Definitely looking forward to fast scan tv. Also, definitely would love to see reactions from those that have made their own microwave, etc transceivers, perhaps with those clubs. When a unique product occurs, stuff like that is fun to see. Have fun while it last in your hands! 73!
If you can hang onto them into June/July and catch the HI to CA tropo duct... work some long distance SSB! When these become available Kent WA5VJB makes some patch antennas with medium gain that wold work well with this. Much easier to handle than a dish antenna with its very narrow beamwidth. M Squared in CA makes a couple 1296 yagis, I use 4 of the 35 element versions for tropo on that band. RF Ham Design in the UK makes linear polarization dish feeds, some multiband including a 4 band 1296, 2304, 5760, and 10ghz feed for a larger dish(minimum 4' for 1296...6' would be better) Microwave bands can be fun and some long distances get worked! Here in MN the 10ghz guys go up to the Lake Superior North shore every summer and work the duct that forms into MI, some have dish antennas on the tower at home for tropo ducting and have worked hundreds of miles on SSB. Looking forward to seeing the price on this to see if it is competitive vs using separate transverters and if the noise figure is acceptable for weak signal work.
I just got my first transverter for 23cm. Going to spend the winter setting it up to use as a portable rig. I've been really interested in the IC-905 since it was released.
I'm intrigued but fear that they have introduced "Pro" into Amateur Radio. I think a new shack in the box with all the bells and whistles that HAM'S are after would be more sought after by us and more profitable for ICOM. The R&D alone must have cost alot, compared to updating current 160m to 70cm rigs with today's technology and user needs. :/ I'm hoping they are also working on that too.🤞🙏🤠
I am absolutely not the target audience for this, nor anyone I know. They should have spent the effort on mid tier HT's, a new mobile, or something actually useful to regular people. It looks neat but...
Jealous of those guys getting to work the tropo duct that forms every year, those are some long distances to work on microwaves! Where I am in MN I usually get ducting a couple times a year out to ~600 miles and one a year to 1,000+ Last year I managed 1100 miles on 2m and 70cm into SC... that duct hung around for 4-5 hours...
Man, that is pretty damn cool. Hope to jaw with you at Dayton about it, being as I'll be with Bruna and Roberto right next to the Icom launch pad. I've been interested in the >70cm range for a while. Never got further than an early 10 GHz horn thingie decades ago. So now it's getting dangerously easy. Thanks for the preview video, Josh. See ya at Dayton I hope. 73 de W8IJN (Imagine doing POTA on this ;-) )
It looks interesting, I have seen people operating microwave but I have never been on bands that high. Should be a lot of fun exploring what is going on in your area. Let us know what you find.
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One topic which I haven't seen mentioned often is if the IC-905 is going to have Bluetooth and WiFi, like the IC-705 has. Also, the possibility to connect a camera was often mentioned, but with no details. What connector is used, what type of signal does it expect etc?
I would love to see the video function, probably one of the more difficult modes to demo. We have to see it on FT8 of course. Would like to see some noise floor on 13cm and 6cm bands.
How well will it receive on 618MHz (non-modified LNB for receiving 10.368GHz) or more interestingly, 739MHz, the IF from a normal LNB when receiving QO-100. If it can receive that stock, it would make for an excellent QO-100 rig with it's native 2.4GHz uplink.
How would you use an amp with IC-905, would the amp need to be mounted on the mast with the outdoor unit? Do you need a pre-amp with the unit or does the outdoor unit eliminate the need. will a cage for the 705 work on the 905? 2m 70cm 23cm all on one antenna or better to use 3 antenna's. (discone, log periodic or vertical). Can we see FT8 on all the bands? how long will the battery last(yes its a trick question)? CW how does it sound?
Not my bag, but interesting as it's using some of the same hardware as the 705, which is my dream first radio. Ray Novak is a star for sending you the kit to test. It will be interesting to see, especially if there are any extra power requirements. I feel really deprived in the UK that we can't seem to get Bioenno batteries.
Icom just Came Out With a Very Hot Selling Transceiver! I'm going to get one Next Year, this way I get the Fourth Bach of These! These Transceiver for Hams like Me that live in a Apartment,
Just like lower bands... there is FM(even a few 10ghz repeaters...), SSB/CW weak signal where people work hundreds or even thousands of miles, moonbounce to work the world...
