Probably won’t be able to get it. Smaller companies won’t survive. Not sure even companies like Rogue will make it. American steel and other materials will be prioritized for other more important industries like auto and agriculture. Yes those John Deere American tractors are built with Chinese steel.
As a bodybuilder who wants a multi-purpose machine for at home, I really like your idea of utilizing the rotational cam of the leg extension for ham curls (seated and prone), bicep curls, tricep extensions, glute raises and even low back/abdominal work - while being mounted on some 3x3 11-gauge steel posts with either 5/8 or 1" holes. Ritfit and Lionscool started putting a small cable on there to even out the strength curve too. I would give major bonus points if the leg extension pad has the ability to be separated into 2 independent arms. That would allow for standing single leg ham curls as an additional exercise.
Powertec multipress is the bench, military, row machine you’ve described. ATX actually has a unit like that with a selectorized lat/low built in. It’s incredible
Definitely similar! Only difference with the powertec is that it’s basically just a standard lever system so the rows are bent over rows. I would be looking for a chest supported row in this hypothetical dream situation. Curious about the ATX piece, I’ll check it out
@MattRosenman also, powertec has a leg press attachment for the multipress. It isn't perfect, but it is pretty much the same thing as the lever arm leg press that I believe you used to do.
hey man! i have a question. Do you have 2 cable towers from Bells of Steel and if so did you connect them to a rack? And final question, what kind of rack do you have?
For people with really tiny space id like to see more calisthenic stuff. low parallettes, medium parallettes, high paralettes, creative wall mounted chin up bar etc..
One of the issues with small spaces tends to be that they also come with low ceilings. That’s the case for me, anyway. I’d be interested to see what they could make happen in that space
More small companies disappearing, more collaborations between small companies and larger ones, prices on imported products going to go up to where the imported and domestic market are almost the same.
I think the companies collabing will definitely be a big one. We saw it with PRX this year, granted they were kind of forced into it after the community rallied against them, but still a likely direction. The prices are going to be an interesting thing to watch next year for sure. It seems that the majority of the manufacturing is focused on being US-based at this point, so it seems like it's the imitation knockoffs that are going to take the biggest hit.
@@MattRosenman Rep, Bells of Steel, Titan, Fringe are some of the biggest players and their operations are going to be tied to the broader trade issues. I hope to see some cool smaller companies team up with Rep like they have with Kleva and Peppin, I hope it is Darko.
I bet companies will try the subscription thing, but I for one won’t bite. It would actually turn me off from the brand. I do think crazy customization possibilities will open up. I wouldn’t spend the extra money on it but seeing some folks setups it seems like a good chunk of people have unlimited funds to drop. It would be cool just not really for me if price is higher. I’m very function over form most times.
Do you think the VTS with iso handles would be comparable to lever arms? I know you love your lever arms, but have you put thought into vts with ISO arms replacing most of the movements? This has been eating me so I hope you can answer. My lever arms take up a lot of space
You have to consider what your favorite movements are, but lever arms allow for more movements than the VTS can offer because the VTS can only move vertically. With my lever arms, I like doing seated chest press and seated rows, for example, and I couldnt do that with the VTS. But if you only want to perform chest press, shoulder press, etc, then there is really no major advantage to lever arms if you want to save space.
That last prediction sounds like a horror story. First company to implement something like this deserves the backlash the community will give. Nobody wants subscription loot boxes in the home gym space. Thanks for the vid, entertaining and exciting to think about. A $1000 voltra equivalent would shake a lot up in the home gym space for sure.
Yeah, I don’t disagree. Had to fit the “bold” prediction definition but I can’t imagine a subscription would be successful long term. But who knows, some companies do insanely well with monthly member exclusive drops. A new company could pop up and give the subscription model a shot vs someone like Rogue trying it out snd facing backlash 🤷♂️
Neither would I like to train in a Disneylandgym nor would I ever subscribe to accessoires or stuff like that. Don't think that will ever happen. I think there will be subscriptions to AI-based personal trainers and stuff like that.
I’m here for all of it except the monthly subscription. Customer never wins with those models lol
Totally agree. But you know you’d subscribe to a Rogue membership 😉
Buy now because of the coming tariffs things will get very expensive. Buy your equipment now people
Probably won’t be able to get it. Smaller companies won’t survive. Not sure even companies like Rogue will make it. American steel and other materials will be prioritized for other more important industries like auto and agriculture. Yes those John Deere American tractors are built with Chinese steel.
