us the hidden geometry!
Way cool
Really really beautiful!!! Thanks.
@FlyingBlackDragon99
thank You
Alfred Hoehn switzerland
Hi ! Very beautiful, it seems the machine is blocked at 3:42.
i could watch this for days
Will the machine's drawing eventually form a closed loop? To find how long before the loop closes, you would need to find the smallest number that all the periods of all the wheels divide into (I think). So if the large wheels' periods are 9 and 10 seconds, and the 2 small wheels' periods are 6 and 7 seconds, then what is smallest number that is multiple of all those numbers? How about 630? So after 630 seconds or 10½ minutes, the loop would close. Course, that's assuming periods are exact.
It would be great to use a color changing pen
@Lovecraft365
thank You for compliments
Alfred Hoehn switzerland
How many times did you have to stop it to lick the tip of the ink-pen?
if you get good pens they won't dry out
also, klicking it does nothing
*licking
@xcombobreakerx
Thank you, that's very nice....
Alfred Hoehn
@camarosource haha i have to find out now!