For routine use? It’s entirely line of sight. It’s so line of sight in fact, that you’ll have significant degradation if there’s a dry wall between two radios. For some intuition, think WiFI in your house. That’s at 2.4GHz and 5GHz; 10GHz is worse.
I have a technical question which will dictate whether I shall buy a couple of these or not...can the RF unit be remotely installed over an ethernet network? I ask as I will need to install the RF unit and 10GHz transverter on a remote site (I can provide PoE for it) and will need to have the display/control unit on my bench in the workshop/shack, connecting the two over my private ethernet network.
Can you explain why someone would want SHF? Aren't you limited to 'feet' with frequencies that high? Sure, sending a file to your shed at 20gbps would be sweet and all...but I'm not sure I'm gonna buy one for that purpose.
Your not limited to feet. I have made contacts 200+ miles away on 10GHz with a 600mm dish before. www.arrl.org/news/new-world-record-claimed-on-10-ghz#:~:text=Two%20Amateur%20Radio%20microwave%20enthusiasts,mode%20as%20well%20as%20SSB.
These were done CW or SSB Using rain scatter(thunderstorms are dense enough to act as a reflector) on 5ghz 527 miles is the current record, tropo ducting 999 miles 10ghz rain scatter 527 miles, tropo 762 miles Moonbounce is worldwide... but power to do it on those bands is big bucks!
lot of weak signal SSB/CW on those bands in parts of the country, repeaters up to 23cm are fairly common(especially in big cities, 23cm gets used quite a bit), on 23cm weak signal I have worked stations 900 miles away on troposheric ducting... last VHF contest I made a dozen 23cm contacts
And yet a missed opportunity for a major radio brand to include 222mhz...what a crock. As we're trying to save every inch of bandwidth in the US it's like the big 3 just can't bring themselves to add 1.25m. Yaesu does with their HTs, but it's an afterthought.
@@HamRadioCrashCourse True, although Japanese models have some different frequency ranges, the UK has some different frequency ranges, and granted it's not a whole band, they could do it for a US model. In my opinion anyway.
troposheric ducting record on 10ghz is 762 miles... lot of SSB on that band too And on 10ghz you can bounce signals off the rain in a thunderstorm, 527 miles is that current record And it is one of the more popular moon bounce bands but the 30 watt amplifier to do that is not cheap... $3k ish or so
Another radio and accessories for the rich. Looking online at gigaparts, would cost you about 6000 dollars to get the whole setup. Companies sure don't think about the average guy. Guess I'd have to pay bills before buying the whole thing for 6000. Outside that I do like the whole setup and idea of working these frequencies but I will never be able to enjoy it. 73
Using rain scatter(thunderstorms are dense enough to act as a reflector) on 5ghz 527 miles is the current record, tropo ducting 999 miles 10ghz rain scatter 527 miles, tropo 762 miles Moonbounce is worldwide... but power to do it on those bands is big bucks!
@@MaryBrownForFreedom Well, doing ~500 miles occasionally at 10GHz is an interesting exercise I suppose. Personally, I think it totally misses the point of running at microwave frequencies. S-band and higher really kinda sucks on every single measure of merit, except one - bandwidth. S-band and higher means the capacity to move lots of bits with alacrity. We have no access to this with the IC-905. Nope, we're stuck with a few kHz at a time for SSB phone. SSTV? Seriously, when the bandwidth is there to push many concurrent 4k streams at 60fps? We have 500Mhz of the spectrum available in the amateur allocation of the 10GHz band. On this twenty lane wide autobahn, the IC-905 limits us to a one inch wide strip for the Razor push scooter.
Testing an Icon with an Alinco. Icom may never send you anything else to play with. Think it is going to be one sweet radio but for sure something I will never be able to afford
You get the bragging rights of having the ability to talk on more bands and higher freq than any of your friends. I just know my 7300 and 9700 need this to keep them company.😮
Maybe you should create the most successful ham radio channel on youtube. Then you'll get some free kit to play with! But you gotta change that attitude first...
Definitely looking forward to fast scan tv. Also, definitely would love to see reactions from those that have made their own microwave, etc transceivers, perhaps with those clubs. When a unique product occurs, stuff like that is fun to see. Have fun while it last in your hands! 73!
