So I have a question for you... If the bread and wine truly become the body, blood, soul and divinity of Christ, God Himself, as per CCC #1374 and #1376 clearly state. What do we do with Acts 17:24 that states that God can not be kept in anything made by human hands? As the mass is ended the priest puts the offering that has not been received into a Tabernacle made with human hands, then shuts the door and locks what the CCC claims is God into the tabernacle ? If the bread is truly God how can this take place when Acts 17:24 is very clear that this action would not be possible? How does the Catholic church harmonize Acts 17:24 with CCC #1374, 1376 and the tabernacle used at mass? I have yet to receive a biblical explanation.. plz explain using biblical new testament scripture. Thank you for your input.
Hello! Great question and very attentive reading of the Scriptures! The passage you cite from Acts does seem, at first glance, to preclude Jesus' Eucharistic Presence being kept in the Tabernacle. However, there is no contradiction between God being everywhere (because He is God) and God being in a particular place. Here are some Scriptural examples: - The Tent of Meeting, the Holy of Holies, the Arc of the Covenant, and the Temple of Jerusalem, all of which were where God dwelt in the Old Testament - Exodus 33: 7-11 and 2 Samuel 7: 4-7, as examples. - In the New Testament, we know that Jesus is God and that He had a physical body and that He dwelt in particular places (the womb of the Virgin Mary, Bethlehem, Egypt, Nazareth, Capernaum, Bethany, Jerusalem). This is the main reason the Church has, since Her inception, consistently taught that God can dwell in particular places. Jesus did it: we believe in Jesus, true God and true Man. In Matthew 28, He promised to "remain with us always, even to the end of the age," and we take Him at His word. - To address the Eucharist in particular, the Church teaches what Christ Himself taught: John 6 being the most extensive teaching, by the Lord Himself, that His Flesh is true food and His Blood is true drink and that if believers do not gnaw on His Flesh (His Body, His Real Presence), then they have no life in them. Jesus said He is the Eucharist, so we reserve His Presence to adore Him, as our ancestors did and as God commanded us to do. Some great articles can be found here: 1. www.catholic.com/tract/christ-in-the-eucharist ; 2. www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/refuting-john-6-for-catholics ; 3. www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/how-to-defend-christs-presence-in-the-eucharist. If you want another concise response to your question about Acts 17:24, here is a helpful article with additional Scriptural citations: www.catholic.com/qa/does-acts-1724-preclude-temples-and-tabernacles. I hope this helps and know of our prayers. God bless you!
@@NativityParishBurke ok, no problem. Was hoping you were the priest in the video but thanks for your honesty. I do thank you for your reply to my question that has been on my mind for some time now. At first glance, yes Acts 17:24 does seem to teach that God can not be locked away in any temple made with human hands. When I first came across this passage it made me wonder how it was possible for a man to lock Christ into a tabernacle as mass. Perhaps this was a specific message to the men of Athens and not a passage to be taken in general, but then I came across the same teaching given to Israel in Acts 7:48 "however, the most high does not dwell in temples made with hands, as the prophet says". So now I'm seeing the same message given to two different people groups in two different situations, so it makes me wonder how the RCC is any different ? I understand that God is omnipresent as we both would agree but the text in both passages seem to be referring more toward the restriction of God to a made made object then to the fact the God is omnipresent. So I'm still having a bit of difficulty with both Acts 17:24 and Acts 7:48 in relation to the elements. I understand the examples of the most Holy of Holies, the Arc of the covenant and the rest of the old testament examples you gave me but the issue is that they are old testament examples and we are under a new covenant, in the new testament times. In the old testament people were separated from God but in the new testament the Val has been torn and men now have direct access to God trough prayer... The examples you gave in the new testament are locations and we both agree God is omnipresent. The other new testament example you gave is the womb of Mary and that is not made with human hands. It grabs the attention when you see this fact between the old and new testaments and when you take into account all the information together, something seems off. I have tried to find a more direct answer to this observation but have not found a definitive answer when considering the difference between testaments. Idk if maybe as a devout catholic you might have better insight or even ask around. Anyway thanks for checking back to me . I do also have a question about transubstantiation if you're able to answer. Where in scripture do we find the doctrine of transubstantiation being carried out ? It seems like a very important doctrine but I'm not sure I'm seeing it in the new testament. Thank you for your time.
@@mack6429you can find transubstantiation in Matthew 26:26-29 and in Luke 22:25-2 and 1 Corinthians 11: 22-34. When he was talking about him not dwelling in temples he was talking about he was limited to that place, and that he needed them for a purpose just as the pagans believed in acts 17 : 24 Paul was talking to pagans. God was not confined to their temples just as the idols were.acts 7 48 is also talking about him being confined to those places. Also the Eucharist is put in a tabernacle not a temple you arguments would only work for churches not a tabernacle. We put the Eucharist there because it’s the most reverend place his under the appearance of bread and wine.
Can you make a separate video on mass stipends?
Thank you for your comment! We will take that subject into consideration for a future video!
