It's also the double standard. The MSM can say someone was murder or sexually assaulted, and they'll be followed up with a BMW ad. Meanwhile the plebs say it, and its not advertiser friendly.
Well, I totally get you BUT There is this fun strategy in business that is often times described as 'never change a running system' The Paul's did their video about the suicide forest Now youtube heavily checks what is getting popular Because saying a few edgy words is not an issue, but the kind of message they send or the context can be. Hear me out You are a big-ish store in your area and think about doing youthbe ads Well you also suddenly realize... huh my god, what if people see my ad in a video talking about how great the columbine shooter was That isn't a connection anyone wants to have with their brand or store I think it is absurd Wrong even what is being done to communication and serious topics But weirdly enough this is terrible but also better then anything I guessed would happen You can still be edgy and get adds Just avoid certain words Descriptions are still fine Euphemism are fine aswell I do not have hope for younger children But anyone above like 18 is VERY much aware of what things are And censorship really isn't new It's terrible But nothing new
especially when you consider MSM has blood on their hands on many occasions, people died because of their propaganda and riling up people NSNBC even had to defend itselfi ncourt under the premise of it being objectively reasonable they are entertainment not deemed news basically "we are not credible, please don't hold us accountable for the objective untruths we have spread"
I had to use that bc UA-cam unironically blacklisted a post I made using the real term. I never monetizedy my channel, it's just nice to have people see the stuff you put out
Incredibly cathartic to finally see someone talk about this. Content on UA-cam has become so watered down and safe that even channels I used to love feel more like scripted robotic imitations of who they used to be.
And depending on the circles you travel in, you _still_ get demonetized! I've found that it's largely a case of not wanting to give the censors any excuse. There's differential enforcement on content regulation. We all know it. You'd have to be _high_ to not realize what's going on. The point of the self-censorship is so that you can go "hey, this one of mine got hit, too. But I didn't even use any f-words in this one. What's up with that?" With luck, it opens people's eyes to the brazen madness. There is no saving the system, but perhaps some of the people can be reached. The particularly purposeful will even invoke the memey way of dancing around certain words to make a point. That's how "Canadian healthcare" became a meme. If it sounds twisted and inhuman... that's the point. Censorship is dehumanizing, and you _will_ listen to it, and you will _keep_ listening to it until the end of our days on this unlife ball because some people are rightfully afraid that you'll forget. We want you to remember that cringe of hearing "unalive" or references to "the forever box." Some people want that to be the future, and they will try to convince you that _that_ way is better. It's not just demonetization, either. Some channels even get outright strikes and their stuff gets removed, even if they're following fair use to the letter, just because they happened to be critical of something that The Powers That Be have a lot of money invested in.
Yeah, it’d be nice if we could stop coddling the average person. It’s a strange thing to tell grown adults “You can’t use this word or it might make someone upsetti spaghetti” I find it crazy YT ended up like this, but since they were bought by google don’t expect them to listen.
What's crazy to me is that the first time I heard the phrase "graped" was the Whitest Kids U Know sketch, "The Grapist." It was literally a joke about trying to have really fucked up themes in kids juice box advertising. Now younger people are saying it unironically.
I personally agree with your statement, there’s a couple of UA-camrs that cover cold cases, and heavy topics yet they say graped, and unalived and it always takes me out. It makes me feel like they don’t even take the topic seriously. It’s understandable for new upcoming UA-cam channels to do this especially if they NEED the revenue, and the views. But if your like this person with millions or hundreds of thousands of subs then take it on the chin. It especially doesn’t make sense when they also have a brand of their own that’s doing more than fine. But yes I think it’s really a strange decision to do and it’s just unnecessary.
It's so annoying in a TRUE CRIME documentary when the narrator uses words like "unalive" when describing a horrific murder. The news isn't going report that a vehicle oopsie unalived 3 people, it's going to report "3 Deaths in Fatal Car Crash". You are 1000% on-point with this video, Chris.
👏 King Chris. Ive been saying this, FOR YEARS. *Dont let corporations socially engineer you!!!* We are living in Demolition Man, and I hate it. I am so disappointed youtubers didnt start leaving when this became the rules a few years ago.
Hey man, just wanted to say that my girlfriend and I would watch your videos together in college when we ate lunch together and it made for some sweet memories in our early relationship. We're married now and I started playing your last video in our lovely home and her ears perked up and she was like, "is that Chris Raygun???" and the memories came flooding back. We're both happy you're hanging in there and hope you know that with all the edgy videos you've made, you've actually made at least two people really happy and been a positive experience and we hope you're doing well. So while there can be some doom and gloom in your content, you've added some light and happiness to the world through this crazy internet and I hope that you know that from many fans before and after us.
Technically, UA-cam has competitors. Behold the true power of the word technically. The public square is owned and will continue to be owned by people who aren't us, whose values and wants do not overlap with ours.
I dont see the issue with “SA”, its just the initials of the actual words. This has been a thing forever, we use “CP” all the time. But shit like “graped” and “unalived” piss me off. Its so unserious and brainrotten. But letting big corpos dictate our speech with double standards is pathetic. What topics we can discuss should be decided socially, not by the distant overlords who kowtow to shitty, oversexualized and misleading advertisers but will shoot down anything remotely “explicit” As with many things in life, the problem is and always was capitalism and peoples’ complacency with it
My biggest problem with saying "SA" is that it's not unambiguous. If you're talking about sexual assault, it's not a topic you can afford to be ambiguous about. Hell, I sat through a bunch of people talking about how they'd developed "ED" after being SAed and I went for 10 minutes thinking they had erectile disfunction until context clues let me know they all had an eating disorder.
I watch a Twitch Streamer that regularly talks about this issue. He called it "Algorithm Approved Censorspeak" and I've been calling it that ever since. It's definitely an issue.
Orwell noted that one of the best ways to control people was to limit their speech, and the prime example was the removal of negative words - so nothing is "bad", it's just "ungood" (which by it's makeup of two negative/positive words means it's meaning is subconsciously more neutral than bad). By removing the impact of proper negative language you neuter the conversation before it begins.
Was looking for the Orwell comment. I loved his use of the word "rectify" when talking about forgery and retroactively changing history. The records were "rectified". Current linguistic trends are double-ungood for real.
I remember there was some museum that described Kurt Cobain "unaliving" himself and then doubling down about how the language is about "protecting the feelings of marginalized communities" and not an attempt to get past censors.
It’s even worse when history channels, such as my personal favorite, Time Ghost History, is demonitized because they discuss the history of genocide and war crimes of the 20th century. Not PROMOTING it, but DISCUSSING and, by the end of the video, CONDEMNING it.
They're using language that the youtube algorithm won't instantly flag and strike down their channel. Remember youtube refuses to allow anything approaching free speech on its website.
That's probably why some channels have gone so far as to whenever discussing such topics, as to immediately condemn it in the most obnoxiously condescending manner. No crap. The fact they feel they even have to do so is itself pretty insulting, but here we are.
It isn't just the ding to ad revenue on one video. It's the downstream effects of getting downranked in the algorithm. Many of the gun-tuber channels have been permanently throttled because of the content they post. Also, it makes a big difference if UA-cam is your primary source of income or not. There are plenty of people out there doing exactly as you suggest. You don't see those channels because they get downranked in the algorithm.
Yes, Chris. Self-censorship is a feature, not a bug, of political correctness. Carlin was 100% correct when he said it was “fascism disguised as good manners.”
I've personally seen a trend that every sociopathic and psychopathic entity will first try to sterilize language and conversations of humanity so they people can't talk about their humanity anymore, and then, when they're psychologically isolated and emotionally unstable, they start exploiting the shit out of them. It's frustrating how common this is nowadays.
@@thomgizziz your examples are all outside of the government except the proposals which are mostly brought up and passed in majority blue areas,and the dems are very much the party of big government at the moment. Plus as Americans I can hope that we value our freedom of speech highly due to it being in our constitution
@@BurghezulDjentilomThese guys are good friends so if you dont like Actmans opinions, you'd hate to find out what Chris believes. Please unsubscribe fast!
Imagine reaching the point where you feel like you have to take your own life, and from the afterlife seeing some 15 year old have an AI voice describe you as "unaliving"
This stuff annoys me to no end. I'm so tired of all of the censorship that is happening with the modern internet. It just feels like everything is becoming sterilized in hopes of achieving some grand "utopian" vision
I absolutely agree. The amount of paranoia people have about angering the algorithm is making me insane. I am just unable to take someone's words seriously when they are supposedly talking about something serious and they are using random codewords of fruits and whatnot.
