For real, gaming keeps me from switching full time. Now I use windows for games only and Mac for code. Why do I punish myself. Love Linux and know a ton about it. But I keep bouncing my head off the wall
@@dethmetaldan666 yeah it's a lot better than it used to be for gaming but still not as good as windows, most of the games I play work perfectly on it but I still have 2 games I have to open a windows partition to play.
A common complaint about "My Computer" when Windows 95 came out was that it seemed to be babying the users. These days we want it back because we suspect our computers are no longer ours.
@@me-low-keyDo you mean devs supporting Linux will happen or anti cheat on Linux will happen? The way kernel anti cheat works on Windows is that it basically takes away root access to your own machine. That can never happen on Linux, so basically you can never have that kind of anti cheat on Linux.
Microsoft promised that WIN 10 would be the last Windows, as for me, they were not lying. The harder they insist on recall, the more I know they have sinister plans
Well, technically Windows 11 isn't actually Windows version 11. It's still Windows version 10. the '11' is actually a marketing gimmick. The 2023H2 will show as version 10.0.22631. If you want proof just open system information from start menu and look at the second line which will be "Version". So technically they didn't lie (although I think they originally said Windows 10 was going to be the Windows for the next 10 years. That's why they chose not to call it Windows 9. With Win 10 releasing back in 2015 and next year being 2025, they seem to be correct.)
Its in a local SQLite database that is located in %APPDATA%. How else will you snapshot machines that are disconnected from the internet. The issue is that just creates a giant DB that can be exported.
@@chedisLoL The issue is that they said very loudly and publicly that they had thought about the security implications and made it super secure then people discovered that it wasn't. So now nobody will trust any assurances they give that the data is secure or that they aren't syphoning it off for nefarious purposes. They have demonstrated that their marketing team doesn't talk to their development team at all and that nothing they say is remotely trustworthy.
i prefer dual boot because if im bored with the one, i can use the second, its like i have many tools in my hand :v also ssd is cheap, 200gb is enough for dual boot as my ssd is 200gb yet there are100gb space left still
I have been LIVID with Valve for years posting in their GitHub about their lack of ARM64 client binaries for Linux. I know they have ported the code because it works on M.2+ macs (which are ARM). This is willfully cutting out a large number of cheaper SERVER hardware as well because they WILL NOT release the steamclient-so lib for ARM64 Linux but DO have ARM64 dylibs for Mac. I cannot understate my anger. .
@@tehevilengineer7939 Not going to happen lol. That is FOSS. Everything gets forked or rebranded and it doesn't matter the distro or application. Do all forks stay running? Nope, 90% die within a year or two. Some become more successful in some regard.
Seriously. Even if Microsoft itself wasn’t going to do anything nefarious, it still makes it far more attractive to develop viruses knowing that potentially all you need to do is be able to read the data of one application running on the machine, and you instantly have everything lol
I agree, this is a foot in the door strategy, once they get the feature into your machine, enabling it is a trivial malicious update or confusing UAC screen away
Chris made another video. The feature is enabled by default in 24H2 and you can only disable it by running a powershell command. You can't find the feature in the UI.
@@Voidstroyer - In other words, if you're staying away from Linux because the console scares you, then this is a feature that you won't be able to turn off.
@@arthurwintersight7868 Not sure who your comment is meant for. I'm a software engineer (hence why i'm watching theprimeagen in the first place) so the console doesn't scare me. I was replying to the OP stating: "this is a foot in the door strategy, once they get the feature into your machine, enabling it is a trivial malicious update or confusing UAC screen away" and that the feature is enabled by default. And then I added further info in that the feature can not be disabled via the UI. Nobody was talking about being afraid of the console.
@@Voidstroyer they mean one reason people use windows as opposed to linux is they're not comfortable with this kind of stuff - so the "general public" is in a sense stuck with this.
Personally I'm more concerned about this eating SSDs like no tomorrow. Especially those with higher resolutions, one screenshot every 5 seconds could be 100GB a day. Most consumer SSDs are rated in the range of hundreds of TBW. That's just a few years for recall alone to use up the entire lifespan of an SSD. Most people probably don't even know the SSDs have limited writes. While we're here, that also ruins HDDs. Prevents them from ever spinning down, which is a huge waste of power and life.
TBF the entire thing with AI is that it's supposed to enable better compression by pulling out more of the actual meaning and discarding more of the fluff. Plus, your average desktop screenshot is _very_ compressible; it's all lines and text, very few images. This is how and why PDFs are so small. But you're right that it'll take up an awful lot of space either way and tear up hard drives -- either it'll be thrashing the disk, which SSDs don't like, or it'll keep the HDD spun up, which HDDs don't like. I guess they'll store the temporary stuff in RAM and only write to disk when necessary? But then Windows is going to compete with Chrome and thrash the disk with the swap file anyways. It's especially going to use a lot of storage since I can basically guarantee none of that data will _ever_ go away. I guess you'll just have to reinstall Windows every year now just to get anything to fit on a consumer hard drive. Oh well, cheaper 5TB drives and RAM for us Linux nerds, IG. Better and cheaper self-hosting servers for everyone, powered by Microsoft being an ass!
Yeah, they’re not going to store all the screenshots. They’re going to use AI to analyze the situation (screenshot, what app you are using, etc.) and keep what they feel is necessary. I would guess it’s two-fold, firstly they’re going to use you to train their AI in how to use all computer programs that run on windows. Secondly, they’re going to spy on you and create a deeper profile about you that they’ll use however they want. We already know that the government is trying to ban encryption and this will be part of their way of complying with that, is that if you are using an app for privacy, they’ll screenshot the text going into the app and document that and who it was going to.
in video (maybe newer than this one), Titus says it's not running when it's off, even though it's part of explorer (shell). so what exactly is this discussion about? how do we remove windows component that's not running? wanna know how i did it? older version of win11 plus wub by sordum, so it doesn't become new version of win. as that just slows down system. every time. since service packs.
Microsoft doing all this was a huge factor in me switching to linux full-time. That and once I started learning programming I found it easier on linux than windows even with wsl
So many people cope HARD for wsl bit it is just such a shitshow. You can so fucking easily fall into broken states where you need to do a full reboot of the computer to fix it and it freezes a ton and in general it's just a shitshow.
@@felixjohnson3874 I do not share that experience.. WSL works great. But it's just another way to take developers running linux to Windows. It's literally advertised as "run your favourite linux shit on our shit".
I have completely switched to Linux after the recall feature was first introduced and I haven't looked back since. After getting used to linux I don't miss anything about Windows anymore.
Have someone who has enabled recall and they were big fan of it in beginning. Now they admit they rarely use it because it wasn’t that helpful, they use their browser history more than recall 😂
Yeah it's gonna wreck performance. And even when gamers figure out ways to remove or disable recall, you can guarantee that every Windows update from small security definition updates to feature updates, recall is going to be re-implemented and switched back on each time.
They’re going to use it to train copilot more. They’re using teams calls to train copilot. They updated the privacy policy to even say this and now on my work calls there’s a prompt to accept in every recorded meeting that you agree to that privacy policy or else you’re unable to participate.
@@dragons_advocate idk what you use in your company, but for me it's just regularly used for meetings, presentations, reports, etc. I also wouldn't use it for nonsense or memes because the login email is a company email, so yeah, idk if IT can read my crap or not so I wouldn't take risks.
@@dragons_advocate .. do you work a job in any Microsoft pilled environment? Companies use it for their exclusive communication tools, there is a lot of information streamed through there that is private.
@TheStickofWar granted, we mostly use group chats that are more relaxed, anything sensitive goes over email. I acknowledge that our workflows may be a bit antiquated- all network shares and excel files and all that- but tbf, so are a lot of companies.
Let's be honest: this feature is, no COULD be useful for like 5% of the user base and 100% for reselling the big data for Microsoft and thus it will end up mandatory, unremovable and persistent.
Yeah there's nothing unremovable in Windows. It's not as modular as Linux but it's not as locked down aa Mac. You can disable whatever you want if you really want to do it, no matter what they try. Even Edge which they keep pushing and making impossible to remove by making it a system dependency and required by most things can still be removed if you really try.
@@theairaccumulator7144 True, but the main issue is how difficult it is to remove stuff. A big push with windows 12 is modularity. Or at least some component of windows being more modular. If you've ever made custom iso's you'd know how easy it is to remove something and then the OS breaks down the line when some feature from 15 years ago tries to call it and crashes.
@@theairaccumulator7144 Its more a matter of unremovable for the average user. People who know what they're doing can remove stuff like edge. But not average Joe.
I really can’t understand how this is just going ahead without more outrage. Whether you’re writing code for your enterprise that produces a product you need to keep safe or writing a medical report for a patient, this information should not be getting into a pool of AI without explicit submission and this recall tool just removes all privacy and combines all sorts of private data into a search database. You can’t search data if it’s not stored somewhere. Even if Microsoft can’t work out how to make the search work, the data is still there somewhere for others to mine
Because they're wrong. Recall does not get installed on 24H2 by default. And you can disable it. Microsoft has plenty of problems but making an unsupported modified installer and complaining about unexpected behavior is not one.
Most enterprise runs on windows, recall as bad as it is - well guess where OneDrive is stored, or SharePoint, even the repositories you mentioned - Azure DevOps and GitHub both owned by Microsoft (and sure you can host your own ADO server but most people hate the damn TFS); Ah, let's not forget about Exchange - also owned by Microsoft. Point being, recall changes very little in this regard, Microsoft already has access to plenty of corp data.The only thing that we have is their promise to not meddle with it.
Well, anyone who remembers Looney Toons animation... This is the moment users will go "That's all folks!" And say bye to MS. Thx Bill for everything, but we're going towards Linux
yeah but the react native based crap they have now is NOT running your desktop under the hood. That's still the same stuff from vista. they will never touch that legacy stuff literally ever
as a c++ dev, i no longer create windows apps unless i can cross-compile using mingw64 via docker container on linux. i do ensure msys2 compatibility for ppl other than me choosing to compile on windows directly. point being, it's much easier today to do win32 dev without a windows installation. screeenshotting dev sessions every 5 seconds or whatever is a no-go for me.
