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Tyler IS the name of the narrator, or rather the narrator is the alternate personality of Tyler, as Tyler has documentation. License. Papers. The narrator does not. No name. No identity. The twist gets twistier every time you watch this movie. I was impressed they did what sixth sense pretended to do by telling you the twist up-front in a way you won't get it until it's revealed near the end, but then watch again and you discover, it's not just Brad Pitt's character that is a figment of his imagination, but also Marla Singer. Watch again and... OMG! Bob too! Even paper street doesn't exist. The term paper street is in reference to city plans in which the location is just an idea that exists only on paper, and not in the physical world. Every major character is just another persona from the narrator's fractured mind, and it's messed up, and tragic, and clever, and beautiful, and sick, all at once
Seen this when it first came out but a little later on back in 2000 a few months after release what people pointed out for the "genius" of the movie is the car scene. because the Dialogue has to work in 3 ways Edward Norton -> Brad Pitt Brad Pitt -> Edward Norton AND Edward Norton -> Project mayhem members in the back seat All 3 conversations are happening at the same time, and if you remove all of Brad Pitts dialogue it works out to Edward Norton asking rhetorical questions to the guys in the back seat daring them to grab the wheel asking them essentially "Why are you here" "ILL TELL YOU WHY!!!".
Rob and Bryce need to start a drinking game......they take a shot every time Zuff says "what is going on?" or "who is that?" or "where did he come from?" or "what's happening?" They would both be drunk within 15 minutes. lol
You want a good drinking game watch "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" and drink everytime they swear. Me and 3 friends drank 2 30 packs. It was fun time.
@@edittheworld-ct5yubest actual drinking game is Withnail and I'. You have to copy everything they drink throughout the film, but that does mean downing a can of lighter fluid(don't do that!😂) And a £500 bottle of wine(do that) amongst all the rest!😁
Okay, I gotta finally say it. One of my FAVORITE things is when Rob already knows what’s happening and basically winks at the camera Jim-on-the-office-style 😂😂😂😂
This was an excellent pick Bryce a cult classic and a masterpiece to me also robs face when Bryce was putting the pieces together was amazing loved the reaction
Or was he sleep walkingb doing those jobs and eventually all blended together? It seemed more like Brad Pitt didn't appear until that change happened & he started hallucinating.
This is definitely a film that needs multiple watches to truly understand the themes of anti-capitalism, toxic masculinity, the lie of the American dream, and learning to let go.
@@spacemonkeyentertainment6413 well its for sure taking the piss out of capitalism/consumerism and learning to stop giving such a fk about everything not sure about the other two things he pointed out but what big conclusion have u come to if u think its about none of the above when the author has pointed out those are some of the main points?
@@valto5477 Consumerism yes, capitalism no. And while those are linked to an extent, the destinction is important, because somehow people talk about it like the movie promotes anarchy/nihilism and somehow even communism, when Pitts character is the defacto villain of the story. Neither extreme is shown in a positive light, yet people run with it, imo preventing them to see the search for meaning among other things. Now, "toxic masculinity" is a vapid term anyway, because it can be filled with anything a man does that one disapproves of, but it also comes from a simplistic view of the world, that i think Palahniuk would disapprove of. He himself pointed out that it was partly about "male empowerment" in the sense that it is about finding purpose and dealing with life, a message completely lost on people who think along the lines of "men bad, fighting bad". And lastly, Palahniuk isn't exactly the most exact writer, by which i mean he sometimes cares more about the shock value and just going "look at this mess, how did we get here" than having a real lesson that he wants to hammer home. The thought provoking is more important than the teaching so to speak. So i think it's fair to say that he doesn't really offer that many answers to the questions he points out himself.
It’s way deeper than that. The narrators job is played for laughs but it’s the most cruel, dehumanising job anyone could imagine. That’s why he can’t sleep. Tyler is his rage Marla is his guilt Bob is his compassion You could go much deeper, but it’s quite the rabbit hole, and a solid reason why this is probably one of greatest movies of all time.
@@Derpng Respectfully disagree: Zuff is whimsical and fun and one of the reasons a lot of us come back. Not everyone reacts to things the same, otherwise reaction channels wouldn't be so popular. If I wanted everyone to think and consume media just like me, the world would be very boring.
If you guys haven't seen American History X, I can't recommend it enough. Not only is it intense and relevant, but you'll also get to see Norton in the role of a lifetime, complete with shaved head.
*Every guy who gets a personal trainer.* Personal trainer: “So what are your goals?” Guy: “Brad Pitt in fight club.” Personal trainer: “You’re not Brad Pitt so let’s go for something more realistic.”
The first time Zack Braff met Arnold Schwarzenegger, it was in a gym, and Arnold asked him "What are your workout goals?". Zach said in that moment, he forgot all the answers he'd come up with, and just said "Did you see Fight Club?" Arnold smiled and said "Brad's abs? That's all diet. Eat a lot of carrots."
ed norton is such a good actor. other roles of his that stick out to me are the movie primal fear and of course american history x. highly recommend both of those.