The one that gets me is "unironically " we've newspeaked the concept of sincerity out of language and framed irony as the default way to engage witn something. Now instead of being "sincere " people are being "not ironic " I hate it so much
True. Saying "unironically" as a description of something is meant to be expressed as "not taken as a joke", "not sarcastic", or literally "not ironic". The rampant stupidity causing the degradation of language needs to be stopped.
the weird thing about that is that irony went back to its original definition, rather than the one popular when I was a kid, just "a funny coincidence" So on one hand yeah people are overdoing it, but I think saying 'unironically' to mean 'genuinely' is better than what I always used to hear, which was 'literally'
I can't complain about that one in the slightest. I've never heard anyone use it in any context other than mocking a completely batshit crazy idea/lie which in all ordinary circumstances would have to be said ironically with comedic intent.
Censorship is evil. Period. Self-censorship is the worst kind of censorship there is. Back when the religious right (thought) they had control of culture, they demanded that everybody censor themselves. Everybody rightfully told them to screw themselves. Now, when the current language police do it, everybody seems so quick to happily comply. It makes me sick to my stomach.
I'm so glad someone else is talking about this. The weird censorship of more serious topics to appease algorithms and keep videos from being demonetized or flagged has always kinda rubbed me the wrong way. I get that people want to make money off of the content they make and I fully believe they should be allowed to but these are topics that should be handled seriously and using flowery euphemisms to avoid directly mentioning them lessens the seriousness of those topics. I've seen people use terms like "unalive" "self termination" "self deletion" and "slide into the sewer" when referring to suicide and it almost feels disrespectful. I don't think the issue rest solely on content creators though, the fact that sites like UA-cam and TikTok incentivize doing this by punishing creators who don't is honestly even worse. Not being able to talk openly about these types of serious topics without risk of having your video demonetized, flagged, or even taken down is insanely counterproductive. These are things that should be talked about and should be talked about very openly and transparently. I don't understand why companies like UA-cam and TikTok feel the need to forcibly make it harder to talk about these kinds of serious issues to appear more advertiser friendly when most of the time, these videos are just recounting events that happened in real life. This gross forced PG-ification of the internet is truly only going to result in negative consequences imo.
Honestly, imo it's not even a "feels like it's disrespectful", it just is. If I survived a rape or lost a loved one to suicide, I would be beyond livid if someone said "grape" or "sewerslide". Like, it would take all of my power to not just spew an unbridled shitstorm of vitriol at them. It's so oblivious and discounting.
It's because the playing field is so insanely unreasonable. News media, television, music, and film are held to COMPLETELY different standards, even on the same platform. You can't talk about REAL events - but you can buy a song about murder for $0.99.
Yeah this video made me realize that if content creators are going out of their way to use these flowery terms, then they're prioritizing the desires of the algorithm instead of the severity of the topic - ergo, prioritizing profit over the topic itself. Which is kinda fucked up
@@SubberCommentator900 No, most of them need to make money because it's their jobs. They can't choose to sewerslide their channels just because you're offended that SOMEONE ELSE won't let them use the real ones.
I'm not sure about that with the responsibility. Like Chris said, the amount of cash made despite the dings from mentioning these words is supplementary at best. Your channel will not tank nor will it suddenly succeed depending on your use of the terminology. All it does is enhance an already existing output. As a result, I have to face the obvious: As a true crime fan, I acknowledge that 90% of people who claim to be content creators for the genre are essentially just parasites unwilling to risk talking about the seriousness of the topic. The involvement with things like true crime comes from remembrance. When you start scrubbing away remembrance because you want, again, WANT an extra $150 at the end of the month does have to make you a bit scum, no matter who's offering you the cursed chalice. Scold and torch corpos all you like and I'll honestly support you, but to pretend that somehow people are relieved of responsibility because 'oooo money'? I'm sorry, but is the artistic form in general so godfuck corroded thanks to money? Ultimately, we both agree. I just really hate the idea that people are exonerated of all blame simply because they were paid. The logical conclusion to that would simply make being a hitman legal. After all, there's the monetary incentive. When it comes to the hardtack, you don't NEED to talk about this on UA-cam or TikTok. If the focus is simply the money, then I have to refer to above. Talking about dead people should not be completely dependent on money, I'm sorry lmao
@@Y2KNW Elon just became a head of a brand new branch of the government and won't shut up about it! No one who makes a living making gate videos in Musk is gonna stop any time soon
Further to George Carlin's point about softening language, in the 1950s, the term most people used for pedophiles was "kiddy raper". Pretty unambiguous there. It's visceral and gets across the point very efficiently. Then "pedophile" became the commonly used term. While it is accurate, it also isn't as raw and brutal, which is why people (and I use that word in a purely biological sense) have started identifying themselves as pedophiles and trying to even further sanitize the language with the term "minor attracted person." We should bring back the term "kiddy raper"
"kiddy raper" doesn't quite sound right. it sounds more infantile and less pointed than "child rapist", which i would argue would be a better term. for instance, "watt walsh is a child rapist" sounds way more pointed than "matt walsh is a kiddy raper."
No, what happened was media proliferated the "pedo panic" in the 80s-90s, erroneously conflating "pedophile" (refers solely to attraction) with "child molester" (an actual criminal act). In turn, prog creeps hijacked _that_ phenomenon to push their own "M.A.P." nonsense as part of a twisted attempt at legitimization. It's a whole different matter, where all the self-righteous "pedo hunter" twits helped create that sicko movement because they couldn't respect semantics. Great job, geniuses....
Not quite on that "person first" language yet, though, huh? Instead of "minor attracted person," i think the fully politically correct name would be "person attracted to minors"
Anyone who unironically uses the word "unalive" loses most of any respect I may have had for them, instantly. If you're not gonna live in the real world and give dark or sensitive topics the respect they deserve when it's called for, then you're not worth anybody's time.
@@ricardokojin7 Yeah, my comments that don't use any swears or the serious words in this video have been deleted. Once my comment disappeared, so I edited it, posted it again 1 hour later, and 1 more hour wrote "UA-cam sent my other comment to the shadow realm so I edited it and sent it again, lmk if you don't see it." Both of those were deleted. Is "shadow realm" too explicit?! No one tell 4Kids. And some other comments on the channel did work, so I wasn't blocked. At this point I just copy all of my comments into a temporary file so that I don't have to rewrite them if they're sent to the "shad0w r3alm" again.
I don't know if it's slang or language softening, but there was one week where UA-cam showed me almost nothing but thumbnails with the word "cooked" in it. Like, "They're cooked" (not related to food).
Using those fake terms, for such serious issues, is offensive, demeaning, and patronising towards the actual victims and family members of "unlived" or "graped" victims! Having to use such ridiculous words diminishes the act and seriousness of the situation! Because it changes absolutely nothing, we still understand the concept of the word! It's all under the disguise of not offending or causing additional suffering to the victims or people in general, a play pretence...I'm actually getting angry just talking about! It's all fake! We're made to be fake! And we're complying, patting our back, pretending we're good people if don't mention those words! "We're helping"! We're in Idicracy!
I couldn't agree more. It's bothered the hell out of me, ever since everyone stopped swearing on UA-cam. I liked that people swore, not because of some sort of immature sense of humour, but because people were being real, and it felt like I was being respected, instead of patronised. And remember when whenever anyone ever even mentioned suicide, they'd throw up links and the phone number of a crisis line? But now apparently it's more important to be non-controversial enough that coca cola will still advertise on your videos. And we all know that ads aren't endorsements, old media just made up a controversy out of whole cloth as an attack on new media. Well, well done, you wrecked it for everyone.
I feel like the valid frustration might be misplaced. Like yeah, it can be weird to hear very serious topics be spoken about with some stranger euphemisms, but at the end of the day creators aren’t the ones dictating the rules. Like if I’m a small creator trying to grow, I’m not going to throw a wrench at myself by blatantly disregarding what yields success from the algorithm determining whether or not I grow - especially if it’s something you’re trying to do full-time. Definitely once you’ve “made it” I think you can afford to have more flexibility, but if you’re in a position where you don’t have patrons, you don’t have sponsorships, and your main goal is getting an audience, you’re only making an already steep climb all the steeper by not playing the game at least a little. The issue should be raised with companies like UA-cam, TikTok, etc. who are making the rules in the first place rather than the creators who are punished for not following them.
Hey great video, this is especially a topic that I think is important to discuss and hear. Allowing big corporations to dictate how we talk is ridiculous and words like "unalive" make death seem less serious and almost silly, and treat it with very little respect. No one would use those words in a serious conversation but we have to now because of social media algorithms. It just isn't right. Also, two videos in one week, that is great. Glad to see you back!
