Cordon - STALKER 2 vs STALKER GAMMA Comparison

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  • Опубліковано 14 гру 2024

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  • @funkyneto
    @funkyneto 22 дні тому +53

    If GSC fails with A life 2.0, i hope the modder community can bring back something similar to A Life 1.0. Thats what made stalker so fun...the encounters and gun fights.

    • @Dooby0071
      @Dooby0071 21 день тому +11

      Yeah so sad like wtf did they do to stalker 2. Environment feels dead. Nothing cool.

    • @niavellir7408
      @niavellir7408 21 день тому +2

      Yeah crazy they left A-life out, that’s what made the game alive

    • @RottenSkull
      @RottenSkull 20 днів тому +2

      feels like a scam casgrab

    • @hank10111111
      @hank10111111 20 днів тому +2

      @@Dooby0071 I had 6 npcs spawn behind me in a gunfight after I just had a gunfight. Game feels very broken.

    • @nisuaia
      @nisuaia 14 днів тому

      @@RottenSkull Wow. You really think it is a cashgrab ? :D

  • @RottenSkull
    @RottenSkull 20 днів тому +22

    AI in Stalker 2 spent too much time near the brain scorcher

    • @blooddragon1332
      @blooddragon1332 7 днів тому

      On the other hand unlike in stalker 1 they always hit you no matter what even behind cover or bushes where you can't see them.

  • @andresbogado7133
    @andresbogado7133 22 дні тому +64

    UE5 and the obsession with graphics it's going to be the dead of gaming.

    • @01MeuCanal
      @01MeuCanal 20 днів тому +11

      UE5 games seems all lacking too much optimization. Metro Exodus is so beautiful as Stalker 2 but have 2x performance.

    • @MrKugelsicher90
      @MrKugelsicher90 20 днів тому +1

      yeah also the garphics are not even that good if you cant run it on native 4k everything is so blurry

    • @Jewifer333x2
      @Jewifer333x2 19 днів тому +2

      ​@@01MeuCanal ue5 doesnt lack optimization, game devs do

    • @01MeuCanal
      @01MeuCanal 19 днів тому +2

      @@Jewifer333x2 Both. UE5 software is new and very complex. It may contains bugs and performance issues indeed.

    • @TheSwoopDog
      @TheSwoopDog 18 днів тому +1

      Pretty sure I've heard that before. Literally every single time a new "hot" engine came out and people started using it.

  • @Westpine29
    @Westpine29 22 дні тому +67

    If only stalker 2 had a living world like gamma

    • @EsuZeno
      @EsuZeno 21 день тому +9

      Devs cut corners in the wrong areas tbh

    • @niavellir7408
      @niavellir7408 21 день тому +6

      Or a living world like the originals, they removed A-life for some reason

    • @Deadsmegma
      @Deadsmegma 20 днів тому +5

      ​​@@niavellir7408 It's there, it's broken as far as they have said, I have seen groups around, do their own thing but they spawn in and out of existence

    • @failedtalent1018
      @failedtalent1018 19 днів тому +3

      ​@@DeadsmegmaYeah, one STALKER modder who is associated with GAMMA, even said that for what can be seen, A-life is in the game. It's just incredibly broken, so it either doesn't work or causes tons of problems like weird enemy patrols and such.

    • @NighttimeJuneau
      @NighttimeJuneau 10 днів тому

      @@failedtalent1018 Could be that what’s been found are more like remnants of when GSC tried to build a new A-Life system in UE5 but decided to scrap the idea later. It may not be an “actively used but broken” system and more the cutting room floor parts of it.

  • @Mr.LeoNov
    @Mr.LeoNov 22 дні тому +16

    4:20 bro got so scared he pulled out a detector instead of a gun 😭😭😭😭💀

    • @brock1594
      @brock1594 22 дні тому +5

      I've done that more than i can count

    • @PeninsulaCity2024
      @PeninsulaCity2024 20 днів тому

      ​@@brock1594And trying too hard to heal with bread 😅

  • @itzzPredator
    @itzzPredator 23 дні тому +25

    I love how its almost identical between the 2 games. gsc really put a ton of effort to get it right an they did fantastic job.