We have a lot of 10 Ghz local activity but even just yacking on 1296 simplex is fun. My best on 1296 is 98 km
Which antenna do you use for those bands?
@@HamRadioCrashCourse talk to M Squared there in CA... maybe they will loan you a 1296 beam for testing. The are located in Fresno.
If you can hang onto them into June/July and catch the HI to CA tropo duct... work some long distance SSB!
When these become available Kent WA5VJB makes some patch antennas with medium gain that wold work well with this. Much easier to handle than a dish antenna with its very narrow beamwidth.
M Squared in CA makes a couple 1296 yagis, I use 4 of the 35 element versions for tropo on that band.
RF Ham Design in the UK makes linear polarization dish feeds, some multiband including a 4 band 1296, 2304, 5760, and 10ghz feed for a larger dish(minimum 4' for 1296...6' would be better)
Microwave bands can be fun and some long distances get worked! Here in MN the 10ghz guys go up to the Lake Superior North shore every summer and work the duct that forms into MI, some have dish antennas on the tower at home for tropo ducting and have worked hundreds of miles on SSB.
Looking forward to seeing the price on this to see if it is competitive vs using separate transverters and if the noise figure is acceptable for weak signal work.
I doubt I will be able to, I believe this is headed to Hamvention after my time with it.
I just got my first transverter for 23cm. Going to spend the winter setting it up to use as a portable rig. I've been really interested in the IC-905 since it was released.
I'm intrigued but fear that they have introduced "Pro" into Amateur Radio.
I think a new shack in the box with all the bells and whistles that HAM'S are after would be more sought after by us and more profitable for ICOM. The R&D alone must have cost alot, compared to updating current 160m to 70cm rigs with today's technology and user needs. :/
I'm hoping they are also working on that too.🤞🙏🤠
I am absolutely not the target audience for this, nor anyone I know. They should have spent the effort on mid tier HT's, a new mobile, or something actually useful to regular people. It looks neat but...
So when is ICOM going to return your wife, and children? 🙀😹
LOL, whenever I return the radio :D
Lucky! Have fun on the SHF bands, I'd be interested to seeing your experiments. Next step will be you sending a signal to Hawaii. It will happen!
Jealous of those guys getting to work the tropo duct that forms every year, those are some long distances to work on microwaves! Where I am in MN I usually get ducting a couple times a year out to ~600 miles and one a year to 1,000+ Last year I managed 1100 miles on 2m and 70cm into SC... that duct hung around for 4-5 hours...
I laughed out loud when you opened the box and there was light.
Had that one kicking around in my head a while.
Like opening the trunk in Repo Man.
I'm super excited to see the results of this innovation.
Man, that is pretty damn cool. Hope to jaw with you at Dayton about it, being as I'll be with Bruna and Roberto right next to the Icom launch pad. I've been interested in the >70cm range for a while. Never got further than an early 10 GHz horn thingie decades ago. So now it's getting dangerously easy. Thanks for the preview video, Josh. See ya at Dayton I hope. 73 de W8IJN (Imagine doing POTA on this ;-) )
I love the Alinco DJ-G7, it is how I made sure my IC-9700 worked.
Amazing antenna, should be great for beamforming.
It looks interesting, I have seen people operating microwave but I have never been on bands that high. Should be a lot of fun exploring what is going on in your area. Let us know what you find.
Looks interesting and expensive too. I'll keep in HF CW QRP with cheap wire antennas.
I can't wait to see your future videos with the 905!! I'll be watching them!! Robert K5TPC
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One topic which I haven't seen mentioned often is if the IC-905 is going to have Bluetooth and WiFi, like the IC-705 has. Also, the possibility to connect a camera was often mentioned, but with no details. What connector is used, what type of signal does it expect etc?
Can you do VERY wideband data?
I would love to see the video function, probably one of the more difficult modes to demo.
We have to see it on FT8 of course. Would like to see some noise floor on 13cm and 6cm bands.
How well will it receive on 618MHz (non-modified LNB for receiving 10.368GHz) or more interestingly, 739MHz, the IF from a normal LNB when receiving QO-100. If it can receive that stock, it would make for an excellent QO-100 rig with it's native 2.4GHz uplink.
