I think the reason absolutely no one uses it is because there is 0 reason to use it over the Kac or Jury. -It cannot headshot kill all ranges unlike the Kac -It has the least RPM (by a significant amount) -It has a torso kill range just like the Jury, but with less RPM -It cannot 2 shot kill limb all ranges, unlike the Jury I've used it before and it was fun, but the Kac and the Jury were way more fun to use because they were actually viable.
I used to use it on metro without snakeshot and it was so much fun and super satisfying. Unfortunately the most recent time i tried using it, it just didnt hit the same 😔
There's definitely less shotgun users overall but I still find a fair few. Usually the Saiga/DBV or a low rank with the 870. There's also the occasional auto shotty but they're mostly memers. As for the 1858, I saw a guy using snake shot in the test place abt 10 hours ago and that's it. I think I've seen like 6 people using it throughout the 3 or so years I've been playing PF.
The reason why it’s so bad was bc it’s was supposed to be a close range gun. It’s used to be able to fan fire and it was broken 4 years ago. It’s been bad for a long time now.( it’s sad 😢)
i actually played with intentionally the worst setups on the 1858 the other day (couldnt crack 1 kdr) , i used short barrel and default ammo, which takes away it's default sight and I used the 1858 revolver with short barrel
They nerfed it intentionally again, I saw a bug report for it and the first comment left is that it is intentionally no longer a OHK to the head all ranges. Which is kinda stupid, just remove long barrel as an attachment then? There's no other use to it.
it got hard nerfed multiple times, cant 1hk head all range and short barrel cant even torso kill fan fire anymore 😭😭😭 funny thing is that long barrel was meant to make it a universal headshot but litos rework broke it
basically lito was like “hey all this custom rounding for guns doesn’t make sense, I’m going to completely get rid of it without fixing anything” I mean there’s a reason we all placed it so low on the tier list
Most of shotguns outplays this setup on carbine so no point in making better… And fact that short barrel is the only decent barrel to use for alt aim but not ratshot
All I remember from the ONE kill I got is that the inability to 1 tap to the head at all ranges is because of the new update. Rounding errors galore! It’s always when you do rewrites that everything breaks.
I used to run the 1858 carbine with short barrel and snake shot with 1858 New Army with long barrel and snake shot. But ever since the nerf on the New Army's recoil w/ long barrel I just moved on and started using the MSG90
the first time when i use this gun, the damage get reduced when shooting through wall so i hit 3 headshot to kill one guy through fence then it become a great carbine sniper for a while, good velocity, one tap all range now it’s bad
This is one of those guns that makes you question I should I use this went I have a better option (Henry 45-70 and the revolver version) [Edit after 2 months] ok, never mind the gun slaps
Damn idk if I was the first person to get 10k kills with the 1858 carbine but y’all hatin. It’s simple just go for headshots and be accurate go with the flow 🙄
I think the reason absolutely no one uses it is because there is 0 reason to use it over the Kac or Jury.
-It cannot headshot kill all ranges unlike the Kac
-It has the least RPM (by a significant amount)
-It has a torso kill range just like the Jury, but with less RPM
-It cannot 2 shot kill limb all ranges, unlike the Jury
I've used it before and it was fun, but the Kac and the Jury were way more fun to use because they were actually viable.
I see it far more than I see the Kac (I love the kac) Also been playing for 5 years
also the henry exists
you must be playing in upside down world@@kingiument4627
it’s so painful to play without snake shot
Pretty good DMR but yeah using it as a normal carbine SUCKS
I smell skill issue.
@@jackdan1811 yeah, just get head shots EZ clap
@@jackdan1811Likewise.
I used to use it on metro without snakeshot and it was so much fun and super satisfying. Unfortunately the most recent time i tried using it, it just didnt hit the same 😔
hi fusion
@@feathersyyt yoo whatup
Literally zero reason to nerf the gun
@@pureidiocracy1636 yeah
I was scared from rubie lol at this point
5:32 "HOW THAT I MISS THAT!!!!!!!!!!🤬... han han😂😊"
bro fr yelled how did i miss that and instantly calmed down
There's definitely less shotgun users overall but I still find a fair few. Usually the Saiga/DBV or a low rank with the 870. There's also the occasional auto shotty but they're mostly memers. As for the 1858, I saw a guy using snake shot in the test place abt 10 hours ago and that's it. I think I've seen like 6 people using it throughout the 3 or so years I've been playing PF.