  • @dogeman2566
    @dogeman2566 22 дні тому +37

    I personally like how GAMMA looks more. New S.T.A.L.K.E.R. looks wierd to me. It seems way too colorful and plastic. Nights are too bright too. The original trilogy had a lot more of a dirty and dark atmosphre, especialy Call of Pripyat and looking at Heart of Chernobyl something just feels off.
    EDIT. I also hate how shitty the HUD is.

    • @yerbalxrd
      @yerbalxrd 22 дні тому +16

      ui is AWFUL, i hope that someone make a proper mod or just play wihout hud

    • @pierceh.5670
      @pierceh.5670 22 дні тому +8

      Also the trees look (to me) more real on GAMMA, i know the trunks and branches look great on Unreal 5 but in GAMMA there are more trees and the foliage looks right, it reminds me of walking outside in the countryside near where I live, also the lighting on Xray is unmatched by any game engine I can think of

    • @Inkxo3D
      @Inkxo3D 21 день тому +5

      I'm a fan of gritty and dark atmospheres but I'll have to disagree with you. Gamma looks too artificial with the shaders and overall less realistic. Also, Mods like Anomaly, Gamma and other tacticool overhaul mods really gave the community a false sense of the Stalker games. The original stalker games never looked like Gamma, they had their own unique atmosphere and style. Which I actually prefer over the mods. Stalker 2 definitely looks more realistic and the colors are appropriate for the style. Its actually the opposite in this case, Gamma looks way more saturated than Stalker 2.

    • @dogeman2566
      @dogeman2566 21 день тому +6

      @@Inkxo3D I played the original games multiple times and I still prefer how they look and feel over the new S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2.
      As I mentioned, Unreal Engine makes it look cartoony and simply inferior in atmosphere to the original trilogy. Emisions are shitty too compared to how they were portrayed in previous titles. Gamma and all there other COS-like modpacks are cool but their feel is infinitely more S.T.A.L.K.E.R.-like than whatever we got here. This ain't my S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2, the one I waited for got cancelled many years ago...

    • @Inkxo3D
      @Inkxo3D 21 день тому +4

      @@dogeman2566 The emission is definitely lacking. Also the ambients. What important though is that if you try to replicate everything too much, then you would end up with the same game. The Original Stalker formula is definitely there, although not very noticeable even for Stalker fans like me. My point is that, I like the fact that they went a different direction. The game is more story focused and the Cinematics are solid. The foliage makes the world of Stalker 2 look smaller and the story of stalker 2 takes place 10 years after CoP. So the lack of population could be explained by that.

  • @RyanrMCMahon
    @RyanrMCMahon 21 день тому +9

    I know they watered down the games graphics and stripped the lighting to a bare minimum to run on last gen consoles but I was expecting more for almost 17 years. The lighting and shadows in SOC hold up so great. Modders will fix it 😂 😅😂

    • @MrKugelsicher90
      @MrKugelsicher90 18 днів тому +1

      lol the game runs shit even on rtx 4090 i dont think it has anyything to do with consoles

  • @dante7786
    @dante7786 22 дні тому +32

    60 year old game engine, isn’t 160GB, playable without issues and nearly identical gameplay. What did stalker 2 established that is new?

    • @koyomin2307
      @koyomin2307 22 дні тому +18

      story telling graphics more customizable guns and a lot of passion of devs (living ones and those who died) that made this game even a thing while a WAR is happening in their country

    • @dante7786
      @dante7786 22 дні тому +7

      @ Well yeah they delivered a product atleast on those circumstances. But the game has many problems atleast 1 more year it needs.

    • @koyomin2307
      @koyomin2307 22 дні тому +8

      @@dante7786 I think some patches will get the game better

    • @D.O.CanMusic
      @D.O.CanMusic 22 дні тому

      @@koyomin2307like nobody knows it. Nobody force them to release the game right now. I’m happy cause I love stalker and I cannot talk cause I’m downloading right now so I didn’t tried yet, but stop making people feel guilty if they express a critics to a product.

    • @alcalanjuan
      @alcalanjuan 22 дні тому

      One thing your leaving out is heavily modded since it's release. Any game put up against a modded version is gonna lose 100% of the time.