I watched fight club while on heavy painkillers after a surgery. Definitely an out of body experience with the twist at the end. Also, movie suggestions if none of y’all have seen them: The Prestige or Molly’s Game
If you want an even bigger plot twist: Marla is also an alternate personality of the main character. He genuinely has testicular cancer and he's unable to deal with this reality. This is why he goes to support groups but is in denial. Tyler is his need to rebel against his reality by adopting a macho hypermasculine persona, who wants to burn everything down. Marla is his instinct to accept his new feminised reality and let go. He hates that part of himself. Bob with his b*tchtits is also a manifestation of his fear of emasculation. At the end he reaches out to Marla after destroying Tyler, while the old world collapses around him and he accepts his more integrated self. The whole thing is in his head! Clue: "paper street" is the address of the house. Thats the term used by city planners to describe a street that is mapped but hasn't been built yet.
is this confirmed or just a fan theory? I could definitely believe those characters symbolize those things you mentioned, but wouldn't say they're definite manifestations that live in his head. Also, I never read the book, so if that's confirmed or alluded to in there, i wouldn't know lol
@@lavenderllamamusic it's a theory I heard but when I've watched it since it feels like it holds together. Nobody speaks to Marla except the main character. I'm not sure what the authors intentions were but it definitely doesn't seem to me to be "Tyler Durden is the answer to men's feelings of alienation" which seems to be a lot of people's takeaway.
@@andrewmarkland4231 What about the last scene where one of the cultists brought Marla to Ed's character? Do you think that was real narrator's body with Marla in it and narrator/Tyler scene was imaginary? Or is whole "imaginary Marla" also a trick with final reveal at the end? That said I like your (or any other) and mainstream interpretations. Makes you see this film differently each time.
The "I havent been fucked like that since grade school" line was messed up for a couple reasons. Helena Bonham-Carter didnt know how controversial the line would be here in the US because in the UK "grade school" is a higher level for teens whereas in the US it's preteens. She was mortified when she found out later.
I find it interesting watching Gen Z men react to this movie with a lot of confusion…and not seemingly connecting to it. This movie was THE thing for Gen X men in the late 90s. Definitely a generational and a “had to be there” kind of situation. It was a different time.
I'm a millennial and was 18 when this movie came out. What I find interesting is that the character of Tyler Durden is reprehensible and toxic, which is clearly the director's vision, and which these young men recognized, while a strange subset of the original audience took this movie as a foundational work in the "Mens' Rights" movement. It's a movie about a dissatisfied man's descent into villainy, but too many of the Gen Xers thought he was heroic, and to be emulated. I remember that when I saw it when it came out, it resonated with me in re: the anti-capitalist, anti-consumer themes, but, like these guys, not vibing with that turning into violence and destruction. "You are not [what you buy]" is an important lesson, but it was directed into something nonsensical and debased.
I find it more interessting that the Gen X apparently more often misuderstod the actual intention + message of the movie(and book, but to be fair it's more obvious in the book) than later generations.
@@samgradyfilm The 90s was such a decade of excess/success that "boredom at an office job" became kind of a proto-meme. Fight Club, Office Space...it was the height of popularity for Dilbert too.
As "Jack" is beating himself up in his bosses' office... "for some reason I thought of my first fight.... with Tyler." Then you see the reveal later that he was beating himself up in the parking lot. Yeah, "Jack" kills Tyler by proving that he has control of his own mind when he pulls the trigger to the gun. Basically faking him out that he shot himself, even though he knew what he was doing.
When I rewatched the movie, I payed close attention to when tyler and the narrator were interacting with other people. Like when tyler is selling soap (the narrator is silent, and tyler is talking)
Love this pick, Bryce! In the book, Ed Norton's character name is revealed to be Jack, like the stories he was reading, but I always assumed it was a pseudonym. This was the first book that absolutely captivated me and changed my perspective on life. Palahniuk is amazing.
No, even in the book, the narrator is never named. He only refers to himself as Jack ("I am Jack's complete lack of surprise") in reference to the Reader's Digest article ("I am Jack's colon").
I watched this so many times when it 1st came out plus Brad Pitt ain’t bad to look at!!!! I have read the book too and it’s just as good. Good job Bryce catching the flashes. I didn’t see them until I watched it a second time.
Zuff: "nothing in this makes sense." Gen X begs to differ, lol it was fun watching Bryce verbalize what he clocked from the beginning when he saw the glitch in the Matrix. "Is Tyler a real person?? I've been thinking this the whole time." Love watching people get it.
A lot of the clues are wayyyy too obvious. But when I first saw this movie, I was drunk, so I missed tham all. The thing that gave it away for me, was the car crash. The narrator crawls out of the drivers' side, and Tyler gets out of the passenger side. It was only then that I started thinking back to the more obvious giveaways. I'd ignored them cus they were too obvious, and I'd been told there was a twist. I wasn't expecting the movie to just give the twist away. I made my own copy for when I watch with someone who hasn't seen it. I cut out the "....could you wake up as a different person" scene, the ".....sometimes tyler spoke for me" scene, the "...this conversation is over" scene and a few others. But, honestly, I kinda regret it. I think part of the genius is that it was so in-your-face the whole time. And every time the movie gives away its own twist, something happens immediately after, to distract you. So maybe it's not so bad that it's so obvious. Cus if you still don't spot it, you're kinda a participant in the movie.
Who would think a movie called Fight Club would have a line like "Being there, pressed against his tits, ready to cry. This was my vacation...and she ruined everything."
