Quad Cortex VS Soldano SLO! (Model & Capture)
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- Опубліковано 6 тра 2024
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Thanks for watching my comparison video of the Neural DSP Quad Cortex's Solo 100 Lead amp model and capture vs the Soldano SLO30 tube amplifier. Let me know your thoughts in the comments below! Cheers!
Helix/HX Stomp vs Soldano SLO 30: • Line 6 Helix/Stomp VS ...
Gear used in this video:
- ESP LTD Phoenix Black Metal (Fishman Fluence Modern)
- Neural DSP Quad Cortex
- Soldano SLO 30
- ML Drums by ML Sound Lab
- Cubase 13 Pro
- OwnHammer Impulse Responses
- RedSeven Amplification Amp Central reactive load
- Klotz Cables & DI Box
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What do you guys think?
Niiice job!!! Pleeease upload to Cortex Cloud 🙏
does the quad cortex have a Traynor YBA300 model ? I want to hear what a guitar sounds like through that, into a wall of 4x12s
I mean the digital stuff should focus on the termonicly impractical while they are at it.
Crazy thought: Slo 30, vs Qc, vs Neural SLO plugin, vs SLO preamp pedal. The SLOfight!!!
Would you mind sharing the SLO capture on CORTEX CLOUD? It sounds gggggrrreat!!!
You create such good riffs that I think you should write your own songs and release an instrumental album. You have plenty of talent for that my friend!!!!
A sounded a bit better and b sounds a bit boxy in some places but the difference was quite subtle in the mix.
Immediately A. So huge difference. And I’m listening on mono smartphone speaker
Once the PCOM launches it would be cool to see an updated video of this with the SLO 100 X 😎
Love my SLO 30! I have the Mr. Scary mod in mine which tightens it up incredibly well with the added gain stage. I did a few captures of it with my quad cortex and could not get it sounding right. I have a tonex one pedal ordered which I am excited to record some captures with. In my opinion, the tonex captures amps incredibly accurately. Great video, man!
Damn, that Soldano sounded really good. Never really listened to them . Thanks for all your content . Super informative 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Great job!!! 🤟🏻🔥 Please make ‘em also for Tonex and NAM!!!
Great comparison! The model really didnt sound great but the capture was very very close. Really looking forward to a comparison vs the Fractal stuff
There are differences, but they are close enough that it would be hard to tell in a mix or in a live setting with a band. The QC sounds close enough 90% of the time
There are definitely people claiming they hear things that may or may not be present. I’d be interested to see an EQ analyzer to show the actual frequencies variables if indeed they are present.
That being said both sound incredible and with some tweaking both could be identical.
idk what you're talking about. A clearly has more scrongle to it, especially with the scringo turned up it sounds extra bonkly.
@@Shaqiliciouss indubitably
It would be interesting to hear your opinion on all major profilers today: TONEX, QC and Kemper or even directly compare them head to head
Even on my s21fe i hear diffrence 😮 but your capture Woooooooo❤❤❤i Love It!
I didn't try and guess which was which, but both times I preferred the actual amp. Have you ever run a capture through a power amp into one of your actual cabs? I do that pretty often and it sounds fantastic (if the capture is good). End of the day, I still prefer my amps but I enjoy the heck out of my QC as well. Fun vid, thanks for sharing!
Weird, I actually preferred the QC in the mix. Sounded more dynamic somehow (don’t @ me on this). Preferred the Soldano solo, though.
Every time you do these I pick the real amp in the blind test. This is why I haven’t bought a modeller yet. I think the complexity of the dynamics in the low end, as well as the harmonics in the high frequencies are always a tell. It’s like they just fall 5% short.
Still, great tools though. Thanks for the shootout.
The captures were much closer, but I expected as much. Aren't there two different SLO 100 Lead models in the QC, tho? I think they're switchable.
The SLO is my all time favorite amp. I've owned two original (Pre BAD) and one MKII.... There's something just missing with the QC SLO model. I know they have updated it since the QC launch.. but it's still does not sound or feel like a SLO. Not bashing the QC as some of the other models are actually great. The QC SLO is missing some sizzle and sag.
For anyone looking for amazing SLO sound on the QC, look at Amalgam captures. They are the closest I've found.