How would you use an amp with IC-905, would the amp need to be mounted on the mast with the outdoor unit? Do you need a pre-amp with the unit or does the outdoor unit eliminate the need. will a cage for the 705 work on the 905? 2m 70cm 23cm all on one antenna or better to use 3 antenna's. (discone, log periodic or vertical). Can we see FT8 on all the bands? how long will the battery last(yes its a trick question)? CW how does it sound?
Josh, IC-905 1.2GHz TX is 10W, watch for the safe distance and do not TX when the antenna is next to your head.
Oops too late.
Nice Josh!
Looking forward to seeing your home brew ground plane for 10Ghz! 😉
Not my bag, but interesting as it's using some of the same hardware as the 705, which is my dream first radio. Ray Novak is a star for sending you the kit to test. It will be interesting to see, especially if there are any extra power requirements. I feel really deprived in the UK that we can't seem to get Bioenno batteries.
Yagis so far for the lower bands. The GHZ ones needs some planning. 1296 is the Looper style from DES
Im gonna be getting my license and this is the radio im looking at but I wanna see more videos on this bad boy cause I wanna use it as a base station
Nice demo on a radio I have been interested in for too long. I'm sure it will be another year before I can even find one.
Hey Josh,
Very cool video. I hope to get a IC-905 soon. thanks for sharing. 73!
Thanks so much for sharing my friend!
That Ray.....he has a huge trunk to fit all those toys in!
I'm new to all of this Radio/Ham stuff but I thought a 905 was simply a unit you just put on a desk or shelf, screw in the antenna and plug it in. 😆
Take care of it, I enjoy it a lot !
How about an all mode 2/.70m all mode mobile that is George Jetson easy to use?
Icom just Came Out With a Very Hot Selling Transceiver! I'm going to get one Next Year, this way I get the Fourth Bach of These!
These Transceiver for Hams like Me that live in a Apartment,
I like to put this in my Ram truck but seems impossible with the way it’s constructed
Wow you must feel honored 7-10k worth of microwave Comm’s. Love to see what you hear 😊 maybe see live rain scatter qsos 😊
Just overall, how the upper bands are utilized.
Just like lower bands... there is FM(even a few 10ghz repeaters...), SSB/CW weak signal where people work hundreds or even thousands of miles, moonbounce to work the world...
Super cool stuff! What do you figure is the range of SHF?
For routine use? It’s entirely line of sight. It’s so line of sight in fact, that you’ll have significant degradation if there’s a dry wall between two radios. For some intuition, think WiFI in your house. That’s at 2.4GHz and 5GHz; 10GHz is worse.
Take a look at EME
@@radiojared EME _is_ line of sight. If your antenna can't see the moon, you have no comms.
I have a technical question which will dictate whether I shall buy a couple of these or not...can the RF unit be remotely installed over an ethernet network? I ask as I will need to install the RF unit and 10GHz transverter on a remote site (I can provide PoE for it) and will need to have the display/control unit on my bench in the workshop/shack, connecting the two over my private ethernet network.
How appropriate you wear that shirt. Im not interested until high power is available
Where can I order a kit like that?
Sounds like it might be time for Ham Radio vs. Hot Dog Part II 🌭
Better do a video on Microwave SAFETY. Microwave heats water; your body is mostly water including your brain.
I think a price range would be great to know. I'd hate to reserve one and then find out it was like $19K.
This isn’t a review. I’m just opening the box here, more to come. Don’t let me get in the way of you looking up a radio on Google.
$3500. HAM radio:
H…ad
A… lot of
M…oney
😂
you should test on ssb 2m please
But does it take glock mags???
That’s nuts!
This video is so crisp
Can you explain why someone would want SHF? Aren't you limited to 'feet' with frequencies that high? Sure, sending a file to your shed at 20gbps would be sweet and all...but I'm not sure I'm gonna buy one for that purpose.
Your not limited to feet. I have made contacts 200+ miles away on 10GHz with a 600mm dish before. www.arrl.org/news/new-world-record-claimed-on-10-ghz#:~:text=Two%20Amateur%20Radio%20microwave%20enthusiasts,mode%20as%20well%20as%20SSB.
Depends on line of sight and antenna. But yes, fast data.
These were done CW or SSB
Using rain scatter(thunderstorms are dense enough to act as a reflector) on 5ghz 527 miles is the current record, tropo ducting 999 miles
10ghz rain scatter 527 miles, tropo 762 miles
Moonbounce is worldwide... but power to do it on those bands is big bucks!