So you actually think rather than control the border, Canada will prefer to have tariffs?? Stop watching MSDNC. Lol omg
As a bodybuilder who wants a multi-purpose machine for at home, I really like your idea of utilizing the rotational cam of the leg extension for ham curls (seated and prone), bicep curls, tricep extensions, glute raises and even low back/abdominal work - while being mounted on some 3x3 11-gauge steel posts with either 5/8 or 1" holes. Ritfit and Lionscool started putting a small cable on there to even out the strength curve too. I would give major bonus points if the leg extension pad has the ability to be separated into 2 independent arms. That would allow for standing single leg ham curls as an additional exercise.
@@jonstewart5386 you generally described the bulletproof isolator, it seems.
Powertec multipress is the bench, military, row machine you’ve described. ATX actually has a unit like that with a selectorized lat/low built in. It’s incredible
Definitely similar! Only difference with the powertec is that it’s basically just a standard lever system so the rows are bent over rows. I would be looking for a chest supported row in this hypothetical dream situation. Curious about the ATX piece, I’ll check it out
@MattRosenman you actually can do chest supported rows if you set the bench at an incline and attach some angles 90s to the handles.
@MattRosenman also, powertec has a leg press attachment for the multipress. It isn't perfect, but it is pretty much the same thing as the lever arm leg press that I believe you used to do.
hey man! i have a question. Do you have 2 cable towers from Bells of Steel and if so did you connect them to a rack? And final question, what kind of rack do you have?
Yup! They’re bolted to the back of my rack. Check out my recent gym tour video for a good look. I have a Titan x3 rack
For people with really tiny space id like to see more calisthenic stuff. low parallettes, medium parallettes, high paralettes, creative wall mounted chin up bar etc..
One of the issues with small spaces tends to be that they also come with low ceilings. That’s the case for me, anyway. I’d be interested to see what they could make happen in that space
More small companies disappearing, more collaborations between small companies and larger ones, prices on imported products going to go up to where the imported and domestic market are almost the same.
I think the companies collabing will definitely be a big one. We saw it with PRX this year, granted they were kind of forced into it after the community rallied against them, but still a likely direction. The prices are going to be an interesting thing to watch next year for sure. It seems that the majority of the manufacturing is focused on being US-based at this point, so it seems like it's the imitation knockoffs that are going to take the biggest hit.
@@MattRosenman Rep, Bells of Steel, Titan, Fringe are some of the biggest players and their operations are going to be tied to the broader trade issues. I hope to see some cool smaller companies team up with Rep like they have with Kleva and Peppin, I hope it is Darko.
I bet companies will try the subscription thing, but I for one won’t bite. It would actually turn me off from the brand.
I do think crazy customization possibilities will open up. I wouldn’t spend the extra money on it but seeing some folks setups it seems like a good chunk of people have unlimited funds to drop. It would be cool just not really for me if price is higher. I’m very function over form most times.
Do you think the VTS with iso handles would be comparable to lever arms? I know you love your lever arms, but have you put thought into vts with ISO arms replacing most of the movements? This has been eating me so I hope you can answer. My lever arms take up a lot of space
You have to consider what your favorite movements are, but lever arms allow for more movements than the VTS can offer because the VTS can only move vertically. With my lever arms, I like doing seated chest press and seated rows, for example, and I couldnt do that with the VTS. But if you only want to perform chest press, shoulder press, etc, then there is really no major advantage to lever arms if you want to save space.
Please create merch with "Aggressively Knurled" written on it. I will buy it. That's my prediction for 2025! 🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha on it
They don’t seem that bold. This is probably what’s going to happen eventually
That last prediction sounds like a horror story. First company to implement something like this deserves the backlash the community will give. Nobody wants subscription loot boxes in the home gym space.
Thanks for the vid, entertaining and exciting to think about. A $1000 voltra equivalent would shake a lot up in the home gym space for sure.
@@Mrwatson185 unitree pump max had a Kickstarter which recently closed. It will retail for 1k with 150 pounds of resistance.
Yeah, I don’t disagree. Had to fit the “bold” prediction definition but I can’t imagine a subscription would be successful long term. But who knows, some companies do insanely well with monthly member exclusive drops. A new company could pop up and give the subscription model a shot vs someone like Rogue trying it out snd facing backlash 🤷♂️
Smith machines, adjustable to angled linear planes for leg press implementation
My wallet will start crying with the subscription lol
Hahaha mine is already crying. I know it's inevitable.
Omg those magpins are money!!
The turtle ones that don’t exist or those rigmates ones? I mean I guess either way I agree 😆
Neither would I like to train in a Disneylandgym nor would I ever subscribe to accessoires or stuff like that. Don't think that will ever happen. I think there will be subscriptions to AI-based personal trainers and stuff like that.
AI trainers is inevitable. But I definitely wouldnt put it past companies to implement subscription models