I found that by building a 3x3, placing the lecturn in the utmost corner (of the same wall as the door), you can rotate the chairs [like you did in your sawtooth fracture ward] around the lecturn. I managed to fit approx 40-50 anatomy models in the remaining space and with the posters got my room to a boosted 60% training speed. On topic about the whole series: Pinstar, you're a legend. You've blown my mind to simple things that have been under our noses this whole time and you've helped me [and many others] gain better efficiency and greater joy out of our hospitals! Thank you for this series, it has been more than helpful!
You don't need to worry about students taking their seats or even the teacher going to the lectern. Training begins as soon as the student and teacher are in the room. You can verify this by watching a student's progress. Also to speed up training, manually pickup the students and teacher and drop them in the training room. Obviously you can only pick up the teacher if one of your own staff is doing the teaching. When you have a late game expensive training room it will often be in another plot and the majority of the training time is actually the time it takes for the teacher/student to get to the room
sorry to be so offtopic but does any of you know a tool to get back into an instagram account?? I somehow forgot the login password. I love any tips you can offer me.
@Maximiliano Erik I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm trying it out now. I see it takes a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
With removing the spaces, one space gets you 6% increase from the posters, but if you kept the space and are able to pack 4 bookshelves in the same space without pathing issues, that would be 10%. Will be fun to try, thanks for putting this out there.
I like your videos and I take a few tips with me, but I enjoy making things a little more realistic at the cost of max out come.. just dont like radiators to be in the middle of the room XD
OneOfTheNobodies yeah I do the same. My suggestion to pinstar for maximizing content is to also offer designs that balance power gaming and aesthetics. That would be an interesting series too
Good stuff on the room shape for the Space Invaders training room. Really maximizes the number of posters that can be placed. When it comes to the other bonuses, I prefer anatomy models over bookshelves. For the size and money, it's more efficient to cram as many as possible than it is to place bookshelves, not to mention not needing to worry about pathing issues. They along with the posters provide attractiveness as well, so there's no need for Gold Star Awards. The only benefit I see the Bookshelves having is in your build from your other video: the Oklahoma Training Room. It makes entry and exit more efficient to line the hallway with bookshelves than with anatomy models.
For your first design, placing the door in the corner makes you lose one wall "sub-section" , if you put the door in the middle, you should be able to fit 2 more posters (moving things inside to adjust should not be a problem since you have space in this design).
i did some test, and i found that anatomy model take up the same space overall as the bookcase II for the same amount of +%training (i mean you can fit 4 anatomy model in the same space a bookcase II take) but it cost 200$ less per +1% training and you dont have to worry about people being able to access them. did you try this ? Btw it often look ugly, i imagine student being surrounded by fake corpse for their studies, must give the chills.
It's like "oh man these fake bodies makes me learn about cancer faster." anyway why not skip subtract from room and just fill up the whole room with models? i mean subtract the room just gives an extra two posters. but you can fit in like 6 models or more?
The calculation is not as simple. it's less of 4 v 1 and more of 6 v 2. (two bookcase II sharing access area take the same space as 6 models.) now per tile you get (8/6 > 1) from book cases, but the catch is, you can't fill most rooms with 2x3 boxes, specially since you need access. Price wise though the models are better, as you account for.
I've learned by now that for any Game, there is always that ONE UA-camr, who will cheese the fuck outa it :P if it's Aspec for Stellaris, firespark81 for Conan Exiles or YOU for Two Point Hospital :P but fair enough, these tips are quite useful sometimes, so may the cheddar be with you!
These are guides to making the most efficient possible rooms, but it's not required to make a successful hospital in any way. Training has the biggest and most important effect early on in the game, where you cannot afford to have staff off in training for too long in any way. Personally, I never do some of the things shown in this like spam a ton of the same posters on every wall and build weird rooms. I've got all my hospitals to three stars and my rooms look very aesthetically pleasing. On the other hand, sometimes you might want to do this early on and then, when money isn't as much of an issue, build ideal aesthetically pleasing/realistic rooms once you've got yourself established. I personally recommend building the first training room in this video early, then once you've got a good hospital running deleting some of the gribbles etc to have a realistic looking room.
They recently released an update where you can save templates for use in other hospitals. You can't (at the moment) share/download them from other users but it will allow you to build the room once and save it so you can just copy/paste it in future hospitals.
Training room comes in either the 3rd or 4th mission. Once you unlock it, you can always revisit earlier hospitals that previously didn't have access to them and build them so you can train up staff.