@@MaryBrownForFreedom That was definitely unexpected. Thanks for the update.
That intro 😂
You really make great videos
I appreciate that!
I've never transmitted on any frequency that high. Is there any activity on those bands and the question I have is it really worth $3500 for QRP....
If you've used WiFi or have a cell phone, you've certainly transmitted on frequencies that high.
@RobertLeeAtYT well that sums it up I can do the same thing for a fraction of the price thanks
lot of weak signal SSB/CW on those bands in parts of the country, repeaters up to 23cm are fairly common(especially in big cities, 23cm gets used quite a bit), on 23cm weak signal I have worked stations 900 miles away on troposheric ducting... last VHF contest I made a dozen 23cm contacts
Was that a “Repo Man” reference?
Which?
@@HamRadioCrashCourse The glow emanating from the trunk/case. It reminded me of the ending of Repo Man.
I was think the briefcase in Pulp Fiction, but that works too :D
But will it Get DOWN. And *first*
And yet a missed opportunity for a major radio brand to include 222mhz...what a crock. As we're trying to save every inch of bandwidth in the US it's like the big 3 just can't bring themselves to add 1.25m. Yaesu does with their HTs, but it's an afterthought.
Because… Japan doesn’t have 1.25m. Many countries don’t.
@@HamRadioCrashCourse True, although Japanese models have some different frequency ranges, the UK has some different frequency ranges, and granted it's not a whole band, they could do it for a US model. In my opinion anyway.
Holay crap! now im excited !
You and me both!
So. Can someone explain the advantage of 10 gig to me? I get it for high speed p2p data communication but what is the point for phone?
SUPER crisp audio into the next room 😁
troposheric ducting record on 10ghz is 762 miles... lot of SSB on that band too
And on 10ghz you can bounce signals off the rain in a thunderstorm, 527 miles is that current record
And it is one of the more popular moon bounce bands but the 30 watt amplifier to do that is not cheap... $3k ish or so
What brand power meter were you using?
I added the link to the description.
Another radio and accessories for the rich. Looking online at gigaparts, would cost you about 6000 dollars to get the whole setup. Companies sure don't think about the average guy. Guess I'd have to pay bills before buying the whole thing for 6000. Outside that I do like the whole setup and idea of working these frequencies but I will never be able to enjoy it. 73
How far can you transmit 5ghz or 10 ghz ? Seems pretty short
As far as the 1st tree.
Use WiFi at home? Yeah, about that far.
Line of sight. Although that includes transponders on satellites, so long as it's not raining ;)
Using rain scatter(thunderstorms are dense enough to act as a reflector) on 5ghz 527 miles is the current record, tropo ducting 999 miles
10ghz rain scatter 527 miles, tropo 762 miles
Moonbounce is worldwide... but power to do it on those bands is big bucks!
@@MaryBrownForFreedom Well, doing ~500 miles occasionally at 10GHz is an interesting exercise I suppose. Personally, I think it totally misses the point of running at microwave frequencies.
S-band and higher really kinda sucks on every single measure of merit, except one - bandwidth. S-band and higher means the capacity to move lots of bits with alacrity. We have no access to this with the IC-905. Nope, we're stuck with a few kHz at a time for SSB phone.
SSTV? Seriously, when the bandwidth is there to push many concurrent 4k streams at 60fps?
We have 500Mhz of the spectrum available in the amateur allocation of the 10GHz band. On this twenty lane wide autobahn, the IC-905 limits us to a one inch wide strip for the Razor push scooter.
Testing an Icon with an Alinco. Icom may never send you anything else to play with. Think it is going to be one sweet radio but for sure something I will never be able to afford
Dont see the point 1300mhz is totally empty even more than 144mhz
You get the bragging rights of having the ability to talk on more bands and higher freq than any of your friends. I just know my 7300 and 9700 need this to keep them company.😮
Like you don't have enough money... then, they just send you thousands... the rich keep getting richer, I guess.
I’m not keeping it bro.
Maybe you should create the most successful ham radio channel on youtube. Then you'll get some free kit to play with! But you gotta change that attitude first...
Wow, that's pretty exciting review of 905! We're awating for further videos about it! 73s de EX0QKT