If guy s have seen the Harry Potter movies? Marla singer, played by Helena Bonham Carter. She played Belatrix LaStrange. And was Married to Tim Burton. Also, if you remember in the movie he did go see a doctor. He suffered from Narcolepsy. And the doctor told him to go to testicular cancer meetings. The untreated Narcolepsy led to him creating a split personality.
In retrospect I should not have been allowed to watch this when it came out... I was like 12. Everyone in my school quoted it all the time. It holds up pretty well I think.
Book ending was way more ambiguous, and bleak. He blacks out, wakes up in a hospital, and for a second he thinks he's dead Then he finds out the hospital employees are members too, and they're waiting for Tyler to come back In other words: people that are supposed to help you are the ones hurting you
THEORY! Bob isn’t real either.. hear me outtttt.. what if he’s another figment that represents the literal polar opposite of the strong and powerful Tyler.. he is weak, “pathetic” and not masculine or powerful at all .. I think when Bob dies, it represents the narrator’s “weakness” dying inside of him..which is coincidentally when Tyler starts to become completely unhinged …idk😅 just a thought
This was absolutely wild in theaters in ‘99… cone to think of it, 99 was a great year for movies. Blair Witch Project, Sixth Sense, The South Park movie, American Beauty, The Matrix, Magnolia, Virgin Suicides… sheesh. Great reaction dudes!
so watching your reaction i just noticed that when brad pitt is talking to fight club and says "you'd all be millionaires and movie gods and rock stars" he is looking at jared leto, a millionaire actor and rockstar lol
When I saw this in the theatres with my mate, we thought it would be just a testosterone fuelled fighting film. We were totally blindsided by the twist.
i watched this when i was around 15yo and, needless to say, my (still-in-development) mind got blown. i didn't even know there was a plot twist when i watched it so i was freaking out! i was instantly a fan of david fincher and needed to watch everything he made. throughout the years film bros and anti-filmbros kinda soured my view on this movie, sadly. i never stopped believing it as an amazing movie but i guess i forgot how masterful it is, and your reaction just reminded of that! even if i have other fincher movies i prefer, like Gone Girl, The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo and Se7en, i still rate it as top tier so thank you! good reaction!
One thing I love about this movie, I heard that the line, "I haven't been fucked like that since grade school" was originally "I can't wait to have your abortion" or something along those lines. Fox made them change the line since they don't believe in abortion. So they went ahead and made the line even worse lol
I always love when Rob knows the end... cracks me up lol. I saw this in theaters and had no idea what to expect. I figured it was just another artistic/dark/eccentric movie that was happening a lot during the 90s (re:Pulp Fiction). So when all was revealed, I actually thought Tyler was still messing with him, like a puppet master/cult leader type. It wasn't until Ed Norton's character was physically shown talking to no one at the hotel that it all clicked for me... and even then it took me a minute lol. My boyfriend at the time said he knew something was off, but did not expect a twist like that. He loved it, and went to see it again that same weekend. Became an all time favorite among a lot of my friends at the time.
There's also a really disgusting detail in the fridge that's a nod to the book. See that gross bag of unmentionables? Marla's mom asked her to store her collagen for her for injections, and Tyler stole it to make soap.
Notice how the camera shook when he hosed the priest? That's cause the camera guy was laughing so hard. If you really listen, you can actually hear it.
How people understand and appreciate Fight Club but not Sucker Punch (both 2 of my favorite films) when they're 2 peas of the exact same pod thematically will never cease to amaze me
Tyler is not the only figment of the narrator's imagination, Bob also is a figment he doesn't interact with anyone other than the narrator or Tyler, Marla might be a figment but that's less of a solid theory, and all of project mayem would be a figment
It's been a long time since i watched fight club for the first time, but i went in blind without any hint of the twist. It surprised me on the first watch
This is the craziest movie I have ever seen. Definitely worrying to me if men actually aspire to be Tyler. Toxic masculinity is NOT an admirable trait.
someone spoiled this movie for me as a joke when i told them i hadnt watched it, tht upset me so much tht i could never bring myself to watch it. so i watched this with u for the first time coz i knew i was not going to do it on my own, so thank u for reacting to it i guess .lol.
Really love yalls reactions! But i would love you guys to react to more black classic movies i noticed the only one you guys have done is friday and white chicks. Which i really enjoyed would love to see more of that if you guys have time!!❤
If you've never seen the Rocky Horror Picture Show, Meatloaf (Bob) plays Eddie. Also, this is one of the best book to film adaptations I have ever seen.
We need another movie from Tyler's point of view like how he learned how to make all that stuff and what he's doing off screen, we see the end results but never see how he did it all, and just being by the narrator's age this was before the internet that Tyler learned how to make that stuff, i don't care how mental you are you don't just learn how to make soap and dynamite
its sad that people dont get messages of this movie and focus on unimportant stuff. everything tyler said has deeper meaning about life styles or today's society.
My interpretation of the ending, and which might be the most common among fans, is that the narrator made Tyler believe he's gonna shoot himself in the head. Maybe he really intended to really do that BUT, either deliberately or accidently, he shot the side of his mouth/jaw (I know that sometimes happens when people try to commit suicide in real life) but because Tyler believed it was a fatal shot to the brain, that part of his personality died. In other words, Tyler basicly turned himself off because he thought he died but the narrator stayed alive because the wound is far from being fatal. So it's not Tyler remained in the end, it's the narrator. He just acted like he's Tyler to the other club members to get rid of them but he was polite and apologetic towards Marla. I know it's still a far fetched scenario that he can stand up and talk with such a wound in his face but remember he's the founding member of the fight club and he is really really used to pain and stuff and it made him tougher than anybody could be according to movie's lore. It's not still very plausible but you can suspend your desbelief considering these aspects. Also, we don't know how long he could continue standing after the ending, maybe he was enduring the pain but he collapsed after a few seconds due to blood loss or whatever. Didn't seem like it but it's pretty possible.