  • @RottenSkull
    @RottenSkull 20 днів тому +6

    people here did not get the point. its not about graphics its about the gameplay. the world feeling alive. Stalker 2‘s world is day outside the player’s 100m radius

  • @alonsoquijano9555
    @alonsoquijano9555 16 днів тому +1

    I hope stalker 2 includes coop and multiplayer in the future, as in the good times.

  • @sabbatus
    @sabbatus 20 днів тому +2

    i mean graphically i would say stalker 2 looks better BUT what good is graphics when you can't even see enemies beyond 100 meters also gamma feels alot more calming to the eyes because its not blurry and crowded all the time also not to mention you can always make your gamma look better with some add-ons to thr point where i'd say gamma wins graphics wise even LoL because of the reasons i stated
    stalker 2 is not a game its a semi cinematic experience where you walk a to b
    whereas gamma is an immersive survival in the zone where you can actually tinker plan ahead loot repair craft rank up while also progressing a semi done story
    gamma wins with overwhelmingly better gameplay
    there is nothing in stalker2
    no a-life
    no loot beyond the basics
    no suprises nothing interesting going on ever
    no survival beyond eating there isn't even thirst lol
    no sleeping beyond in the pre determined spaces
    no life in the zone at all
    anomaly hunting is better BUT the artifacte you find in gamma are way more interesting stat and feature wise where they can completely alter your play style
    stalker 2 gives you 0 motivation to explore because there is nothing to explore beyond good views... which is again not something you want foremost in a game... a game is to play...
    i genuinely got bored from stalker 2 the moment i realized there is no a-life and no loot beyond the same vodka bread stash and there was no real reputation 😔

  • @CODPRICEGHOST
    @CODPRICEGHOST 15 днів тому +3

    Saying modders will fix the game is just copium. STALKER 2 is made is using unreal engine 5 it won't be as moddable as x-ray engine.

    • @1111Tactical
      @1111Tactical День тому

      Except Unreal Engine 5 is highly moddable, with the sdk it's way moreso than X-Ray. UE5 is overused and overhyped, it's unoptimized...but it is highly moddable.

    • @CODPRICEGHOST
      @CODPRICEGHOST День тому

      @1111Tactical "Soon" eh kekw. UE is moddable by that much only if the dev puts the effort to make it so. Gsc might have promised good modding tools but I don't trust them anymore after they released stalker 2 in that state + with so many people giving gsc a free pass because "war" im just done with it. Will probably revisit 1 or 2 years later.

  • @Atwa1981
    @Atwa1981 21 день тому +6

    Me and my GF watched that Clip and was more amazed from Gamma then from Stalker 2 the Bricks on the Building at 9:46 was looks Way better then in Stalker 2, Stalker 2 has higher Tech but what Modders created with a Engine from 2009 is more fascinating and deserves more Respect, the Light and Atmosphere is deeper and more threatening. At this State i would always prefer Gamma and send those Guys my Regards, the Modders did the Job with more Love then any other Devs can do. All about Money!
    Pls Devs go to the Modders and start working with them to make real cool Shit!

    • @indigo_prod
      @indigo_prod 21 день тому

      The Engine XRay began to be written in 1997.

    • @dogeman2566
      @dogeman2566 21 день тому +1

      True, another game killed by UE5

  • @cookytrix
    @cookytrix 23 дні тому +6

    i love being reminded of consoles while playing my pc games...

  • @drusik
    @drusik 17 днів тому +1

    Show Cordon Vs. STALKER 2 from the Mod "True STALKER", it has Cordon during the Greenary Tree's and Plants season, graphically with the Sun out it looks amazing!

  • @heins9185
    @heins9185 23 дні тому +14

    Graphics = stalker 2
    Gameplay = gamma
    Stalker 2 need mods to rebuild the gameplay coz is outdated asf

    • @alcalanjuan
      @alcalanjuan 22 дні тому

      That's what I expected going in cause people mainly remember modded stalker not vanilla stocker but stalker 2 does a good job sitting in the middle in a way in terms of features.