Hey, the ghost of Chris Ray Gun past is back. You are correct if you're going to talk about serious topics you should treat them seriously not say "graped drop the G" but I think there's a big component you may be missing here. Saying any of these words on their own doesn't get you demonetized. I talk about crime all the time, rapes, murders, etc. & I don't get demonetized for not sanitizing language. I check the box for Adult Content, Firearms related if I even mention a gun, Violence, Sensitive events & Controversial issues & guess what, when you tell UA-cam the truth 99% of the time your fine. The language censorship is like that viral Facebook copyright post, it's dumb, doesn't do anything, yet people keep doing it because they see others do it
Imagine saying these terms to someone who actually lived through those experiences, it essentially cheapens their experiences because UA-cam thinks only kids watch them.
I still think the worst thing about it is that the motivation isn't even strictly financial. Demonitization actively suppresses your video in the algorithm, thus limiting how many people can will see the video, making the motivation for censoring yourself even stronger than it would be anyways
@@darilaho yeah and they're still hidden from feeds and those videos get shadow banned. You can have consistent 1mil views but if most those views are from things like the algorithm then you barely break the half way point.
it would be so simple if it was just about the money but UA-cam doesn't simply cut your funding, it cuts your visibility, and it does so selectively against "wrong-think" content and why shouldn't you get paid? why do youtubers have to self flagellate? while legacy media rolls in ad revenue
It isnt just about making money, this was touched on a while ago by a bunch of creators but the algorithms would literally not tell subscribers youve made the video altogether if specific flags get tripped, let alone show stuff to new people. Even in comment sections, sometimes you get you automodded off for simple "stuff", due to a channel being "isolated together for sickness". Im not kidding Ive tested this on a few channels and simple swearing, kid level insults, and random controversial words can make your comment vanish regardless of context.
Censorship offends me deeply. These sites are the new public square. The potential audience is unbeatable. There's no better place to educate, discuss, debate. But the public square is owned by people who aren't us, whose values and interests do not and will never coincide with our own. The plain fact of the matter is we have three choices: 1 Try to talk about these things in a mature way and get censored off the platform or demonetized to the point of quitting 2 Go elsewhere and give up the platform's entire potential audience, essentially equivalent to taking a vow of silence 3 Obey the algorithm sorcerers, reach at least some audience, and make at least some money
One of the worst parts to my understanding is that it has no real impact on the algorithm. True crime still doesn’t get monetized, so just say the goddamn words.
“We don’t do the thing because we only lose a few bucks! It’s pocket change to us. Just do the same and deal with the consequences that we never had to deal with while we were growing our channels!” It’s a little out of touch. Pretty much pulling up the ladder behind him.
A problem is that people are aping creators who self-censor, seemingly thinking it's just quirky language and not realizing why they are doing it, which is to make money from these massive corporations. So basically, we are giving these massive corporations the reigns on how people talk about certain topics.
I mean you can argue culture is always in some way influenced by large societal factors like corporations and media. Creative substitutions are funny but I think the bigger issues in those cases are the consistent replacement. Like when kids would say screw instead of fuck, we know what they are saying but they are censoring themselves enough to get away with it.
Not at all really. These corporations cant control how we talk about certain topics. They can only control what we cant say on THEIR platform IF we want to make money from it.
@@DLan720yeah, they're "platforms" when you want them to take accountability for their pokicies-but then they become "publishers" when you say something they don't like.
The main problem with this is we didn't really *give* them the reigns so much as they created/purchased ALL the reigns, we never had them in the first place. There is no where else to go that isn't owned by them, except X which still spawned a massive counter movement because someone dared to uncensor a social media site.
Gut feeling I agree. It santitizes what shouldn't be sanitized, and unconsciously transforms language to obfuscate (I'm Dutch and if I'm misspelling any of these words, i'm sorry ^^). Then again, I try to stay away from giving strong opinions about positions I'm not in, and I don't know what it's like to be a content creator, so I feel my opinion doesn't hold that much value here. But I wanted to be all supportive with a comment, so that's what this long-form shit is.
The thing that radicalized me was a TikToker talking about his sexual assault but he used mascara as a code word for sex, and a celebrity genuinely misunderstood & thought he got his eyes done without his consent. Then all of TikTok acted like the celebrity was an awful human being when she literally just didn't understand the code talk. It also creates a problem for content warnings, where if someone doesn't want to hear about sexual assault or suicide they can't filter those words. They have to keep up to date on whatever the new code words are, which is a Sisyphean task. No one has even bothered to keep track either. You just have to be there & recognize the context. It's hieroglyphic.
The infuriating thing to me is that it feels like human language is regressing more than evolving, and for what? So content mills can have a few extra pennies?
THANK YOU!! I despise people who use other people's trauma/death to make money ESPECIALLY sugar coating shit to increase their revenue. They're disgusting slime. If you're making money from this then at least tell it like it is. This shouldn't be treated as baby's first homicide!
Censorship has gotten so bad on UA-cam that it actually dissuades people from making content… I have another channel where I tell supposedly true scary stories and I find myself having to be careful with my language a lot out of fear that UA-cam won’t push my content in the algorithm due to it. Obviously if I were a bigger creator with a more guaranteed chance of getting viewers I wouldn’t care but this really hinders the creative process and the drive to create for smaller creators who put tons of work into their content and get no returns…
@@monkeyguy378 Well that’s just it. I do create content that I want to create, but it would be silly to say that people create content just for fun and they don’t want any returns from it. Simply put, we all make content and we hope that people will watch it and enjoy it, but the problem is when UA-cam goes out of its way to block certain content from being seen due to censorship reasons and just strictly because they deem it not profitable then that makes it harder for newer creators to feel a sense of motivation to continue to create when it gets them nowhere. This is not how it used to be back in the earlier days of UA-cam and that’s a big issue.
@monkeyguy378 While I get where you're coming from and kinda agree, at the same time I feel like wanting a little something for your time and effort is only normal. Especially if it's something you're trying to break into as a potential career.
I love that when father finally came back he decided to talk about an issue that's been personally bothering me for a long time now Personally I hope if anything unfortunate happens to me I hope it goes unrecorded and unnoticed I'd rather suffer in silence then line some douches pockets while using child playground words to describe what happened to me
Completely with you on this on the softening of language to persons and events that deserve the verbose gravity thats due both in serious situations and insults.
The thing I don't get is the people doing it think somehow the platform and algorithm won't figure out the new words? All it takes is one guy to open up a command prompt and add SA and PDFfile to the list, then bam you'll still get dinged.
And then we need to make up new lingo, and then that gets censored, and we have to ban together to find new lingo until that also gets censored. Or... and I know this is 'bannanas' - the other word is banned, but hear me out, we can just collectively agree that "censorship of harmless words is wrong."
You'd also think that maybe, just maybe that "in the land of the free and home of the brave," we wouldn't allow corporations to police harmless speech? Hopefully, the new administration will require corporations to follow all national laws.
@VariantAEC you seem passionate about this which is something I live to see If you want to see an extreme version of that go and look into the current issues of hongkong. The language of resistant people has genuinley evolved to a point where it's apperently incomprehensible for uninitiated people because they pack so much meaning into harmless everyday phrases to the point where a poster surfaced that tells you how to get an umbrella if it rains that contains a guide on how to check if someone is an undercover cop with literally no phrases that seem even slightly odd on a description on where to get umbrellas
The thing is Noone cares about wether we all know what it means The point is to make it sound more marketable, because the real words bring up to many bad emotions Noone wants to buy hello fresh when they are sad about a 12 year old boy being raped to death by his uncle But a lot of people don't mind doing that after learning about a child going into a forever sleep after a minor attracted family member suprise loved them to much. Of course it also has a fun side effect of polishing any agenda you like by making it so that only the group you disagree with is being targeted with the evil words But the group you like, even when they commit heinous acts gets the happy fun time words that make the brutality of their crimes seems so cute and silly
"Unalive" in particular is disgusting and dystopian as hell. It takes a serious, heavy topic like death and makes it clean and palatable: which is the exact opposite of how death should be treated. Plus, say what you will about most euphemisms, they're at least usually used for the supposed benefit of human victims. "Unalive," on the other hand, is 100% for the benefit of soulless advertisers and their literal robots. No human is helped by this, it's not even _supposed_ to heal any pain, it's just a system glitch that has somehow infected our common language.
i know it’s a dead horse to call modern day, orwellian but seriously getting rid of free speech for the sake of advertisements is actually dystopian, the way that the chinese people have to get around censorship is INSANE
Pretty sure this platform doesn't simply demonetize. It completely hides visibility. Chrissy's videos are in the shallows, nobody's trying to take away his channel.