No, the meaning of the shot is symbolic. By shooting himself, the protagonist defeats his shadow; he shows that he's the one in control, that he can shut down Tyler if he wants. With that shot he "metaphorically" kills Tyler. It doesn't make sense that the whole situation is resolved just by the fact that the narrator "got lucky" because Tyler accidentally thought that the shot was fatal, it's also very anticlimactic. Even more, in the book (spoiler ahead) the narrator kills himself and Tyler with that shot.
@@mylonelysundayyour interpretation is 100% correct, but the narrator doesn’t kill himself in the book. The book ends with him in hospital, and realising the staff are all Space Monkeys.
Tyler appears 5 times before the meeting on the airplane, and they wanted him to have a psa before the movie but the studio wouldn't green light that and they also couldn't get him flashing on the fox logo
Saw this in the theater, didn't know going in, was blown away, also saw the D. I will say when it first came out there was a segment of the movie going audience who...lets just say took the wrong notes from the film. They were essentially stoked to get in on the cult. I think as time has gone by it is clearer how, yes, some of what "Tyler" was saying seems to have echoes of truth. But that's how it is with all cults. And this one played on masculinity in a way we both now can see as more obvious AND could just as easily happen again *coughAndrewTatecough*.
I showed this to my students last semester as part of a lesson on responding to film criticism. When I finally got around to reading my teaching evaluations, I laughed my ass off at how many comments I got about it. They ranged from "that was the best movie I've ever seen," to "that movie was horrible and is something I would never normally watch AND will NEVER watch again,".
lmao jared leto is in this movie for all of 30 seconds. and he gets what he deserves for his attempt at the joker in suicide squad 🤣 It's a genuine shame that so many (primarily guys) completely fail to understand that this movie is *satirizing* toxic masculinity. when this movie came out I had idiot friends going "oh let's start a fight club, tyler durden's awesome", and i was like "are you fucking kidding me?"
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Tyler IS the name of the narrator, or rather the narrator is the alternate personality of Tyler, as Tyler has documentation. License. Papers. The narrator does not. No name. No identity. The twist gets twistier every time you watch this movie. I was impressed they did what sixth sense pretended to do by telling you the twist up-front in a way you won't get it until it's revealed near the end, but then watch again and you discover, it's not just Brad Pitt's character that is a figment of his imagination, but also Marla Singer. Watch again and... OMG! Bob too! Even paper street doesn't exist. The term paper street is in reference to city plans in which the location is just an idea that exists only on paper, and not in the physical world.
Every major character is just another persona from the narrator's fractured mind, and it's messed up, and tragic, and clever, and beautiful, and sick, all at once
My favorite writer 😅
notice Brad Pitt has a buzz cut like his transforming in Adrew Tate.
Seen this when it first came out but a little later on back in 2000 a few months after release what people pointed out for the "genius" of the movie is the car scene.
because the Dialogue has to work in 3 ways
Edward Norton -> Brad Pitt
Brad Pitt -> Edward Norton
AND
Edward Norton -> Project mayhem members in the back seat
All 3 conversations are happening at the same time, and if you remove all of Brad Pitts dialogue it works out to Edward Norton asking rhetorical questions to the guys in the back seat daring them to grab the wheel asking them essentially "Why are you here" "ILL TELL YOU WHY!!!".
Rob and Bryce need to start a drinking game......they take a shot every time Zuff says "what is going on?" or "who is that?" or "where did he come from?" or "what's happening?" They would both be drunk within 15 minutes. lol
Anytime there’s a scene where the lighting is dark zuff always asks “who is that??” 😂 sends me everytime
nah, they'd be dead lol
You want a good drinking game watch "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" and drink everytime they swear. Me and 3 friends drank 2 30 packs. It was fun time.
@@edittheworld-ct5yubest actual drinking game is Withnail and I'. You have to copy everything they drink throughout the film, but that does mean downing a can of lighter fluid(don't do that!😂) And a £500 bottle of wine(do that) amongst all the rest!😁
Okay, I gotta finally say it. One of my FAVORITE things is when Rob already knows what’s happening and basically winks at the camera Jim-on-the-office-style 😂😂😂😂
Rob almost blowing it at the beginning saying Ed Nortons characters name is Tyler 😂
He had a nice save though.
Smh
he did that on purpose
Oh, by the way: in the "hit me" scene, Ed actually hit Brad right there. You could even see Ed laughing, and Brad's reaction was genuine
This was an excellent pick Bryce a cult classic and a masterpiece to me also robs face when Bryce was putting the pieces together was amazing loved the reaction
Cult classic? This is a classic, period.
Love it when clever artists get fun!🤍🖤🤍🖤
So glad Bryce picked this one! Such an interesting piece of work !!! Always enjoy each of your unique reactions!!