Can you share the capture?, amazin video cheers!💪🏻💪🏻
Great video as always but the main difference is you're hearing the soldano from real cab but you need power amp for quad cortex (tonex, helix etc).
Can you also compare Soldano VS Quad cortex, when Soldano SLO-100 X is possible to be used in Quad Cortex later on?
I guessed that totally right. The Cortex tends to add something gravely to the tone. At least, that's how I think of it.
There is just a life to the actual amp that the core doesn’t have. The word sizzle that John said fit perfect. It actual was a great example of what something digital sounds like. It doesn’t sound bad and although I don’t know the price of a core if it fell beneath a grand I think it would be amazing for practice (especially when you want to preserve those ears). 👂
Learn a lot from amplis following you, and identify with your sound approach. Have you tried Tonocracy?
I think they capture that vibe very well too...
I have not
You should. The modelling is incredible, but it also loads NAM captures @@SonicDriveStudio
@@SonicDriveStudioand now it's free
In the isolated videos I liked the Slo slightly more but in the full mix I couldn't tell them apart at least not with the same set of in-ear headphones that I have for everyday use
Okay so I'm at 4:12 now and before I watch further heres my thought: There is definitely a difference, I would say A is the SLO and B is the QC. A is a bit smoother and more open in the highest top, the QC adds almost in every comparison I watched a bit of nasty high end at maybe 6-8k I'd guess. And on the chugging B sounds kind of weird compared to A, like a bit buzzy and weirdly compressed, it sounds like it falls apart a bit on the palm muting. I definetly prefer A in this video.
Okay turns out i was right on the first test, here's my guess on the 2nd:
This time its way closer and harder, but I think on A you can hear a little more compression on the low chugging note, which blooms through out that one part where it's almost isolated (7:25). So I would say A is the QC, B is the SLO. But it's really hairsplitting at this point, they are really really close now.
Okay turns out i was wrong on the second test :D, well shows how close they are I guess.
Please make ABCD with ToneX/QC/Nam :)❤
Can you upload it on the cloud as well?
Why no one in the cloud capture modulation pedals ?
I guessed every time. A digital amplifier model always sounds different in the low and high frequencies.
Neural SLO plugin vs one of these two? Or both? Far more people use the plugin (as it's cheaper, especially during the last week).. it'd be nice to know where it stacks up. The amp will obviously always reign supreme. But QC model, vs plugin vs your capture would be interesting..
Can you please upload the capture.
A real SLO is a bucket list amp for me. I love their sound so much
You deserve it
@3:53, when you palm mute, that crackle in the low end (if thats even a way of describing it) sounds very "tube" like, on the capture, it sounds far more narrow and "digital" for lack of better terms.
That crackle sound better from the amp.
Much closer on the second round.
The dynamic range reduction of the captures cause that. That is the one huge shortcoming of the Neural, is that its captures are only a little better than the Kemper in terms of dynamic range and freq response. Things like Tonex and especially NAM are light years beyond that now, and NAM is a pretty fair step above Tonex even. Same with the Headrush, their captures are on par with Neural. If IK would just come out with an Amplitube/Tonex all in one pedal they would start killing it. With that said, the HX stomp, and two a Tonex pedal could replace an entire rig, at a pretty good price point. Or one could get an opensource pedal with NAM. Otherwise, we should just be thankful that Neural was the first outside of Kemper to offer this technology at a level you could use it live.
I guessed right the first time. I thought the low end in A was more real, more dynamic in a way, while B was more stable, like every chug sounded exactly the same. I might be wrong with my observations (I've played with but never had tube amps) but that's what I thought when I listened to the first test. Second time around I was lost. Even the soloed guitars sounded almost exactly the same to me. Yet again, the low end thing was still kinda noticeable for me anyways.
First test A had a little more pleasing presence boost but B wasn’t bad. Second test they were too close to call, with the reveal I thought I preferred the amp but that may just have been listening with my eyes.
IMO the model could have been dialled closer to the real amp, but the real amp certainly sounded better.
With the capture, it was close but the capture had slightly less gain and dynamics to me and just sounded a little flatter.
Quad Cortex VS Soldano SLO VS Tonex it would be more interesting.