Does the location of the gold certificate actually matter? i thought all it does is increase room prestige. having it nearer to actual person makes a difference ?
since he went over 100% it may be possible, but i guess the room will be quite big. there is no practical reason to do 1day training tho^^ that room right here should be fast enough.
Have you done any testing to see if the +% learning speed has diminishing returns or a cap with a certain amount of an item present? I suspect that it’s in the code but I have no proof at this time
I haven't taken training % to it's logical conclusion, no. Past a certain point the cost and space requirements for such a room become so great that by the time you could afford it, you've essentially won the level already. The space invader at least has a place in a 2 star hospital where you still need to make the push to 3 but have the cash and training need for a more powerful training room.
There are some placement considerations that are relevant. That said, this is a slightly outdated video. I'll be doing a revamped training room/philosophy video soon.
Bio 101 in college is as much bio as I've had. The design is purely accidental. Though now that you mention it, it wouldn't be a bad design for a research room with lots of servers where, like in mitochondria, heat is a concern.
I found that by building a 3x3, placing the lecturn in the utmost corner (of the same wall as the door), you can rotate the chairs [like you did in your sawtooth fracture ward] around the lecturn. I managed to fit approx 40-50 anatomy models in the remaining space and with the posters got my room to a boosted 60% training speed.
On topic about the whole series: Pinstar, you're a legend. You've blown my mind to simple things that have been under our noses this whole time and you've helped me [and many others] gain better efficiency and greater joy out of our hospitals! Thank you for this series, it has been more than helpful!
I feel like the "Space Invader" design would work well for the wave levels when time is extremely tight.
Love the name 'space invader' for the shape. :D
i had a nice laugh when he said this is an ugly mess of a room :D thanks for all the great tips
You don't need to worry about students taking their seats or even the teacher going to the lectern. Training begins as soon as the student and teacher are in the room. You can verify this by watching a student's progress.
Also to speed up training, manually pickup the students and teacher and drop them in the training room. Obviously you can only pick up the teacher if one of your own staff is doing the teaching. When you have a late game expensive training room it will often be in another plot and the majority of the training time is actually the time it takes for the teacher/student to get to the room
sorry to be so offtopic but does any of you know a tool to get back into an instagram account??
I somehow forgot the login password. I love any tips you can offer me.
@Alijah Oscar instablaster =)
@Maximiliano Erik I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm trying it out now.
I see it takes a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
@Maximiliano Erik it did the trick and I finally got access to my account again. I am so happy:D
Thank you so much you really help me out !
@Alijah Oscar glad I could help :D
With removing the spaces, one space gets you 6% increase from the posters, but if you kept the space and are able to pack 4 bookshelves in the same space without pathing issues, that would be 10%. Will be fun to try, thanks for putting this out there.
Noticed that too. This is more for show and idea sparking I assume as opposed to optimal space usage
I like your videos and I take a few tips with me, but I enjoy making things a little more realistic at the cost of max out come.. just dont like radiators to be in the middle of the room XD
OneOfTheNobodies yeah I do the same. My suggestion to pinstar for maximizing content is to also offer designs that balance power gaming and aesthetics. That would be an interesting series too
Yes! Agree on all of that. VEERY helpful nonetheless, thank you, pinstar!
Good stuff on the room shape for the Space Invaders training room. Really maximizes the number of posters that can be placed.
When it comes to the other bonuses, I prefer anatomy models over bookshelves. For the size and money, it's more efficient to cram as many as possible than it is to place bookshelves, not to mention not needing to worry about pathing issues. They along with the posters provide attractiveness as well, so there's no need for Gold Star Awards.
The only benefit I see the Bookshelves having is in your build from your other video: the Oklahoma Training Room. It makes entry and exit more efficient to line the hallway with bookshelves than with anatomy models.
If there was a job for naming everything on earth I would want pinstar to have that job.
Thanks so much for this video... Would love to see your take on a psychiatry room.
Space invader is a genius idea!
Helpful as always! Thank you 😊
For your first design, placing the door in the corner makes you lose one wall "sub-section" , if you put the door in the middle, you should be able to fit 2 more posters (moving things inside to adjust should not be a problem since you have space in this design).
i did some test, and i found that anatomy model take up the same space overall as the bookcase II for the same amount of +%training (i mean you can fit 4 anatomy model in the same space a bookcase II take) but it cost 200$ less per +1% training and you dont have to worry about people being able to access them. did you try this ?