Zuff trying to make sense of that nasty fat concoction
Rob: Oh, don't be a realest here, come on, get immersed
LOL, that was too funny😂😂
“Ketchup and eggs ketchup and eggs.”😂
Bryce getting nervous when Rob started chanting 😂
Zuff after him going to the meetings to cry.. “is that weird”
Instantly rob “yes”
The straightforwardness and quickness kills me 😂😂😂😂
Now you know why he actually has insomnia. All those odd jobs Tyler had, they were his.
Or was he sleep walkingb doing those jobs and eventually all blended together? It seemed more like Brad Pitt didn't appear until that change happened & he started hallucinating.
This is definitely a film that needs multiple watches to truly understand the themes of anti-capitalism, toxic masculinity, the lie of the American dream, and learning to let go.
Apparently it takes even more watches to realize it's about none of those things.
@@spacemonkeyentertainment6413wait what
@@BaulFoodmanedits what exactly confused you ?
@@spacemonkeyentertainment6413 well its for sure taking the piss out of capitalism/consumerism and learning to stop giving such a fk about everything not sure about the other two things he pointed out but what big conclusion have u come to if u think its about none of the above when the author has pointed out those are some of the main points?
@@valto5477 Consumerism yes, capitalism no. And while those are linked to an extent, the destinction is important, because somehow people talk about it like the movie promotes anarchy/nihilism and somehow even communism, when Pitts character is the defacto villain of the story. Neither extreme is shown in a positive light, yet people run with it, imo preventing them to see the search for meaning among other things.
Now, "toxic masculinity" is a vapid term anyway, because it can be filled with anything a man does that one disapproves of, but it also comes from a simplistic view of the world, that i think Palahniuk would disapprove of. He himself pointed out that it was partly about "male empowerment" in the sense that it is about finding purpose and dealing with life, a message completely lost on people who think along the lines of "men bad, fighting bad".
And lastly, Palahniuk isn't exactly the most exact writer, by which i mean he sometimes cares more about the shock value and just going "look at this mess, how did we get here" than having a real lesson that he wants to hammer home. The thought provoking is more important than the teaching so to speak. So i think it's fair to say that he doesn't really offer that many answers to the questions he points out himself.
After the car crash...Edward Norton crawls out of the driver side.
“But, they’re the cops” and “he got a buzz cut” had me rolling
It’s way deeper than that. The narrators job is played for laughs but it’s the most cruel, dehumanising job anyone could imagine. That’s why he can’t sleep.
Tyler is his rage
Marla is his guilt
Bob is his compassion
You could go much deeper, but it’s quite the rabbit hole, and a solid reason why this is probably one of greatest movies of all time.
35:30
*possibly the biggest twist in cinematic history is revealed*
zoff: he got a buzz cut :)
bryce: that’s what you got outta that bro?! 😂
@@Derpng Respectfully disagree: Zuff is whimsical and fun and one of the reasons a lot of us come back. Not everyone reacts to things the same, otherwise reaction channels wouldn't be so popular. If I wanted everyone to think and consume media just like me, the world would be very boring.
If you guys haven't seen American History X, I can't recommend it enough. Not only is it intense and relevant, but you'll also get to see Norton in the role of a lifetime, complete with shaved head.
Relevant? Ok
@@danielwalker1538 definitely relevant to U.S. racial politics today, almost to the point of "goddammit, nothing has changed"
@@danielwalker1538extremely relevant. It could have been made today
And why is that?
@@danielwalker1538 Act dumb and clueless all you want.
*Every guy who gets a personal trainer.*
Personal trainer: “So what are your goals?”
Guy: “Brad Pitt in fight club.”
Personal trainer: “You’re not Brad Pitt so let’s go for something more realistic.”
Hey man, you should join our club..
The first time Zack Braff met Arnold Schwarzenegger, it was in a gym, and Arnold asked him "What are your workout goals?". Zach said in that moment, he forgot all the answers he'd come up with, and just said "Did you see Fight Club?" Arnold smiled and said "Brad's abs? That's all diet. Eat a lot of carrots."
This is one of those cases where I have never seen the movie yet I know all plot points out of purse pop culture
When he calls Tyler after his apartment blew up, notice how the pay phone said no incoming calls allowed?
ed norton is such a good actor. other roles of his that stick out to me are the movie primal fear and of course american history x. highly recommend both of those.
I think the guy on the left has the brain of a golden retriever
I watched fight club while on heavy painkillers after a surgery. Definitely an out of body experience with the twist at the end.
Also, movie suggestions if none of y’all have seen them: The Prestige or Molly’s Game
The PRESTIGE!
If you want an even bigger plot twist: Marla is also an alternate personality of the main character.
He genuinely has testicular cancer and he's unable to deal with this reality. This is why he goes to support groups but is in denial. Tyler is his need to rebel against his reality by adopting a macho hypermasculine persona, who wants to burn everything down. Marla is his instinct to accept his new feminised reality and let go. He hates that part of himself. Bob with his b*tchtits is also a manifestation of his fear of emasculation.
At the end he reaches out to Marla after destroying Tyler, while the old world collapses around him and he accepts his more integrated self.
The whole thing is in his head!
Clue: "paper street" is the address of the house. Thats the term used by city planners to describe a street that is mapped but hasn't been built yet.
Interesting fan fiction, and might be better than the actual movie.