    • @ultra1567
      @ultra1567 22 дні тому +6

      every stalker game are mid without mods, so just wait until it gets modded

    • @HvalaTiArkane
      @HvalaTiArkane 22 дні тому +1

      gamma adds a lot of non lore stuff and nerf a lot the artifact, a zone like on gamma is a very boring one

    • @Cify1
      @Cify1 21 день тому +2

      Gameplay in GAMMA is a never-ending race between 20 identical side quests that start every day and are no different.

    • @heins9185
      @heins9185 21 день тому

      @@Cify1 still better than stalker 2 gameplay in every way and yes did i mention AI system suck ? The whole alife AI is a lie and scam
      Defending gsc and stalker 2 whatever u want but u can’t change the fact that stalker 2 is just another mid fps action shooter game beside the flashy hyper realistic graphic the game is barebone

  • @pala6064
    @pala6064 21 день тому +4

    Anomlay With mod packs like gamma etc looks beter than Stalker 2

    • @RottenSkull
      @RottenSkull 20 днів тому +1

      its not about looks its about the world not feeling like an empty shell

    • @adventurer7579
      @adventurer7579 14 днів тому

      ​@@RottenSkullit is about looks also
      Anomaly and gama is just better

    • @Rysnya200
      @Rysnya200 8 днів тому +1

      @@adventurer7579 yesh sure now take something to clear your glasses 🤡

  • @beutelatte3643
    @beutelatte3643 21 день тому +4

    A-Life 2.0 is NOT present at all. Saying it is "broken" is an excuse, they had to delay several times and obviously, just like literally ANY other game nowadays, they had to cut corners to hit their release date. One of those corners was A-Life 2.0 . Why do i say its not present? Heres my reason:
    A broken A-Life system doesnt result in the exact same types of enemy groups spawning so close to you in such regular intervals. Its scripted, on purpose. There is no A-Life present as of now, they had to cut corners to release as planned. A broken system doesnt result in such regular and repeating encounters. Just play longer, you will notice how every half an hour (roughly) you will have either bandits spawn close to you and spot you instantly, one or two bloodsuckers suddenly showing up, 4 boars or some dogs. Its always the same enemies, mostly the same group sizes of enemies, always in regular intervals, which is wayyy too controlled to be result of a "broken A-Life system". Its scripted so at least SOMETHING happens to the player while theyre exploring.
    I dont mean to hate on the Devs here. I love stalker, i played my first stalker game as a child and i want nothing but success for any Stalker Game. But the A-Life system isnt broken, its non present. Simple as that. Theyre working on bringing it into the game, not fixing it. Its not broken or anything, its simply not finished.

  • @sussy_61
    @sussy_61 19 днів тому

    optimisation is the worst in stalker 2, the obsession of better polygon will destroy the sales number.

  • @AlejandroMagnoRivas
    @AlejandroMagnoRivas 19 днів тому

    Stalker 2 can be modded or will not?
    What about multiolayer?

    • @alonsoquijano9555
      @alonsoquijano9555 16 днів тому

      no multiplayer = no purchase for many

    • @AlejandroMagnoRivas
      @AlejandroMagnoRivas 16 днів тому

      @alonsoquijano9555 In anomaly will be a mod in future for play multiplayer with mods included 😌
      There is a youtibe channel idk the name,am subbed and they need donations for make it real,idk wheen will be playable,but they upload some gameplay of progress.
      😃

  • @gameprogramming6550
    @gameprogramming6550 12 днів тому

    If they spend 2 years making XrayEngine64 next level. Graphics is not everything you will be fed up after 30 minutes. gameplay is everything and dynamic environment. Unreal Engine is just making every game look the same as other games made with it. So, sad to see Game Devs are only care about Graphics. Gamma is almost same Stalker 2 with few graphics features are good in UE5. I wish people can understand my point. sorry for my bad English.

  • @01MeuCanal
    @01MeuCanal 20 днів тому +1

    How about anemy's A.I. in Stalker 2?

  • @chugg159
    @chugg159 14 днів тому

    Stalker 2 is not done justice by UA-cam compression.

  • @Tobanaman
    @Tobanaman День тому

    I think it's worth mentioning that the gamma gameplay is a highly modified version of call of pripyat running on pc and the stalker 2 gameplay is off of console gamepass cloud streaming not a high end gaming pc. Not exactly a fair comparison graphics wise.