I wonder how do you deal with certificates on Windows? I made some multitool for myself to make some repeatable tasks at my work easier/faster, but found out, that authoritative certificate costs at least 100$ per year, which is too much for a free app and without it I need to verify each version of binary through microsoft's online malware checker, otherwise my app gets flagged as untrusted by windows defender and gets blocked, this is an issue, because at my work I do not have admin rights and simply cannot use my own fkn program! Such a PITA, this is the last time I wrote anything for windows!
i stopped paying for certs a few years ago. as companies continue to lock-down window's environments, i can only make a few suggestions. some may ofc not be doable depending on your brand of infosec: - use a vm on windows - use a mac with parallels - boot linux via usb key and run a windows vm - get creative with docker / wsl2 solutions - self-host proxmox or but a cheap vps and code remotely. if you just need (n)vim+tools, a self-hosted ssh server could do the trick - develop in your car on your own laptop :)
It's amazing how something the users/regulators don't want just magically becomes a dependency of Explorer. Just like when they made Explorer depend on IE for rendering folders and the desktop.
Its amazing how far past that we've gone. IE being an integral part of the OS was a big deal. Now, no one cares. Try to uninstall WebKit on MacOS, cannot be done. No one talks about it or has a lawsuit about it, it has become normal.
because this is coming in under regulatory requirements across 5 eyes to screen all content going in to devices. "wont someone think of the children" narrative. its going to be law.
Harvey Weinstein: Look I'm not saying you need to sleep with me to get a job with my studio, that would be illegal, but every job role just so happens to involve sleeping with me as part of the mandatory training, and you can't do the job without the mandatory training....but again, you don't need to sleep with me to get the job, its totally optional
Microsoft and windows aside, THIS, the loud asshole minority is what mostly kept me away from trying linux because I thought any issue I would encounter would be met with "then write your own code forehead" as if that's useful.
@@MonochromeAlex He was embraced by the inner circle and told of the plan which was to be. We wrote not because he saw it coming because he was told the plan and what was soon to be.
Another thing I'm surprised not as many people are talking about: this same update outright removes Windows Mixed Reality. A lot of VR headsets rely on WMR to function at all. People with WMR headsets will wake up very disappointed one day to see their system has automatically updated and their multi-hundred-dollar investment is now a brick.
Microsoft hasn't cared about compatibility for a long time. They used to be quite good. But they saw Apple and Google get by with just dropping features and products while everyone still loved them. So what's the point anymore?
@@username7763 Don't say everyone. Apple was good during the Apple II era but since after 9/11 especially after the death of Steve Jobs. They've become a shit company especially towards their lifelong customers. I was never big into Apple in the first place. Mostly custom-built PCs. I never really bought into any major manufactured PC such as Dell, HP, etc. Their all preconfigured with retrofitted OEM versions of the OS filled with all of their own inhouse bloatware, some of them are not easily upgradable. Take DELL for example, don't get me wrong they do make good quality systems, and their hardware is decent. The system runs great and their customer support - tech support is superb until your warranty runs out. After that 1, 2, or 3 year warranty and tech support expires and they are waiting and wanting you to subscribe to them. That's when their systems start to slow down, have errors, crashes, blue screens, etc... I know, not from owning a DELL but by working on over a 1/2 dozen of them from family members to friends to local neighbors. I've delt with and seen this pattern with DELL. When the system is new and still under warranty it runs great. If you have an issue and you call their support and give them the computer info, account info, they'll have that system back up and running like the day it was new in only a few hours' time provided it's not damaged hardware. After that warranty goes, the system slows down becomes laggy as fuck and if you get any kind of unhandled exception, missing driver errors, blue screens, etc... and you don't pay their $200 - 300 yearly service, your fucked and that system is nearly bricked. The only other option would be to wipe the drive completely and to install a fresh copy of your OS of choice. I don't love apple, fuck apple. Don't even hand me an iPhone, I'll throw it back at you and tell you that's your first problem, it's an iPhone. I still currently use Windows as I just know it going back to the DOS 6.0 and Windows 3.1 days, but I'm close to jumping ship. I think I might pick up either Mint or if I'm experimental enough, Arch. The last good OS Windows had that wasn't full of B.S. was Windows 7. Windows 8 was probably one of the worst. Windows 10 is okay but still sucks compared to Windows 7 and XP. It's all of their data collection, telemetry b.s. that they've added to their OS. If you do go with Windows, make sure it's at least a Pro or Ultimate version so you at least have access to group policies along with Windows PowerShell. With them you can write your own scripts to declutter Windows, but you better know about the Windows Kernel, Driver Modules, the System Registry, etc... It's not easy but it can be done.
I agree with prime that slippery slope is real. In fact, i wish there was a term for the slippery slope fallacy fallacy. Its a fallacy where you over-generalize the slippery slope fallacy as a thought stopping cliche. A true slippery slope fallacy is where you use the slippery slope concept instead of a reason as the key evidence for an argument where there is no other indication that things will escalate.
Yep. A real slippery slope fallacy is saying that allowing gay people to exist will lead to people being allowed to do horrible things to children. That's a real slippery slope fallacy. Not every use of the slippery slope is a fallacy, fallaciously using the slippery slope concept is a fallacy
bruv, slippery slope fallacy is just cause and effect that hasn't been justified. Once justified, then it either is deductively true, inductively true (meaning probability), or false altogether.
Pretty much every logical fallacy isn't actually a logical fallacy, as in, it doesn't violate logic. Most of these violate the consistency of generally held assumptions. A more appropriate name for them is "common principles of reason" or something like that
It's the only way Microshaft makes money anymore. They pissed away most of their ip's and the only thing I like from them is .net and c#, both of which ironically give me total freedom on Linux 😂. I use Arch, btw...
Start out with, “Hey, we’re just trying to help you”, then move to “Hey, we need to capture the data of people looking at CSAM and other criminals and report that to the authorities” then all of a sudden we’ll get a news report “The FBI was investigating a group of parents involved at a PTA meeting for domestic terrorism and is suing Microsoft for that information.” Then Microsoft will make a portal for the FBI to make it easy for the FBI to request everything about you and all your screenshots are going straight to an NSA server.
It's from the same company that's shoving OneDrive down everyone's throat, so it's only a matter of time before those images get stored on OneDrive where Microsoft can data mine. It's actually quite clever when you think about it, because most people aren't going to know.
The best part: people get so used to getting free services - that are just made to capture people and destroy any business that is not fueled by venture capital - that they don't even give a chance to anything that actually has sensible business model. Then people get offended when it turns out you have to pay for the free service...
8:40 That's the thing. We cannot know for sure until someone (likely the ExplorerPatcher/Windhawk folks) actually reverse-engineers and debugs Explorer to figure out what's what. Until then, all we know is that removing Recall via Windows's CBS/DISM now causes File Explorer to revert to the Win10 interface, when before it could run just fine without it.
Windows started flagging ExplorerPatcher as malware in the recent updates as well, so Microsoft is actively trying to stop that project from gaining anymore traction.
i think i've said this many times but there is something very respectable about being a vocal supporter of your "colleagues" in the youtube space, every time i see your reaction videos you always send love and positivity to other creators, whether big or small, i think it shows a lot of humility from you, knowing how big your persona is in the programming/tech part of youtube.
@@username7763 Yet only 1% linux distros install spyware on your device. The only distro that is popular atm that installs an AI chatbot is Deepin. Also some rumors of Ubuntu spyware back in the day, 10-15yrs ago.
@@username7763 At least with Linux, it's open source. So, if the contributors get up to nefarious shiate, it can be found. Can you say the same for your beloved Windows?
It's funny hearing the comment about bonus-driven-development. The first time I heard about this idea was actually from a Microsoft long-time engineer; Raymond Chen. In his blog he'll point out terrible user-hostile things software does and guess that someone got a nice bonus for that. I believe he's always pointing out this with non-Microsoft software but the general idea applies to all.
Imagine when they monitize everything created by their AI. "Hey, you like what we made for you? Pay me!" The great reset: "You will own nothing, and you'll be happy."
@@karakaaa3371 cant force an upgrade on computers that do not have sufficient HW for it. And i presume the most of the win10 computers are exactly those... older gen CPUs and motherboards without TPM enabled
Linux in all its desktop flavours only has a market share of 4.5%, Ubuntu has been around for 19 years, Linux Mint for 18 years, I’d call that an abject failure.
9:19 "Everyone says slippery slope is a fallacy" It's a *logical* fallacy: It only means that the conclusion drawn is unsupported; It means it cannot stand alone as an argument, not that it can't be circumstantial evidence - and circumstantial evidence is often quite compelling, so much so that people have been sent to prison for life based entirely on it.
I used to think slippery slope was a logical fallacy but then every time I turned around, one of those "fallacies" was brought into existence exactly as the person making the argument claimed. I'm to the point now where I no longer accept the rebuttal of it being a fallacy and go, "Prove to me it can't happen and I'll agree with you. What is stopping someone from doing exactly as the slope implies?" Of course, slippery slope is no different than using exaggeration to find where an argument breaks - it helps as a thought experiment of a "worst case" scenario. But yeah, if your only response is "No one would ever do that," well, I have some bad news for you....
@@commentinglife6175 Survivorship bias. There are plenty of slippery slopes to hypothesise about, but only a fraction of those end up being true. Sure it can be useful for the sake of risk management, but it is fallacious to use it to support an argument without showing proper causal reasoning of it being a likely outcome. It is not sound for the same reason as suggesting you should not travel in a car because you will eventually end up in a crash- it is fishing for an outcome and rejecting all others.
@@tukib_ While I don't disagree with you, I often hear slippery slope EVEN IF I can show a logical connection from A to B to R. Of course, as your car crash example shows, it is also important not to overstate the likelihood of an event. (Not sure what fallacy that falls under, but that is also a very prevalent one out there today - especially in the news media.) That brings up another issue; the "acceptability" of some fallacious arguments over others. It is a slippery slope to assume Microsoft is going to Micro-shaft over everything as they always do, but it is perfectly fine for governments/organizations to run ads saying if you use your phone while driving, you will die? I frankly see no difference in the logic of those two arguments - hence why I'm less forgiving of instantly discounting something simply because of "slippery slope fallacy" grounds.
@@commentinglife6175 The issue in both cases is the assumption: In the case of Microsoft the slippery slope is supported by historic cases where they've acted in exactly this manner, whilst the example of using a phone whilst driving is supported by accident statistics where being distracted was shown to be causal. The slippery slope itself is not and cannot be an argument in itself; It stands as a call to engage curiosity, and to demonstrate with data that the assumption is reasonable; Why the burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. Off on a tangent, but I've not seen these adverts suggesting I'll die if I use my phone: The suggestion I've always seen is that I might kill someone else, such as other road users or my passengers...
A necessary point to make, I think, is that fallacies are only fallacies when they're _wrong._ Appeal to authority, for example, is only a fallacy when the authority your appealing to is not an authority in the domain you're arguing about, or can't/won't/doesn't answer that specific question and supporting evidence. The genetic fallacy is only wrong if it's the _entire_ reason you dismiss an argument, no further thought needed -- it can still be supporting evidence. Begging the question is wrong only if the assumption you're making is wrong or weak.