@@jowbloe3673 isn't that in the book tho?
is this confirmed or just a fan theory? I could definitely believe those characters symbolize those things you mentioned, but wouldn't say they're definite manifestations that live in his head.
Also, I never read the book, so if that's confirmed or alluded to in there, i wouldn't know lol
@@lavenderllamamusic it's a theory I heard but when I've watched it since it feels like it holds together. Nobody speaks to Marla except the main character.
I'm not sure what the authors intentions were but it definitely doesn't seem to me to be "Tyler Durden is the answer to men's feelings of alienation" which seems to be a lot of people's takeaway.
@@andrewmarkland4231 What about the last scene where one of the cultists brought Marla to Ed's character? Do you think that was real narrator's body with Marla in it and narrator/Tyler scene was imaginary? Or is whole "imaginary Marla" also a trick with final reveal at the end? That said I like your (or any other) and mainstream interpretations. Makes you see this film differently each time.
The "I havent been fucked like that since grade school" line was messed up for a couple reasons. Helena Bonham-Carter didnt know how controversial the line would be here in the US because in the UK "grade school" is a higher level for teens whereas in the US it's preteens. She was mortified when she found out later.
Why is either OK or normal to anyone?
@@orphanedhanyou Did someone say it was okay or normal? Do I need to explain my very simple comment to you?
First movie I saw that blew me away at the end. Made me fall in love with cinema as a kid and get into different directing styles.
Did they recognize Marla as Bellatrix Lestrange?
As soon as Bryce predicted the plot I wish I could’ve gone through the screen and gaslighted tf out of him the rest of the movie 😭
The first hit was actually real. Brad Pitts reaction is authentic.
I find it interesting watching Gen Z men react to this movie with a lot of confusion…and not seemingly connecting to it. This movie was THE thing for Gen X men in the late 90s. Definitely a generational and a “had to be there” kind of situation. It was a different time.
I'm a millennial and was 18 when this movie came out. What I find interesting is that the character of Tyler Durden is reprehensible and toxic, which is clearly the director's vision, and which these young men recognized, while a strange subset of the original audience took this movie as a foundational work in the "Mens' Rights" movement. It's a movie about a dissatisfied man's descent into villainy, but too many of the Gen Xers thought he was heroic, and to be emulated.
I remember that when I saw it when it came out, it resonated with me in re: the anti-capitalist, anti-consumer themes, but, like these guys, not vibing with that turning into violence and destruction. "You are not [what you buy]" is an important lesson, but it was directed into something nonsensical and debased.
I find it more interessting that the Gen X apparently more often misuderstod the actual intention + message of the movie(and book, but to be fair it's more obvious in the book) than later generations.
@@eschatological Exactly.
@@eschatological i just keep thinking how office job boredom and apartment furnishing options are impossible to relate to as major social ills.
@@samgradyfilm The 90s was such a decade of excess/success that "boredom at an office job" became kind of a proto-meme. Fight Club, Office Space...it was the height of popularity for Dilbert too.
The best way to enter into this movie is a) not to know the twist, and b) not to even know that there's gonna be a twist.
As "Jack" is beating himself up in his bosses' office... "for some reason I thought of my first fight.... with Tyler." Then you see the reveal later that he was beating himself up in the parking lot. Yeah, "Jack" kills Tyler by proving that he has control of his own mind when he pulls the trigger to the gun. Basically faking him out that he shot himself, even though he knew what he was doing.
His name is Robert Paulson.
When I rewatched the movie, I payed close attention to when tyler and the narrator were interacting with other people. Like when tyler is selling soap (the narrator is silent, and tyler is talking)
Love this pick, Bryce! In the book, Ed Norton's character name is revealed to be Jack, like the stories he was reading, but I always assumed it was a pseudonym. This was the first book that absolutely captivated me and changed my perspective on life. Palahniuk is amazing.
It is not. The narrator has no name.
No, even in the book, the narrator is never named. He only refers to himself as Jack ("I am Jack's complete lack of surprise") in reference to the Reader's Digest article ("I am Jack's colon").
He doesn't have a name in the first book but in the sequel it's revealed his character's name is Sebastian
Paper st is a real estate term for an address that isn't on the map
HBC is a wild actress.
Ed is in the passenger seat first, then you see Tyler getting out of the passenger seat and pulling Ed out of the driver's seat. Hmm...
I watched this so many times when it 1st came out plus Brad Pitt ain’t bad to look at!!!! I have read the book too and it’s just as good. Good job Bryce catching the flashes. I didn’t see them until I watched it a second time.
Who knew Bryce had a hawk eye?
Zuff: "nothing in this makes sense." Gen X begs to differ, lol it was fun watching Bryce verbalize what he clocked from the beginning when he saw the glitch in the Matrix. "Is Tyler a real person?? I've been thinking this the whole time." Love watching people get it.
A lot of the clues are wayyyy too obvious. But when I first saw this movie, I was drunk, so I missed tham all. The thing that gave it away for me, was the car crash. The narrator crawls out of the drivers' side, and Tyler gets out of the passenger side. It was only then that I started thinking back to the more obvious giveaways. I'd ignored them cus they were too obvious, and I'd been told there was a twist. I wasn't expecting the movie to just give the twist away. I made my own copy for when I watch with someone who hasn't seen it. I cut out the "....could you wake up as a different person" scene, the ".....sometimes tyler spoke for me" scene, the "...this conversation is over" scene and a few others. But, honestly, I kinda regret it. I think part of the genius is that it was so in-your-face the whole time. And every time the movie gives away its own twist, something happens immediately after, to distract you. So maybe it's not so bad that it's so obvious. Cus if you still don't spot it, you're kinda a participant in the movie.