  • @dmxdxl
    @dmxdxl 22 дні тому +5

    Stalker 2 is only like 20% out for me, 40% more is patches and fixes, and the last 40% is MODS!!!!!....

    • @wolfman7469
      @wolfman7469 19 днів тому +1

      Yeah we basically waiting for gamma 2 now.

    • @dmxdxl
      @dmxdxl 19 днів тому +1

      @@wolfman7469 IKR, can't wait for that, gonna be the ULTIMATE S.T.A.L.K.E.R experience!!!..

  • @pierceh.5670
    @pierceh.5670 22 дні тому +4

    Foliage and trees look better on Anomaly ngl. Trees and forests look sparse on Stalker 2.

  • @RagnetulCarpatilor
    @RagnetulCarpatilor 20 днів тому

    Is Stalker 2 as moddable as the original game? If yes then the modding community will take care of all the lacking features in the game and bring it to better than AAA quality. Just like they did with the original Stalker.

  • @MiseRaen
    @MiseRaen 22 дні тому +4

    Gamma is just a modpack for Stalker Anomaly. People just use gamma because its more well known due to UA-camrs and streamers.

  • @OGKhuri
    @OGKhuri 22 дні тому +4

    this is a bad comparison because you can add mods to gamma that make the grafics more realistic and shaders so looks 10 times better than that video.

    • @pierceh.5670
      @pierceh.5670 22 дні тому

      Fair point

    • @Cify1
      @Cify1 21 день тому +2

      No matter how many mods you download for Anomaly, the graphics and world detail will be much worse than in Stalker 2. But you'll still have to pray that Anomaly will launch at all. And another important thing is that good graphics in this case is not some kind of reshade that makes dark areas 100% black and light areas white as snow, but realistic lighting, new textures, models and colours, and without lumen or ray tracing it's impossible to do it at the level of stalker 2.

    • @EsuZeno
      @EsuZeno 21 день тому +5

      So modders who work for free made better assets than devs who had funding?

    • @RottenSkull
      @RottenSkull 20 днів тому +1

      dumb point

    • @alcalanjuan
      @alcalanjuan 20 днів тому

      @@EsuZeno no dead lines, concerns for cash, and not having to actually build the game from the ground up will do that you know. MODs will always trump what new releases come out

  • @PsycosisIncarnated
    @PsycosisIncarnated 22 дні тому +18

    Stalker 2 can not even compete with GAMMA. The game is a joke.

    • @alcalanjuan
      @alcalanjuan 22 дні тому +8

      It's an illusion from the lighting lol texture and shapes are still dated and low quality stalker 2 looks much better

    • @Peter.Wirsing
      @Peter.Wirsing 22 дні тому

      wtf ? you have played vanilla Stalker 1 ? noob.

    • @PsycosisIncarnated
      @PsycosisIncarnated 22 дні тому +6

      @@tapok665 stop kidding yourself.

    • @PsycosisIncarnated
      @PsycosisIncarnated 22 дні тому +14

      @@alcalanjuan id rather have an ''illusion from lighting'' than the illusion of gameplay

    • @PsycosisIncarnated
      @PsycosisIncarnated 22 дні тому +1

      @@Peter.Wirsing i have played every single stalker game and most mods....

  • @xiqy1959
    @xiqy1959 22 дні тому +1

    Am I the only one that thinks 2 looks way better out of the box? Super excited for gamma mod on steam for 2.

  • @skygames1990
    @skygames1990 23 дні тому +2

    Considering PC SR for this 2 GAMMA wins, eh?

  • @HvalaTiArkane
    @HvalaTiArkane 22 дні тому

    stalker gamma isnt stalker. its more a EFT

  • @pabloalberto6695
    @pabloalberto6695 15 днів тому

    will we have a stalker 2 gamma?

    • @NighttimeJuneau
      @NighttimeJuneau 10 днів тому

      GAMMA was built on at least 12 years of active modding before the project was even started, we’re talking at least a decade of entirely community-driven engine work, knowledge building, big projects that established entirely new gameplay mechanics (e.g. Misery 2). This is going to be one rough road. Seems more promising if GSC themselves actually stick with the game for 2-3 years, funded through expansions or something, and build it up to expectations.