The helix one was closer to the amp than the quad cortex and for me sounds better😁
I could tell the real amp by how it sounded when the song played the riff on the higher strings. Real SLO has this nice clarity to it.
in the first test you the QC has the presence in half, the amp was 3/4, that is very noticeable. Tha's a big difference. The EQ is different too, so what's the deal with a comparison if you are not using the same parameters
The parameters simply don't sound or react the same. Believe me, I tried all sorts of different settings
Hmmm...for me the difference was very little in the full mix but huge when it was isolated.
Try it with neural amp modeler
Sound Great (B) cortex like more
I couldn’t tell the difference in the mix. But isolated, you can hear it.
If you didn't reveal what was what most people would fail to guess right, specially in a mix. It's all sounds good, modeler amps these days are so good in a live setting or recording you can't really tell difference. People who say they can ... They just think they can
They not only sounded almost identical, but if anything the model sounded better in the first comparison. Second part also almost identical, A was only slightly better.
The slo in the qc is terrible but the plugin sounds great so cant wait til its ported with pcom
Totally agree with this. The SLO model in the QC is practically unsuable!
@wingee just all high end and fizzy
The plugin is nice and thick
I really dont get why they are so hit and miss with their modelling in the qc
Some models are great others are dire
Now the big question is “HX SLO or QC SLO?”
If the character is there, its good enough for me.. Im not a tonesnob, if it sounds good, it is good!
Make the same test with 2-3 heads, and its sonic difference between them...
i got it right what i noticed watching vids like this is that the ir are dark with most clone plug ins ir
Real Amp vs Ampsim - Real Wins (more tight and defined sound), Real Amp vs QC Capture - well, I must say that I prefer more QC Capture (more tight and defined sound) :D At the end maybe i just prefer more tight defined sound hahaha.
I felt like the amp was more tight tbh, also in terms of the feel
I hear much diffrence in the mutes. in A there are more high freq and sound as better transients. i like sound of original A more
2 . in the second test i hear no diffrence
The QC model sounds really weird. Flubby, boxy, muffled, compressed, it just doesn't even hold a candle to the amp. I could hear the difference immediately, even in the mix.
I think the Helix fared much better in the comparison a couple of months back.
The SLO X plugin amp model is superior to the QC model. You should have included that in your comparison.
I don't own it. I've already spent a lot of money on the QC. Not going to spend more just so I can get the "more accurate" NDSP tones
@@SonicDriveStudioWell to be fair I’m sure you’ll be doing videos on the plugins when they are released on the QC, which is only the “X” versions. Grab a few while they’re on sale!
@@SonicDriveStudio I’m assuming you used the RedSeven to make the capture? I’ve been looking at getting that loadbox so can we try your profile? 😎
A and b on the capture sound just a little bit different because the quad cortex is not great at capturing fuzz sounds. The soldano is about 70% fuzz. Any other ant be capture that the quad cortex would be almost identical
Sounds same to me lol
There is a 15-20% difference. The amp is more alive, full and less dull.
How is it fair to compare a model of a different amp? 🤔
It makes sense that the older version of the slo shine less in the high end frequencies
Amp has more definition in low and highs, more life, but QC is almost there...90%
B is the quad cortex.
0:58 is that why the quad cortex soldano sounds like s***? That makes perfect sense. I own a quad cortex and the soldano 100 that came pre-packed is the worst sounding amp I have ever heard in my life. There's nothing I can do to make it sound good.
Here’s where I have a problem with these types of comparisons - in an isolated A/B context, yeah, the tube amp is nearly always going to out itself just because of the tone and simplicity of the circuit. As viewers and tone chasers, though, we can easily be led like sheep to believe that nothing by the real thing will do or ever be good enough. For mypurposes, with multiple amp layers, those extreme subtleties start to disappear. Yeah, is good enough for my needs, and I’ve vowed to never spend $3k+ on an amp I don’t need again. I have more than enough options, and much more altruistic things I could do with that kind of money. Don’t be sheep, people
It's not about being sheep. People are capable of forming their own opinions based on whatever is presented here
Oh boy. Guess which one is real and which one is modeler. I always do so terrible at this game.
B is the real amp
A is qc
First! 🫶🏻
A real amp B QC
QC sounds tighter but really there is no difference.
I thought SLO sounded better on its own but the QC sounded better in the mix