Who would think a movie called Fight Club would have a line like "Being there, pressed against his tits, ready to cry. This was my vacation...and she ruined everything."
If guy s have seen the Harry Potter movies? Marla singer, played by Helena Bonham Carter. She played Belatrix LaStrange. And was Married to Tim Burton.
Also, if you remember in the movie he did go see a doctor. He suffered from Narcolepsy. And the doctor told him to go to testicular cancer meetings. The untreated Narcolepsy led to him creating a split personality.
When Meatloaf died, the comment section with people chanting "His name is Robert Paulson"
I gotta admit it, you guys are pretty sharp, I didn't catch it! But then, I'm a bit of a cabbage.
In the book Marla says, " I want to have your abortion." They changed it for the film to the grade school remark.
Brad's parents didn't like the chemical burn scene. Brad suggested they not see the movie, but they insisted. They were met with quite a surprise.
I came into this movie without knowing there was a twist and yes it was pretty mind blowing
Btw, the bleached blonde that shows up now and again? That was Jared Leto.
In retrospect I should not have been allowed to watch this when it came out... I was like 12. Everyone in my school quoted it all the time. It holds up pretty well I think.
Book ending was way more ambiguous, and bleak.
He blacks out, wakes up in a hospital, and for a second he thinks he's dead
Then he finds out the hospital employees are members too, and they're waiting for Tyler to come back
In other words: people that are supposed to help you are the ones hurting you
Holy shit, that is bleak.
Bob is meatloaf btw!
R u kidding? Youve never seen this? I am jacks shock and dismay 😢
THEORY! Bob isn’t real either.. hear me outtttt.. what if he’s another figment that represents the literal polar opposite of the strong and powerful Tyler.. he is weak, “pathetic” and not masculine or powerful at all .. I think when Bob dies, it represents the narrator’s “weakness” dying inside of him..which is coincidentally when Tyler starts to become completely unhinged …idk😅 just a thought
i've even made my 55 y/o mum watch this film, she didn't get why I liked it at first but ended up loving it. Amazing pick Bryce
so happy u picked this bryce!! what an amazing movie
Notice how Ed winced when he hit Tyler?
This was absolutely wild in theaters in ‘99… cone to think of it, 99 was a great year for movies. Blair Witch Project, Sixth Sense, The South Park movie, American Beauty, The Matrix, Magnolia, Virgin Suicides… sheesh. Great reaction dudes!
so watching your reaction i just noticed that when brad pitt is talking to fight club and says "you'd all be millionaires and movie gods and rock stars" he is looking at jared leto, a millionaire actor and rockstar lol
I wish I could watch it for the first time again. It’s so good!
When I saw this in the theatres with my mate, we thought it would be just a testosterone fuelled fighting film. We were totally blindsided by the twist.
i watched this when i was around 15yo and, needless to say, my (still-in-development) mind got blown. i didn't even know there was a plot twist when i watched it so i was freaking out! i was instantly a fan of david fincher and needed to watch everything he made.
throughout the years film bros and anti-filmbros kinda soured my view on this movie, sadly. i never stopped believing it as an amazing movie but i guess i forgot how masterful it is, and your reaction just reminded of that! even if i have other fincher movies i prefer, like Gone Girl, The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo and Se7en, i still rate it as top tier
so thank you! good reaction!
His name is said twice, or maybe more. It's Cornelius!
I've seen other reactors figure it out when Marla and the narrator are argueing and Tyler telling the narrator what to say congrats
One thing I love about this movie, I heard that the line, "I haven't been fucked like that since grade school" was originally "I can't wait to have your abortion" or something along those lines. Fox made them change the line since they don't believe in abortion. So they went ahead and made the line even worse lol
You guys are breaking rule number one
the guy who plays Bob is Meatloaf
The big ball from Chainsaw Man's OP is a reference to Fight club like other movies there.
I don't know how the narrator didn't stand out at the circle cell support group
In the car crash scene the narrator gets out of the driver side even though he's in the passenger seat the entire scene
Great movie pick i got way too excited seeing this reaction lol
I always love when Rob knows the end... cracks me up lol. I saw this in theaters and had no idea what to expect. I figured it was just another artistic/dark/eccentric movie that was happening a lot during the 90s (re:Pulp Fiction).
So when all was revealed, I actually thought Tyler was still messing with him, like a puppet master/cult leader type. It wasn't until Ed Norton's character was physically shown talking to no one at the hotel that it all clicked for me... and even then it took me a minute lol. My boyfriend at the time said he knew something was off, but did not expect a twist like that. He loved it, and went to see it again that same weekend. Became an all time favorite among a lot of my friends at the time.
There's also a really disgusting detail in the fridge that's a nod to the book.
See that gross bag of unmentionables?
Marla's mom asked her to store her collagen for her for injections, and Tyler stole it to make soap.
Notice how the camera shook when he hosed the priest? That's cause the camera guy was laughing so hard. If you really listen, you can actually hear it.