Im planning on using the 1858 when i get to rank 93 bc it's like a cheap henry substitute
The reason why it’s so bad was bc it’s was supposed to be a close range gun. It’s used to be able to fan fire and it was broken 4 years ago. It’s been bad for a long time now.( it’s sad 😢)
It was a Henry substitute at that time
i actually played with intentionally the worst setups on the 1858 the other day (couldnt crack 1 kdr) , i used short barrel and default ammo, which takes away it's default sight and I used the 1858 revolver with short barrel
They nerfed it intentionally again, I saw a bug report for it and the first comment left is that it is intentionally no longer a OHK to the head all ranges. Which is kinda stupid, just remove long barrel as an attachment then? There's no other use to it.
stylis make good balancing changes challenge
So that's the reason I had to re-buy the long barrel
they balance quite well for a 10 year old kids game. even better than modern AAA shooters@@alicevioleta3184
"when was the last time you saw this gun?"
last night, while I was yee hawing epicly with it :3
it got hard nerfed multiple times, cant 1hk head all range and short barrel cant even torso kill fan fire anymore 😭😭😭
funny thing is that long barrel was meant to make it a universal headshot but litos rework broke it
should had been hard buffed instead 🔥🔥🔥🔥
basically lito was like “hey all this custom rounding for guns doesn’t make sense, I’m going to completely get rid of it without fixing anything”
I mean there’s a reason we all placed it so low on the tier list
this gun is good if u use short barrel, snake shot and click T before shooting
Most of shotguns outplays this setup on carbine so no point in making better…
And fact that short barrel is the only decent barrel to use for alt aim but not ratshot
All I remember from the ONE kill I got is that the inability to 1 tap to the head at all ranges is because of the new update. Rounding errors galore! It’s always when you do rewrites that everything breaks.
I used to run the 1858 carbine with short barrel and snake shot with 1858 New Army with long barrel and snake shot. But ever since the nerf on the New Army's recoil w/ long barrel I just moved on and started using the MSG90
Scar SSR is better imo, you should try it
@@iplaycodtoomuch1766 i do use the Scar SSR, but it can't one tap head all ranges
3:13 "U walkin up here? Get outta my lo- oh my gawd-"
It used to be useable before the long barrel changes, It used to one tap all range with 130 rpm and 2500 bullet velocity
1858 is my main gun and yeah i can definitely say that everytime i use it people always got shock that this gun exist
Snake shot and fan fire is actually fun
1858 Carbine has never been able to one-tap head all ranges. I used it a bit like 3 something years ago and it had the same problem.
_"When was the last time you saw the 1858 carbine?"_
Hmm, idk. Probably that one time I used it yesterday.
i once mained this gun as it was once a statistically better mosen faster in everything with a better velocity it was so slept on
I saw it when i got it, its the last time i saw it
Default ammo is alright, 38 Caliber kinda sucks balls, but I never tried it with Snake Shot, I may think about buying it later
I used to main this thing like 3 months ago, man… I’m sad now.
the first time when i use this gun, the damage get reduced when shooting through wall so i hit 3 headshot to kill one guy through fence
then it become a great carbine sniper for a while, good velocity, one tap all range
now it’s bad
if you use short barrel amd chainsaw grip it creates the goofiest walking animation ever tho. silly ah you should try it
Like half a year ago some high rank dude used it with snake shot and im doing 1k on all guns so thats what i did too.
I used to use this a bit a few years ago but that was the last time I saw it lol
You should try more of our setups
How does this guy get the most clueless enemies ever, ever time i play there are a bunch if hyper sweats killing me 3 nanoseconds after i respawn
The only reason I even know about this gun is because I remember the update where it was added to the game
I saw it today.