I just googled to see people reactions from a week ago and boy, ... * "Its NPU only, it will not be on other systems". Well, its on every W11 system with that update. * "But it will not work without a NPU" ... need to explain that LLMs will work on iGPU or dGPU, CPU or NPUs. And that NPUs are only more optimized, for better power saving/performance, like you normally do not render a game on a CPU, but you CAN. * "But you can disable it and live with the old W10 explorer"... Until MS removed the old W10 explorer from W11. Just like they did in the past with several other features, where people disabled the "new stuff", and relied on the old implementations but when people started to do this too much, MS strangely removed those specific oldies, nothing else, just those 😉 * "But its not enabled / active for non-NPU" ... until MS pushes a update that auto enables it for all. * "But you can disabled it" ... until MS pushes another update that enables it without you realizing, like they did so many times with some edge features (if you use edge, always, ALWAYS check your setting after a update as some become "by accident" active again, especially privacy/$$$). * "But its just more work, just disable it every time"... until MS starts to make it impossible to disable like they did with Updates where you had multiple services backing each other up, so re-enable updates (after a slight delay so you do not notice it). Out of security for you, ofcourse! There is a lot of crap that is invasive but we never reached a point, where you actually have something spying by taking screenshots of your PC, OCRing the content and then saving this. I can not see this feature being allowed in any corporates office or secure settings. So are they going to pull a Windows Server, where specific junk is not present in specific OEM versions of Windows (doubt it, because people will pirate the hell out of that Version). Its amazing to see how MS keeps pushing this forwards knowing how much a issue this is for companies. So much Internet Explorer deja-vu feeling with these changes. MS really never learns ... And no, Linux is in my eyes still not a alternative to replace Windows for the biggest users groups. It just needs more money into it, more user friendliness, less "everybody their own thing"... But that is a different discussion we have had for the last 20 years. I only see a company like Valve pulling off a actual DESKTOP OS alternative to MS, with their deep pockets. But they are only interested in game sales, not desktop general, nor as corporate OS.
Making something "user friendly" is not the difficulty. Microsoft sells so much because Windows is preinstalled on so many computers. As a result, the only OS most people know how to use is Windows, so companies have to use Windows. Even just installing basic software on Windows is a massive headache with great potential for security failures (for example, Google decides that the top result for installing some software should be a virus... not that that could ever happen...). Compare that to Linux, with most distros containing a pre-installed app store that will satisfy all of a user's needs. If we choose 1 (freedom-respecting, user-friendly) distro to pre-install on everything, then Linux will become dominant over enough time.
@@headpenguin8758 Installing apps is all fine and dandy until that one dependency is out of date or isn't on your package manager repo... now you have to build it and find its been abandoned for many years but oops there is no alternatives so now you have to build it regardless... huh readme instructions didnt work for building it... now there are dependency issues for building this project too... you installed the deps but the header files/API is different from what the code uses... now you have to fix the code... at this point you give up and use windows where an actual application for what you need is available as a binary to download... because windows devs do not have "binaryphobia" and dont have to worry about building for one libc version and distro when it might not work on others cause there is only one windows... the fragmentation nature of GNU Linux distros is detriment to everyone...
Some of us are already using Linux. The only reason it's not an alternative is because some developers actively sabotage compatibility. Stop doing business with those guys.
The Linux community hates money, unification, and forced user friendliness. This is not a dig at the Linux community, either. I'm an avid Linux user. I've had to dig through kernel source code to fix driver issues with kernel command line arguments. I've used Arch before I got tired of constant breaking changes. I am a diehard fan of the way Linux does things. That said, the community has a general revulsion for user friendliness on a technical level. Ask the Linux neckbeards about their opinion about SystemD and you'll see. There's a lot of hate for it because it goes against the Linux philosophy of self-contained services and does everything a user needs from an init system. I also have a love/hate relationship with SystemD... as a person who has wrote their own init system. Users also hate gnome, open desktop, and various other projects whenever projects start to try to sway protocols and norms in favor of usability. Because Linux users by and large prefer flexibility, but this makes it harder to create a cohesive ecosystem... Another place where this was especially apparent was in the debate about client-side versus server-side decorations for Wayland compositors.
This is absolutely terrifying and I'm glad i made the full switch to Linux about a year ago. P.S. I was kind of a dick to you a while back Prime, my bad, that wasn't cool.
I've used windows for 14 years, and after they announced recall I said "yeah, time for linux" and installed linux mint on my pc. I'll not say it was painless, but, it was definitely worth it. I had experiences with linux before, but I never had a big reason to change the main OS before.
I had a helluva time w/ Ubuntu until 10+ years ago and in principle I want to try it again but 3 years of being bitten makes it something to procrastinate on.
I moved to Linux full time two years ago when Proton became good enough to play all the games i play on a regular basis. I cant imagine ever going back.
its going to be like every other feature that is a privacy nightmare. They make it mandatory, then they give you an option to turn it off but this option only works for enterprise edition(govt and corpo), for the the average consumer this option will just give a false sense of security since it is ignored on non enterprise editions.
Trust me bro is corporate speak for "Ha haha, why would you trust a corporation?" They will syphon every possible dollar to recoup their investments into AI hardware. They sunk in billions into Nvidia and OpenAI alone
Microsoft has a long history with generic product names: Mediaplayer, SQL Server, Office, and of course Windows! They didn't invent to concept of GUIs or Windows.
Gaming on Linux got so much better since the release of the Steamdeck. Currently the main problem are games running root level anticheat SW, which should not be ever allowed in any OS anyway. For the last 6 months I'm using Nobara (Fedora based distro focused on gaming created by a maintainer of Proton-GE) and I'm really happy with it. It has some issues, but those are things that will get eventually fixed and more people using it just speeds the process.
When Recall was first rolled out cleverer people than me installed it and had it working on "normal" PCs without a NPU. Recall *never* needed an NPU, but requiring one is a great way to drive hardware sales.
Embrace extend extinguish was for stealing others' work in order to monopolize. The new memo is a more complex "5 Stages of the Path": 1. Default OFF, 2. Default ON, 3. Optionally Removable, 4. Non-removable optional opt-out, 5. Mandatory. Calling this "mandatory" or stage 5 is a bit premature, we're not there yet actually.
Been running an experiment with my old desktop (9700k,2080) running linux and Proton for the past couple of months, and I'm pleasantly surprised with just how many games run well now. Heck, Metaphor ran day-one, out-of-the-box, without any significant issues. I'm pretty well convinced at this point that my next gaming system (which I'm planning on building within the next year) will *not* have a Windows installation at all.
I like your take on bonus-driven development. It presumes incompetence instead of malice, and assuming incompetence is usually the rational assumption.
I know as soon as I say this, I'm probably going to get a lot of backlashes for it. I've seen it happen at a rate of about 90% by now as it is expected. Hmm; does Revelation 13 ring a bell?
Prime is spot on about 'bonus driven development'. I work at Microsoft AI (not in copilot) and this is true - allied products are incentivized to drive copilot growth.
The video mentions that the requirement is to leave recall installed, then disable it later. That makes me think of a RedHat Linux issue that was discovered a couple major releases back. If IPV6 isn't used in an enterprise, prior to RHEL6.4 or something, we could disable IPV6 completely, by an entry in grub, if my memory is correct, but after 6.4, systems would fail to boot if IPV6 was disabled using that method. It had to be allowed to load with the OS and we had to disable it in components where we didn't want it to be active. So having Recall required to be installed isn't that surprising. It's just an issue that it has to exist at all.
LLMs need data. Ai needs big data. I wonder where they will get all the data they need to have the best Ai? From your computer. I wonder howbstealing confidential and sensitive information from companies, banks, governments and private citizens for personal profit fairs. Legally, if my data isngoing to make your Ai great... I need royalties from that as well. So microsoft will end up having to pay alot of people. Moneh for using their data
I wonder how reliable this AI will be at spitting out the real name, address, and other personal information that's associated with the username of someone who got on your nerves. It's well known that AI developers try to lock this down (as Microsoft certainly will), but clever queries can usually get around that.
Microsoft is on the AI hype train in a big way. They need billions of PC screenshots with contextual information (what was clicked, what was typed in, what was on the screen etc...) to train an AI model to use windows, and to use all apps that all users might have installed. There is no way to believe they aren't going to be uploading and capturing this data for their own use.
Yeah, in 2024 it's tough to beat when it comes to ease of use. I stopped using Windows when Windows 8 was released and a few weeks ago I helped my brother set up his Windows 11 PC. I was so annoyed by so many unnecessary things - online login, all the things you need to deactivate, etc. A real frustrating experience if you're used to Windows 7 and the previous versions. Linux and MacOS are now less frustrating.
99% of normies play games like Valorant with kernel level anticheat which can't be run under Linux. Even Roblox pulled Linux support and is looking into kernel level anticheat itself so not even the kids could game on Linux in a year or two.
@@theairaccumulator7144 people who install rootkits on their PC don't give a shit about windows recall. I don't care what people game on. I just think since it's 2024 people need to stop thinking Linux gaming is still like it was in 2010
Stop lying. Linux is abysmal to use and utterly counterintuitive. If it wasn’t then nobody would be using windows. Nothing Valve can do will change that Linux is cancer. Your cope doesn’t change reality.
@@arthurwintersight7868 I had the privilege to have a RaspberryPi be my first own computer, so I learnt how to use computers in general through Linux, not through Window$. And I did run Win10 on my laptop when I got it, simply because that was what was on there and I wasn't experienced enough yet to replace it. And the time flies, now I've been using mainly Linux for about seven years (Why does the time need to fly so fast 😭) and when I was, for school, forced to interact with Win11 it was horrible, as if it smelled that I like to have full control over my computer and actively put up small barriers just for me. And I'm glad that my school's only rule for the PCs about the OS on it is "Don't remove Window$", so installing Linux next to Window$ is allowed. And 99.999% of the time I can do everything I need on Linux, only every once in a while I have to go into Window$ for the Safe Exam Browser (which for some reason has no Linux version?).
Glad I use Mac more than Windows. Not saying it’s much better but I do know it’s not taking screen shots every few minutes. Bigger question is how is this not overreach and a breach of privacy. No doubt the next tool, will be to allow sys admins access to this as a way of selling work from home or just simply monitor your staff even closer.
Moved to Firefox from Chrome last month after seeing Google aggressively pushing Gemini and anti-adblock tech via "manifest v3: we really care about you" (they don't), and after this video I'm cooking an Arch Linux USB. Bless Valve for having my favorite games work flawlessly on Linux.