Funny enough I learned this language from your advertiser friendly video in which you used the phrase "self forever-sleep", and I still say that to this day as I find it hilarious. But yes, I think its mondo cringe when I hear "unalive" on every video imaginable now.
What’s funny is I rewatched the video you did parodying this exact topic. Just reading the most vile news headlines and converting them to be ok for UA-cam algorithm
Hugely agree. The impact on language and culture that the algorithmic internet is having is really concerning to me. People, quite frankly, have no balls and cater to hypersensitivity at the cost of reality. Since I have parents who went through deeply traumatic shit and both have PTSD as a result, it makes me very unhappy to see.
Chris I have had comments responses deleted and unreadable for using words IN THE COMMENT SECTION. You have to use these methods or the Algorithm won't even allow you to debate
Happens to me all the time. The worst part is there's no warnings or notifications that your posts get censored. So you can write something out and post it, and never even know that it vanished or why, save for the fact that you're still permanently subscribed to the comment thread and will get notified every time there's a comment in the thread, even though you can see your comment is missing. Truly the youtube comment section experience.
@@jormilos At this point I'm convinced that I'm on the platform's naughty list. I made a comment about a particular religious and ethnic group being targeted for harassment in a particular way in the past and half of all comments I've made since then have been removed by some overzealous algorithm that assumes the worst.
"Like and leave a comment" works because people forget that that's a thing as they go from one video to the next. And then someone saying that reminds them "oh yeah! That's something I can do to show my support"
its very hypocritical to me that Chris has multiple times in the past used the funny words to not get demonetized, but when its a separate video like this that he wrote off he says them all. The real test will be if he keeps to it in future videos (whenever those come out) or hopes everyone forgot about this video and goes back to using the safe words
Absolutely 100% totally fucking agreed. But I feel like most people just don't care. Only a few people who value the importance of unsanitizing words will care about this.
I’m glad you talked about this, because I’ve been thinking about this a lot recently. It feels disrespectful to victims to say they were “graped by a pdf file” instead of what actually happened. Maybe if you can’t talk about the seriousness of a subject in a TikTok video, maybe that’s not the place to talk about it?
I don't do TikTok at all, my impression from outside is it's a cesspool. And yet these sites are the new public square. The public square is owned and operated by people who aren't us, whose wants, values, and interests for the platform do not and will never overlap with ours. So we can be silenced by the algorithm or silenced by not using the public square. Either way, the topic gets stifled.
I thought it was bigger than a monetization issue. I've heard and seen in action videos from channels I'm subscribed to getting suppressed due to subject material. There are videos I wouldn't have seen unless the language was softened. It's bs that censoring themselves prevents the video being censored overall, but it seems like that's where we are at.
Censorship is wait lead to this existing in the first place. Some topics you CANNOT discuss on TouYube (yes, they've censored their own name before) without using those replacements.
I fully agree with the sentiment that we're taking the weight out of these serious topics by using soft language I think those topics shouldn't be softened because they will then lose all their meaning and seriousness Good video Chris
The irony is that in that same bit - Carlin goes in to say that the quality of our thoughts and ideas is only as good as the quality of our language and he was spot on. I loved this bit when I was back 10 yrs ago a senior in HS and wrote about him for my Senior paper and used it as supporting evidence. George Carlin got arrested so that “edgy” UA-camrs who make their entire personality around offending people for the sake of offense, all bark, no bite to wear the aesthetic of being part of the counter-culture.
Yeah, it's indescribably dangerous to allow big corporations to dictate how we're allowed to speak. Especially if it's even bleeding into meatspace.
Thanks for introducing me to the term “meatspace,” I hate it very much
Gonna use the term "meatspace" with my friends so I don't have to endure knowing that phrase by myself.
Lefties have been begging for / condoning corporations censoring speech for years
especially when the term “unalive” feels so “hehe silly xD”
Using “unalived” or “graped” feels genuinely disrespectful to the victims.
it's literally Orwellian newspeak and it's ++ungood
My great grandma was sadly unalived by icky air during the hollow cost
I now have a new name for Dark Souls setting thanks.
Cool it with the [redacted]
@@108Rudi I am a [[[redacted]]] don't ask me to lower your interest.
Was it the naughty people?
@@Tribow the mustache guy?
It's also the double standard. The MSM can say someone was murder or sexually assaulted, and they'll be followed up with a BMW ad. Meanwhile the plebs say it, and its not advertiser friendly.
Because they are the ones who set up the adpocalypse because they were threatened by online content
It's not about money, it's about control.
Well, I totally get you BUT
There is this fun strategy in business that is often times described as 'never change a running system'
The Paul's did their video about the suicide forest
Now youtube heavily checks what is getting popular
Because saying a few edgy words is not an issue, but the kind of message they send or the context can be.
Hear me out
You are a big-ish store in your area and think about doing youthbe ads
Well you also suddenly realize... huh my god, what if people see my ad in a video talking about how great the columbine shooter was
That isn't a connection anyone wants to have with their brand or store
I think it is absurd
Wrong even what is being done to communication and serious topics
But weirdly enough this is terrible but also better then anything I guessed would happen
You can still be edgy and get adds
Just avoid certain words
Descriptions are still fine
Euphemism are fine aswell
I do not have hope for younger children
But anyone above like 18 is VERY much aware of what things are
And censorship really isn't new
It's terrible
But nothing new
@@BoredPodcaster Those are synonyms, money and control.
especially when you consider MSM has blood on their hands on many occasions,
people died because of their propaganda and riling up people
NSNBC even had to defend itselfi ncourt under the premise of it being objectively reasonable they are entertainment not deemed news
basically "we are not credible, please don't hold us accountable for the objective untruths we have spread"
honorable mention: “sewerslide”
wtf is that lol wait I get it 😂
I prefer scoobyside
@@Hi_Its_LP sewerslide sounds kinda like suicide
I've been using [CTRL-ALT-DEL].
I had to use that bc UA-cam unironically blacklisted a post I made using the real term.
I never monetizedy my channel, it's just nice to have people see the stuff you put out
Incredibly cathartic to finally see someone talk about this. Content on UA-cam has become so watered down and safe that even channels I used to love feel more like scripted robotic imitations of who they used to be.
You and me both
And depending on the circles you travel in, you _still_ get demonetized!
I've found that it's largely a case of not wanting to give the censors any excuse. There's differential enforcement on content regulation. We all know it. You'd have to be _high_ to not realize what's going on. The point of the self-censorship is so that you can go "hey, this one of mine got hit, too. But I didn't even use any f-words in this one. What's up with that?" With luck, it opens people's eyes to the brazen madness. There is no saving the system, but perhaps some of the people can be reached.
The particularly purposeful will even invoke the memey way of dancing around certain words to make a point. That's how "Canadian healthcare" became a meme. If it sounds twisted and inhuman... that's the point. Censorship is dehumanizing, and you _will_ listen to it, and you will _keep_ listening to it until the end of our days on this unlife ball because some people are rightfully afraid that you'll forget. We want you to remember that cringe of hearing "unalive" or references to "the forever box." Some people want that to be the future, and they will try to convince you that _that_ way is better.
It's not just demonetization, either. Some channels even get outright strikes and their stuff gets removed, even if they're following fair use to the letter, just because they happened to be critical of something that The Powers That Be have a lot of money invested in.
@@draketheduelist yeah Internet entertainment is forever screwed
Yeah, it’d be nice if we could stop coddling the average person. It’s a strange thing to tell grown adults “You can’t use this word or it might make someone upsetti spaghetti”
I find it crazy YT ended up like this, but since they were bought by google don’t expect them to listen.
Holy shit two videos in a week we are so back
This is all we’re getting for the next 3 years
Only 1200 views in 5 minutes. CRG really fell off... 😇
He got very g*y!!
i must be in a coma. that's the only possible explaination
This is Trump's America!
What's crazy to me is that the first time I heard the phrase "graped" was the Whitest Kids U Know sketch, "The Grapist." It was literally a joke about trying to have really fucked up themes in kids juice box advertising. Now younger people are saying it unironically.
"Im gonna tie you to the radiator and grape ya in the mouth!"
“She was asking for it! Look what she’s wearing! It’s purple!”
RIP Trevor
This was my first thought. That was a great sketch.