How people understand and appreciate Fight Club but not Sucker Punch (both 2 of my favorite films) when they're 2 peas of the exact same pod thematically will never cease to amaze me
Tyler is not the only figment of the narrator's imagination, Bob also is a figment he doesn't interact with anyone other than the narrator or Tyler, Marla might be a figment but that's less of a solid theory, and all of project mayem would be a figment
When Where Is My Mind • Pixies plays, it was epic and haunting
Watch Kalifornia (1993) if haven't. Brad Pitt nailed it in the movie as a psychotic villain.
I think it would be considered a hate crime to hit Brad Pitt in the face, it be like defacing a national monument🤔
It's been a long time since i watched fight club for the first time, but i went in blind without any hint of the twist. It surprised me on the first watch
my favorite rule was always "if this your first night..you have to fight"
This is the craziest movie I have ever seen. Definitely worrying to me if men actually aspire to be Tyler. Toxic masculinity is NOT an admirable trait.
You should be worried about women who aspire to be cardi b and onlyfans models.
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someone spoiled this movie for me as a joke when i told them i hadnt watched it, tht upset me so much tht i could never bring myself to watch it. so i watched this with u for the first time coz i knew i was not going to do it on my own, so thank u for reacting to it i guess .lol.
Really love yalls reactions! But i would love you guys to react to more black classic movies i noticed the only one you guys have done is friday and white chicks. Which i really enjoyed would love to see more of that if you guys have time!!❤
If you've never seen the Rocky Horror Picture Show, Meatloaf (Bob) plays Eddie.
Also, this is one of the best book to film adaptations I have ever seen.
I'd argue that bare knuckle boxing is safer because you can't take as many punches without tapping out. UFC and boxing always leads to brain damage.
So happy to see this notification!
We need another movie from Tyler's point of view like how he learned how to make all that stuff and what he's doing off screen, we see the end results but never see how he did it all, and just being by the narrator's age this was before the internet that Tyler learned how to make that stuff, i don't care how mental you are you don't just learn how to make soap and dynamite
its sad that people dont get messages of this movie and focus on unimportant stuff. everything tyler said has deeper meaning about life styles or today's society.
My interpretation of the ending, and which might be the most common among fans, is that the narrator made Tyler believe he's gonna shoot himself in the head. Maybe he really intended to really do that BUT, either deliberately or accidently, he shot the side of his mouth/jaw (I know that sometimes happens when people try to commit suicide in real life) but because Tyler believed it was a fatal shot to the brain, that part of his personality died. In other words, Tyler basicly turned himself off because he thought he died but the narrator stayed alive because the wound is far from being fatal. So it's not Tyler remained in the end, it's the narrator. He just acted like he's Tyler to the other club members to get rid of them but he was polite and apologetic towards Marla.
I know it's still a far fetched scenario that he can stand up and talk with such a wound in his face but remember he's the founding member of the fight club and he is really really used to pain and stuff and it made him tougher than anybody could be according to movie's lore. It's not still very plausible but you can suspend your desbelief considering these aspects. Also, we don't know how long he could continue standing after the ending, maybe he was enduring the pain but he collapsed after a few seconds due to blood loss or whatever. Didn't seem like it but it's pretty possible.
No, the meaning of the shot is symbolic. By shooting himself, the protagonist defeats his shadow; he shows that he's the one in control, that he can shut down Tyler if he wants. With that shot he "metaphorically" kills Tyler. It doesn't make sense that the whole situation is resolved just by the fact that the narrator "got lucky" because Tyler accidentally thought that the shot was fatal, it's also very anticlimactic. Even more, in the book (spoiler ahead) the narrator kills himself and Tyler with that shot.
@@mylonelysundayyour interpretation is 100% correct, but the narrator doesn’t kill himself in the book. The book ends with him in hospital, and realising the staff are all Space Monkeys.
Tyler appears 5 times before the meeting on the airplane, and they wanted him to have a psa before the movie but the studio wouldn't green light that and they also couldn't get him flashing on the fox logo
This has 2 sequels but they are graphic novels.
Saw this in the theater, didn't know going in, was blown away, also saw the D. I will say when it first came out there was a segment of the movie going audience who...lets just say took the wrong notes from the film. They were essentially stoked to get in on the cult. I think as time has gone by it is clearer how, yes, some of what "Tyler" was saying seems to have echoes of truth. But that's how it is with all cults. And this one played on masculinity in a way we both now can see as more obvious AND could just as easily happen again *coughAndrewTatecough*.
At what time are you gonna upload hereditary on patreon? I can’t wait 🤩
Y’all should watch CHICK FIGHT. Female fight club!!!!
I showed this to my students last semester as part of a lesson on responding to film criticism. When I finally got around to reading my teaching evaluations, I laughed my ass off at how many comments I got about it. They ranged from "that was the best movie I've ever seen," to "that movie was horrible and is something I would never normally watch AND will NEVER watch again,".
The phone booth if you notice it has a sign that says it can not receive calls
lmao jared leto is in this movie for all of 30 seconds. and he gets what he deserves for his attempt at the joker in suicide squad 🤣
It's a genuine shame that so many (primarily guys) completely fail to understand that this movie is *satirizing* toxic masculinity. when this movie came out I had idiot friends going "oh let's start a fight club, tyler durden's awesome", and i was like "are you fucking kidding me?"
That’s a really nice intro