Gaming on Linux is already figured out. Lutris + Wine + Proton and I can run every out of ~30 games that I play PERFECTLY - even with mods and older savegames. I moved permanently to Void Linux 4 months ago and was pretty easy to set up and install as I'm a developer already.
And just when I was considering to move back. There are things that unfortunately still don't work on Linux, and I've been thinking "maybe I'll just be fine with WSL" But it's because of the very fact that Windows 11 is a giant spyware and Windows 10 is nearing end of life that I still don't. If Windows doesn't start respecting their users again, then I'm never going back ever again.
Always questioned the logic of those people… Oh so you’re wanting to hand over your data? Hand me your credit cards then. No? Huh, a moment prior you said you didn’t care.
But what they don't realise is they can no longer do online banking on that computer and can no longer make purchases because the spyware will record everything they type in
The Problem is, even if this is opt out, normal everyday people won't even know about it. And even if they know, they won't understand the consequences of it. And you can't blame them for it. Most people just buy the thing that the guy at the local computer store recommended for them. They just want something working!! Microsoft can just do everything they want, cause people don't have the time, nor the know how to think about these things!
Actually Valve did pretty much everything they could already, Steam nowadays is hella compatible with ProtonDB and is very easy to setup in any distro (pretty much does it for you) the games that don't work on linux are the ones dependent on anticheat software, so is up to the players to start using linux and to pressure publishers to enable AC support for these games.
Bro, microsoft literally just funded the restart of a nuclear plant. they *absolutely* plan to take in a bunch of data in the next year or two. why would MS need a literal nuclear power plant for a data center otherwise?
Remember how everybody was clamoring for more surveillance opportunities in their software? I know I was. It was already PRETTY good with all the microphones and cameras and IoT but it still wasn't keeping an actual real time log of every single thing I did on my computer, finally someone stepped up. Thank you Microsoft! 🥰
The feature is a mandatory dependency for the new explorer.exe so removing it breaks the desktop, taskbar and file explorer. So many birds with one stone.
I think one other reason they are enforcing it is that they are running out of new data to train their A.I. models. They will just gobble up everything, including user data to train models to replace companie’s workers.
I already dual boot Linux. I really love it. I'm still learning it, but if I could play more of my games on there, I would drob windows like a bad habit.
18 months ago I finally switched from windows 7 to Linux (manjaro with xfce) full time for my last remaining windows device my desktop gaming pc. I've not looked back since, zero regrets.
KPI driven development. Bonus driven development. I love all these takes.😂 I see these s the results of managers not understanding statical biases and the futility of control.
It's a dumb-terminal for the cloud these days. Cannot have the masses walking around with their own personal computers, who know what they might do with them.
A tip: Go with OpenSUSE. During installation it can detect Windows if that thing is installed on your machine and adds Windows into the bootloader auto. Makes it very easy to dual boot.
Also OpenSUSE has YasT, very similar to Windows’s Settings and can do a lot more, all in one place. Also allows the user to search for packages, install and uninstall, all in a GUI. As far as I know only OpenSUSE does this.
@@F_Around_and_find_out What you describe is part of many more user friendly and maybe also a bit more bloated distros. E.g. Ubuntu has the Snap App Store where you can download apps and small packages in a GUI like an app store
@@F_Around_and_find_outUbuntu, Manjaro and Fedora all have those features, and have had them for a long time now, for sure. Probably many others as well.
@@trollwarlord2967 I put WIN11 on a 13-year-old laptop. A 2000 series CPU. Recall was automatically installed and running on it when 24h2 released. "requires an NPU" my foot.
Slippery Slope is only a fallacy if you confuse it with a guarantee. Sure, it's POSSIBLE that Microsoft won't abuse Recall now that it exists, but that doesn't mean there isn't a high chance that they will. A slippery slope is a statistically sound claim when applied to most of human nature barring concrete deterrents.
Moving to Linux, mandatory.
Come on over. The games work here much better than 10 years ago.
Remember, switching to your Linux is always faster than reloading windows
For real, gaming keeps me from switching full time. Now I use windows for games only and Mac for code. Why do I punish myself. Love Linux and know a ton about it. But I keep bouncing my head off the wall
Year of the Linux desktop let's go!
@@dethmetaldan666 yeah it's a lot better than it used to be for gaming but still not as good as windows, most of the games I play work perfectly on it but I still have 2 games I have to open a windows partition to play.
"The computer is no longer personal"
This is very much the point of the cloud. PC's mean you have control. The cloud means that large tech corporations have control.
From "My computer" to "This computer"
A common complaint about "My Computer" when Windows 95 came out was that it seemed to be babying the users. These days we want it back because we suspect our computers are no longer ours.
but it is Politically Controlled
Nah, bro is TOO personal, and all of 0% private
That's why Valve went full Linux, Windows is a time bomb.
Im really hopeful that valve and steam can help persuade the public to switch to linux. It would be a disaster if microsoft gets away with this shit
Lord Gaben: "Always has been"
anti cheats is the main thing holding back developers from supporting linux as well, but one day it will happen.
@@maxave7448 Valve won't since devs won't. They want anti-cheat and DRM software which often don't support Linux (often not even macOS)
@@me-low-keyDo you mean devs supporting Linux will happen or anti cheat on Linux will happen? The way kernel anti cheat works on Windows is that it basically takes away root access to your own machine. That can never happen on Linux, so basically you can never have that kind of anti cheat on Linux.
Microsoft promised that WIN 10 would be the last Windows,
as for me, they were not lying.
The harder they insist on recall, the more I know they have sinister plans
Well, windows 10 indeed, was the last operating system microsoft ever released, windows 11 is just a glorified spyware at this point
Well, technically Windows 11 isn't actually Windows version 11. It's still Windows version 10. the '11' is actually a marketing gimmick. The 2023H2 will show as version 10.0.22631. If you want proof just open system information from start menu and look at the second line which will be "Version". So technically they didn't lie (although I think they originally said Windows 10 was going to be the Windows for the next 10 years. That's why they chose not to call it Windows 9. With Win 10 releasing back in 2015 and next year being 2025, they seem to be correct.)
Like recording your usage. Who for because I don't see the point in the program if it's not for me than who?
@@quilnux They skipped the number 9 because Windows 95, 98, 98SE, and ME were collectively referred to as 9x.
Microsoft never claimed the 'don't store it anywhere'. The claimed they stored it 'securely' which it turned out they didn't.
Let's be real, security never was a priority, not for Windows or its users.
Its in a local SQLite database that is located in %APPDATA%. How else will you snapshot machines that are disconnected from the internet. The issue is that just creates a giant DB that can be exported.
Well, it's not like Windows security could be somehow compromised and hundreds of millions of devices get exposes. Oh, wait...
@@chedisLoL there can be a million ways this can be done better, but Micro$hit didn't and Apple did, and Apple did multiple times on MacOS
@@chedisLoL The issue is that they said very loudly and publicly that they had thought about the security implications and made it super secure then people discovered that it wasn't. So now nobody will trust any assurances they give that the data is secure or that they aren't syphoning it off for nefarious purposes. They have demonstrated that their marketing team doesn't talk to their development team at all and that nothing they say is remotely trustworthy.
I hope the EU forces them to make it COMPLETELY optional!!
Then they'll make it look optional everywhere, but ignore your choice outside the EU.
Yeah that's exactly what I thought how could they even do this in the eu
its going to take a while
The eu is turning marxist.
Make it completety UNINSTALLABLE! Or give choicecof not being installed in the first place.
10/10 feature. Not even gonna dual boot windows anymore, going pure linux.
good choice
i prefer dual boot because if im bored with the one, i can use the second, its like i have many tools in my hand :v also ssd is cheap, 200gb is enough for dual boot as my ssd is 200gb yet there are100gb space left still
I wish I could do that but no good CAD software runs on Linux
@@roymarshall_ time to write one 😊, on another hand, give it a chance, for me it’s been a year already, I don’t want to go back
@@shm236 i dual boot solely so I can put ‘PDFs’ on my iPad. iTunes doesn’t work on Linux
“Valve NEEDS to launch SteamOS desktop for the good of every person” is EXACTLY what the situation is.
in the meantime there's bazzite.
@@BronzeAgePepper and nobara. Plenty of good choices to make the switch now.
They can just make all the games work on Linux and the job is done. They are most of the way there already.
@@BronzeAgePepper how is ray tracing on linux nowdays?
I have been LIVID with Valve for years posting in their GitHub about their lack of ARM64 client binaries for Linux. I know they have ported the code because it works on M.2+ macs (which are ARM). This is willfully cutting out a large number of cheaper SERVER hardware as well because they WILL NOT release the steamclient-so lib for ARM64 Linux but DO have ARM64 dylibs for Mac. I cannot understate my anger. .
It's not just that steam needs to win. People need to start valuing digital privacy more than the products that force you to give it up.
sure but Linux needs to move away from a hellscape of solving every disagreement with a fork.
Ain't gonna happen.
But... but... but it's so convenient not to...
@@tehevilengineer7939 Not going to happen lol. That is FOSS. Everything gets forked or rebranded and it doesn't matter the distro or application.
Do all forks stay running? Nope, 90% die within a year or two. Some become more successful in some regard.
Linux mint will devour windows if we can get it to run games.
11:03 At this point they are creating frontdoors, the house is filled with with backdoors and windows.
Seriously. Even if Microsoft itself wasn’t going to do anything nefarious, it still makes it far more attractive to develop viruses knowing that potentially all you need to do is be able to read the data of one application running on the machine, and you instantly have everything lol
...filled with windows, 11, in fact.
You are wise.
Not just front doors. It's literally the Gaza tunnels with a floor-hatch coming right up into your house. 🏡
I agree, this is a foot in the door strategy, once they get the feature into your machine, enabling it is a trivial malicious update or confusing UAC screen away
I wonder whether it's not a "foot self-shot full of lead" strategy...
Chris made another video. The feature is enabled by default in 24H2 and you can only disable it by running a powershell command. You can't find the feature in the UI.
@@Voidstroyer - In other words, if you're staying away from Linux because the console scares you, then this is a feature that you won't be able to turn off.
@@arthurwintersight7868 Not sure who your comment is meant for. I'm a software engineer (hence why i'm watching theprimeagen in the first place) so the console doesn't scare me. I was replying to the OP stating: "this is a foot in the door strategy, once they get the feature into your machine, enabling it is a trivial malicious update or confusing UAC screen away" and that the feature is enabled by default. And then I added further info in that the feature can not be disabled via the UI. Nobody was talking about being afraid of the console.