This is my gun. It's bad and broken, but good. Yeah, still good.
Thanks Rubie for making me 4k+ credits with your gambling stonks video and I even got a bonus void staff! I can't thank you enough. 😁👍
Wait whats an 1858 carbine when did it? I have many questions
if u use short barrel u can fan fire it
I used it to get a trick shot on Klinger on bazaar with the pit thing that sends you flying
When was the last time you saw someone use the L2A3
Unironically goes hard with .45 ACP, barely any recoil, 3 tap close range and better fire rate than M3A1. Also goofy looking gun.
Doesn’t it also allow for Fanfire as well?
I do use it especially when going cowboy
me remembering the new army snake shot 💀
i dont know i pre bought this gun long time ago for fun and its pretty funny to use
I can remember seeing it once like a year or two ago
I used it yesterday to finish a 100 kill challenge on every gun
My friend is trying to get 200 kills on every gun so i saw 1858 2 days ago lol
I would use the 1858 carbine all the time if I had it unlocked I ain't gonna hold you
They killed the 1858 Carbine because no one would notice.
They did us dirty.
cant you fan fire with short barrel on this gun?
This is one of those guns that makes you question
I should I use this went I have a better option (Henry 45-70 and the revolver version)
[Edit after 2 months] ok, never mind the gun slaps
It’s crazy he made this video the day I was thinking about this gun
I always say that jury is upgraded
1858 carbine 😂
WHEN PHANTOM FORCES ICEBERG
I use that daily to have fu alongside with the new army
Ayo don't talk my setup down like that man, for me it works fine yk. 💀 8:42
I can’t wait for the gun to chain fire into my fist and forearm
Whatever happened to the luck map? I miss it.
That's my main trolling setup lol
on god shotguns got PULVERISED and haven’t been good since
DUDE. I REMEMBER USING THIS GUN AND 1 TAPPING HEADSHOTS FROM LIKE 200 STUDS ????
WHAT HAPPENED
The last time I saw an 1858 carbine was in 1858
love your channel bro, keep it up! 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
Bro, i use this gun everyday. this is the best gun tbh.
who uses the mateba 6?
man I love watching same video every day
how do u hav $inf
I’m about to unlock it soooooo, I would say that I’m gonna use it, probably not for long though
Can you talk about the Henry great vid btw.
I used to main this so rip
when you saw 93R machine pistol?
I literally used this the other day lmao
I saw like one of these yesterday or smth
never seen someone use the KAC SRR before
Those who do know exactly what they're doing. And they're scary.
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Ur actually first congrats
Greetings
6:35 thats a bug i do it to reload mynpdws ehrn theres no 9x19 or other pdws
One gun I don’t see to much is the Honey badger
i won't complain. HB was annoying a few years ago bc all sweaty kids ran it.
well cuz the last time it was used was in 1858 duhhhh :33
used it last night, picked it off the ground
i will use that gun when i get it :)
I used it a few weeks ago to get 200 kills on it.
Bro has infinite credits HOW I mean I know it was probably the devs but still INFINITE!?
i just saw it yesterday lmao
I sometime see a absolute sweat use it.
last saw i saw a 1858 carine was in june 2021
1858 is my most kill wepon
KAC lol 😂
NAH WE NOT GONNA PUT ASIDE WHAT THE HELL THAT SETUP WAS WHEN THE VIDEO STARTED
Last time I saw it was in 1858
dude i used this only because iam trying to get 200 kills on all primaries and it was pure hell
Me who uses the 1853 everyday: D:
The last time I saw someone use this gun was in 1858 🙉
i saw it yesterday
Funny gun go boom
i USE THIS
Too much screaming in 1 video💀
Me who mains it-
I religiously use it. No joking
I am 1858 carbine main tho
Damn idk if I was the first person to get 10k kills with the 1858 carbine but y’all hatin. It’s simple just go for headshots and be accurate go with the flow 🙄
day 1 of asking rubie to get a 100 kill game with m1911 22lr ratshot