This shit is just annoying
"That's what he does... he ties kids to the radiator and grapes them!"
I LEARNED IT FROM YOU, DAD!!!
i distinctly remember the video where you came up with the phrase "self forever sleep". advertising will destroy society
That video was, unintentionally, pretty prophetic.
Will? It already has. George Orwell called advertising rattling a stick in an empty swill bucket decades ago.
Bill Hick's bit where he unironically tells everyone in marketing to kill themselves is one of my favorite stand-up moments of all time.
@@ChrisRayGun The words of the prophets are written on bathroom walls... I guess, or at least according to some internet quote I found years ago.
I personally agree with your statement, there’s a couple of UA-camrs that cover cold cases, and heavy topics yet they say graped, and unalived and it always takes me out. It makes me feel like they don’t even take the topic seriously. It’s understandable for new upcoming UA-cam channels to do this especially if they NEED the revenue, and the views. But if your like this person with millions or hundreds of thousands of subs then take it on the chin. It especially doesn’t make sense when they also have a brand of their own that’s doing more than fine. But yes I think it’s really a strange decision to do and it’s just unnecessary.
It's so annoying in a TRUE CRIME documentary when the narrator uses words like "unalive" when describing a horrific murder. The news isn't going report that a vehicle oopsie unalived 3 people, it's going to report "3 Deaths in Fatal Car Crash". You are 1000% on-point with this video, Chris.
👏 King Chris. Ive been saying this, FOR YEARS. *Dont let corporations socially engineer you!!!*
We are living in Demolition Man, and I hate it. I am so disappointed youtubers didnt start leaving when this became the rules a few years ago.
Hey man, just wanted to say that my girlfriend and I would watch your videos together in college when we ate lunch together and it made for some sweet memories in our early relationship. We're married now and I started playing your last video in our lovely home and her ears perked up and she was like, "is that Chris Raygun???" and the memories came flooding back. We're both happy you're hanging in there and hope you know that with all the edgy videos you've made, you've actually made at least two people really happy and been a positive experience and we hope you're doing well. So while there can be some doom and gloom in your content, you've added some light and happiness to the world through this crazy internet and I hope that you know that from many fans before and after us.
That’s cute as fuck tbh
❤❤❤❤
We as a society shouldn’t be ok changing our vocabulary to appease corporate overlords.
Technically, UA-cam has competitors. Behold the true power of the word technically.
The public square is owned and will continue to be owned by people who aren't us, whose values and wants do not overlap with ours.
Oy vey, stop suggesting your rightful masters don't want what's best for you!
Then they should cease to be.@@Maladjester
@@mattd5240 Good luck with that.
Love the idea that you're supposed to just intuit homophobia from cornucopia. the green goblin mask in the bg really brings this all together btw
It's probably telling him to stop recording and accept a sponsor deal from a gambling site
Avenge me Chris! AVENGE ME!!!
Yeah like 1. That's a whole other unaltered word and 2. It's not even close to homophobia
Homophobia?! Put it in the cornucopia!
@@docdeacon74 ADRENALINE RUSH, ADRENALINE RUSH
I dont see the issue with “SA”, its just the initials of the actual words. This has been a thing forever, we use “CP” all the time.
But shit like “graped” and “unalived” piss me off. Its so unserious and brainrotten.
But letting big corpos dictate our speech with double standards is pathetic.
What topics we can discuss should be decided socially, not by the distant overlords who kowtow to shitty, oversexualized and misleading advertisers but will shoot down anything remotely “explicit”
As with many things in life, the problem is and always was capitalism and peoples’ complacency with it
My biggest problem with saying "SA" is that it's not unambiguous. If you're talking about sexual assault, it's not a topic you can afford to be ambiguous about. Hell, I sat through a bunch of people talking about how they'd developed "ED" after being SAed and I went for 10 minutes thinking they had erectile disfunction until context clues let me know they all had an eating disorder.
I watch a Twitch Streamer that regularly talks about this issue. He called it "Algorithm Approved Censorspeak" and I've been calling it that ever since. It's definitely an issue.
Orwell noted that one of the best ways to control people was to limit their speech, and the prime example was the removal of negative words - so nothing is "bad", it's just "ungood" (which by it's makeup of two negative/positive words means it's meaning is subconsciously more neutral than bad). By removing the impact of proper negative language you neuter the conversation before it begins.
Was looking for the Orwell comment. I loved his use of the word "rectify" when talking about forgery and retroactively changing history. The records were "rectified".
Current linguistic trends are double-ungood for real.
An Orwell reference that isn’t a reach? In a YT comment section? Unheard of.
It's monetarily enforced Newspeak, plain & simple.
'If thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought'
This is double plus ungood
I remember there was some museum that described Kurt Cobain "unaliving" himself and then doubling down about how the language is about "protecting the feelings of marginalized communities" and not an attempt to get past censors.
"Marginalized communities"? What, people who have killed themselves? Pretty sure they won't care all that much.
Censorship is the excuse. The goal is clear
That was in Seattle, and they recently changed it to suicide after public backlash
Every day Chris's criticism of 2010s SJWs ages better.
@@L3SSTH4NL33T I cant believe they capitulated. A west coast city of all places.
It’s even worse when history channels, such as my personal favorite, Time Ghost History, is demonitized because they discuss the history of genocide and war crimes of the 20th century. Not PROMOTING it, but DISCUSSING and, by the end of the video, CONDEMNING it.
They're using language that the youtube algorithm won't instantly flag and strike down their channel. Remember youtube refuses to allow anything approaching free speech on its website.
We wouldn't want to accidentally educate ourselves now would be?
Now go back to purchasing products
@@notMattGarska A smart consumer is a dangerous consumer.
That's probably why some channels have gone so far as to whenever discussing such topics, as to immediately condemn it in the most obnoxiously condescending manner. No crap. The fact they feel they even have to do so is itself pretty insulting, but here we are.
It isn't just the ding to ad revenue on one video. It's the downstream effects of getting downranked in the algorithm. Many of the gun-tuber channels have been permanently throttled because of the content they post. Also, it makes a big difference if UA-cam is your primary source of income or not. There are plenty of people out there doing exactly as you suggest. You don't see those channels because they get downranked in the algorithm.
Yes, Chris. Self-censorship is a feature, not a bug, of political correctness. Carlin was 100% correct when he said it was “fascism disguised as good manners.”
Holy shit it's Chris Ray Gun
(I'm so glad I get to do this bit again)
For real
Nice like number
I think you mean Chris Ray Pew Pew
I've personally seen a trend that every sociopathic and psychopathic entity will first try to sterilize language and conversations of humanity so they people can't talk about their humanity anymore, and then, when they're psychologically isolated and emotionally unstable, they start exploiting the shit out of them. It's frustrating how common this is nowadays.
No, it's not a small gripe. This is definitely a big deal. Controlling language is the first step in the ol' dystopia chain.
but it's only online,the algorithm isn't going to jump out of the screen and strangle you if you say the meany words irl
@@badasscrusaderin the UK people got jailed for saying mean words on the internet, they're also arresting people for "non crime hate incidents"
@@matmorrow typical uk L,but I was talking about the usa
@@badasscrusader ok
@@thomgizziz your examples are all outside of the government except the proposals which are mostly brought up and passed in majority blue areas,and the dems are very much the party of big government at the moment.
Plus as Americans I can hope that we value our freedom of speech highly due to it being in our constitution
Just when you think he's done, this man hits you with back-to-back uploads. I'm thinking we're fucking back
Aren't you pro censorship now, act person ? You are not "back", you're out. Cheers
Sit down, we ALL know you're just a shill.
@@BurghezulDjentilomThese guys are good friends so if you dont like Actmans opinions, you'd hate to find out what Chris believes. Please unsubscribe fast!
@@diy_mushroomguyProof?
Hello Act Man
4:27 We call those people "terminally online".
Imagine reaching the point where you feel like you have to take your own life, and from the afterlife seeing some 15 year old have an AI voice describe you as "unaliving"
Shit my first thought would be “glad I did it” 😂
'Self deleting'
@@BcrizzyIntheSnizzy and the second thought? "damn, time to do it again"
This stuff annoys me to no end. I'm so tired of all of the censorship that is happening with the modern internet. It just feels like everything is becoming sterilized in hopes of achieving some grand "utopian" vision
I absolutely agree. The amount of paranoia people have about angering the algorithm is making me insane. I am just unable to take someone's words seriously when they are supposedly talking about something serious and they are using random codewords of fruits and whatnot.
FAANG Corpos and their consequences.