@@Voidstroyer they mean one reason people use windows as opposed to linux is they're not comfortable with this kind of stuff - so the "general public" is in a sense stuck with this.
Even if slippery slope is a fallacy, Microsoft has shown us repeatedly that they enjoy greasing gradual vertical declines.
Recent history has reinforced that "slippery slope" was never a fallacy, those wanting to slide down it simply stated as such
@@xraze6906Many ignore that someone can grease the slope because they saw the slope be clean once.
Not a fallacy. Empirical lab research in the real world confirms high correlation to people slipping on slippery slopes. 😉
Never was a fallacy. In fact, the idea that it's a fallacy was induced via fallacies.
the Slippery Slope Fallacy is called that because the Slippery Slope period is not a fallacy it's a basic argument.
ReCall?
RecAll!
Rec(ord)All
They are gonna have to do a recall, yes
oh damn, that might actually not be a coincidence.
@@TheBadFred Record (Big) All (Brother)
Dayum
Personally I'm more concerned about this eating SSDs like no tomorrow. Especially those with higher resolutions, one screenshot every 5 seconds could be 100GB a day. Most consumer SSDs are rated in the range of hundreds of TBW. That's just a few years for recall alone to use up the entire lifespan of an SSD. Most people probably don't even know the SSDs have limited writes.
While we're here, that also ruins HDDs. Prevents them from ever spinning down, which is a huge waste of power and life.
TBF the entire thing with AI is that it's supposed to enable better compression by pulling out more of the actual meaning and discarding more of the fluff. Plus, your average desktop screenshot is _very_ compressible; it's all lines and text, very few images. This is how and why PDFs are so small.
But you're right that it'll take up an awful lot of space either way and tear up hard drives -- either it'll be thrashing the disk, which SSDs don't like, or it'll keep the HDD spun up, which HDDs don't like. I guess they'll store the temporary stuff in RAM and only write to disk when necessary? But then Windows is going to compete with Chrome and thrash the disk with the swap file anyways. It's especially going to use a lot of storage since I can basically guarantee none of that data will _ever_ go away. I guess you'll just have to reinstall Windows every year now just to get anything to fit on a consumer hard drive. Oh well, cheaper 5TB drives and RAM for us Linux nerds, IG. Better and cheaper self-hosting servers for everyone, powered by Microsoft being an ass!
They don't store the screenshot
They extract text from the screenshot, then store that. And text is cheap to store
Yeah, they’re not going to store all the screenshots. They’re going to use AI to analyze the situation (screenshot, what app you are using, etc.) and keep what they feel is necessary. I would guess it’s two-fold, firstly they’re going to use you to train their AI in how to use all computer programs that run on windows. Secondly, they’re going to spy on you and create a deeper profile about you that they’ll use however they want. We already know that the government is trying to ban encryption and this will be part of their way of complying with that, is that if you are using an app for privacy, they’ll screenshot the text going into the app and document that and who it was going to.
@@SirLightfireIt is still a death by a thousand cuts for the drives
in video (maybe newer than this one), Titus says it's not running when it's off, even though it's part of explorer (shell).
so what exactly is this discussion about?
how do we remove windows component that's not running?
wanna know how i did it?
older version of win11 plus wub by sordum, so it doesn't become new version of win. as that just slows down system. every time. since service packs.
Microsoft doing all this was a huge factor in me switching to linux full-time. That and once I started learning programming I found it easier on linux than windows even with wsl
So many people cope HARD for wsl bit it is just such a shitshow. You can so fucking easily fall into broken states where you need to do a full reboot of the computer to fix it and it freezes a ton and in general it's just a shitshow.
@@felixjohnson3874 never had any issues with it
@@felixjohnson3874 I do not share that experience.. WSL works great.
But it's just another way to take developers running linux to Windows.
It's literally advertised as "run your favourite linux shit on our shit".
I have completely switched to Linux after the recall feature was first introduced and I haven't looked back since.
After getting used to linux I don't miss anything about Windows anymore.
Have someone who has enabled recall and they were big fan of it in beginning. Now they admit they rarely use it because it wasn’t that helpful, they use their browser history more than recall 😂
Can't wait for the 10 frame long stutters every 5 seconds while trying to play a video game.
On top of the obvious privacy issues ofc.
Yeah it's gonna wreck performance. And even when gamers figure out ways to remove or disable recall, you can guarantee that every Windows update from small security definition updates to feature updates, recall is going to be re-implemented and switched back on each time.
They’re going to use it to train copilot more. They’re using teams calls to train copilot. They updated the privacy policy to even say this and now on my work calls there’s a prompt to accept in every recorded meeting that you agree to that privacy policy or else you’re unable to participate.
@LeetHaxington If you ever used Teams, you wouldn't want an AI trained on that. Teams is for smalltalk, nonsense, memes and video calls.
@@dragons_advocate idk what you use in your company, but for me it's just regularly used for meetings, presentations, reports, etc. I also wouldn't use it for nonsense or memes because the login email is a company email, so yeah, idk if IT can read my crap or not so I wouldn't take risks.
@@dragons_advocate .. do you work a job in any Microsoft pilled environment?
Companies use it for their exclusive communication tools, there is a lot of information streamed through there that is private.
@TheStickofWar granted, we mostly use group chats that are more relaxed, anything sensitive goes over email. I acknowledge that our workflows may be a bit antiquated- all network shares and excel files and all that- but tbf, so are a lot of companies.
They are copying the behavior of office workers in order to sell cheaper versions of it.
Let's be honest: this feature is, no COULD be useful for like 5% of the user base and 100% for reselling the big data for Microsoft and thus it will end up mandatory, unremovable and persistent.
Yeah there's nothing unremovable in Windows. It's not as modular as Linux but it's not as locked down aa Mac. You can disable whatever you want if you really want to do it, no matter what they try. Even Edge which they keep pushing and making impossible to remove by making it a system dependency and required by most things can still be removed if you really try.
@@theairaccumulator7144and then you also have to reremove it after every major update
@@theairaccumulator7144 True, but the main issue is how difficult it is to remove stuff. A big push with windows 12 is modularity. Or at least some component of windows being more modular. If you've ever made custom iso's you'd know how easy it is to remove something and then the OS breaks down the line when some feature from 15 years ago tries to call it and crashes.
@@theairaccumulator7144 Its more a matter of unremovable for the average user. People who know what they're doing can remove stuff like edge. But not average Joe.
@@Erowens98 until it reinstalls itself again in the next update, yeah
I really can’t understand how this is just going ahead without more outrage. Whether you’re writing code for your enterprise that produces a product you need to keep safe or writing a medical report for a patient, this information should not be getting into a pool of AI without explicit submission and this recall tool just removes all privacy and combines all sorts of private data into a search database. You can’t search data if it’s not stored somewhere. Even if Microsoft can’t work out how to make the search work, the data is still there somewhere for others to mine
The first version of this literally parsed data into a big txt file if I remember right 😂
Because it does not install Recall app
💯
Because they're wrong. Recall does not get installed on 24H2 by default. And you can disable it. Microsoft has plenty of problems but making an unsupported modified installer and complaining about unexpected behavior is not one.
Most enterprise runs on windows, recall as bad as it is - well guess where OneDrive is stored, or SharePoint, even the repositories you mentioned - Azure DevOps and GitHub both owned by Microsoft (and sure you can host your own ADO server but most people hate the damn TFS); Ah, let's not forget about Exchange - also owned by Microsoft.
Point being, recall changes very little in this regard, Microsoft already has access to plenty of corp data.The only thing that we have is their promise to not meddle with it.
Well, anyone who remembers Looney Toons animation... This is the moment users will go "That's all folks!" And say bye to MS. Thx Bill for everything, but we're going towards Linux
It’s not just the file explorer. Explorer is also the shell that shows the desktop (task bar and files on the background)
yeah but the react native based crap they have now is NOT running your desktop under the hood. That's still the same stuff from vista. they will never touch that legacy stuff literally ever
Ye Explorer is basically what KDE and dolphin is on some distos.
As anyone who ever had it crash knows
@@paro2210 kwin=explorer dolphin=file epxlorer.
@@XDarkGreyX you can also end task in task manager and get a similar effect
as a c++ dev, i no longer create windows apps unless i can cross-compile using mingw64 via docker container on linux. i do ensure msys2 compatibility for ppl other than me choosing to compile on windows directly. point being, it's much easier today to do win32 dev without a windows installation. screeenshotting dev sessions every 5 seconds or whatever is a no-go for me.
I wonder how do you deal with certificates on Windows? I made some multitool for myself to make some repeatable tasks at my work easier/faster, but found out, that authoritative certificate costs at least 100$ per year, which is too much for a free app and without it I need to verify each version of binary through microsoft's online malware checker, otherwise my app gets flagged as untrusted by windows defender and gets blocked, this is an issue, because at my work I do not have admin rights and simply cannot use my own fkn program! Such a PITA, this is the last time I wrote anything for windows!
i stopped paying for certs a few years ago. as companies continue to lock-down window's environments, i can only make a few suggestions. some may ofc not be doable depending on your brand of infosec:
- use a vm on windows
- use a mac with parallels
- boot linux via usb key and run a windows vm
- get creative with docker / wsl2 solutions
- self-host proxmox or but a cheap vps and code remotely. if you just need (n)vim+tools, a self-hosted ssh server could do the trick
- develop in your car on your own laptop :)
It's amazing how something the users/regulators don't want just magically becomes a dependency of Explorer. Just like when they made Explorer depend on IE for rendering folders and the desktop.
Its amazing how far past that we've gone. IE being an integral part of the OS was a big deal. Now, no one cares. Try to uninstall WebKit on MacOS, cannot be done. No one talks about it or has a lawsuit about it, it has become normal.
Good point. Didn't MS lose a lawsuit for forcing IE on everyone? Time for the DoJ to break out the ol' Anti-trust laws again. They're getting dusty.
@@username7763 - Meanwhile on Linux, you can swap out pretty much everything if you're brave enough.
The linux version of this is systemD
@@Skelterbane69 if you can replace systemd's functions, then you can uninstall it.
How are the people responsible not committing a federal crime? For whom are the laws made for?
who do you think owns the lawmakers?
because this is coming in under regulatory requirements across 5 eyes to screen all content going in to devices.
"wont someone think of the children" narrative. its going to be law.
Because we live in corrupt totalitarian oligarchies. My first, more detailed comment was auto-censored.
Because corporation can lobby the government to make laws that fit them.