Btw it often look ugly, i imagine student being surrounded by fake corpse for their studies, must give the chills.
you can then place the bookcases across the desks where students do sitting animation the same way you can double down on the medicine cabinets
It's like "oh man these fake bodies makes me learn about cancer faster."
anyway why not skip subtract from room and just fill up the whole room with models?
i mean subtract the room just gives an extra two posters. but you can fit in like 6 models or more?
The calculation is not as simple. it's less of 4 v 1 and more of 6 v 2. (two bookcase II sharing access area take the same space as 6 models.) now per tile you get (8/6 > 1) from book cases, but the catch is, you can't fill most rooms with 2x3 boxes, specially since you need access. Price wise though the models are better, as you account for.
... it DOES look like a space invader! :D
Out of the world, this one LOLOL
You're becoming a daily stop Pinstar.
can you do one early game efficient one and then aesthatic one for later. You are the best!! :D
any plans for a research room video in the works?
Have a really good layout for a GD office I call the Introverts Diagnostics if your open to receiving steam pics
Thay like to sit in desk facing away from the lectern
Innovative but aesthetically I hate this :D Gonna pretend the effects don't stack!
"Function has a form all its own." :)
I've learned by now that for any Game, there is always that ONE UA-camr, who will cheese the fuck outa it :P if it's Aspec for Stellaris, firespark81 for Conan Exiles or YOU for Two Point Hospital :P but fair enough, these tips are quite useful sometimes, so may the cheddar be with you!
Interesting. However, I'm really hoping that this isn't how I need to build rooms.
These are guides to making the most efficient possible rooms, but it's not required to make a successful hospital in any way. Training has the biggest and most important effect early on in the game, where you cannot afford to have staff off in training for too long in any way. Personally, I never do some of the things shown in this like spam a ton of the same posters on every wall and build weird rooms. I've got all my hospitals to three stars and my rooms look very aesthetically pleasing.
On the other hand, sometimes you might want to do this early on and then, when money isn't as much of an issue, build ideal aesthetically pleasing/realistic rooms once you've got yourself established. I personally recommend building the first training room in this video early, then once you've got a good hospital running deleting some of the gribbles etc to have a realistic looking room.
It is very annoyng to place rooms and items everytime. Thay should put some saved room to place anytime.
They recently released an update where you can save templates for use in other hospitals. You can't (at the moment) share/download them from other users but it will allow you to build the room once and save it so you can just copy/paste it in future hospitals.
@@Pinstar This is great. Thanks for letting me know.
When do you get these rooms in the game?
Training room comes in either the 3rd or 4th mission. Once you unlock it, you can always revisit earlier hospitals that previously didn't have access to them and build them so you can train up staff.
@@Pinstar
Thank you for your help.
Does the location of the gold certificate actually matter? i thought all it does is increase room prestige. having it nearer to actual person makes a difference ?
Gold Star Awards also give a little bit attractiveness. Not much though, so having them close to a person is kind of mandatory.
@@ArchosMH is there any source to the algorithm that decides proximity to people affects attractiveness?
Is there a cap to training speed and day required to train someone ? Can i build a room that can train anyone in just 1 day ?
since he went over 100% it may be possible, but i guess the room will be quite big.
there is no practical reason to do 1day training tho^^ that room right here should be fast enough.
the fastest i got was 2 days
잼있는세끼 how big is the room and how much it cost?
i think it was about $300k
Have you done any testing to see if the +% learning speed has diminishing returns or a cap with a certain amount of an item present? I suspect that it’s in the code but I have no proof at this time
I haven't taken training % to it's logical conclusion, no. Past a certain point the cost and space requirements for such a room become so great that by the time you could afford it, you've essentially won the level already. The space invader at least has a place in a 2 star hospital where you still need to make the push to 3 but have the cash and training need for a more powerful training room.
But we are not dont yet!
STICK ALL THE POSTER IN THE LECTURE TO BRAIN WASH
You mention stuff that are completely unsessery like the award next to ur students and the place of the lecture and desks dose not matter
There are some placement considerations that are relevant. That said, this is a slightly outdated video. I'll be doing a revamped training room/philosophy video soon.
No
Swish!
I get you're trying to get the % up on everything. but it's not very nice to look at
Why train Pinstar if you can load a large GP's office with more than 100 Medical cabinets? Which cheat is better?
Badaboom Badabing* :D
I personally don't like min-maxing this game.
The rooms just look too ugly to me.
are you a biologist, this is like a mitochondria. :)
Bio 101 in college is as much bio as I've had. The design is purely accidental. Though now that you mention it, it wouldn't be a bad design for a research room with lots of servers where, like in mitochondria, heat is a concern.
Sega, please, nerf these things.... xD
Insanely stupid 😂