It will be "rectified" otherwise you.
The one that gets me is "unironically "
we've newspeaked the concept of sincerity out of language and framed irony as the default way to engage witn something. Now instead of being "sincere " people are being "not ironic "
I hate it so much
I hadn’t even considered this lol. Great observation.
True. Saying "unironically" as a description of something is meant to be expressed as "not taken as a joke", "not sarcastic", or literally "not ironic". The rampant stupidity causing the degradation of language needs to be stopped.
the weird thing about that is that irony went back to its original definition, rather than the one popular when I was a kid, just "a funny coincidence"
So on one hand yeah people are overdoing it, but I think saying 'unironically' to mean 'genuinely' is better than what I always used to hear, which was 'literally'
@GrayAndGrey even then, the words "genuinely " and "sincerely " exist. There was never any need for "unironically "
I can't complain about that one in the slightest. I've never heard anyone use it in any context other than mocking a completely batshit crazy idea/lie which in all ordinary circumstances would have to be said ironically with comedic intent.
Censorship is evil. Period. Self-censorship is the worst kind of censorship there is. Back when the religious right (thought) they had control of culture, they demanded that everybody censor themselves. Everybody rightfully told them to screw themselves. Now, when the current language police do it, everybody seems so quick to happily comply. It makes me sick to my stomach.
I'm so glad someone else is talking about this. The weird censorship of more serious topics to appease algorithms and keep videos from being demonetized or flagged has always kinda rubbed me the wrong way. I get that people want to make money off of the content they make and I fully believe they should be allowed to but these are topics that should be handled seriously and using flowery euphemisms to avoid directly mentioning them lessens the seriousness of those topics. I've seen people use terms like "unalive" "self termination" "self deletion" and "slide into the sewer" when referring to suicide and it almost feels disrespectful.
I don't think the issue rest solely on content creators though, the fact that sites like UA-cam and TikTok incentivize doing this by punishing creators who don't is honestly even worse. Not being able to talk openly about these types of serious topics without risk of having your video demonetized, flagged, or even taken down is insanely counterproductive. These are things that should be talked about and should be talked about very openly and transparently.
I don't understand why companies like UA-cam and TikTok feel the need to forcibly make it harder to talk about these kinds of serious issues to appear more advertiser friendly when most of the time, these videos are just recounting events that happened in real life. This gross forced PG-ification of the internet is truly only going to result in negative consequences imo.
Honestly, imo it's not even a "feels like it's disrespectful", it just is. If I survived a rape or lost a loved one to suicide, I would be beyond livid if someone said "grape" or "sewerslide". Like, it would take all of my power to not just spew an unbridled shitstorm of vitriol at them. It's so oblivious and discounting.
It's because the playing field is so insanely unreasonable.
News media, television, music, and film are held to COMPLETELY different standards, even on the same platform.
You can't talk about REAL events - but you can buy a song about murder for $0.99.
Yeah this video made me realize that if content creators are going out of their way to use these flowery terms, then they're prioritizing the desires of the algorithm instead of the severity of the topic - ergo, prioritizing profit over the topic itself. Which is kinda fucked up
@@SubberCommentator900 No, most of them need to make money because it's their jobs. They can't choose to sewerslide their channels just because you're offended that SOMEONE ELSE won't let them use the real ones.
I'm not sure about that with the responsibility. Like Chris said, the amount of cash made despite the dings from mentioning these words is supplementary at best. Your channel will not tank nor will it suddenly succeed depending on your use of the terminology. All it does is enhance an already existing output. As a result, I have to face the obvious: As a true crime fan, I acknowledge that 90% of people who claim to be content creators for the genre are essentially just parasites unwilling to risk talking about the seriousness of the topic. The involvement with things like true crime comes from remembrance. When you start scrubbing away remembrance because you want, again, WANT an extra $150 at the end of the month does have to make you a bit scum, no matter who's offering you the cursed chalice.
Scold and torch corpos all you like and I'll honestly support you, but to pretend that somehow people are relieved of responsibility because 'oooo money'? I'm sorry, but is the artistic form in general so godfuck corroded thanks to money? Ultimately, we both agree. I just really hate the idea that people are exonerated of all blame simply because they were paid. The logical conclusion to that would simply make being a hitman legal. After all, there's the monetary incentive.
When it comes to the hardtack, you don't NEED to talk about this on UA-cam or TikTok. If the focus is simply the money, then I have to refer to above. Talking about dead people should not be completely dependent on money, I'm sorry lmao
Im glad we had the Green Goblin here to give us some much needed clarity to this discussion, good on you for having him on!
A vid from Shoe and Chris in less than 24 hours?
What is this? A crossover episode with 2016?
Mom and Dad came back from the store and boy oh boy they brought presents
@@DashingSteel They did forget to buy cigarettes though, so they'll be right back.
@@christianfaux736 To be fair, Mama June never really stopped posting, so either way we'll at least have her around
Next thing you know, Thunderfoot will make a video that isn't him whining about Elon Musk.
@@Y2KNW Elon just became a head of a brand new branch of the government and won't shut up about it! No one who makes a living making gate videos in Musk is gonna stop any time soon
5:48 the most adult thing a youtuber has said in years
1:39 - I would seriously an hero if I ever thought of saying cornucopia like that
Further to George Carlin's point about softening language, in the 1950s, the term most people used for pedophiles was "kiddy raper". Pretty unambiguous there. It's visceral and gets across the point very efficiently. Then "pedophile" became the commonly used term. While it is accurate, it also isn't as raw and brutal, which is why people (and I use that word in a purely biological sense) have started identifying themselves as pedophiles and trying to even further sanitize the language with the term "minor attracted person." We should bring back the term "kiddy raper"
Maps should be express delivered to jah
"kiddy raper" doesn't quite sound right. it sounds more infantile and less pointed than "child rapist", which i would argue would be a better term. for instance, "watt walsh is a child rapist" sounds way more pointed than "matt walsh is a kiddy raper."
No, what happened was media proliferated the "pedo panic" in the 80s-90s, erroneously conflating "pedophile" (refers solely to attraction) with "child molester" (an actual criminal act). In turn, prog creeps hijacked _that_ phenomenon to push their own "M.A.P." nonsense as part of a twisted attempt at legitimization.
It's a whole different matter, where all the self-righteous "pedo hunter" twits helped create that sicko movement because they couldn't respect semantics. Great job, geniuses....
Not quite on that "person first" language yet, though, huh?
Instead of "minor attracted person," i think the fully politically correct name would be "person attracted to minors"
And of course, the UA-cam bots are already hiding my comments concerning this topic.....
Anyone who unironically uses the word "unalive" loses most of any respect I may have had for them, instantly. If you're not gonna live in the real world and give dark or sensitive topics the respect they deserve when it's called for, then you're not worth anybody's time.
Too many comments get removed from youtube just by using the "wrong word".
@@ricardokojin7 Yeah, my comments that don't use any swears or the serious words in this video have been deleted. Once my comment disappeared, so I edited it, posted it again 1 hour later, and 1 more hour wrote "UA-cam sent my other comment to the shadow realm so I edited it and sent it again, lmk if you don't see it." Both of those were deleted. Is "shadow realm" too explicit?! No one tell 4Kids.
And some other comments on the channel did work, so I wasn't blocked.
At this point I just copy all of my comments into a temporary file so that I don't have to rewrite them if they're sent to the "shad0w r3alm" again.
The dumbing down of serious language is just...well it's just one of the myriad aspects of how emotionally immature we are becoming.
I don't know if it's slang or language softening, but there was one week where UA-cam showed me almost nothing but thumbnails with the word "cooked" in it. Like, "They're cooked" (not related to food).
Using those fake terms, for such serious issues, is offensive, demeaning, and patronising towards the actual victims and family members of "unlived" or "graped" victims! Having to use such ridiculous words diminishes the act and seriousness of the situation! Because it changes absolutely nothing, we still understand the concept of the word! It's all under the disguise of not offending or causing additional suffering to the victims or people in general, a play pretence...I'm actually getting angry just talking about! It's all fake! We're made to be fake! And we're complying, patting our back, pretending we're good people if don't mention those words! "We're helping"! We're in Idicracy!
Well, hey, he isnt fucking around this time. HE'S ACTUALLY AROUND
Hey look, it's a big alive meme!