The _other_ *Golden Rule:*
_He who has the gold, makes the rules._
Harvey Weinstein: Look I'm not saying you need to sleep with me to get a job with my studio, that would be illegal, but every job role just so happens to involve sleeping with me as part of the mandatory training, and you can't do the job without the mandatory training....but again, you don't need to sleep with me to get the job, its totally optional
A true business man.
hollywood casting couch.
Ripped from the casting couch contract
Actually it's either you sleep with me or you're blacklisted I'll make sure of it 5:47
EVERYONE DO YOUR PART, you gotta help people switching to linux, create a welcoming atmosphere etc
this is opt it and it wont run on non copilot+ PCs anyways so its a non issue
@@shadowreaperscpf did you even watch the same video as me lmao
@@SahilP2648 its not mandatory omfg they changed it to opt in
@@SahilP2648
Ya the video is literally wrong. Welcome to fud channels for clicks.
Microsoft and windows aside, THIS, the loud asshole minority is what mostly kept me away from trying linux because I thought any issue I would encounter would be met with "then write your own code forehead" as if that's useful.
Who knew the actual name for Recall is Big Brother?
tf? microsoft literally little broing people now?
@@innocentguest.4999das was George Orwell joke
we truly live in 1984
@@geometrixts No joke. Anyone thinking it is a joke, is a joke.
@@MonochromeAlex He was embraced by the inner circle and told of the plan which was to be. We wrote not because he saw it coming because he was told the plan and what was soon to be.
Another thing I'm surprised not as many people are talking about: this same update outright removes Windows Mixed Reality. A lot of VR headsets rely on WMR to function at all. People with WMR headsets will wake up very disappointed one day to see their system has automatically updated and their multi-hundred-dollar investment is now a brick.
Microsoft hasn't cared about compatibility for a long time. They used to be quite good. But they saw Apple and Google get by with just dropping features and products while everyone still loved them. So what's the point anymore?
@@username7763 - ...and this is why I use Linux.
can't believe ms destroyed all excuses to not switch to linux in one fell swoop
@@username7763 Don't say everyone. Apple was good during the Apple II era but since after 9/11 especially after the death of Steve Jobs. They've become a shit company especially towards their lifelong customers. I was never big into Apple in the first place. Mostly custom-built PCs. I never really bought into any major manufactured PC such as Dell, HP, etc. Their all preconfigured with retrofitted OEM versions of the OS filled with all of their own inhouse bloatware, some of them are not easily upgradable. Take DELL for example, don't get me wrong they do make good quality systems, and their hardware is decent. The system runs great and their customer support - tech support is superb until your warranty runs out. After that 1, 2, or 3 year warranty and tech support expires and they are waiting and wanting you to subscribe to them. That's when their systems start to slow down, have errors, crashes, blue screens, etc... I know, not from owning a DELL but by working on over a 1/2 dozen of them from family members to friends to local neighbors. I've delt with and seen this pattern with DELL. When the system is new and still under warranty it runs great. If you have an issue and you call their support and give them the computer info, account info, they'll have that system back up and running like the day it was new in only a few hours' time provided it's not damaged hardware. After that warranty goes, the system slows down becomes laggy as fuck and if you get any kind of unhandled exception, missing driver errors, blue screens, etc... and you don't pay their $200 - 300 yearly service, your fucked and that system is nearly bricked. The only other option would be to wipe the drive completely and to install a fresh copy of your OS of choice. I don't love apple, fuck apple. Don't even hand me an iPhone, I'll throw it back at you and tell you that's your first problem, it's an iPhone. I still currently use Windows as I just know it going back to the DOS 6.0 and Windows 3.1 days, but I'm close to jumping ship. I think I might pick up either Mint or if I'm experimental enough, Arch. The last good OS Windows had that wasn't full of B.S. was Windows 7. Windows 8 was probably one of the worst. Windows 10 is okay but still sucks compared to Windows 7 and XP. It's all of their data collection, telemetry b.s. that they've added to their OS. If you do go with Windows, make sure it's at least a Pro or Ultimate version so you at least have access to group policies along with Windows PowerShell. With them you can write your own scripts to declutter Windows, but you better know about the Windows Kernel, Driver Modules, the System Registry, etc... It's not easy but it can be done.
Gaming is literally the only reason I still dual boot these days.
Same, and I barely boot into windows anymore.
Have you tried it in Linux? I just got back into gaming and both games I installed (Helldivers 2 and Cuphead) have worked pretty normally.
@@northlandphoenix play league or fortnite on linux...you cant. any dev who hates linux (like now rockstar apparently) wont let you play rn
@@northlandphoenix I usually play Valorant with my friends. Riot's Vanguard relies on Windows stuff.
@@rariber aww hell nah not the spyware anticheat from edating game from RiotGames owned by chinese company called 10Cent
I agree with prime that slippery slope is real. In fact, i wish there was a term for the slippery slope fallacy fallacy. Its a fallacy where you over-generalize the slippery slope fallacy as a thought stopping cliche.
A true slippery slope fallacy is where you use the slippery slope concept instead of a reason as the key evidence for an argument where there is no other indication that things will escalate.
The fallacy fallacy, or the argument from fallacy
Yep. A real slippery slope fallacy is saying that allowing gay people to exist will lead to people being allowed to do horrible things to children. That's a real slippery slope fallacy. Not every use of the slippery slope is a fallacy, fallaciously using the slippery slope concept is a fallacy
bruv, slippery slope fallacy is just cause and effect that hasn't been justified. Once justified, then it either is deductively true, inductively true (meaning probability), or false altogether.
Pretty much every logical fallacy isn't actually a logical fallacy, as in, it doesn't violate logic. Most of these violate the consistency of generally held assumptions. A more appropriate name for them is "common principles of reason" or something like that
@@moussaadem7933they are fallacies when they are rhetoric masquerading as logic, a la "appeal to authority"
Inevitable, they want that data
It's the only way Microshaft makes money anymore. They pissed away most of their ip's and the only thing I like from them is .net and c#, both of which ironically give me total freedom on Linux 😂. I use Arch, btw...
My cousing is a normie deluxe premium, I wonder how to convince people like him.
So much for "ARM-only" and "opt-in not opt-out". Who takes bets about "everything is stored only locally"?
Start out with, “Hey, we’re just trying to help you”, then move to “Hey, we need to capture the data of people looking at CSAM and other criminals and report that to the authorities” then all of a sudden we’ll get a news report “The FBI was investigating a group of parents involved at a PTA meeting for domestic terrorism and is suing Microsoft for that information.” Then Microsoft will make a portal for the FBI to make it easy for the FBI to request everything about you and all your screenshots are going straight to an NSA server.
they changed it to be more secure so
It's from the same company that's shoving OneDrive down everyone's throat, so it's only a matter of time before those images get stored on OneDrive where Microsoft can data mine. It's actually quite clever when you think about it, because most people aren't going to know.
@@arthurwintersight7868 onedrive is uninstallable so who care and recall is a non issue
When microsoft says something, always add to it a suffix: "for now..."
To be fair, that's most companies approach - Get users then figure out how to monetize. That's fairly common unfortunately.
even prime is aldo doing it >
The best part: people get so used to getting free services - that are just made to capture people and destroy any business that is not fueled by venture capital - that they don't even give a chance to anything that actually has sensible business model. Then people get offended when it turns out you have to pay for the free service...
People told us this would happen… and they were laughed at
8:40 That's the thing. We cannot know for sure until someone (likely the ExplorerPatcher/Windhawk folks) actually reverse-engineers and debugs Explorer to figure out what's what.
Until then, all we know is that removing Recall via Windows's CBS/DISM now causes File Explorer to revert to the Win10 interface, when before it could run just fine without it.
At least we get back a bit of win10 lol jk it’s all trash
@@RYOkEkENYeah, I'm lucky nothing I do with my computer actually needs Windows.
Linux 4 life.
@@RYOkEkEN windows has always been trash. Now it's a dumpster fire
@@SahilP2648 - Or a dumpster full of trash and Microsoft finally threw a lit match in there.
Windows started flagging ExplorerPatcher as malware in the recent updates as well, so Microsoft is actively trying to stop that project from gaining anymore traction.
8:15 some federal, 3-letter, info-hungry agencies probably cut them a check for slipping this in
Next they will will be trying to do real-time Censoring while your using your own computer...
Let's stop pretending Microsoft got to be a default monopoly because they make good products
@@getl0styour ISP already does real time censoring and sending all your data straight to the NSA
The Steam Train is rolling...
It's already here partially.
Hype train is steaming!
Bazzite
Literally. Cause many will switch to linux with steamOS 😂
i think i've said this many times but there is something very respectable about being a vocal supporter of your "colleagues" in the youtube space, every time i see your reaction videos you always send love and positivity to other creators, whether big or small, i think it shows a lot of humility from you, knowing how big your persona is in the programming/tech part of youtube.
Moved to Linux a year ago. Couldn't be happier!
gonna be doing the same. lenovo thinkpad + linux. prob pop os.
Ah that's right, Microsoft's other OS. They are a big contributor to Linux you know!
@@username7763 Yet only 1% linux distros install spyware on your device. The only distro that is popular atm that installs an AI chatbot is Deepin. Also some rumors of Ubuntu spyware back in the day, 10-15yrs ago.
@@username7763Well and?
@@username7763 At least with Linux, it's open source. So, if the contributors get up to nefarious shiate, it can be found. Can you say the same for your beloved Windows?
It's funny hearing the comment about bonus-driven-development. The first time I heard about this idea was actually from a Microsoft long-time engineer; Raymond Chen. In his blog he'll point out terrible user-hostile things software does and guess that someone got a nice bonus for that. I believe he's always pointing out this with non-Microsoft software but the general idea applies to all.
Imagine when they monitize everything created by their AI. "Hey, you like what we made for you? Pay me!"
The great reset: "You will own nothing, and you'll be happy."
Windows 11 has 30% of the Windows version market share and on 5th of October it celebrated 3 years since its release. I would call that a failure.
They'll add it to 10 or force an upgrade eventually.
@@karakaaa3371 cant force an upgrade on computers that do not have sufficient HW for it. And i presume the most of the win10 computers are exactly those... older gen CPUs and motherboards without TPM enabled
But what they can do is make Windows boot to a blank blue screen that says "BUY A NEW COMPUTER". Wouldn't put it past 'em.
@@bitwize thats some s*it that would not fly even in USA, and they would get absolutely bodied by EU
Linux in all its desktop flavours only has a market share of 4.5%, Ubuntu has been around for 19 years, Linux Mint for 18 years, I’d call that an abject failure.
9:19 "Everyone says slippery slope is a fallacy"
It's a *logical* fallacy: It only means that the conclusion drawn is unsupported; It means it cannot stand alone as an argument, not that it can't be circumstantial evidence - and circumstantial evidence is often quite compelling, so much so that people have been sent to prison for life based entirely on it.