So I have a question for you... If the bread and wine truly become the body, blood, soul and divinity of Christ, God Himself, as per CCC #1374 and #1376 clearly state. What do we do with Acts 17:24 that states that God can not be kept in anything made by human hands? As the mass is ended the priest puts the offering that has not been received into a Tabernacle made with human hands, then shuts the door and locks what the CCC claims is God into the tabernacle ? If the bread is truly God how can this take place when Acts 17:24 is very clear that this action would not be possible? How does the Catholic church harmonize Acts 17:24 with CCC #1374, 1376 and the tabernacle used at mass? I have yet to receive a biblical explanation.. plz explain using biblical new testament scripture. Thank you for your input.
Hello! Great question and very attentive reading of the Scriptures! The passage you cite from Acts does seem, at first glance, to preclude Jesus' Eucharistic Presence being kept in the Tabernacle. However, there is no contradiction between God being everywhere (because He is God) and God being in a particular place. Here are some Scriptural examples:
- The Tent of Meeting, the Holy of Holies, the Arc of the Covenant, and the Temple of Jerusalem, all of which were where God dwelt in the Old Testament - Exodus 33: 7-11 and 2 Samuel 7: 4-7, as examples.
- In the New Testament, we know that Jesus is God and that He had a physical body and that He dwelt in particular places (the womb of the Virgin Mary, Bethlehem, Egypt, Nazareth, Capernaum, Bethany, Jerusalem). This is the main reason the Church has, since Her inception, consistently taught that God can dwell in particular places. Jesus did it: we believe in Jesus, true God and true Man. In Matthew 28, He promised to "remain with us always, even to the end of the age," and we take Him at His word.
- To address the Eucharist in particular, the Church teaches what Christ Himself taught: John 6 being the most extensive teaching, by the Lord Himself, that His Flesh is true food and His Blood is true drink and that if believers do not gnaw on His Flesh (His Body, His Real Presence), then they have no life in them. Jesus said He is the Eucharist, so we reserve His Presence to adore Him, as our ancestors did and as God commanded us to do. Some great articles can be found here: 1. www.catholic.com/tract/christ-in-the-eucharist ; 2. www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/refuting-john-6-for-catholics ; 3. www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/how-to-defend-christs-presence-in-the-eucharist.
If you want another concise response to your question about Acts 17:24, here is a helpful article with additional Scriptural citations: www.catholic.com/qa/does-acts-1724-preclude-temples-and-tabernacles.
I hope this helps and know of our prayers. God bless you!
@@NativityParishBurke hi there, before I comment on your reply, id like to ask if this is the priest in the video whom I am speaking with ?
@@mack6429 Hello! No, this is not the priest in the video. This is Nativity's Social Media Coordinator.
@@NativityParishBurke ok, no problem. Was hoping you were the priest in the video but thanks for your honesty. I do thank you for your reply to my question that has been on my mind for some time now. At first glance, yes Acts 17:24 does seem to teach that God can not be locked away in any temple made with human hands. When I first came across this passage it made me wonder how it was possible for a man to lock Christ into a tabernacle as mass. Perhaps this was a specific message to the men of Athens and not a passage to be taken in general, but then I came across the same teaching given to Israel in Acts 7:48 "however, the most high does not dwell in temples made with hands, as the prophet says". So now I'm seeing the same message given to two different people groups in two different situations, so it makes me wonder how the RCC is any different ? I understand that God is omnipresent as we both would agree but the text in both passages seem to be referring more toward the restriction of God to a made made object then to the fact the God is omnipresent. So I'm still having a bit of difficulty with both Acts 17:24 and Acts 7:48 in relation to the elements. I understand the examples of the most Holy of Holies, the Arc of the covenant and the rest of the old testament examples you gave me but the issue is that they are old testament examples and we are under a new covenant, in the new testament times. In the old testament people were separated from God but in the new testament the Val has been torn and men now have direct access to God trough prayer... The examples you gave in the new testament are locations and we both agree God is omnipresent. The other new testament example you gave is the womb of Mary and that is not made with human hands. It grabs the attention when you see this fact between the old and new testaments and when you take into account all the information together, something seems off. I have tried to find a more direct answer to this observation but have not found a definitive answer when considering the difference between testaments. Idk if maybe as a devout catholic you might have better insight or even ask around. Anyway thanks for checking back to me . I do also have a question about transubstantiation if you're able to answer. Where in scripture do we find the doctrine of transubstantiation being carried out ? It seems like a very important doctrine but I'm not sure I'm seeing it in the new testament. Thank you for your time.
@@mack6429you can find transubstantiation in Matthew 26:26-29 and in Luke 22:25-2 and 1 Corinthians 11: 22-34. When he was talking about him not dwelling in temples he was talking about he was limited to that place, and that he needed them for a purpose just as the pagans believed in acts 17 : 24 Paul was talking to pagans. God was not confined to their temples just as the idols were.acts 7 48 is also talking about him being confined to those places. Also the Eucharist is put in a tabernacle not a temple you arguments would only work for churches not a tabernacle. We put the Eucharist there because it’s the most reverend place his under the appearance of bread and wine.