He just went out for a box of matches
I couldn't agree more. It's bothered the hell out of me, ever since everyone stopped swearing on UA-cam. I liked that people swore, not because of some sort of immature sense of humour, but because people were being real, and it felt like I was being respected, instead of patronised. And remember when whenever anyone ever even mentioned suicide, they'd throw up links and the phone number of a crisis line? But now apparently it's more important to be non-controversial enough that coca cola will still advertise on your videos. And we all know that ads aren't endorsements, old media just made up a controversy out of whole cloth as an attack on new media. Well, well done, you wrecked it for everyone.
This feels like living in Cyberpunk but without any of the good parts
I’d rather use cyberpunk slang like “flatline” or “Zeroed” than “unalive”.
Scratch one bogey 😂
They were sent to the pearly gates
they met jesus
It is incredible, that even after all this time, Chris is still growing the same feeble imitation of a beard. Keep going Chris, we believe in you!
I feel like the valid frustration might be misplaced. Like yeah, it can be weird to hear very serious topics be spoken about with some stranger euphemisms, but at the end of the day creators aren’t the ones dictating the rules. Like if I’m a small creator trying to grow, I’m not going to throw a wrench at myself by blatantly disregarding what yields success from the algorithm determining whether or not I grow - especially if it’s something you’re trying to do full-time. Definitely once you’ve “made it” I think you can afford to have more flexibility, but if you’re in a position where you don’t have patrons, you don’t have sponsorships, and your main goal is getting an audience, you’re only making an already steep climb all the steeper by not playing the game at least a little. The issue should be raised with companies like UA-cam, TikTok, etc. who are making the rules in the first place rather than the creators who are punished for not following them.
Video platform demonetisation is so overbearing that it actually had an impact on the human language, just realising that is wild
"Hey Jimbo did I ever tell you about pie. I sexually assaulted the pie!"
Hey great video, this is especially a topic that I think is important to discuss and hear. Allowing big corporations to dictate how we talk is ridiculous and words like "unalive" make death seem less serious and almost silly, and treat it with very little respect. No one would use those words in a serious conversation but we have to now because of social media algorithms. It just isn't right. Also, two videos in one week, that is great. Glad to see you back!
The only slang I advocate for is 2077 type sh. Flatlined, zeroed, and corpo are so good
Hey, the ghost of Chris Ray Gun past is back. You are correct if you're going to talk about serious topics you should treat them seriously not say "graped drop the G" but I think there's a big component you may be missing here. Saying any of these words on their own doesn't get you demonetized. I talk about crime all the time, rapes, murders, etc. & I don't get demonetized for not sanitizing language. I check the box for Adult Content, Firearms related if I even mention a gun, Violence, Sensitive events & Controversial issues & guess what, when you tell UA-cam the truth 99% of the time your fine. The language censorship is like that viral Facebook copyright post, it's dumb, doesn't do anything, yet people keep doing it because they see others do it
Imagine saying these terms to someone who actually lived through those experiences, it essentially cheapens their experiences because UA-cam thinks only kids watch them.
I still think the worst thing about it is that the motivation isn't even strictly financial. Demonitization actively suppresses your video in the algorithm, thus limiting how many people can will see the video, making the motivation for censoring yourself even stronger than it would be anyways
But a lot of this persons are huge channels already that already started in 2017 saying the edgy shit imagine
@@darilaho yeah and they're still hidden from feeds and those videos get shadow banned. You can have consistent 1mil views but if most those views are from things like the algorithm then you barely break the half way point.
I don't care why they do it, frankly.
Once they do, their words and opinions are worth dog shit.
it would be so simple if it was just about the money
but UA-cam doesn't simply cut your funding, it cuts your visibility, and it does so selectively against "wrong-think" content
and why shouldn't you get paid? why do youtubers have to self flagellate? while legacy media rolls in ad revenue
This, people here are pretending it is just a "make less money" issues... use the wrong word and even your comment vanished without a warning.
It isnt just about making money, this was touched on a while ago by a bunch of creators but the algorithms would literally not tell subscribers youve made the video altogether if specific flags get tripped, let alone show stuff to new people.
Even in comment sections, sometimes you get you automodded off for simple "stuff", due to a channel being "isolated together for sickness".
Im not kidding Ive tested this on a few channels and simple swearing, kid level insults, and random controversial words can make your comment vanish regardless of context.
This is what happens when you don't allow us to call fruity language "gay" anymore.
I find the subtle but pronounced influences that the social media algorithms of today will have on future generations to be extremely concerning.
Censorship offends me deeply.
These sites are the new public square. The potential audience is unbeatable. There's no better place to educate, discuss, debate.
But the public square is owned by people who aren't us, whose values and interests do not and will never coincide with our own. The plain fact of the matter is we have three choices:
1 Try to talk about these things in a mature way and get censored off the platform or demonetized to the point of quitting
2 Go elsewhere and give up the platform's entire potential audience, essentially equivalent to taking a vow of silence
3 Obey the algorithm sorcerers, reach at least some audience, and make at least some money
One of the worst parts to my understanding is that it has no real impact on the algorithm. True crime still doesn’t get monetized, so just say the goddamn words.
Say the words and have the channel deleted.
“We don’t do the thing because we only lose a few bucks! It’s pocket change to us. Just do the same and deal with the consequences that we never had to deal with while we were growing our channels!”
It’s a little out of touch. Pretty much pulling up the ladder behind him.
If you lighten up any more Chris, you'll end up floating to the sky!
0:31 it feels weird for most absentee fathers... you are not alone
A problem is that people are aping creators who self-censor, seemingly thinking it's just quirky language and not realizing why they are doing it, which is to make money from these massive corporations. So basically, we are giving these massive corporations the reigns on how people talk about certain topics.
I mean you can argue culture is always in some way influenced by large societal factors like corporations and media. Creative substitutions are funny but I think the bigger issues in those cases are the consistent replacement. Like when kids would say screw instead of fuck, we know what they are saying but they are censoring themselves enough to get away with it.
Not at all really. These corporations cant control how we talk about certain topics. They can only control what we cant say on THEIR platform IF we want to make money from it.
@@DLan720 Even if you don't want to make money from it, comments can be removed.. or even videos or whole accounts.
@@DLan720yeah, they're "platforms" when you want them to take accountability for their pokicies-but then they become "publishers" when you say something they don't like.
The main problem with this is we didn't really *give* them the reigns so much as they created/purchased ALL the reigns, we never had them in the first place. There is no where else to go that isn't owned by them, except X which still spawned a massive counter movement because someone dared to uncensor a social media site.
Gut feeling I agree. It santitizes what shouldn't be sanitized, and unconsciously transforms language to obfuscate (I'm Dutch and if I'm misspelling any of these words, i'm sorry ^^). Then again, I try to stay away from giving strong opinions about positions I'm not in, and I don't know what it's like to be a content creator, so I feel my opinion doesn't hold that much value here. But I wanted to be all supportive with a comment, so that's what this long-form shit is.
"His free trial of life subscription has expired."
"She vacated herself from the gene pool"
The thing that radicalized me was a TikToker talking about his sexual assault but he used mascara as a code word for sex, and a celebrity genuinely misunderstood & thought he got his eyes done without his consent. Then all of TikTok acted like the celebrity was an awful human being when she literally just didn't understand the code talk.
It also creates a problem for content warnings, where if someone doesn't want to hear about sexual assault or suicide they can't filter those words. They have to keep up to date on whatever the new code words are, which is a Sisyphean task. No one has even bothered to keep track either. You just have to be there & recognize the context. It's hieroglyphic.
Eh, content warnings are for the weak anyway, and are part of this softening and coding of language anyway
I like the ol' "Carbonara Sayonara" if I do say so myself.
I know its a bit but it really is sounding more like 1984 in people self-censoring. And they don't even realize that they are doing it
The infuriating thing to me is that it feels like human language is regressing more than evolving, and for what? So content mills can have a few extra pennies?
Yes exactly that actually
Yup and to not offend people.
And the platforms can market that sweet, sweet ad revenue because “We Happy Few” must _remain_ “happy.”
The same argument could be used for most euphemisms. Reproductive health instead of abortion comes to mind.
THANK YOU!! I despise people who use other people's trauma/death to make money ESPECIALLY sugar coating shit to increase their revenue. They're disgusting slime. If you're making money from this then at least tell it like it is. This shouldn't be treated as baby's first homicide!
a Seattle Museum replaced its plack to Kurt Cobain recently that used "unalived" instead of "suicide" for whatever reason.
Im sorry what?
was it the mopop? cause i live in Seattle and go there every other year and ive never seen that in my life
@@caesthoffeyeah it’s that one-I’ve seen the pic but I’m hoping it’s just edited
Censorship has gotten so bad on UA-cam that it actually dissuades people from making content…
I have another channel where I tell supposedly true scary stories and I find myself having to be careful with my language a lot out of fear that UA-cam won’t push my content in the algorithm due to it.