I used to think slippery slope was a logical fallacy but then every time I turned around, one of those "fallacies" was brought into existence exactly as the person making the argument claimed. I'm to the point now where I no longer accept the rebuttal of it being a fallacy and go, "Prove to me it can't happen and I'll agree with you. What is stopping someone from doing exactly as the slope implies?" Of course, slippery slope is no different than using exaggeration to find where an argument breaks - it helps as a thought experiment of a "worst case" scenario. But yeah, if your only response is "No one would ever do that," well, I have some bad news for you....
@@commentinglife6175 Survivorship bias. There are plenty of slippery slopes to hypothesise about, but only a fraction of those end up being true. Sure it can be useful for the sake of risk management, but it is fallacious to use it to support an argument without showing proper causal reasoning of it being a likely outcome. It is not sound for the same reason as suggesting you should not travel in a car because you will eventually end up in a crash- it is fishing for an outcome and rejecting all others.
@@tukib_ While I don't disagree with you, I often hear slippery slope EVEN IF I can show a logical connection from A to B to R. Of course, as your car crash example shows, it is also important not to overstate the likelihood of an event. (Not sure what fallacy that falls under, but that is also a very prevalent one out there today - especially in the news media.)
That brings up another issue; the "acceptability" of some fallacious arguments over others. It is a slippery slope to assume Microsoft is going to Micro-shaft over everything as they always do, but it is perfectly fine for governments/organizations to run ads saying if you use your phone while driving, you will die? I frankly see no difference in the logic of those two arguments - hence why I'm less forgiving of instantly discounting something simply because of "slippery slope fallacy" grounds.
@@commentinglife6175 The issue in both cases is the assumption: In the case of Microsoft the slippery slope is supported by historic cases where they've acted in exactly this manner, whilst the example of using a phone whilst driving is supported by accident statistics where being distracted was shown to be causal.
The slippery slope itself is not and cannot be an argument in itself; It stands as a call to engage curiosity, and to demonstrate with data that the assumption is reasonable; Why the burden of proof lies with the person making the claim.
Off on a tangent, but I've not seen these adverts suggesting I'll die if I use my phone: The suggestion I've always seen is that I might kill someone else, such as other road users or my passengers...
A necessary point to make, I think, is that fallacies are only fallacies when they're _wrong._ Appeal to authority, for example, is only a fallacy when the authority your appealing to is not an authority in the domain you're arguing about, or can't/won't/doesn't answer that specific question and supporting evidence. The genetic fallacy is only wrong if it's the _entire_ reason you dismiss an argument, no further thought needed -- it can still be supporting evidence. Begging the question is wrong only if the assumption you're making is wrong or weak.
I just googled to see people reactions from a week ago and boy, ...
* "Its NPU only, it will not be on other systems". Well, its on every W11 system with that update.
* "But it will not work without a NPU" ... need to explain that LLMs will work on iGPU or dGPU, CPU or NPUs. And that NPUs are only more optimized, for better power saving/performance, like you normally do not render a game on a CPU, but you CAN.
* "But you can disable it and live with the old W10 explorer"... Until MS removed the old W10 explorer from W11. Just like they did in the past with several other features, where people disabled the "new stuff", and relied on the old implementations but when people started to do this too much, MS strangely removed those specific oldies, nothing else, just those 😉
* "But its not enabled / active for non-NPU" ... until MS pushes a update that auto enables it for all.
* "But you can disabled it" ... until MS pushes another update that enables it without you realizing, like they did so many times with some edge features (if you use edge, always, ALWAYS check your setting after a update as some become "by accident" active again, especially privacy/$$$).
* "But its just more work, just disable it every time"... until MS starts to make it impossible to disable like they did with Updates where you had multiple services backing each other up, so re-enable updates (after a slight delay so you do not notice it). Out of security for you, ofcourse!
There is a lot of crap that is invasive but we never reached a point, where you actually have something spying by taking screenshots of your PC, OCRing the content and then saving this.
I can not see this feature being allowed in any corporates office or secure settings. So are they going to pull a Windows Server, where specific junk is not present in specific OEM versions of Windows (doubt it, because people will pirate the hell out of that Version). Its amazing to see how MS keeps pushing this forwards knowing how much a issue this is for companies.
So much Internet Explorer deja-vu feeling with these changes. MS really never learns ... And no, Linux is in my eyes still not a alternative to replace Windows for the biggest users groups. It just needs more money into it, more user friendliness, less "everybody their own thing"... But that is a different discussion we have had for the last 20 years. I only see a company like Valve pulling off a actual DESKTOP OS alternative to MS, with their deep pockets. But they are only interested in game sales, not desktop general, nor as corporate OS.
Making something "user friendly" is not the difficulty. Microsoft sells so much because Windows is preinstalled on so many computers. As a result, the only OS most people know how to use is Windows, so companies have to use Windows. Even just installing basic software on Windows is a massive headache with great potential for security failures (for example, Google decides that the top result for installing some software should be a virus... not that that could ever happen...). Compare that to Linux, with most distros containing a pre-installed app store that will satisfy all of a user's needs. If we choose 1 (freedom-respecting, user-friendly) distro to pre-install on everything, then Linux will become dominant over enough time.
@@headpenguin8758 Installing apps is all fine and dandy until that one dependency is out of date or isn't on your package manager repo... now you have to build it and find its been abandoned for many years but oops there is no alternatives so now you have to build it regardless... huh readme instructions didnt work for building it... now there are dependency issues for building this project too... you installed the deps but the header files/API is different from what the code uses... now you have to fix the code... at this point you give up and use windows where an actual application for what you need is available as a binary to download... because windows devs do not have "binaryphobia" and dont have to worry about building for one libc version and distro when it might not work on others cause there is only one windows... the fragmentation nature of GNU Linux distros is detriment to everyone...
Some of us are already using Linux. The only reason it's not an alternative is because some developers actively sabotage compatibility. Stop doing business with those guys.
The Linux community hates money, unification, and forced user friendliness.
This is not a dig at the Linux community, either. I'm an avid Linux user. I've had to dig through kernel source code to fix driver issues with kernel command line arguments. I've used Arch before I got tired of constant breaking changes. I am a diehard fan of the way Linux does things.
That said, the community has a general revulsion for user friendliness on a technical level. Ask the Linux neckbeards about their opinion about SystemD and you'll see. There's a lot of hate for it because it goes against the Linux philosophy of self-contained services and does everything a user needs from an init system. I also have a love/hate relationship with SystemD... as a person who has wrote their own init system.
Users also hate gnome, open desktop, and various other projects whenever projects start to try to sway protocols and norms in favor of usability. Because Linux users by and large prefer flexibility, but this makes it harder to create a cohesive ecosystem... Another place where this was especially apparent was in the debate about client-side versus server-side decorations for Wayland compositors.
@@headpenguin8758 It's not hard to install software on Windows.
Companies choose to use Windows.
This is absolutely terrifying and I'm glad i made the full switch to Linux about a year ago.
P.S. I was kind of a dick to you a while back Prime, my bad, that wasn't cool.
lol
I've used windows for 14 years, and after they announced recall I said "yeah, time for linux" and installed linux mint on my pc. I'll not say it was painless, but, it was definitely worth it. I had experiences with linux before, but I never had a big reason to change the main OS before.
Many people would call it "less painful". All new OSs cause some pain of having to change what you are used to.
@@kensmith5694 no doubt about it
I had a helluva time w/ Ubuntu until 10+ years ago and in principle I want to try it again but 3 years of being bitten makes it something to procrastinate on.
@@NotSoMuchFrankly I suggest Linux Mint. It is easier for Windows folks to pick up
Are you a Dev? Hows the experience with Mint
I moved to Linux full time two years ago when Proton became good enough to play all the games i play on a regular basis. I cant imagine ever going back.
its going to be like every other feature that is a privacy nightmare. They make it mandatory, then they give you an option to turn it off but this option only works for enterprise edition(govt and corpo), for the the average consumer this option will just give a false sense of security since it is ignored on non enterprise editions.
Trust me bro is corporate speak for "Ha haha, why would you trust a corporation?"
They will syphon every possible dollar to recoup their investments into AI hardware. They sunk in billions into Nvidia and OpenAI alone
Microsoft has a long history with generic product names: Mediaplayer, SQL Server, Office, and of course Windows! They didn't invent to concept of GUIs or Windows.
Gaming on Linux got so much better since the release of the Steamdeck. Currently the main problem are games running root level anticheat SW, which should not be ever allowed in any OS anyway. For the last 6 months I'm using Nobara (Fedora based distro focused on gaming created by a maintainer of Proton-GE) and I'm really happy with it. It has some issues, but those are things that will get eventually fixed and more people using it just speeds the process.
Well if you install Chinese or Saudi Arabian backdoors on your pc, Microsoft recall is most likely the smallest issue.
When Recall was first rolled out cleverer people than me installed it and had it working on "normal" PCs without a NPU.
Recall *never* needed an NPU, but requiring one is a great way to drive hardware sales.
03:00 Embrace, extend, extinguish.
Damn, that's good. Perfectly encapsulates it. 👍
Embrace extend extinguish was for stealing others' work in order to monopolize. The new memo is a more complex "5 Stages of the Path": 1. Default OFF, 2. Default ON, 3. Optionally Removable, 4. Non-removable optional opt-out, 5. Mandatory. Calling this "mandatory" or stage 5 is a bit premature, we're not there yet actually.
Been running an experiment with my old desktop (9700k,2080) running linux and Proton for the past couple of months, and I'm pleasantly surprised with just how many games run well now. Heck, Metaphor ran day-one, out-of-the-box, without any significant issues. I'm pretty well convinced at this point that my next gaming system (which I'm planning on building within the next year) will *not* have a Windows installation at all.
Two words: Recall Recall.
I like your take on bonus-driven development. It presumes incompetence instead of malice, and assuming incompetence is usually the rational assumption.
The term would be a tech oligarchy.
cyber aristocracy
I call it a reason to kiss
The correct term would be neo-liberal capitalism.
I know as soon as I say this, I'm probably going to get a lot of backlashes for it. I've seen it happen at a rate of about 90% by now as it is expected. Hmm; does Revelation 13 ring a bell?
Prime is spot on about 'bonus driven development'. I work at Microsoft AI (not in copilot) and this is true - allied products are incentivized to drive copilot growth.