Obviously if I were a bigger creator with a more guaranteed chance of getting viewers I wouldn’t care but this really hinders the creative process and the drive to create for smaller creators who put tons of work into their content and get no returns…
The disgusting things they try to push to my 3 year old son. But they censor and remove my comments for the tiniest transgression.
Why are you creating videos expecting returns? You might as well stop then if that takes precedence over what you actually want to create...
@@monkeyguy378 Well that’s just it.
I do create content that I want to create, but it would be silly to say that people create content just for fun and they don’t want any returns from it.
Simply put, we all make content and we hope that people will watch it and enjoy it, but the problem is when UA-cam goes out of its way to block certain content from being seen due to censorship reasons and just strictly because they deem it not profitable then that makes it harder for newer creators to feel a sense of motivation to continue to create when it gets them nowhere.
This is not how it used to be back in the earlier days of UA-cam and that’s a big issue.
@@monkeyguy378why would he put a ton of effort into working on UA-cam videos and expect the potential of getting something out of it? Gee I dunno.
@monkeyguy378 While I get where you're coming from and kinda agree, at the same time I feel like wanting a little something for your time and effort is only normal. Especially if it's something you're trying to break into as a potential career.
I love that when father finally came back he decided to talk about an issue that's been personally bothering me for a long time now
Personally I hope if anything unfortunate happens to me I hope it goes unrecorded and unnoticed
I'd rather suffer in silence then line some douches pockets while using child playground words to describe what happened to me
Completely with you on this on the softening of language to persons and events that deserve the verbose gravity thats due both in serious situations and insults.
Is there a chris ray gun discord? I imagine that would be a wild place to be and if it exists I don't want to be missing out.
The thing I don't get is the people doing it think somehow the platform and algorithm won't figure out the new words? All it takes is one guy to open up a command prompt and add SA and PDFfile to the list, then bam you'll still get dinged.
And then we need to make up new lingo, and then that gets censored, and we have to ban together to find new lingo until that also gets censored.
Or... and I know this is 'bannanas' - the other word is banned, but hear me out, we can just collectively agree that "censorship of harmless words is wrong."
You'd also think that maybe, just maybe that "in the land of the free and home of the brave," we wouldn't allow corporations to police harmless speech?
Hopefully, the new administration will require corporations to follow all national laws.
@VariantAEC you seem passionate about this which is something I live to see
If you want to see an extreme version of that go and look into the current issues of hongkong. The language of resistant people has genuinley evolved to a point where it's apperently incomprehensible for uninitiated people because they pack so much meaning into harmless everyday phrases to the point where a poster surfaced that tells you how to get an umbrella if it rains that contains a guide on how to check if someone is an undercover cop with literally no phrases that seem even slightly odd on a description on where to get umbrellas
The thing is
Noone cares about wether we all know what it means
The point is to make it sound more marketable, because the real words bring up to many bad emotions
Noone wants to buy hello fresh when they are sad about a 12 year old boy being raped to death by his uncle
But a lot of people don't mind doing that after learning about a child going into a forever sleep after a minor attracted family member suprise loved them to much.
Of course it also has a fun side effect of polishing any agenda you like by making it so that only the group you disagree with is being targeted with the evil words
But the group you like, even when they commit heinous acts gets the happy fun time words that make the brutality of their crimes seems so cute and silly
This is exactly how I’ve been feeling about the internet for the last 4 years atleast, thanks for making this video Chris it’s good to have you back
The dressed up language is worthless.
It's completely arbitrary when the meaning is the same. They've just made zoomer synonyms for everything lol.
"Unalive" in particular is disgusting and dystopian as hell. It takes a serious, heavy topic like death and makes it clean and palatable: which is the exact opposite of how death should be treated.
Plus, say what you will about most euphemisms, they're at least usually used for the supposed benefit of human victims. "Unalive," on the other hand, is 100% for the benefit of soulless advertisers and their literal robots. No human is helped by this, it's not even _supposed_ to heal any pain, it's just a system glitch that has somehow infected our common language.
Someone told me it was a way to avoid triggering victims. So now victims will have more triggers. It doesn't remove their ptsd.
i know it’s a dead horse to call modern day, orwellian
but seriously getting rid of free speech for the sake of advertisements is actually dystopian, the way that the chinese people have to get around censorship is INSANE
Pretty sure this platform doesn't simply demonetize. It completely hides visibility. Chrissy's videos are in the shallows, nobody's trying to take away his channel.
Funny enough I learned this language from your advertiser friendly video in which you used the phrase "self forever-sleep", and I still say that to this day as I find it hilarious. But yes, I think its mondo cringe when I hear "unalive" on every video imaginable now.
What’s funny is I rewatched the video you did parodying this exact topic. Just reading the most vile news headlines and converting them to be ok for UA-cam algorithm
7:35 "oh free speech bruv" 😂
Hugely agree. The impact on language and culture that the algorithmic internet is having is really concerning to me. People, quite frankly, have no balls and cater to hypersensitivity at the cost of reality. Since I have parents who went through deeply traumatic shit and both have PTSD as a result, it makes me very unhappy to see.
Furthermore, it feels exploitative. If you can't talk about an issue without dressing it up in lace and confetti, then just leave it alone.
Christopher Raymond Gunther, a classic
Chris I have had comments responses deleted and unreadable for using words IN THE COMMENT SECTION. You have to use these methods or the Algorithm won't even allow you to debate
Happens to me all the time. The worst part is there's no warnings or notifications that your posts get censored. So you can write something out and post it, and never even know that it vanished or why, save for the fact that you're still permanently subscribed to the comment thread and will get notified every time there's a comment in the thread, even though you can see your comment is missing. Truly the youtube comment section experience.
@@jormilos At this point I'm convinced that I'm on the platform's naughty list. I made a comment about a particular religious and ethnic group being targeted for harassment in a particular way in the past and half of all comments I've made since then have been removed by some overzealous algorithm that assumes the worst.
"Like and leave a comment" works because people forget that that's a thing as they go from one video to the next. And then someone saying that reminds them "oh yeah! That's something I can do to show my support"
its very hypocritical to me that Chris has multiple times in the past used the funny words to not get demonetized, but when its a separate video like this that he wrote off he says them all. The real test will be if he keeps to it in future videos (whenever those come out) or hopes everyone forgot about this video and goes back to using the safe words
Absolutely 100% totally fucking agreed. But I feel like most people just don't care. Only a few people who value the importance of unsanitizing words will care about this.
here before this gets taken down by the algorithm
I agree with you, though admittedly, I use the word Graped mainly because I think it's funny and it reminds me of the Whitest Kids You Know sketch
I’m glad you talked about this, because I’ve been thinking about this a lot recently. It feels disrespectful to victims to say they were “graped by a pdf file” instead of what actually happened. Maybe if you can’t talk about the seriousness of a subject in a TikTok video, maybe that’s not the place to talk about it?
I don't do TikTok at all, my impression from outside is it's a cesspool. And yet these sites are the new public square. The public square is owned and operated by people who aren't us, whose wants, values, and interests for the platform do not and will never overlap with ours. So we can be silenced by the algorithm or silenced by not using the public square. Either way, the topic gets stifled.
3:32 i was going to bring up that Carlin bit.
I thought it was bigger than a monetization issue. I've heard and seen in action videos from channels I'm subscribed to getting suppressed due to subject material. There are videos I wouldn't have seen unless the language was softened. It's bs that censoring themselves prevents the video being censored overall, but it seems like that's where we are at.
Censorship is wait lead to this existing in the first place. Some topics you CANNOT discuss on TouYube (yes, they've censored their own name before) without using those replacements.
I fully agree with the sentiment that we're taking the weight out of these serious topics by using soft language
I think those topics shouldn't be softened because they will then lose all their meaning and seriousness
Good video Chris
The irony is that in that same bit - Carlin goes in to say that the quality of our thoughts and ideas is only as good as the quality of our language and he was spot on.
I loved this bit when I was back 10 yrs ago a senior in HS and wrote about him for my Senior paper and used it as supporting evidence.
George Carlin got arrested so that “edgy” UA-camrs who make their entire personality around offending people for the sake of offense, all bark, no bite to wear the aesthetic of being part of the counter-culture.
"but I don't want to make people too uncomfortable I want to make a bit of money" 😂😂😂😂😂 soo on point
"If i'm looking at it from the perspective of a sociopathic demon - I understand!" 😂