The video mentions that the requirement is to leave recall installed, then disable it later. That makes me think of a RedHat Linux issue that was discovered a couple major releases back. If IPV6 isn't used in an enterprise, prior to RHEL6.4 or something, we could disable IPV6 completely, by an entry in grub, if my memory is correct, but after 6.4, systems would fail to boot if IPV6 was disabled using that method. It had to be allowed to load with the OS and we had to disable it in components where we didn't want it to be active. So having Recall required to be installed isn't that surprising. It's just an issue that it has to exist at all.
Personally, it existing isn’t the problem, it being baked into the operating system and not being per-user installed
Science fiction and military fiction authors would be screwed. You have no idea just how insane-sounding our search histories are...
LLMs need data.
Ai needs big data.
I wonder where they will get all the data they need to have the best Ai?
From your computer. I wonder howbstealing confidential and sensitive information from companies, banks, governments and private citizens for personal profit fairs.
Legally, if my data isngoing to make your Ai great... I need royalties from that as well. So microsoft will end up having to pay alot of people. Moneh for using their data
I wonder how reliable this AI will be at spitting out the real name, address, and other personal information that's associated with the username of someone who got on your nerves. It's well known that AI developers try to lock this down (as Microsoft certainly will), but clever queries can usually get around that.
Microsoft is on the AI hype train in a big way. They need billions of PC screenshots with contextual information (what was clicked, what was typed in, what was on the screen etc...) to train an AI model to use windows, and to use all apps that all users might have installed. There is no way to believe they aren't going to be uploading and capturing this data for their own use.
Steam has already brought gaming to Linux. Proton and wine are amazing. It has gotten so good and is just as much an out of box experience windows is
Yeah, in 2024 it's tough to beat when it comes to ease of use.
I stopped using Windows when Windows 8 was released and a few weeks ago I helped my brother set up his Windows 11 PC. I was so annoyed by so many unnecessary things - online login, all the things you need to deactivate, etc.
A real frustrating experience if you're used to Windows 7 and the previous versions. Linux and MacOS are now less frustrating.
99% of normies play games like Valorant with kernel level anticheat which can't be run under Linux. Even Roblox pulled Linux support and is looking into kernel level anticheat itself so not even the kids could game on Linux in a year or two.
@@theairaccumulator7144 people who install rootkits on their PC don't give a shit about windows recall. I don't care what people game on. I just think since it's 2024 people need to stop thinking Linux gaming is still like it was in 2010
Stop lying. Linux is abysmal to use and utterly counterintuitive.
If it wasn’t then nobody would be using windows. Nothing Valve can do will change that Linux is cancer.
Your cope doesn’t change reality.
@@ev3rybodygets177 It's a good thing stupid people won't pollute Linux. Yeah. People who activelly plays rootkit based games are stupid monkeys.
Moved to Linux half a year ago, and instead of being more and more tempted to come back to Windows, it's less and less as time goes on
Three years, and now I wouldn't even want to run Windows on a second machine.
@@arthurwintersight7868
I had the privilege to have a RaspberryPi be my first own computer, so I learnt how to use computers in general through Linux, not through Window$. And I did run Win10 on my laptop when I got it, simply because that was what was on there and I wasn't experienced enough yet to replace it. And the time flies, now I've been using mainly Linux for about seven years (Why does the time need to fly so fast 😭) and when I was, for school, forced to interact with Win11 it was horrible, as if it smelled that I like to have full control over my computer and actively put up small barriers just for me. And I'm glad that my school's only rule for the PCs about the OS on it is "Don't remove Window$", so installing Linux next to Window$ is allowed. And 99.999% of the time I can do everything I need on Linux, only every once in a while I have to go into Window$ for the Safe Exam Browser (which for some reason has no Linux version?).
Thanks Microsoft! Very cool
Lol.
Glad I use Mac more than Windows. Not saying it’s much better but I do know it’s not taking screen shots every few minutes.
Bigger question is how is this not overreach and a breach of privacy.
No doubt the next tool, will be to allow sys admins access to this as a way of selling work from home or just simply monitor your staff even closer.
Yeah, 10 was already going to be my last Windows for non-gaming.
You are already on Linux for gaming? Nice ❤
@@ThePlayerOfGames you slow buddy? Not only is Linux trash for gaming, but he said he would use it for non-gaming. You are a clown bud.
You're willing to deal with this BS for a couple games?
It's the last one I'll use even for gaming.
If this is an ad, this ad needs to be on billboards everywhere
The solution is simple: *STOP USING IT!*
Moved to Firefox from Chrome last month after seeing Google aggressively pushing Gemini and anti-adblock tech via "manifest v3: we really care about you" (they don't), and after this video I'm cooking an Arch Linux USB. Bless Valve for having my favorite games work flawlessly on Linux.
Oh hey look, it's the Reddit post i created! Neat
Niiiiiiiiiice🎉
Gaming on Linux is already figured out. Lutris + Wine + Proton and I can run every out of ~30 games that I play PERFECTLY - even with mods and older savegames. I moved permanently to Void Linux 4 months ago and was pretty easy to set up and install as I'm a developer already.
And just when I was considering to move back.
There are things that unfortunately still don't work on Linux, and I've been thinking "maybe I'll just be fine with WSL"
But it's because of the very fact that Windows 11 is a giant spyware and Windows 10 is nearing end of life that I still don't.
If Windows doesn't start respecting their users again, then I'm never going back ever again.
13:35 the moment i realize your recommended (and of those the watched) are practically the same as mine :D
it looks like im probably gonna switch to linux
In-app analytics are and have been a thing, but this is a whole other level.
but people will just think... I've got nothing to hide, it's fine
Always questioned the logic of those people… Oh so you’re wanting to hand over your data? Hand me your credit cards then. No? Huh, a moment prior you said you didn’t care.
But what they don't realise is they can no longer do online banking on that computer and can no longer make purchases because the spyware will record everything they type in
The Problem is, even if this is opt out, normal everyday people won't even know about it. And even if they know, they won't understand the consequences of it. And you can't blame them for it. Most people just buy the thing that the guy at the local computer store recommended for them. They just want something working!! Microsoft can just do everything they want, cause people don't have the time, nor the know how to think about these things!
I can't help but think if Total Recall with the name of this feature.
Actually Valve did pretty much everything they could already, Steam nowadays is hella compatible with ProtonDB and is very easy to setup in any distro (pretty much does it for you) the games that don't work on linux are the ones dependent on anticheat software, so is up to the players to start using linux and to pressure publishers to enable AC support for these games.
9:29 We have multiple decades of Microsoft doing this kind of shit. They don't deserve any benefit of the doubt.
CTT is gonna be psyched that he’s on prime’s channel! (I’ve heard him mention prime a few times.)
Bro, microsoft literally just funded the restart of a nuclear plant. they *absolutely* plan to take in a bunch of data in the next year or two.
why would MS need a literal nuclear power plant for a data center otherwise?
OK, and? Who cares. Nuclear power is good. There are worse things they could have funded...
@@luckytanuki5449 this video isn't about nuclear power...
@@vhdlx EXACTLY, so why are u bringing it up lil bro.
@@luckytanuki5449 must have a really really really small brain.
@@vhdlx Ah yes. Resort to insults instead of trying to explain your very nonsensical point. Can see how much your brain developed since you were born.
Remember how everybody was clamoring for more surveillance opportunities in their software? I know I was. It was already PRETTY good with all the microphones and cameras and IoT but it still wasn't keeping an actual real time log of every single thing I did on my computer, finally someone stepped up. Thank you Microsoft! 🥰
The feature is a mandatory dependency for the new explorer.exe so removing it breaks the desktop, taskbar and file explorer. So many birds with one stone.
YOUR LIFE INFORMATION IS THE NEW OIL, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT
Getting rid of Windows RIP
I think one other reason they are enforcing it is that they are running out of new data to train their A.I. models. They will just gobble up everything, including user data to train models to replace companie’s workers.
I think you will find it's more than that, they will eventually be wanting to do real-time censoring of what you type into your computer...
I already dual boot Linux. I really love it. I'm still learning it, but if I could play more of my games on there, I would drob windows like a bad habit.
18 months ago I finally switched from windows 7 to Linux (manjaro with xfce) full time for my last remaining windows device my desktop gaming pc. I've not looked back since, zero regrets.
Bonus-driven development is the most sensible explanation I've heard so far.
Makes things easier, now I don't even need to dual boot.
Please please, Microsoft, keep making your OS worse. I jus want more native game releases for Linux, as well full anti cheat support on Linux.
Not moving to win11 and getting everyone I know to switch to Linux
finally this guy do a video about something that isn't making me anxious about my future
why not just have someone stand behind you while you work
Yes, this is the goal. That person is called Big Brother. Perhaps you've heard of him?
Just another unnecessary mid level manager
KPI driven development. Bonus driven development. I love all these takes.😂 I see these s the results of managers not understanding statical biases and the futility of control.
I thought this computer was mine.
It's a dumb-terminal for the cloud these days. Cannot have the masses walking around with their own personal computers, who know what they might do with them.
Time to rename This computer to Their computer
@@username7763 And that's none of their fucking business!
A tip: Go with OpenSUSE. During installation it can detect Windows if that thing is installed on your machine and adds Windows into the bootloader auto. Makes it very easy to dual boot.
literally every distro does that
Also OpenSUSE has YasT, very similar to Windows’s Settings and can do a lot more, all in one place. Also allows the user to search for packages, install and uninstall, all in a GUI. As far as I know only OpenSUSE does this.
@@F_Around_and_find_out What you describe is part of many more user friendly and maybe also a bit more bloated distros. E.g. Ubuntu has the Snap App Store where you can download apps and small packages in a GUI like an app store
@@F_Around_and_find_outUbuntu, Manjaro and Fedora all have those features, and have had them for a long time now, for sure. Probably many others as well.
Google killing Chrome with manifest V3. Microsoft killing Windows with Recall.
Its good time to be a Linux/Firefox user.
You need an NPU for recall to work though
@@trollwarlord2967 I put WIN11 on a 13-year-old laptop. A 2000 series CPU. Recall was automatically installed and running on it when 24h2 released. "requires an NPU" my foot.
@@Sterling_Silver04 what i still dont have recall on my pc though its on 24h2
@@trollwarlord2967 Did you run the powershell/CMD command to identify it directly? Recall is completely hidden otherwise, but still very much active.
@@Sterling_Silver04 thats really weird though if its hidden and active then its a completely useless feature for users
Slippery Slope is only a fallacy if you confuse it with a guarantee. Sure, it's POSSIBLE that Microsoft won't abuse Recall now that it exists, but that doesn't mean there isn't a high chance that they will. A slippery slope is a statistically sound claim when applied to most of human nature barring concrete deterrents.